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Quote from: RadioTube! on February 03, 2009, 07:55:11 AMIt's clear white boy & shallow shouldn't be on HipHop forums. You can have a non-worldwide known band get on the stage and rock it (i dont wanna sound racist but you white folks do it all the time). And who said we have to have a "grimey" rapper get on and do tha damn thang, I know when and where hardcore rap has it's place (I'm not 12yrs old). I was simply saying that we dont wanna hear that bubble gum pop rap shit because you think ALL of us black people like that shit (and trust me alot of dont, read different forums or ask someone (any race, any age) in the street and you'll see). You can't please everybody but just because you think Bruce Springsteen is god doesn't mean everybody is diggin' him and his band. GoGo music is popular in more places than you think (NJ, NC, SC, GA, FL, DEL, NY, MA, for a few places). Every superbowl show I've watched always has somebody thats whiter than Al Gore playing the music during the halftime (even Prince), but the NFL is mainly Black (we shouldnt have to cater to ya'll because alot of white people don't like what we/everybody else likes, supposedly- demographically speaking). Like I said no bubblegum raps (use Wale or Tabi Bonney or Good Charlotte) and no Springsteen. Why wasn't Yo Yo Ma on? What about Carlos Santana and an RnB singer up there? What about a Willie Nelson & Snoop Dogg show? Bruce might still be selling and very popular but that whole show just wasn't doing it for me. Even my Dad who I swear can pass for the Whitest Black Man sometimes wasn't even diggin' Springsteen and he's all about good school music like that. Who are you to say I'm wrong about putting a GoGo Band up there anyways, have you even been to a show, they have shows damn near everyday and are always sellin' out (BackYard Band, Chuck Brown a LEGEND, Rare Essence) .... look for em sometime. Everybody love the GoGo when they go to a show and I aint just talking about my people. I'm hip to these white corporate execs tryna appeal to the Lou Dobbs & Joe The Plumber audience without everybody else in mind too. Everything clearly was showing that during the entire show, I wasn't even counting how many black people were on tv (not even thinking about that shit) until it was just real obvious... I think I counted like two by the time I noticed. But NBC and FOX and all of those stations are known for that 'view', I watch the news all day everyday... But like I said about the GoGo music or any music, don't knock it if you dont know what you're talking about, you have to go to a show (GoGo) to know what I'm saying, and not youtube! Because if GoGo music is an acquired taste then so is Springsteen.GoGo Classics: (women love this) (killed that chick on her own song, they made 1000 times more listenable) (umbrella) (Wale, GoGo Music, & Warren G all in one)and the list goes on...What the fuck are you talking about? I never said Springsteen entertained every single person watching. But you aren't providing any facts. Where do these go go bands sell out in the places you mentioned. Have you ever seen a single act fill up a Football stadium in the US for their concert? Because I've never heard of that. The last time Bruce was begged to do the half time show was '03, and that same year he sold out Giant Stadium (where the Giants and Jets play) 10 nights in a row. 500,000 tickets were sold in a matter of hours.Springsteen plays a lot of black music by the way, and just because it's not the black music you like doesn't make it Lou Dobbs music. BB King whose as black as it gets with music often complains that not many black people come to his shows. And the NFL tried an half time show with Nelly, Kid Rock, Timberlake, Janet, and Diddy in 2004 and it fucking sucked, that's why they stay away from it. There is a reason why the top rappers can't sell stadiums time and again; they don't know how to work them. People go see someone like Nelly or Jay Z once in a larger venue like a hockey arena, play 100 bucks and leave thinking we'll at least I saw him live (I've been to and sen the reactions post-show). When I want to the Springsteen show last October I saw plenty of people that had never been to a show before, young people, and while not every single person left with a new outlook on life, I saw a lot of young people amazed at how good at was and talking about how they gotta come back the next time he's town. Springsteen was the type of guy that used to make records just so he could go on tour, that's where he was best.I don't know about your Go go bands, and I'm not saying they are incapable of doing big shows but when picking someone to entertain 60,000 football (who are mostly white. Players might be black, but viewers are still majority white) the NFL wants someone they know can do it.
