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Question for all Christians!
Merovingian:
I'm an inherently good person who has love for anyone regardless of race and I've never had God in my life. So, what's your point. I hope you're not saying that one cannot be happy and prosperous with God in his or her life. What you said makes no sense. As the Bible states, God is omnipresent so therefore, it is absolutely impossible for it to be absent from some place. So, If God is in one place and not the other, then it is not omnipresent. As far as you regurgitating biblical scriptures, it means nothing to me, for I know the history behind those words, where they were taken from.
Facez:
--- Quote from: Merovingian on March 02, 2007, 06:42:38 PM ---I'm an inherently good person who has love for anyone regardless of race and I've never had God in my life. So, what's your point. I hope you're not saying that one cannot be happy and prosperous with God in his or her life. What you said makes no sense. As the Bible states, God is omnipresent so therefore, it is absolutely impossible for it to be absent from some place. So, If God is in one place and not the other, then it is not omnipresent. As far as you regurgitating biblical scriptures, it means nothing to me, for I know the history behind those words, where they were taken from.
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first of all, how did u come to that conclusion? in no way did i imply that one cannot be happy and prosperous with witout God.
you asked me "Why do you believe in something that has never been proven?" and i told you why; i basically said that God has changed me and my life and i that feel Gods spirit". And you have just assumed that I meant that no one in this world can be happy (whatever that means) or prosperous without God. how did you get that from what i said?
as for your statement about me regurgitating scriptures i was simply showing you that God's spirit dwells everywhere but until you receive his spirit willingly, it cannot/won't be inside of you. God gave us free will in order to make decisions in our life to choose if we want his spirit or not, he dwells everywhere but he is not going to force his spirit inside us if we don't want it. thats the thing I love about God, he lets us choose the decisions in our life.
--- Quote from: Merovingian on March 02, 2007, 06:42:38 PM ---for I know the history behind those words, where they were taken from.
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So you say.
Merovingian:
--- Quote from: Facez on March 03, 2007, 04:52:50 PM ---
first of all, how did u come to that conclusion? in no way did i imply that one cannot be happy and prosperous with without God.
you asked me "Why do you believe in something that has never been proven?" and i told you why; i basically said that God has changed me and my life and i that feel Gods spirit". And you have just assumed that I meant that no one in this world can be happy (whatever that means) or prosperous without God. how did you get that from what i said?
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How do you know that it was this God who changed you and not your own consciousness? Have you seen this God? What makes you think that this God is anymore real than that of the Ancient Greeks, Egyptian, Mayans, ect? The bottom line is this: People, places, and things are real if you believe them to be. You are the sum total of your beliefs, and your beliefs are always subject to change as your knowledge base expands. Years ago, people once believed the sun revolved around the Earth and that the Earth was flat. It was proven otherwise. This is no different with religion.
--- Quote from: Facez on March 03, 2007, 04:52:50 PM ---
as for your statement about me regurgitating scriptures i was simply showing you that God's spirit dwells everywhere but until you receive his spirit willingly, it cannot/won't be inside of you. God gave us free will in order to make decisions in our life to choose if we want his spirit or not, he dwells everywhere but he is not going to force his spirit inside us if we don't want it. thats the thing I love about God, he lets us choose the decisions in our life.
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So your saying, God is in one place and his spirit is in another place? That makes no sense.
--- Quote from: Facez on March 03, 2007, 04:52:50 PM ---So you say.
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I say that because that's what the research says. I wouldn't have said it if there was no proof. Have you researched the history of your religion? Do you know who King James was, assuming you read that version of the Bible? Do you even know what the words "Holy Bible" mean? If you want to know, I can show you the path, but you'll have to be willing to step outside of the box you're in.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: I dug deep down in my heart and came up with a muffin on February 27, 2007, 03:30:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: P.L.O. Style on February 26, 2007, 03:19:48 PM ---The bible was written by humans who twisted reality to enslave more people to their religion. What makes me think christiannity is the good religion is the principle of love and forgiveness, while other religions like islam praise some more radical values that bring people to believe they must eradicate the non-muslims. I don't think one religion is good though, as long as you live like jesus told us you can get to the next level, wheter it's paradise nirrvana or whatever. And what jesus told us? love each and every one like i loved you. But that's my own opinion, if you want someone to argue with you with a deeper perspective and more ecclesiastic arguments you should go to a church and ask the priest the same question.
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You don't think Christians were ever killing people?
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Sure they have, but nothing Jesus said according to those that quoted him comes even close to justifying killing someone.
"Years ago, people once believed the sun revolved around the Earth and that the Earth was flat. It was proven otherwise. This is no different with religion."
It is different. We went into space and saw the Earth and other planetss. We see the sun every day and have always seen it. We can feel the earth. God in any form cannot be studied because God may not exist. There is no proof for or against his existence. And even if God exist what exactly God is opwn for discussion with in the faith. I don't see God as some guy in heaven calling shots. For I know God could be the energy that surrounds the universe and created the universe. The particles and what not. The Word of God, which is what Jesus is, is simply morality. So you could say you need morality to properly flow with the energy of the universe and enter the the energy with out ever seeing death. You're energy after your body dies becomes part of the greater energy. I can find a thousand to spin; "no comes unto the father but through me", and not one can disprove the other. Anything is possible.
P.S. The heliocentric model was at least known by some 2000 years before Europe that it was flat. The earliest heliocentric models we know about are in ancient Greece as well as various mathematicians' theories on the circumference of the Earth. So fort all we know there was a far superior society 18,000 years ago that has yet to be discovered. If something like the Earth being sound and the universe rotatiting was common knowledge in 300 BC but unknown in 1400 AD then anything is possible.
Your research could be completely false hen it comes to anything, particularly in the ancient times. Herodotos the ancient Greek historian wrote "I write what the tell me, but I'm not obligated to believe it". This should lead any logical man to question the credibility of any recorded history from any time. The people who discover anything can say whatever they feel like saying when it comes time to record what happened.
Smoke Break:
--- Quote from: Merovingian on March 03, 2007, 08:57:23 PM ---If you want to know, I can show you the path, but you'll have to be willing to step outside of the box you're in.
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lol, that's some matrix shit.
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