Thoughts on the Game from someone who just learned about him

[REGIME MOB 510]

i dont read fuckin novels on the internet or in real life for that matter

lmao +1

[West Coast Veteran]

Re-reading what I wrote, I made a hint that Game will be the king, and I think that it is true. Game is the perfect representative of the west.

Welcome to the city of G's
Where we eat fried chicken, rice, and black-eyed peas
Fans got us in-the-scope/Interscope, like Jimmy Iovine
Cause we +Ruthless+, like Will before the +Black Eyed Peas+
Fuck all rappers, look at all the hate I see
I'm sick, you can't get rid of me, I'm HIV
Nigga get another job, hip-hop is not hirin
I'm the reason Dre feel comfortable retirin
I just might put out "Detox" myself
Smoke so much, I check in detox myself
One man army, took out Reeboks myself
Fortyfive in my khakis gotta watch my health
I'm so hard nigga, glock 17 quick draw nigga
Like the old me, 17, sippin malt liquor
All black khaki suit, all black Converse
Nigga I'ma keep on stompin comin +Straight Outta+

I have some critisms for him, but at the sametime, I think Snoop is mentoring the kid well. Game is a young king in the making, and unlike anyother king, it looks like the old king is helping the new king. Cube never helped 'Pac, 'Pac was dead and Snoop ran, Snoop cameback, and now is helping Game. Let the kid grow, he is everything we've been asking for. Listen to Doctor's Advocate and tell me his not a throwback to '93 in a updated form. Like Kanye is a throwback to real hip-hop with an updated sound, Game is a throwback to '90-94 westcoast hip-hop, his perfect to lead the west.

Where can I read that article you wrote?

[Tanjential]

Another thought on Game. Alot of people like to talk shit about his subject matter like he  just talks about the same west coast gangster shit but REALISTICALLY, you know what he talks about more? The same exact shit that WE talk about...he talks about the rap game, industry politics, beefs, producers, speculation, name dropping.....If it's interesting when we talk about it why ain't it cool when someone rhymes it? I find little to no difference between game's content and the content on this message board and to me that kind of meta cognition is different and fresh even, but still in a nostalgic west coast way (just like a lot of us).
          Also, people say he just talks about 'chucks, khakis, dre, bloods, chucks, khakis, dre' are overlooking shit like start from scratch and ol' english where there is clearly a bigger idea behind the track. The chucks, dre, bloods, khakis...etc. is just the language he uses to discuss shit....kinda like us. Dude's just a rap geek, and that's why I like him.

Also, I've heard people say that game's name dropping is a gimmick but last night I thought of something on a completely logistic level: When you're rhyming with names, there is more versatility in regards to the acual words you are rhyming with. Using a lot of names opens a whole new world of sylabbles and letter combinations...it's just a basic logistical idea, so even if that aspect is gimmicky, it's another oppurtunity to exhibit cleverness and talent. There can be skill behind it, looking purely at the rhymes, which you gotta do sometimes with rap.

-T

[Tanjential]

Also, in regards to his constant name dropping: most rappers have been rapping for a few years by the time they make a major label debut. Game's only been rapping for like 2-3 years now or whatever, he's still paying his dues. In the jazz world, artists to albums of primarily covers and one or two originals before they feel they have the right to do their shit and leave the mark they want to make on the genre. In other words, i bet you alot of rappers name drop a alot in their first couple years because when you're new all you have to go on is what's happened thus far. then when you've been an artist for a while you start talking about your shit cause you've had some experience being one. Give him a couple years, dudes mad new.

-T

[Turf Hitta]

game is not much of a lyricist at all though. snoop is more of a lyricist, and he aint even much of a lyricist neither.

[MediumL]

Game will probably end up like snoop, switching labels and releasing albums that will atleast go gold. He'll probably end up working with dre again somewhere in the future... Game doesnt have as much charisma as snoop so he'll never get the same commercial success though.

Atm game is ok, he relies heavily on good beats and guests though to hype up his album, instead he could just try being better lyrically and switching his topics but overall game aint that bad...

[WestCoasta]

Dude, that's a lot of writing you've done, and i gotta say that even though i read all of it, i think you're crazy. Game is cool and all, but like everyone else said, his shit is repetitive and he's really not on Pac's or for that matter on many other West coast rappers' level. Yeah, he sells but i think you're taking this shit too seriously. It's just the music business. There's plenty cats who could be selling like game if they had the "perfect" image, which you pointed out correctly

+1

[MIAMI4LIFE]

Game is dope and I've been listening to him since he came out, I didn't "just start" listening to him, he is not as good as Snoop, Kurupt, Xzibit as an MC when these dudes came out they had everything, Game got good beats, he knows how to ride a beat, he got good delivery and flow but his lyrics are just average and he needs to learn how to write a dope hook...