It's clear white boy & shallow shouldn't be on HipHop forums. You can have a non-worldwide known band get on the stage and rock it (i dont wanna sound racist but you white folks do it all the time). And who said we have to have a "grimey" rapper get on and do tha damn thang, I know when and where hardcore rap has it's place (I'm not 12yrs old). I was simply saying that we dont wanna hear that bubble gum pop rap shit because you think ALL of us black people like that shit (and trust me alot of dont, read different forums or ask someone (any race, any age) in the street and you'll see). You can't please everybody but just because you think Bruce Springsteen is god doesn't mean everybody is diggin' him and his band. GoGo music is popular in more places than you think (NJ, NC, SC, GA, FL, DEL, NY, MA, for a few places). Every superbowl show I've watched always has somebody thats whiter than Al Gore playing the music during the halftime (even Prince), but the NFL is mainly Black (we shouldnt have to cater to ya'll because alot of white people don't like what we/everybody else likes, supposedly- demographically speaking). Like I said no bubblegum raps (use Wale or Tabi Bonney or Good Charlotte) and no Springsteen. Why wasn't Yo Yo Ma on? What about Carlos Santana and an RnB singer up there? What about a Willie Nelson & Snoop Dogg show? Bruce might still be selling and very popular but that whole show just wasn't doing it for me. Even my Dad who I swear can pass for the Whitest Black Man sometimes wasn't even diggin' Springsteen and he's all about good school music like that. Who are you to say I'm wrong about putting a GoGo Band up there anyways, have you even been to a show, they have shows damn near everyday and are always sellin' out (BackYard Band, Chuck Brown a LEGEND, Rare Essence) .... look for em sometime. Everybody love the GoGo when they go to a show and I aint just talking about my people. I'm hip to these white corporate execs tryna appeal to the Lou Dobbs & Joe The Plumber audience without everybody else in mind too. Everything clearly was showing that during the entire show, I wasn't even counting how many black people were on tv (not even thinking about that shit) until it was just real obvious... I think I counted like two by the time I noticed. But NBC and FOX and all of those stations are known for that 'view', I watch the news all day everyday... But like I said about the GoGo music or any music, don't knock it if you dont know what you're talking about, you have to go to a show (GoGo) to know what I'm saying, and not youtube! Because if GoGo music is an acquired taste then so is Springsteen.GoGo Classics: (women love this) (killed that chick on her own song, they made 1000 times more listenable) (umbrella) (Wale, GoGo Music, & Warren G all in one)and the list goes on...
since we on the music topicwhy bobby why, it would have been an ok commercial (even though i hate the idea of my favorite artists being used for marketing), But that fag will-i-am, wtf, ANYONE would have been better than him
Quote from: Shallow on February 03, 2009, 08:25:25 AMQuote from: RadioTube! on February 03, 2009, 07:55:11 AMIt's clear white boy & shallow shouldn't be on HipHop forums. You can have a non-worldwide known band get on the stage and rock it (i dont wanna sound racist but you white folks do it all the time). And who said we have to have a "grimey" rapper get on and do tha damn thang, I know when and where hardcore rap has it's place (I'm not 12yrs old). I was simply saying that we dont wanna hear that bubble gum pop rap shit because you think ALL of us black people like that shit (and trust me alot of dont, read different forums or ask someone (any race, any age) in the street and you'll see). You can't please everybody but just because you think Bruce Springsteen is god doesn't mean everybody is diggin' him and his band. GoGo music is popular in more places than you think (NJ, NC, SC, GA, FL, DEL, NY, MA, for a few places). Every superbowl show I've watched always has somebody thats whiter than Al Gore playing the music during the halftime (even Prince), but the NFL is mainly Black (we shouldnt have to cater to ya'll because alot of white people don't like what we/everybody else likes, supposedly- demographically speaking). Like I said no bubblegum raps (use Wale or Tabi Bonney or Good Charlotte) and no Springsteen. Why wasn't