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Well, Shaq in his prime was FAR more dominant and spectacular that Duncan has ever been, but DUncan is consistent, has no ego, and just gets shit done. He doesn't give a fuck about points, being the man, etc, he just wants to play ball and win 'chips.I agree with a lot of what you say GangstaBoogy, but it wasn't all SHaq's fault; both SHAQ AND KOBE have huge fucking ego's, were both part of the problem, whereas neither Parker or Duncan have real egos.Kobe and Shaq have possibly the two biggest ego's in the league; if they could've put that shit aside, they would've won a couple more titles. EVen if Kobe's story is true, why didn't Kobe make a stand and say he'd leave to if they were gonna trade Shaq? WHy? Because Kobe wanted to be the man, and you and i both know he PUBLICLY spoke out a few teams about how he was underutilized and wanted to be the man.......it would've came in time, like how it did with Wade and Shaq in Miami.ANd fuck, can we just let the Lakers rest in peace? They lost in the first fucking round, and its been Kobe this, Shaq that, Lakers, one rebound, trade me, don't trade me, I will play on Mars if i have to, no wait........I love L.A and wanna stay
Didn't Wade win the last NBA Finals MVP?So Shaq is 3x MVP Finals and 1x he didn't win it by giving the young Wade the spotlight.Where's the difference with Duncan?
Quote from: Antonio on June 15, 2007, 05:21:31 AMDidn't Wade win the last NBA Finals MVP?So Shaq is 3x MVP Finals and 1x he didn't win it by giving the young Wade the spotlight.Where's the difference with Duncan?Good point man; however, the thing with Duncan is he is only 31 and likely has more titles in him. Shaq? Not likely, unless he gets his shit together.Still, Shaq at his peak was far more dominant than Duncan in his prime, this is not debatable.
lmao, did you watch the 2006 finals? hahahahaand in 2004, shaq's last year with the lakers, he was just much better than kobe in the finals, no point in stepping behind him lol
Quote from: 7even on June 15, 2007, 03:41:01 AMlmao, did you watch the 2006 finals? hahahahaand in 2004, shaq's last year with the lakers, he was just much better than kobe in the finals, no point in stepping behind him lolLOL@Shaq being much better than Kobe' in '04, when Shaq had trouble getting off the ground and grabbing boards in double digits or scoring 20 or more points. And LMAO@2006, where Shaq put up games of 6 points and 5 rebounds and couldn't score over 20 points ONCE in the finals...You're funny, 7even. If Shaq was smarter, we'd be talking 6peat+. You know this.
Quote from: teecee on June 15, 2007, 08:02:23 AMQuote from: Antonio on June 15, 2007, 05:21:31 AMDidn't Wade win the last NBA Finals MVP?So Shaq is 3x MVP Finals and 1x he didn't win it by giving the young Wade the spotlight.Where's the difference with Duncan?Good point man; however, the thing with Duncan is he is only 31 and likely has more titles in him. Shaq? Not likely, unless he gets his shit together.Still, Shaq at his peak was far more dominant than Duncan in his prime, this is not debatable.See, you guys should consider two things that made Duncan the guy he is now:- he was drafted by a team who already had one of the best big men of all time in the roster, the Admiral. He made Duncan's life easier.- he was (and still is) coached by a great underrated coach (talking about best coach in the League?): Greg Popovic. A coach who doesn't give a flying fuck about who you are. A coach who only cares about the Team. A coach who teachs players how to play TEAM offence and TEAM defence. A coach that if you make a mistake, you have to apologize to him first. A coach that if you don't play/train with the right attitude he kicks you in your ass. Fuck that "Zen" shit, Greg uses his kicks in the ass. He's "that" type of coach.Those two things, mixed with the fact he's selfish by himself and that he's a silent leader makes him what he is.Shaq lived a totally different life and career. He was signed by the L.A. Lakers in one of the most memorable moves of all time. He had the keys of L.A. in his hands. He was the boss of the most important franchise ever. And, like you guys said, when he was on his prime he was UNSTOPPABLE.I like them both.Let's say Duncan and Shaq are the two best big men i've ever seen playing (i know there are some people better than them in the history of the NBA, MAYBE, but i'm talking about guys i've actually watched playing, live. So guys who played in the last 20 years, basically. Duncan, Hakeem, Shaq. This one is the magic trio. If you talk about one of those three you're talking about a legend).
Quote from: Antonio on June 15, 2007, 09:19:04 AMQuote from: teecee on June 15, 2007, 08:02:23 AMQuote from: Antonio on June 15, 2007, 05:21:31 AMDidn't Wade win the last NBA Finals MVP?So Shaq is 3x MVP Finals and 1x he didn't win it by giving the young Wade the spotlight.Where's the difference with Duncan?Good point man; however, the thing with Duncan is he is only 31 and likely has more titles in him. Shaq? Not likely, unless he gets his shit together.Still, Shaq at his peak was far more dominant than Duncan in his prime, this is not debatable.See, you guys should consider two things that made Duncan the guy he is now:- he was drafted by a team who already had one of the best big men of all time in the roster, the Admiral. He made Duncan's life easier.- he was (and still is) coached by a great underrated coach (talking about best coach in the League?): Greg Popovic. A coach who doesn't give a flying fuck about who you are. A coach who only cares about the Team. A coach who teachs players how to play TEAM offence and TEAM defence. A coach that if you make a mistake, you have to apologize to him first. A coach that if you don't play/train with the right attitude he kicks you in your ass. Fuck that "Zen" shit, Greg uses his kicks in the ass. He's "that" type of coach.Those two things, mixed with the fact he's selfish by himself and that he's a silent leader makes him what he is.Shaq lived a totally different life and career. He was signed by the L.A. Lakers in one of the most memorable moves of all time. He had the keys of L.A. in his hands. He was the boss of the most important franchise ever. And, like you guys said, when he was on his prime he was UNSTOPPABLE.I like them both.Let's say Duncan and Shaq are the two best big men i've ever seen playing (i know there are some people better than them in the history of the NBA, MAYBE, but i'm talking about guys i've actually watched playing, live. So guys who played in the last 20 years, basically. Duncan, Hakeem, Shaq. This one is the magic trio. If you talk about one of those three you're talking about a legend).NOOO. The main difference is that Duncan conditioned and kept himself in shape, and didn't have the same primaddonna "me first" attitude that Shaq had...Had Shaq kept his shit together, he could possibly be known as the greatest player to ever play the game nowadays. He unquestionably had the tools to surpass Kareem as the greatest Laker big, but dude flat out held himself back with his attitude...PeACe