Kevin Smith is back

[Tanjential]

His new show reaper on the CW is fucking brilliantly hilarious. The best thing he's done since Dogma.

The fat guy sidekick is the perfect jack black/kevin smith projectionary archetype. Bloody brilliant. and the guy playing satan is ridiculously great.

I've already forgiven him for jersey girl the first episode was so good.

if the whole season is good I'll forgive him for being so late on all his marvel comics work.

if the whole series is good i'll forigive him for turning his latest spider-man story into a rape public service announcement.

check this shit out, it's on the CW

-T

[Laconic]

What night is it on?

On another note, have you seen that Evening With Kevin Smith DVD 1 & 2?  I heard those were good as well.

[Tanjential]

saw the first one, but not the second.

it was amazingly hilarious.

i watched it on thursday but I think the new eps come out tuesday

-T

[Laconic]

Alright, thanks. +1

[Tanjential]

+1

lmao at the dude who's camping out this satruday morning and dissing me by the hour.

-T

[Shallow]

His new show reaper on the CW is fucking brilliantly hilarious. The best thing he's done since Dogma.

The fat guy sidekick is the perfect jack black/kevin smith projectionary archetype. Bloody brilliant. and the guy playing satan is ridiculously great.

I've already forgiven him for jersey girl the first episode was so good.

if the whole season is good I'll forgive him for being so late on all his marvel comics work.

if the whole series is good i'll forigive him for turning his latest spider-man story into a rape public service announcement.

check this shit out, it's on the CW

-T

He's on Spiderman now? Not Amazing? JMS is still on that right? However bad the rape storyline you mention is it can't be as bad as Sins Past.

I didn't Reaper was Kevin Smith. I saw the screener s few months ago. The show changed the actress for the girl from the girl from 13 to the girl from Heroes. And you can tell that the main character Sam looks different in the new scenes with Heroes. I think it's his hair.

[Tanjential]

His new show reaper on the CW is fucking brilliantly hilarious. The best thing he's done since Dogma.

The fat guy sidekick is the perfect jack black/kevin smith projectionary archetype. Bloody brilliant. and the guy playing satan is ridiculously great.

I've already forgiven him for jersey girl the first episode was so good.

if the whole season is good I'll forgive him for being so late on all his marvel comics work.

if the whole series is good i'll forigive him for turning his latest spider-man story into a rape public service announcement.

check this shit out, it's on the CW

-T

He's on Spiderman now? Not Amazing? JMS is still on that right? However bad the rape storyline you mention is it can't be as bad as Sins Past.

I didn't Reaper was Kevin Smith. I saw the screener s few months ago. The show changed the actress for the girl from the girl from 13 to the girl from Heroes. And you can tell that the main character Sam looks different in the new scenes with Heroes. I think it's his hair.

Couple things.

I've never watched Heroes....this guy Sam(the actor) is from heroes? didn't know about the chick...she's super cute.

anyway, Kevin Smith was never on ASM. He started a 5 issue Spider-Man/Black Cat mini series in like circa 03 that he didn't finish the last 2 issues of till like 06-07. The story started off awesome (before he well...stopped writing it) and when he picked it up again it became a big awkward after school special about rape, incest and other weird shit that made me feel dirty walking away from. He brought in some elements from his daredevil run though and that was cool and it was still a worthwhile excursion but I feel he could have ended it way better had he kept his momentum on it.

anyway, Sins Past was Joe Quesada (E-I-C)'s fault. JMS wanted those kids to be Peter's.  Quesada said No, that would age Peter too much,how about let's make them Norman Osborns? JMS had to say "Okay boss" cause JQ's his boss.