Yo Yo Ma on? What about Carlos Santana and an RnB singer up there? What about a Willie Nelson & Snoop Dogg show? Bruce might still be selling and very popular but that whole show just wasn't doing it for me. Even my Dad who I swear can pass for the Whitest Black Man sometimes wasn't even diggin' Springsteen and he's all about good school music like that. Who are you to say I'm wrong about putting a GoGo Band up there anyways, have you even been to a show, they have shows damn near everyday and are always sellin' out (BackYard Band, Chuck Brown a LEGEND, Rare Essence) .... look for em sometime. Everybody love the GoGo when they go to a show and I aint just talking about my people. I'm hip to these white corporate execs tryna appeal to the Lou Dobbs & Joe The Plumber audience without everybody else in mind too. Everything clearly was showing that during the entire show, I wasn't even counting how many black people were on tv (not even thinking about that shit) until it was just real obvious... I think I counted like two by the time I noticed. But NBC and FOX and all of those stations are known for that 'view', I watch the news all day everyday... But like I said about the GoGo music or any music, don't knock it if you dont know what you're talking about, you have to go to a show (GoGo) to know what I'm saying, and not youtube! Because if GoGo music is an acquired taste then so is Springsteen.GoGo Classics: (women love this) (killed that chick on her own song, they made 1000 times more listenable) (umbrella) (Wale, GoGo Music, & Warren G all in one)and the list goes on...What the fuck are you talking about? I never said Springsteen entertained every single person watching. But you aren't providing any facts. Where do these go go bands sell out in the places you mentioned. Have you ever seen a single act fill up a Football stadium in the US for their concert? Because I've never heard of that. The last time Bruce was begged to do the half time show was '03, and that same year he sold out Giant Stadium (where the Giants and Jets play) 10 nights in a row. 500,000 tickets were sold in a matter of hours.Springsteen plays a lot of black music by the way, and just because it's not the black music you like doesn't make it Lou Dobbs music. BB King whose as black as it gets with music often complains that not many black people come to his shows. And the NFL tried an half time show with Nelly, Kid Rock, Timberlake, Janet, and Diddy in 2004 and it fucking sucked, that's why they stay away from it. There is a reason why the top rappers can't sell stadiums time and again; they don't know how to work them. People go see someone like Nelly or Jay Z once in a larger venue like a hockey arena, play 100 bucks and leave thinking we'll at least I saw him live (I've been to and sen the reactions post-show). When I want to the Springsteen show last October I saw plenty of people that had never been to a show before, young people, and while not every single person left with a new outlook on life, I saw a lot of young people amazed at how good at was and talking about how they gotta come back the next time he's town. Springsteen was the type of guy that used to make records just so he could go on tour, that's where he was best.I don't know about your Go go bands, and I'm not saying they are incapable of doing big shows but when picking someone to entertain 60,000 football (who are mostly white. Players might be black, but viewers are still majority white) the NFL wants someone they know can do it.Who said I was downplaying Bruce, I never was, I know the man is a fuckin' music legend-- never doubted it, but just because white people are the majority in America doesn't mean ya'll always have to get your way. And it's not about Black music or White music, it's about good music and Springsteen if you ask me sounds like someone who's living off of his name and not actually putting out something "time" lasting (atleast not in a while). And you mentioned Nelly & Diddy- News flash homey, Noone fucks wit those two bastards like that, that was EXACTLY wat I was mentioning when I said bubblegum rap. Nobody fucks with those two like that (LOL those two are the definition of bubblegum rap sucka mc'n that the majority hates). I dont care how many venues you can fill up, all I care about is good music, and those songs Bruce played werent doing it for me at all, I wanted