lets no mince words,Takeover was better than Ether

[King Tech Quadafi]

i know its old, but Takeover served Ether

i know how yall feel,

see i was like most of yall

i didnt particularly care for both Jay Z or Nas,
they both disappointed me, but i liked Nas laot more, i thought Jay Z was so commercialized

so based on this biased, i biged up ether and slept on Takeover, the people gave this battle to Nas cuz he more  "lyrical" and cuz Jay Z was so arrogant,

but the fact is Takeover clowned Nas, Ether was just nonsense

[ImmortalOne]

Um, no. And..........uh, NO.

Jay lost the beef, everyone knows that.

[Jome]

yup yup, Takeover served Ether.
And Nas only won the Hot97 poll with 2% so they're basically equal.
And WCC is so Nas-affiliated that a poll here would be unfair.

[ImmortalOne]

yup yup, Takeover served Ether.
And Nas only won the Hot97 poll with 2% so they're basically equal.
And WCC is so Nas-affiliated that a poll here would be unfair.

Actually, everywhere I go, everyone says Ether shits all over Takeover. Matter of fact, you're one of the VERY few cats Ive met that thinks Takeover is better, and not just on the internet, but in general.

Nas won the hot 97 poll, almost every hiphop fan agrees Ether is better, and almost every rapper in the industry says Nas won the beef. Id say its safe TO SAY that Ether is the better song, by a general consensus.

I happen to think so anyway, since Takeover doesnt have any lines that can fuck with the following:

"How many of Biggies rhymes are gonna come out your fat lips" <------------this is oh so true, Jay bites every Biggie line in sight.

"Rocafella died of aids/that was the end of his chapter/and thats the guy yall chose to name your company after?/put it together/I rock hoes/yall roc fellas" [lyrically slaughtering Jay here]

Plus, Jay lost brownie points when he said "if im not better than Big, im the closest one", and he also had the nerve to say only streets cats were feelin Pac and DMX, even though both of those artists have outsold Jay [especially Pac]. Then he lost more points when he was behind that whole Summer Jam incident when he tried to boycott Nas from performing Ether. What a little bitch.

Nas won, Jay Z lost..........pure and simple. Period.

[Young Dan Iza]

everyone always forgets but TAKEOVER only had 1 verse dissin nas, the whole song ether was about jigga,,,,and jayz destroyed nas wit one verse!
also takeover is a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy better beat

[smartass]

they were both weak.

[S.G.V.]

me n tech are always on the same page...ive been sayin that nas got served good n plenty by takeover...cmon i cant stand jayz and he had me busting up...the ether shit was ok...it only had a few good punches...takeover was jam packed full of punches and witty ass remarks....plus the beat was sampled from one of the greatest rock songs preformed by one of the greatest rock bands period....5 to 1 baaaaaaaaaaby!!!!....the doors

[West Coast Veteran]

"Ether" was the better diss.

"Takeover" was the better song.

[Rick]

I liked them both, but I think that Takeover was better.

[HBKid_Jr]

both 2 week overatted songs i didnt feel either one.  i skip over both of them.  Only fucked up thing is peeps this jay-z served prodigy but if peeps knew tha whole situation they would look at it differently.  but thaT LIne was funny where he's like i got money stacks bigger than u

[M Dogg™]

Jay-Z vs. Nas

Stillmatic freestyle - 3.5
A little diss to Jay-Z. Very short, but very powerful. Nas openned up the battle after Jigga called him out, and this was the perfect way to open.
key punch:
"And bring it back up top, remove the fake king of New York
You show off, I count off when you sample my voice
I rule you, before, you used to rap like the FU-SHNICKENS
NAS designed your BLUEPRINT, who you kidding?"
"Is he H TO THE IZZO, M TO THE IZZO?
For shizzle you phony, the rapping version of SISQO"

Takeover - 4.5
A perfect responds to Stillmatic, as the orginal Takeover was a call out to Nas, this time Jay-Z baited Nas into a very hard diss that showed New York who's king. Honestly, I never heard a diss and thought a career was ended, until this one. Every punch was laided on top of another, set to end Nas.
key punches:
"Fell from top ten to not mentioned at all
to your bodyguard's "Oochie Wally" verse better than yours
Matter fact you had the worst flow on the whole fuckin song
but I know - the sun don't shine, then son don't shine"
"So yeah I sampled your voice, you was usin it wrong
You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song"
"Four albums in ten years nigga?  I can divide
That's one every let's say two, two of them shits was due
One was - NAHHH, the other was "Illmatic"
That's a one hot album every ten year average"

Ether - 4.5
The only way to comeback. Nas was battling for his career, and he knew it. Set up a song, as oppose to a verse, as everyone knew it would come to that. From the second verse on, Nas would explode onto Jay-Z very forcefully, almost perfectly. His fantasy though is a minus, but hip-hop is about wit, not much facts.
key punches:
"This for dolo and his manuscript just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called "Blueprint"
First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
Dick suckin lips, whyn't you let the late, great veteran live"
"You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is harsh, hug me, don't reject me
or make records to disrespect me, blatant or indirectly""
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class
You Tae-bo hoe"
"Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you gettin girls now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please"
"You a dick-ridin faggot, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons"

Super Ugly - 2
The reason why Jay-Z lost what was a great battle. Jay-Z had a very coky, half hearted responds to Ether, and suffered dearly. No one's to blame but Jay-Z, as if Jigga was half the M.C. he claims, then he would have been able to have a better comeback.
key punches:
"Niggas will tie you up on the colliseum roof
And open beer bottles off the boy chipped tooth, look here"
"Listen, I'm the J, the A to the fuck this broad
Nigga never sold aspirin how you Escobar"
"And since you infatuated with sayin that gay shit
Yes you was kissin my dick when you was kissin that bitch"

[Twentytwofifty]

Nas won the war.  

Stillmatic (my fav of the beef) & Ether were dope.
Takeover was good but only one verse (which did heavy damage) and Superugly sucked.

If there is a tie-breaker, take their albums at the time, Stillmatic is better than The Blueprint.

P.S. Prodigy verse on Takeover sucked, Jay had nothing to say.  He is short and his album didn't sell as much.  That's it.  

[HairWuzEre]

Takeover had a better beat, but I definitely think that Ether was better lyrically (even though some of it was unrealistic).

[M Dogg™]

I think Ether and Takeover were close... as seen above.

The tie breaker was Stillmatic vs. Super Ugly, which was no contest.

[bez]

Nar NAs won fair and square.