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Quote from: Vader on August 02, 2008, 06:21:47 AM”Put Ya Mics Where Ya Mouth Is” January 2001 NO.136Anatomy of a classic album in The Source August 2003 NO.167
”Put Ya Mics Where Ya Mouth Is” January 2001 NO.136Anatomy of a classic album in The Source August 2003 NO.167
You're setting the bar too high for '00's classics
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Classic to me is something thata) has a big impactb) is quality all the way through with some standout tracks (aka D'Evils, Let Me Ride, CREAM etc)c) stands the test of time.'B' doesn't matter as much if the album meets the criteria for 'a' perfectly and similarly 'C' doesn't matter as much if 'A' or 'B' are true.They still though need to have a bit of each factor though.
Quote from: ikke on September 25, 2009, 11:44:50 AMYou're setting the bar too high for '00's classicsAre we?Take a look at The Source magazine's classics list.Give and take a few,it's pretty on point. (Yes,they're a little biased,but that's another story that you can read more about here)Few if any albums from this decade deserves to be side by side with those (The Source magazine's classics) albums.Quote from: Vader on August 02, 2008, 06:21:47 AMThe Source's 5 Mic AlbumsRun-D.M.C. by Run-D.M.C.Radio by LL Cool JLicensed to Ill by The Beastie BoysRaising Hell by Run-D.M.C.Criminal Minded by Boogie Down ProductionsPaid in Full by Eric B. & RakimLong Live the Kane by Big Daddy KaneBy All Means Necessary by Boogie Down ProductionsStrictly Business by EPMDStraight Out the Jungle by The Jungle BrothersStraight Outta Compton by N.W.A. It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back by Public EnemyThe Great Adventures of Slick Rick by Slick RickCritical Beatdown by Ultramagnetic MCsNo One Can Do It Better by The D.O.C. Grip It! On That Other Level by Geto BoysPeople's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm by A Tribe Called QuestOne For All by Brand NubianLet the Rhythm Hit 'Em by Eric B. & RakimAmeriKKKa's Most Wanted by Ice CubeBreaking Atoms by Main SourceThe Low End Theory by A Tribe Called QuestDe La Soul Is Dead by De La SoulDeath Certificate by Ice CubeThe Chronic by Dr. DreDoggystyle by Snoop Doggy DoggEnter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) by Wu-Tang ClanIllmatic by NasReady to Die by The Notorious B.I.G.The Diary by ScarfaceThe Infamous by Mobb DeepOnly Built 4 Cuban Linx by RaekwonMe Against the World by 2PacThe Score by The FugeesReasonable Doubt by Jay-ZAll Eyez on Me by 2PacLife After Death by The Notorious B.I.G.Aquemini by OutkastThe Chronic 2001 by Dr. DreStillmatic by NasThe Blueprint by Jay-ZThe Fix by ScarfaceThe Naked Truth by Lil KimQuote from: MediumL on September 25, 2009, 12:43:30 PMClassic to me is something thata) has a big impactb) is quality all the way through with some standout tracks (aka D'Evils, Let Me Ride, CREAM etc)c) stands the test of time.'B' doesn't matter as much if the album meets the criteria for 'a' perfectly and similarly 'C' doesn't matter as much if 'A' or 'B' are true.They still though need to have a bit of each factor though.pretty much... basicilly the same shit the source dude said
Snoop Dogg - Tha Last Meal. December 2000, if I'm not mistaken.A pesonal classic, undoubtedly. It dropped around the time I was just getting into Hip-Hop, and helped cement my passion for the genre. Beyond that, though, I would make the argument that it is a Hip-Hop classic.To me, it's always been Snoop's most consistent effort after his debut. There are hidden facets of his personality that he exposed on this album, rarely to do so again. On a track like "Issues," he speaks as candidly as he ever has about his relationships within the industry. On "Go Away," he's intimidating without relying on cliched 'gangsta rap' confrontation. And on "I Can't Swim," he's impressively self-aware; When discussing vocal groupies, he drops the gem, "Take the fame away, and the game away / I bet they won't say the same that day." Any Snoop fan familiar with his pimp schtick can appreciate the significance of that honesty.Beyond a rejuvenated Snoop, you've got some of the best production he's ever been afforded. Timbaland and Snoop reach a perfect compromise, with "Set It Off" retaining Timbo's frenetic energy while showcasing old cohorts Rage and Nate. On "Snoop Dogg (Who Am I, Pt. 2)," meanwhile, Tim delivers the kind of quirky club cut that only an artist as charismatic as Snoop could do justice to. Beyond him, you've got two of the best tracks of Meech Wells' career in the afore-mentioned "Go Away" and "Issues" - perhaps or perhaps not a result of Dr. Dre's mixing. As for Dre, his entries are great, from the hazy opening funk of "Hennessy N Buddah" to the gruff "Lay Low." You've also got Battlecat (the brilliantly mature "Stacey Adams"), Soopafly (the tropical "Losin' Control"), and Jelly Roll ("Wrong Idea") bringing the best out of Tha Doggfather.Throw in some successful experimentation - from the bluesy singsong of "Leave Me Alone" to the boisterous Eve collaboration that is "Ready 2 Ryde" - and, in my eyes, you've got an album that is almost faultless. Were it not for the glaringly obvious No Limit track ("Back Up Off Me"), I believe a lot more heads would be singing this album's praises. Go back, revisit it, and be pleasantly surprised. This is likely the closest Dogg will ever come to matching Doggystyle.
agreed but although rap magazines serve a lot of purpose if theyre reliable (see Lil Kim Naked Truth 5 mics ). They help to create some sort of standard or else we'd have everything from Soulja boy to q tips new albums being labelled classics. They also help to direct attentions to albums that deserve it.Classic to me is something that a) has a big impact b) is quality all the way through with some standout tracks (aka D'Evils, Let Me Ride, CREAM etc) c) stands the test of time. 'B' doesnt matter as much if the album meets the criteria for 'a' perfectly and similarly 'C' doesn't matter as much if 'A' or 'B' are true. They still though need to have a bit of each factor though.
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Quote from: MediumL on September 25, 2009, 12:43:30 PMagreed but although rap magazines serve a lot of purpose if theyre reliable (see Lil Kim Naked Truth 5 mics ). They help to create some sort of standard or else we'd have everything from Soulja boy to q tips new albums being labelled classics. They also help to direct attentions to albums that deserve it.Classic to me is something that a) has a big impact b) is quality all the way through with some standout tracks (aka D'Evils, Let Me Ride, CREAM etc) c) stands the test of time. 'B' doesnt matter as much if the album meets the criteria for 'a' perfectly and similarly 'C' doesn't matter as much if 'A' or 'B' are true. They still though need to have a bit of each factor though.Well i think thats what forums like these are for, where there are several people giving there views and opinions and classics can be formed from that, id much rather listen to opinons from fans and get a general opinion on music than some shady magazine that trys to manipulate what is classic and whats notFor example Th Source(Not very well respected nowadays, i know) gave that shitty lil kim album 5 mics, The latest Raekwon album only gettin 3.5 mics weh it seems like 90% of the people/fans on here are giving it near classic status, i know who im listening to