to leave and take a shit halfway thru... this isn't BlueBrothers 2010 dogg, that shit is cool for the older white people out there, but for the sports players and the generation (40 and under) Springsteen isn't a god or someone relevant, Weird Al played him out back in the day. Just bcuz people like Diddy or Nelly or Jay Z is popular doesnt mean we want to see them in every spotlight oppurtunity, if your talking about commercial rap music, why don't you put Dr. Dre or 50 in the show with a live band and see how it rocks, i can almost guarantee it'll be a smash for everybody if it's done right (and knowing Dr. Dre's maticulousness ) it'll be a sure thing. The NFL is worldwide, not worldwhite so gettit straight when your talking about the majority. And as far as GoGo and selling out shows i'll leave it at this- You know about as much about GoGo as I do with Springsteen- GoGo shows are done all over the country and not in just Maryland & DC & Virginia and they always come raw. I think if you actually gave it a listen (not just on YouTube! then you would understand). Like I said, you can pick up those Jonas Brothers, Lou Dobbs, & John King from CNN fans but you can't capture everybody. BB King is a little too old fashioned too, Blues isnt wat it was back in the day, we've evolved from Blues in my culture, it pretty much was dead when Rick James & George Clinton hit the scene... you want the old artist to still get their shine on (nothing wrong with that) but you have to admit when it's time for them to get off the stage. If Springsteen was still all that hot with everybody and still all that relevant, we'd be hearing alot more about him and not just concert reviews from Roadies and Groupies. I thought that dude was retired lol. Point blank, the NFL needs to do a better job with picking talent for these shows and be more culturally diverse, not appeal to just the people you would find in Sean Hannity's iPod. Check it and you'll see what I'm talking about. As far as Hip Hop goes this is what we wanna hear, not Diddy or Nelly LMAO I still cant believe you think Nelly & Diddy was supposed to be a 'pass' or something . that just proves that the white man still dont understand the black man lol! If you want some real music some good music, have a buncha popular artist do a show collectively as one group (a famous drummer, some famous singers (soul/rnb and country together), some famous guitar players (one rock, one jazz, one country), a famous choir, a famous grand piano player, a GOOD rapper that we can appreciate and not just a name, a famous violinist, a famous chelloist, and so on. Get creative, get good, dont just sell it bcuz of a brand- do it for the sake of music and unity, not a dollar.
i dont have the patience to answer homeboy, but on a sidenote, i saw bb king a couple months ago at a pretty small venue in trenton, it was fuckin dopeness, dude is 83, and still sings dope as hell, plays amazing, had a dope ass band with him, told awesome stories, real cool as dude
Quote from: white Boy on February 03, 2009, 03:17:54 PMi dont have the patience to answer homeboy, but on a sidenote, i saw bb king a couple months ago at a pretty small venue in trenton, it was fuckin dopeness, dude is 83, and still sings dope as hell, plays amazing, had a dope ass band with him, told awesome stories, real cool as dudeJust curios, how many black people were there?
Quote from: Shallow on February 03, 2009, 03:46:49 PMQuote from: white Boy on February 03, 2009, 03:17:54 PMi dont have the patience to answer homeboy, but on a sidenote, i saw bb king a couple months ago at a pretty small venue in trenton, it was fuckin dopeness, dude is 83, and still sings dope as hell, plays amazing, had a dope ass band with him, told awesome stories, real cool as dudeJust curios, how many black people were there?it was trenton which is like 85 % black, so a ok amt id say 15-25 %, but the crowd was sooo varied, from 12 year old girls, to older people, to young people, from hippie looking 60 year olds, to people showing up in a nice sports coat and tie, families and couples, a wide spectrum overall
radiotube, I've said it before, but you are by far the most worthless poster here next to momo. Your inane ramblings accomplish nothing and I believe you to be the child of an alcoholic or drug addict. You should delete your account and find full time work digging ditches.
