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damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine fluQuote from: Laconic on March 16, 2010, 08:21:33 AMTue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cubegbee:@ Petey: you sound like a broken record, time to grow up.
Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cube
Lol @ radiotube under pressure>>>cracc a bottle, real slim shady, we made u etc...and under pressure was nuthin special or anythin on the level of poppin them thangz
Quote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 04, 2010, 09:11:14 AMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 03, 2010, 07:32:46 PMQuote from: Sir Doobie Roach on July 03, 2010, 04:17:00 PM"we made you" and "crack a bottle" were like the shittiest songs in Aftermath history (well in that small list anyways). let's not all get 2 actin' like niggaz appreciated those records. those records were STRAIGHT GARBAGE and y'all know it. I wish Dr. Dre could be my mentor but if he ever told me that "crack a bottle" and "we made you" were records that i should be learning to produce like i'd just walk outta the studio or tell him 2 stop bullshittin' me.What in the world were wrong with those beats? Lol, and this was the guy praising Under Pressure. Crack a bottle and We Made You were well-produced, especially Crack a Bottle, but they failed as entire songs, mostly due to Eminem LOL, again. 3/5 is "praising". This is the guy who says forums would be boring if everybody agreed all the time. & I didn't say "what was wrong with the songs", I said what was wrong with the beats. I enjoyed Relapse, but those were at the bottom of my list of songs for that album, just because of Eminem. But the beats were BANGING. Radiotube was talking about the production & there is nothing wrong with either song in that respect.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 03, 2010, 07:32:46 PMQuote from: Sir Doobie Roach on July 03, 2010, 04:17:00 PM"we made you" and "crack a bottle" were like the shittiest songs in Aftermath history (well in that small list anyways). let's not all get 2 actin' like niggaz appreciated those records. those records were STRAIGHT GARBAGE and y'all know it. I wish Dr. Dre could be my mentor but if he ever told me that "crack a bottle" and "we made you" were records that i should be learning to produce like i'd just walk outta the studio or tell him 2 stop bullshittin' me.What in the world were wrong with those beats? Lol, and this was the guy praising Under Pressure. Crack a bottle and We Made You were well-produced, especially Crack a Bottle, but they failed as entire songs, mostly due to Eminem
Quote from: Sir Doobie Roach on July 03, 2010, 04:17:00 PM"we made you" and "crack a bottle" were like the shittiest songs in Aftermath history (well in that small list anyways). let's not all get 2 actin' like niggaz appreciated those records. those records were STRAIGHT GARBAGE and y'all know it. I wish Dr. Dre could be my mentor but if he ever told me that "crack a bottle" and "we made you" were records that i should be learning to produce like i'd just walk outta the studio or tell him 2 stop bullshittin' me.What in the world were wrong with those beats?
"we made you" and "crack a bottle" were like the shittiest songs in Aftermath history (well in that small list anyways). let's not all get 2 actin' like niggaz appreciated those records. those records were STRAIGHT GARBAGE and y'all know it. I wish Dr. Dre could be my mentor but if he ever told me that "crack a bottle" and "we made you" were records that i should be learning to produce like i'd just walk outta the studio or tell him 2 stop bullshittin' me.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 04, 2010, 09:33:35 AMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 04, 2010, 09:11:14 AMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 03, 2010, 07:32:46 PMQuote from: Sir Doobie Roach on July 03, 2010, 04:17:00 PM"we made you" and "crack a bottle" were like the shittiest songs in Aftermath history (well in that small list anyways). let's not all get 2 actin' like niggaz appreciated those records. those records were STRAIGHT GARBAGE and y'all know it. I wish Dr. Dre could be my mentor but if he ever told me that "crack a bottle" and "we made you" were records that i should be learning to produce like i'd just walk outta the studio or tell him 2 stop bullshittin' me.What in the world were wrong with those beats? Lol, and this was the guy praising Under Pressure. Crack a bottle and We Made You were well-produced, especially Crack a Bottle, but they failed as entire songs, mostly due to Eminem LOL, again. 3/5 is "praising". This is the guy who says forums would be boring if everybody agreed all the time. & I didn't say "what was wrong with the songs", I said what was wrong with the beats. I enjoyed Relapse, but those were at the bottom of my list of songs for that album, just because of Eminem. But the beats were BANGING. Radiotube was talking about the production & there is nothing wrong with either song in that respect.By "this guy" I meant radiotube. I was agreeing with you. Crack a Bottle shits on Under Pressure as far as production goes.
