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Kobe...
.:DaYg0sTyLz:.:
--- Quote from: TheRemedy360 (back from the dead) on May 31, 2010, 03:55:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 31, 2010, 03:03:51 PM ---
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--- Quote from: teecee on May 30, 2010, 11:21:18 AM ---Had a GREAT series....I'd go as far to say that was his best playoff series as a leader.
He hit TOUGH shots, was consistent, used his teammates, and showed real maturity.
If he plays like this in the finals, Celtics have no chance. He'll get his second playoff MVP and become a top 5 playoff player ever...
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michael jordan
oscar robertson
larry bird
magic johnson
bill russell
wilt chamberlain
kareem abdoul jabbar
shaq o'neal
kobe is never cracking the top 8
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lol Kobe is still struggling to crack the top ten. The reason why Jordan is so hard to ever top is because every single year....Jordan was the best player in the league. There was absolutely NO debating it. Which is why the league is CONSTANTLY trying to build up a player as the next Jordan. Kobe has never ONCE been the clearcut BEST in the league. He is always amongst a group of great players. He has had moments where he was the best....so has LeBron....so has Duncan....etc.
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A lot of people will argue for Lebron today but I still say Kobe is # 1. But I think he was definitely the clear cut best player those two years Nash won the MVP.
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You think KOBE was the clearcut best player the two years Nash won the MVP??
Sccit:
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 31, 2010, 02:59:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 03:46:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 03:31:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on May 30, 2010, 01:20:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 30, 2010, 12:21:25 PM ---a bit of a stretch there lol but ok...top 5 player ever....lol
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LMAO@top 5 being a stretch when he's competing for GOAT status.
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He is competing in YOUR mind lol. Most experts didnt have Kobe rated a top 10 all time player prior to this year. Him winning his second title as the leader of the team I dont think will bounce him all the way into the top 5 lol But then again...Im arguing with a guy who thinks Kobe is better than Jordan (no Farmar).
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Pretty much everyone already acknowledges that Kobe, at the top of his game, has surpassed or at the very least matched Jordan as far as skill goes. If he wins 6+ titles, it would be ridiculous to not include him in the GOAT discussion.
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LOL!!! Wow...
First off...Kobe having 6 titles isnt the same as Jordan having 6 titles. Even ESPN radio addressed it this morning. When talking about how fans are so caught up in the present. Originally the conversation was about Rondo and how when he has a big game in the playoffs people immediately start calling him the best point guard in the league. When really, there are about 3 or 4 that definitely better then him. Then it switched to Kobe and how Kobe fans say he is better than Jordan everytime he has a big 30+ point game in the playoffs when really he is still 30 playoff games behind Jordan, 2 titles behind him..AND (important), Jordan never had Shaq. No one looks at Kobe's first 3 titles as an AMAZING accomlpishment of an all time great, because he was the second best player on those teams. Jordan NEVER was the second best player lol. Kobe's first three titles are closer to Pippens titles....then Jordans. Kobe's title last year was a far bigger individual accomplishment then all three of the three-peat titles lol. So he has a LOT of catching up to do.
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Jordan never had to play with a dominant figure like Shaq...don't penalize Kobe and his greatness just because he was fortunate enough to be a focal point on one of the greatest teams in NBA history.
BOX5 the best poster on this site yell:
--- Quote from: TheRemedy360 (back from the dead) on May 30, 2010, 01:15:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 30, 2010, 12:22:15 PM ---i'll finish your sentence.
..is second to LeBron. ;D
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Lebron is the most skilled but he's got a long way to go to be the type of closer Kobe is.
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the most skilled? what game you watching hahahaha, he's the most athletic and has the best physical gifts, but most skilled far from it, that muthafucca's jump shot is type garbage,his post moves very sub par, his footwork is nowhere near kobe's or tim duncans, stop drinking the stern and nba flavor aid they want to that equal to be the face of the league,but instead of it happening naturally like jordans progression they are telling you this guy is everything and it's not true just yet yell
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--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 31, 2010, 04:01:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: TheRemedy360 (back from the dead) on May 31, 2010, 03:55:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 31, 2010, 03:03:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: NATAS on May 30, 2010, 05:40:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: teecee on May 30, 2010, 11:21:18 AM ---Had a GREAT series....I'd go as far to say that was his best playoff series as a leader.
He hit TOUGH shots, was consistent, used his teammates, and showed real maturity.
If he plays like this in the finals, Celtics have no chance. He'll get his second playoff MVP and become a top 5 playoff player ever...
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michael jordan
oscar robertson
larry bird
magic johnson
bill russell
wilt chamberlain
kareem abdoul jabbar
shaq o'neal
kobe is never cracking the top 8
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lol Kobe is still struggling to crack the top ten. The reason why Jordan is so hard to ever top is because every single year....Jordan was the best player in the league. There was absolutely NO debating it. Which is why the league is CONSTANTLY trying to build up a player as the next Jordan. Kobe has never ONCE been the clearcut BEST in the league. He is always amongst a group of great players. He has had moments where he was the best....so has LeBron....so has Duncan....etc.
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A lot of people will argue for Lebron today but I still say Kobe is # 1. But I think he was definitely the clear cut best player those two years Nash won the MVP.
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You think KOBE was the clearcut best player the two years Nash won the MVP??
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Yes...and he was the clear-cut best. The year Kobe scored 81, many had already argued that he surpassed Jordan as far as skill goes...But you're right, Kobe wasn't ALWAYS the clear-cut best, just like Jordan wasn't always the clear-cut best. Jordan wasn't considered the best until he won his first title...up until the 90s, Jordan was NOT considered the best. When Kobe wins the title again this year, it'll once again become apparent to all the fickle NBA fans who the best obviously really is...PeACe
Chamillitary Click:
^LOL, surprise, surprise the year he's all alone & was considered a horrible teammate, being a ballhog, he dropped 81. :laugh:
& no, this year when/if he wins another title it'll make it even MORE apparent that he NEEDS a great big man like Pau Gasol with all-star caliber help surrounding him, with Phil Jackson to win; but it will also become apparent that the Lakers are a great team.
it's not "being fortunate" either, because he was ready to pack his bags & go to Chicago if the front office didn't hook him up with people; it was a demand, not something that fell into his lap.
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