Quote from: white Boy on February 03, 2009, 06:22:01 PMQuote from: Shallow on February 03, 2009, 03:46:49 PMQuote from: white Boy on February 03, 2009, 03:17:54 PMi dont have the patience to answer homeboy, but on a sidenote, i saw bb king a couple months ago at a pretty small venue in trenton, it was fuckin dopeness, dude is 83, and still sings dope as hell, plays amazing, had a dope ass band with him, told awesome stories, real cool as dudeJust curios, how many black people were there?it was trenton which is like 85 % black, so a ok amt id say 15-25 %, but the crowd was sooo varied, from 12 year old girls, to older people, to young people, from hippie looking 60 year olds, to people showing up in a nice sports coat and tie, families and couples, a wide spectrum overallFuck Springsteen, he's obviously in your ass balls deep. I dont care about Springsteen and it doesnt matter what "whiteboy"s opinions are bcuz it's hard to have a real debate with you about this. you're tryna tell me I dont represent black folks and tryna make me look like an ass when all I'm doin is keepin it true. when you say "real" hip hop it just makes you look like a white boy bcuz as a nigga you would understand that there's ONLY good music and bad music, not "real" hip hop and fake hip hop as ya'll like to call it. You talk about sellin out shows, do ya research on BackYard Band and most of all Chuck Brown- Chuck Brown probably inspired Springsteen comin up. Chuck been rockin since the 60's. Never in my life have I ever seen a Springsteen video on TV get as much play as the god you claim him to be. You tryna make me seem like I'm goin on Springs when I'm tellin u tha fuckin truth that that dude is waaay past his prime. You can suck Bruce's nuts all you want but I'll be fine playing my old Cat Stevens records and my old UGK Records. Real music (especially in hip hop) isnt put in a way like if an artist is on the underground scene that automatically makes him a "real" artist or more authentic than the person on tv/radio and those who are in the spotlight are fake (i see you're really gassed up on that concept, I guess you havent seen MTV2 either). That show in 04 was a prime example of the shit niggaz dont care to see, and you dont know who I am, I aint tryna sound like no internet square but nigga I got conects out here (whether u want drugs, bitches, music contacts, spots to rob - when & where, and a whole gang of other shit) but this topic is about Springsteen not my credibility. But if the NFL has a mostly white audience then why are ALL the majority of sports (not just the NFL) have mainly black players, u woulda figured somewhere between integration and 2008 white people would've found a way to short cut the blacks again and get on top (I'll give you the MLB). White folx like Springsteen, Black folx like James Brown (rip) point blank. You know, it's kinda like Elvis vs. Quincy Jones. And how tha fuck are you the person to judge what black people can do now versus back then, that's how I know you dont live near our communities... Fuck outta here with that we cant do shit like we did back in tha 50s and 60s you fuckin faggot. MTV and BET have you brainwashed on who the fuck we are, you trippin on an ice pick for that. And then you have the nerve to mention Barack Obama in the bullshit ass un-most-relevant thing you've mentioned in this topic. You cant be fuckin serious. You're right u are a white boy and you wouldnt have the balls to say any of this to a so called "real" nigga face, you would bitchup and keep your opinions to yourself u fuckin homo ass butt fisher ass nigga.Yo white boy you can keep your Springsteen fetish in ya ass like a dingleberry bcuz you obviously arent culturally sound enough. Go to a Black church sometime, Go to an inner city school in the lunch rooms and music classes and you'll see what the fuck Blues & Beale Street has evolved into. Go to a college/ All this tv and readin all these interviews have got u gassed. and bitch that bubble your in has popped along time ago. New Jack City, Colors, and BITH and a few 2Pac albums cant tell u how it really is, niggaz die ova dumb shit (true) but niggaz mainly die over broken morals. So you can clear that mind frame outcha' brain. I'm done with you/// Springsteen is soft and the E Street Band cant out rock The Back Yard Band.
i refuse to believe you are black