Quote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 04, 2010, 10:51:43 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 04, 2010, 09:33:35 AMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 04, 2010, 09:11:14 AMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 03, 2010, 07:32:46 PMQuote from: Sir Doobie Roach on July 03, 2010, 04:17:00 PM"we made you" and "crack a bottle" were like the shittiest songs in Aftermath history (well in that small list anyways). let's not all get 2 actin' like niggaz appreciated those records. those records were STRAIGHT GARBAGE and y'all know it. I wish Dr. Dre could be my mentor but if he ever told me that "crack a bottle" and "we made you" were records that i should be learning to produce like i'd just walk outta the studio or tell him 2 stop bullshittin' me.What in the world were wrong with those beats? Lol, and this was the guy praising Under Pressure. Crack a bottle and We Made You were well-produced, especially Crack a Bottle, but they failed as entire songs, mostly due to Eminem LOL, again. 3/5 is "praising". This is the guy who says forums would be boring if everybody agreed all the time. & I didn't say "what was wrong with the songs", I said what was wrong with the beats. I enjoyed Relapse, but those were at the bottom of my list of songs for that album, just because of Eminem. But the beats were BANGING. Radiotube was talking about the production & there is nothing wrong with either song in that respect.By "this guy" I meant radiotube. I was agreeing with you. Crack a Bottle shits on Under Pressure as far as production goes.Crack a bottle is a complete track. Under pressure is not, so how you manage to conclude crack a bottle 'shits on' on it production wise i don't know considering its not even a fair comparison. I'm sure the final version of under pressure will be much better than crack a bottle. But then that aint much of an accomplishment
Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on July 06, 2010, 07:03:40 AMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 04, 2010, 10:51:43 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 04, 2010, 09:33:35 AMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 04, 2010, 09:11:14 AMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 03, 2010, 07:32:46 PMQuote from: Sir Doobie Roach on July 03, 2010, 04:17:00 PM"we made you" and "crack a bottle" were like the shittiest songs in Aftermath history (well in that small list anyways). let's not all get 2 actin' like niggaz appreciated those records. those records were STRAIGHT GARBAGE and y'all know it. I wish Dr. Dre could be my mentor but if he ever told me that "crack a bottle" and "we made you" were records that i should be learning to produce like i'd just walk outta the studio or tell him 2 stop bullshittin' me.What in the world were wrong with those beats? Lol, and this was the guy praising Under Pressure. Crack a bottle and We Made You were well-produced, especially Crack a Bottle, but they failed as entire songs, mostly due to Eminem LOL, again. 3/5 is "praising". This is the guy who says forums would be boring if everybody agreed all the time. & I didn't say "what was wrong with the songs", I said what was wrong with the beats. I enjoyed Relapse, but those were at the bottom of my list of songs for that album, just because of Eminem. But the beats were BANGING. Radiotube was talking about the production & there is nothing wrong with either song in that respect.By "this guy" I meant radiotube. I was agreeing with you. Crack a Bottle shits on Under Pressure as far as production goes.Crack a bottle is a complete track. Under pressure is not, so how you manage to conclude crack a bottle 'shits on' on it production wise i don't know considering its not even a fair comparison. I'm sure the final version of under pressure will be much better than crack a bottle. But then that aint much of an accomplishmentSell. Incomplete or not doesn't matter. We already know what the track will sound like, even if its not finished. The main melody of Under Pressure sucks. I can all but guarantee you that Dre scraps the song. The main melody of Crack a Bottle is dope (its a sample, and its been used before)btw just for the fuck of it, here's the original samplehttp://www.youtube.com/v/qLlzDWG40w8Here's another song that samples ithttp://www.youtube.com/v/9rj5ehxuRQMSo Dre using it wasn't the most creative use of a sample. But sonically it shits on the garbage that is Under Pressure. Even for techno rap that sounds bad. What killed Crack a Bottle was the garbage hook that Em sung and the completely unimpressive verses. What killed Under Pressure was the beat.