[Fuck Your Existence]

Another thought on Game. Alot of people like to talk shit about his subject matter like he  just talks about the same west coast gangster shit but REALISTICALLY, you know what he talks about more? The same exact shit that WE talk about...he talks about the rap game, industry politics, beefs, producers, speculation, name dropping.....If it's interesting when we talk about it why ain't it cool when someone rhymes it? I find little to no difference between game's content and the content on this message board and to me that kind of meta cognition is different and fresh even, but still in a nostalgic west coast way (just like a lot of us).
          Also, people say he just talks about 'chucks, khakis, dre, bloods, chucks, khakis, dre' are overlooking shit like start from scratch and ol' english where there is clearly a bigger idea behind the track. The chucks, dre, bloods, khakis...etc. is just the language he uses to discuss shit....kinda like us. Dude's just a rap geek, and that's why I like him.

Also, I've heard people say that game's name dropping is a gimmick but last night I thought of something on a completely logistic level: When you're rhyming with names, there is more versatility in regards to the acual words you are rhyming with. Using a lot of names opens a whole new world of sylabbles and letter combinations...it's just a basic logistical idea, so even if that aspect is gimmicky, it's another oppurtunity to exhibit cleverness and talent. There can be skill behind it, looking purely at the rhymes, which you gotta do sometimes with rap.

-T

thats real spit homie +1

[Tanjential]

thank you, I notice people keep saying I'm looking too deep into shit but I see no one buit the people that agree with me addressing any of the individual points I make (for example, his content being comparable to the content of this forum) and furthermore, what is this forum for but to look deeply into music that we're into?

-T

[Tanjential]

I don't see how his lyrics are average. he has multisylabbic rhymes, he rhymes alot of words originally(re: words that haven't been rhymed together before), he talks MC shit (lot of similes), the rap megaman shit (can adapt lyrically to any MC style he chooses) I admit that he's gotten BETTER over time but even on his early shit he's above average for sure. It's just cool to say that someone huge on a commercial level is average, so everyone is doing it.

-T

[--Vance--]

thank you, I notice people keep saying I'm looking too deep into shit but I see no one buit the people that agree with me addressing any of the individual points I make (for example, his content being comparable to the content of this forum) and furthermore, what is this forum for but to look deeply into music that we're into?

-T

Real talk homie... finally someone who writes some good shit about game.

If you don't like the name-dropping just don't listen to his music. end of the story

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

To me, Game is alright... well, he's pretty good, but he's just not my shit. I'll still bump his shit and can feel a lot of it...but yea, you're right in regards to him being a fixed product more than an individual artist. back in the days I probably woulda' eaten his shit all up, but now I'm into the realer shit, if you may, the shit that doesn't need to sell or need to put the west back on the map, the shit that just is what it is, not the shit that's on a mission, not the fabricated shit...It probably doesn't make much sense, but music as a whole is completely different than it was even in 2002 when we first posted here...That's why if you've noticed, I don't even post in these sections anymore...Everybody is on a different page nowadays, so I'm just gunna listen to whatever is the illest and not give a fuck about the west or the east or the bay, just know what you're listening to and respect that shit...PeACe

[ExZit]

this is actually a good thread..

I gotta say that i love the game for 2 reasons:

1. His music is hella dope
2. He keeps the beloved west coast legacy alive, just the way the fans want, because the game is a fan himself


I think u gotta take it for what it is.. entertainment, and that is something that game does well. But, as an fullfledged artists, id like to see what is REALLY behind his angry face.. maybe there will be room for that on his 3rd album. I hope so..


BTW, I feel what u sayin NIK..  maybe its a grown up thing? hehe

[Tanjential]

what do you mean by realer shit, NIK?

Not a criticism, just trying to keep the discussion moving. Cause if you mean moving away from commercial shit, yeah I feel you, i'm into a lot of non commercial music too but to me it's still important to have a dope rapper repping for the legacy just like sports teams is important to a lot of other people. I don't care if LA has a sick basketball team, but I better have an MC I can say reps my state well and succesfully, you know?

-T