I love JMS, especially his entire collaboration with John Romita Jr (essentially the first 6 trade paperbacks worth of work JMS did). I feel once JRJR left, JMS was a bit lost. But I HIIIIGHLY recommend you read JMS first 6 arcs if you haven't. Most people haven't read JMS' early run. His first trade is called "Coming Home" and his 6th (the last one with JRJR) is called "The Book of Ezekiel". That run is just flawless to me.

anyway, skin deep and sins past I did not like. The Other was mediocre (also quesada's fault. JMS wanted to do it over 24 months in ASM alone but since quesada had a certain time frame in mind for civil war, JMS had to make it 12 parts. 4 parts over 3 monthly titles so the story was done in 4 months and hella rushed.). But around the CW stuff, JMS got really good again (specificially when Ron Garney took over as penciller, I guess Straczynski just needs good collaborators) and has been since imo, though I feel he is more decompressed than he used to be.

anyway, JMS is currently writing the last arc of his 6 year run on ASM. It's called 'One More Day' and it's pencilled by Quesada. and it's been HEAVILY hinted and rumored that Quesada has ordered this story break up the marriage of Peter and MJ and frankly most fans are pissed. For more specifics on the discussion, hit up www.newsarama.com, you'll see me in the forums puttin' it down.

The first part of OMD came out and it's drawn uber-well and the story seems cool but like I said, I feel JMS is more decompressed than he used to be.

Bottom line? JMS is dope except when JQ exerts editorial mandates on him. I thought sins past would have been frickin' amazing if those kids were Peter's.



and Kevin smith will not be let near comics anymore because that mini series (and a daredevil one that he started and never finished...but damn is that first issue dope....) was so late. so to me, reaper is his chance for redemption. Clerks 2 wasn't bad but...I don't wanna say it wasn't as good as part 1 cause that's too big an expectation but I at least wanted to see hella pseudo-intellectual minutae analyzing dialogue like in part 1 to balance all the slapstic he's been so prone to since Jay and Bob strikes back and there was like no more than half of a decent geeky conversation at a time and that was a big disappointment to me.

how regularly do you keep up with ASM?

-T

[Tanjential]

also, did you read Kevin Smith's daredevil run? Quesada pencilled it and man is it good

-T

[The Watcher]

it's not kevin smiths show, he's only directing the 1st episode

[NeoSoul]

yea he only directed the first ep he didnt write any of it

his gonna start filming his new comedy "Zack & Miri make a porno" late this yr and then his doing a horror movie called "Red State".

they gonna be different too cos he aint using the askewiverse characters anymore

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

his doing a horror movie called "Red State"

can't wait for that one...

[Shallow]

His new show reaper on the CW is fucking brilliantly hilarious. The best thing he's done since Dogma.

The fat guy sidekick is the perfect jack black/kevin smith projectionary archetype. Bloody brilliant. and the guy playing satan is ridiculously great.

I've already forgiven him for jersey girl the first episode was so good.

if the whole season is good I'll forgive him for being so late on all his marvel comics work.

if the whole series is good i'll forigive him for turning his latest spider-man story into a rape public service announcement.

check this shit out, it's on the CW

-T

He's on Spiderman now? Not Amazing? JMS is still on that right? However bad the rape storyline you mention is it can't be as bad as Sins Past.

I didn't Reaper was Kevin Smith. I saw the screener s few months ago. The show changed the actress for the girl from the girl from 13 to the girl from Heroes. And you can tell that the main character Sam looks different in the new scenes with Heroes. I think it's his hair.

Couple things.

I've never watched Heroes....this guy Sam(the actor) is from heroes? didn't know about the chick...she's super cute.

anyway, Kevin Smith was never on ASM. He started a 5 issue Spider-Man/Black Cat mini series in like circa 03 that he didn't finish the last 2 issues of till like 06-07. The story started off awesome (before he well...stopped writing it) and when he picked it up again it became a big awkward after school special about rape, incest and other weird shit that made me feel dirty walking away from. He brought in some elements from his daredevil run though and that was cool and it was still a worthwhile excursion but I feel he could have ended it way better had he kept his momentum on it.

anyway, Sins Past was Joe Quesada (E-I-C)'s fault. JMS wanted those kids to be Peter's.  Quesada said No, that would age Peter too much,how about let's make them Norman Osborns? JMS had to say "Okay boss" cause JQ's his boss.

