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Yes good hip hop is making a comebacc with those albums , Only Built , Relapse 2 , The Worlds Enemy -Bone , Blueprint 3 , Dr Dre's Solo album , Lupe Fiasco's next album , even 50 Cents Before I Self Destruct , The Wizard Of Poetry , The G Filez , Snoop's next album , Method Mans solo , Redmans Solo etc etc
Quote from: Paul on September 08, 2009, 03:33:35 AMIts not, theres a lack of energy on it that brings the album downyeah but hopefully the sound is good enough to overcome the lack of energy
Its not, theres a lack of energy on it that brings the album down
Hip-Hop is Still Dead.
Just because something isn't good doesn't mean it isn't real. What makes fake hip hop fake? Some of the best hip hop is in the gangster rap category and that is complete fantasy in most cases. I could take Biggies verses from Brooklyn's Finst of Reasonable Doubt and show you rapping at it's finest but it's some of the fakest shit in music. Meanwhile so very bad Will Smith verses could be completely legit and very real.Stop saying real hip hop. Just because something sucks doesn't mean it's not real. Just say good or bad.
Quote from: Shallow on September 08, 2009, 01:42:18 PMJust because something isn't good doesn't mean it isn't real. What makes fake hip hop fake? Some of the best hip hop is in the gangster rap category and that is complete fantasy in most cases. I could take Biggies verses from Brooklyn's Finst of Reasonable Doubt and show you rapping at it's finest but it's some of the fakest shit in music. Meanwhile so very bad Will Smith verses could be completely legit and very real.Stop saying real hip hop. Just because something sucks doesn't mean it's not real. Just say good or bad.The reason I'd call an album like the Chronic "real" is that it represented the style and character of the hood in Compton. Whereas Will Smith is representing Hollywood.
But if Will Smith is accurately representing the style and character of hollywood, doesn't that make him just as real?
Every form of art accurately represents something and misrepresents something when it tackles such a broad subject as a lifestyle. It's neither fake or real. It just is. Whether it's good or bad can debated with me. I just don't get the point in equating good with "real".
Quote from: Shallow on September 08, 2009, 07:39:10 PMEvery form of art accurately represents something and misrepresents something when it tackles such a broad subject as a lifestyle. It's neither fake or real. It just is. Whether it's good or bad can debated with me. I just don't get the point in equating good with "real".Yeah... you know what... you are so right! Hey man, too bad somebody like you wasn't around to tell Dr. Dre this before he made the album the Chronic, he could have avoided massive failure, and put a disclaimer in the liner notes that said "All references to 'keeping it real' are relative only to certain groups of people, and should not in any way be taken as the reality of all people of all walks of life".
Quote from: ikke on September 06, 2009, 07:05:33 AMQuote from: UKnowWhatItIs on September 06, 2009, 06:37:39 AMQuote from: RingMan on September 06, 2009, 06:33:40 AMwhy return? real hip hop was here all the timeFor real, I guess it's the cool thing to say hip-hop is dead.Nas said so and we have to agree with him @ the OP you forgot a shitload of great 'real hiphop' albums.Dopium, A Brand You can Trust, Intermission, Alchemist, Krizz Kaliko.And that's just the past 2 months...Listen to what you like and shut the fuck up.
Quote from: UKnowWhatItIs on September 06, 2009, 06:37:39 AMQuote from: RingMan on September 06, 2009, 06:33:40 AMwhy return? real hip hop was here all the timeFor real, I guess it's the cool thing to say hip-hop is dead.Nas said so and we have to agree with him @ the OP you forgot a shitload of great 'real hiphop' albums.Dopium, A Brand You can Trust, Intermission, Alchemist, Krizz Kaliko.And that's just the past 2 months...
Quote from: RingMan on September 06, 2009, 06:33:40 AMwhy return? real hip hop was here all the timeFor real, I guess it's the cool thing to say hip-hop is dead.
why return? real hip hop was here all the time
Quote from: Infinite... the cognitive dissonance theory on September 08, 2009, 08:15:43 PMQuote from: Shallow on September 08, 2009, 07:39:10 PMEvery form of art accurately represents something and misrepresents something when it tackles such a broad subject as a lifestyle. It's neither fake or real. It just is. Whether it's good or bad can debated with me. I just don't get the point in equating good with "real".Yeah... you know what... you are so right! Hey man, too bad somebody like you wasn't around to tell Dr. Dre this before he made the album the Chronic, he could have avoided massive failure, and put a disclaimer in the liner notes that said "All references to 'keeping it real' are relative only to certain groups of people, and should not in any way be taken as the reality of all people of all walks of life".What are you talking about? I never said Chronic was a bad album and needed to be more real. It's agreat album and the character he plays in the album is representative of a certain culture. But let's not be foolish. Dre was in it for the cash. Just like Suge was. They played characters. In Suge's case life ended up imitating art and he paid the price for that. Neither of these guys were real spokesmen for the streets, ever. They exploited the struggles of the ghetto for profit, all the while romanticizing it for mass appeal. They sold their phony representation of Compton life to the white suburbs and made a lot of cash doing it. No one in the mainstream market wanted to hear about real every day problems of young black men in the ghetto. They wanted gangland tales of bravado filled mass murderers and women treated worse than property.I'd argue this track out of New York the year before Chronic came out does a better job representing Compton life than anything on Deathrow ever did.It's a much better track and much "realer", and it never broke the mainstream. There was no charasmatic lead vocalist to make it sound pop, and no easy to listen to sample to carry the track. And the lyrics were too realistic and depressing to ever break through.Dre sold out just like Hammer did, and that's why he sold all those records.You can change these lyrics slightly like I did and it would easily fit on Doggiestyle.I'm on a roll and it's time to go soloRollin in my 5.0With my ragtop down so my hair can blowThe bitches on standbyWaving just to say HIDid you stop?No--I just drove byKept on pursuing to the next stopI bust a left and I'm heading to the next blockThat block was deadYo--so I continued to A1A Beachfront Ave.Bitches were hot wearing less than bikinisRockman lovers driving LamborghinisJealous 'cause I'm out getting mineSnoop with a guage and Kurupt with a nineReading for the chumps on the wallThe Chumps are acting ill because they're so full of eight ballsGunshots ranged out like a bellI grabbed my nine--All I heard were shellsFallin on the concrete real fastJumped in my car, slammed on the gasBumper to bumper the avenue's packedI'm tryin to get away before the jackers jackPolice on the sceneYou know what I meanThey passed me up, confronted all the dope fiendsIf there was a problemYo, I'll solve itCheck out the hook while my Dr Dre revolves it