I love JMS, especially his entire collaboration with John Romita Jr (essentially the first 6 trade paperbacks worth of work JMS did). I feel once JRJR left, JMS was a bit lost. But I HIIIIGHLY recommend you read JMS first 6 arcs if you haven't. Most people haven't read JMS' early run. His first trade is called "Coming Home" and his 6th (the last one with JRJR) is called "The Book of Ezekiel". That run is just flawless to me.

anyway, skin deep and sins past I did not like. The Other was mediocre (also quesada's fault. JMS wanted to do it over 24 months in ASM alone but since quesada had a certain time frame in mind for civil war, JMS had to make it 12 parts. 4 parts over 3 monthly titles so the story was done in 4 months and hella rushed.). But around the CW stuff, JMS got really good again (specificially when Ron Garney took over as penciller, I guess Straczynski just needs good collaborators) and has been since imo, though I feel he is more decompressed than he used to be.

anyway, JMS is currently writing the last arc of his 6 year run on ASM. It's called 'One More Day' and it's pencilled by Quesada. and it's been HEAVILY hinted and rumored that Quesada has ordered this story break up the marriage of Peter and MJ and frankly most fans are pissed. For more specifics on the discussion, hit up www.newsarama.com, you'll see me in the forums puttin' it down.

The first part of OMD came out and it's drawn uber-well and the story seems cool but like I said, I feel JMS is more decompressed than he used to be.

Bottom line? JMS is dope except when JQ exerts editorial mandates on him. I thought sins past would have been frickin' amazing if those kids were Peter's.



and Kevin smith will not be let near comics anymore because that mini series (and a daredevil one that he started and never finished...but damn is that first issue dope....) was so late. so to me, reaper is his chance for redemption. Clerks 2 wasn't bad but...I don't wanna say it wasn't as good as part 1 cause that's too big an expectation but I at least wanted to see hella pseudo-intellectual minutae analyzing dialogue like in part 1 to balance all the slapstic he's been so prone to since Jay and Bob strikes back and there was like no more than half of a decent geeky conversation at a time and that was a big disappointment to me.

how regularly do you keep up with ASM?

-T

I've been on the JMS bandwagon since Rising Stars (the first arc was one of the best stories since Watchmen. It kind of went down a bit after that). I may have every issue or every comic book JMS ever wrote, from RS to Midnight Nation, to Spiderman to Supreme Power. I've read everything up until just after Sins Past. I have all of the issues since then I just haven't read them yet. I also have that Black Cat mini but I haven't read that yet either.

My issue wth Sins Past went far beyond them being Osborne's kids. The whole sleeping with Norman story was ridiculous but also I didn't think it needed the sci-fi aspect of them being so old. The story wrote it self in the beginning when Peter found the letter. What should have ended up happening was that Peter had one kid with Gwen who would be 8 or 9 or whatever and he ends up leaving MJ for lting to him and going out to find the kid and that would have lead to a nice year long storyline that would settle the story down a bit. Make it more human for a while and see a lottle more into Peter's soul. That would have been my take anyway.

The Daredevil Smith did with Quesada was great. I was sad to see him leave so early. The David Mack arc was okay, but the series really took off when Bendis jumped on. So Smith leaving wasn't all that bad.

[Tanjential]

what? Kevin smith won't be involved anymore?

yall serious?? damn, I may be done LOL

Hm, I agree that your take on sins past would have been brilliant but that would have done exactly what quesada is so afraid of: aging peter.

and yeah accela-grown kids are ALWAYS bad. Like clone bad.

and under JMS original idea, there would have been no Gwen-slept-with-Norman Osborn plot.

I would have been down for those kids to be Peter's for that story but as far as post sins past...where could you go from there? Peter couldn't possibly have been involved in Marvel's big events that followed in the way that he was if those kids were his.

you should read the rest if the JMS run if you've already read everything up to sins past. I think you'll really like it again from the "new avengers' arc on. and it gets sooo good during civil war and beyond.

also JMS just did a 4 issue death of silver surfer mini series called "Silver Surfer:Requiem" that was completely painted by Esad Ribic...and good god is it good. the second chapter of it is also a spider-man story and it's gorgeous work.

read the black cat/spidey mini(you have the 5 individual issues or the collected edition?) cause not only do I want your thoughts on it but it will sate your desire for more kevin smith daredevil. halfway through the story daredevil comes in and it almost directly picks up on stuff from 'guardian devil'.

kevin smith also did part one of a proposed 5 issue mini called "daredevil:the target" that very deftly intregrates elements of guardian devil with 9/11 and it's crazy. but yeah he got so behind that they never released any issues after the first one. so the mini remains unfinished. when asked at a comicon about if he would ever finish it. Smith replied "Daredevil wins; really what did you expect?" and said that Bendis has taken the character in such a different and good direction that it would be inappropriate for him to do that story now. I agreed when I heard him say it but once I read the issue one of that shit I was like DAMN, I want the rest of this story! the art was ridiculous too, brett something, I think brett matthews.

also, a latino writer Roberto Aguirre Sacasa just did a fanTAStic run on 'sensational spider-man' from issues 23-40 and I'd advise picking up either the issues or collected editions of it it's so good. most of the art is done by Angel Medina (used to draw spawn for macfarlane and you can tell, he has that dynamic flavor) or fully painted by Clayton Crain (just breathtaking) with a couple fill ins by Ramon Bachs(not impressed) and Lee Weeks (classic). anyway, sacasa does a great job at fun stories with old villains as well as integrating alot of spidey supporting cast that JMS tends to neglect (JMS spidey supporting cast has pretty much been boiled down to MJ/May) like Black Cat, Madame Web and some others. Everything that JQ was causing JMS to do wrong around this time period, sacasa was doing right. and sacasa wrote peter really young but still with depth and believability. it was cool shit, I'm sad to see him leave the spidey books.


i haven't gotten any of the current volume of DD since the kevin smith stuff but I DO want to get all the Bendis run at some point. i'm just hesitant cause it will be alot of daunting purchases. he wrote like 4 hardcovers or more worth of the actual title, he also used DD some in his Alias and Pulse run as well as writing him in the Secret War mini series as writing all of the elektra/DD stuff in the ultimate universe as well as some mini-series stuff like daredevil: ninja and other things and I'm very completist about my writer/character runs so it'd be alot of money and space that I just don't have right now but I've heard nothing but good things about Bendis' DD.

-T

[Tanjential]

also Ed Brubaker the current DD scribe is getting hella acclaim.


I read Bendis' New Avengers though and the first 4 arcs were just kind of light popcorn fun fare but since Civil War and Leinil Francis Yu taking over as penciller it's been awesome (if still very decompressed as is Bendis' M.O.)

I actually got to meet Bendis and Yu at this year's san diego comicon. they signed a bunch of stuff and were hella nice. Bendis especially was a humorous dude.

-T

[Shallow]

I have the Black Cat mini in issues. The guy I get my books from pulls varios things for me if he think I'll like them. I just haven't gotten around to reading after sins past. Not because it turned me off so much but because I had forgotten so much of the past storylines I'm going to have to read it all again. I'll read it all at once whn JMS is finished. Because I haven't kept up with ASM I haven't even read Civil War yet. The only book I go out of my way to read every time a new issue hits is 100 Bullets (now that's a great read).

Anything by Bendis in the early to mid 2000s was gold so you can't go wrong with Daredevil. I have the entire Alias run in issues, but I swear I haven't even read a single one yet. I don't think I have any issues of Pulse.

I'll keep an eye out for those Sensationals. Did you ever read Rising Stars?