Quote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 06, 2010, 10:32:39 AMQuote from: LyRiCaL_G on July 06, 2010, 07:03:40 AMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 04, 2010, 10:51:43 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 04, 2010, 09:33:35 AMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 04, 2010, 09:11:14 AMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 03, 2010, 07:32:46 PMQuote from: Sir Doobie Roach on July 03, 2010, 04:17:00 PM"we made you" and "crack a bottle" were like the shittiest songs in Aftermath history (well in that small list anyways). let's not all get 2 actin' like niggaz appreciated those records. those records were STRAIGHT GARBAGE and y'all know it. I wish Dr. Dre could be my mentor but if he ever told me that "crack a bottle" and "we made you" were records that i should be learning to produce like i'd just walk outta the studio or tell him 2 stop bullshittin' me.What in the world were wrong with those beats? Lol, and this was the guy praising Under Pressure. Crack a bottle and We Made You were well-produced, especially Crack a Bottle, but they failed as entire songs, mostly due to Eminem LOL, again. 3/5 is "praising". This is the guy who says forums would be boring if everybody agreed all the time. & I didn't say "what was wrong with the songs", I said what was wrong with the beats. I enjoyed Relapse, but those were at the bottom of my list of songs for that album, just because of Eminem. But the beats were BANGING. Radiotube was talking about the production & there is nothing wrong with either song in that respect.By "this guy" I meant radiotube. I was agreeing with you. Crack a Bottle shits on Under Pressure as far as production goes.Crack a bottle is a complete track. Under pressure is not, so how you manage to conclude crack a bottle 'shits on' on it production wise i don't know considering its not even a fair comparison. I'm sure the final version of under pressure will be much better than crack a bottle. But then that aint much of an accomplishmentSell. Incomplete or not doesn't matter. We already know what the track will sound like, even if its not finished. The main melody of Under Pressure sucks. I can all but guarantee you that Dre scraps the song. The main melody of Crack a Bottle is dope (its a sample, and its been used before)btw just for the fuck of it, here's the original samplehttp://www.youtube.com/v/qLlzDWG40w8Here's another song that samples ithttp://www.youtube.com/v/9rj5ehxuRQMSo Dre using it wasn't the most creative use of a sample. But sonically it shits on the garbage that is Under Pressure. Even for techno rap that sounds bad. What killed Crack a Bottle was the garbage hook that Em sung and the completely unimpressive verses. What killed Under Pressure was the beat.I heard the original sample a long time ago...well not long, but when crack a bottle dropped and the original was garbage as was the dre produced track. Sonically it was wack. YOU say what killed crack a bottle was the garbage hook and unimpressive verses. Well i agree but thats part of PRODUCTION. Even if you just talking about the beat alone then its garbage and its basically done nothing to the sample and added a shitty hook and wack verses to it. That to me is a total fail. It was meant to be a club song, i NEVER hear that shit getting play anywhere.Under pressure i won't comment on till i hear the final product (if we ever hear it) but i could probably see it being a more accceptable club joint then crack a bottle. Jiggaz verse on it kills anything on crack a bottle, he sounds way more lively and even dres got something going on in the joint especially the part after jiggaz verse. Only thing i would say it that dre does need to work on that beat for sure lol. The wave/synth sorta effect is corny as fuck. But it aint complete. I could still see it being better than crack a bottle but its nothing but speculation until we hear it. All i know is i heard crack a bottle in its finished version and it was GARBAGE. Just because dre 'produced' it does not mean he cannot come for criticism from me or because he got the big names on it. The production and as a song, crack a bottle is straight up garbage to me.
Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on July 06, 2010, 11:07:46 AMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 06, 2010, 10:32:39 AMQuote from: LyRiCaL_G on July 06, 2010, 07:03:40 AMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 04, 2010, 10:51:43 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 04, 2010, 09:33:35 AMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 04, 2010, 09:11:14 AMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 03, 2010, 07:32:46 PMQuote from: Sir Doobie Roach on July 03, 2010, 04:17:00 PM"we made you" and "crack a bottle" were like the shittiest songs in Aftermath history (well in that small list anyways). let's not all get 2 actin' like niggaz appreciated those records. those records were STRAIGHT GARBAGE and y'all know it. I wish Dr. Dre could be my mentor but if he ever told me that "crack a bottle" and "we made you" were records that i should be learning to produce like i'd just walk outta the studio or tell him 2 stop bullshittin' me.What in the world were wrong with those beats? Lol, and this was the guy praising Under Pressure. Crack a bottle and We Made You were well-produced, especially Crack a Bottle, but they failed as entire songs, mostly due to Eminem LOL, again. 3/5 is "praising". This is the guy who says forums would be boring if everybody agreed all the time. & I didn't say "what was wrong with the songs", I said what was wrong with the beats. I enjoyed Relapse, but those were at the bottom of my list of songs for that album, just because of Eminem. But the beats were BANGING. Radiotube was talking about the production & there is nothing wrong with either song in that respect.By "this guy" I meant radiotube. I was agreeing with you. Crack a Bottle shits on Under Pressure as far as production goes.Crack a bottle is a complete track. Under pressure is not, so how you manage to conclude crack a bottle 'shits on' on it production wise i don't know considering its not even a fair comparison. I'm sure the final version of under pressure will be much better than crack a bottle. But then that aint much of an accomplishmentSell. Incomplete or not doesn't matter. We already know what the track will sound like, even if its not finished. The main melody of Under Pressure sucks. I can all but guarantee you that Dre scraps the song. The main melody of Crack a Bottle is dope (its a sample, and its been used before)btw just for the fuck of it, here's the original samplehttp://www.youtube.com/v/qLlzDWG40w8Here's another song that samples ithttp://www.youtube.com/v/9rj5ehxuRQMSo Dre using it wasn't the most creative use of a sample. But sonically it shits on the garbage that is Under Pressure. Even for techno rap that sounds bad. What killed Crack a Bottle was the garbage hook that Em sung and the completely unimpressive verses. What killed Under Pressure was the beat.I heard the original sample a long time ago...well not long, but when crack a bottle dropped and the original was garbage as was the dre produced track. Sonically it was wack. YOU say what killed crack a bottle was the garbage hook and unimpressive verses. Well i agree but thats part of PRODUCTION. Even if you just talking about the beat alone then its garbage and its basically done nothing to the sample and added a shitty hook and wack verses to it. That to me is a total fail. It was meant to be a club song, i NEVER hear that shit getting play anywhere.Under pressure i won't comment on till i hear the final product (if we ever hear it) but i could probably see it being a more accceptable club joint then crack a bottle. Jiggaz verse on it kills anything on crack a bottle, he sounds way more lively and even dres got something going on in the joint especially the part after jiggaz verse. Only thing i would say it that dre does need to work on that beat for sure lol. The wave/synth sorta effect is corny as fuck. But it aint complete. I could still see it being better than crack a bottle but its nothing but speculation until we hear it. All i know is i heard crack a bottle in its finished version and it was GARBAGE. Just because dre 'produced' it does not mean he cannot come for criticism from me or because he got the big names on it. The production and as a song, crack a bottle is straight up garbage to me.First of all, no, hooks and verses are not a part of production. That's a separate thing called writing. If Dr. Dre comes up with a beat and gives it to Eminem, he's the producer, not Eminem. Case and point: Eminem is not the producer of Crack a Bottle, Dre is. But Eminem wrote the lyrics and the hook.Secondly, hell no. The beat for crack a bottle was dope. The sample is dope as fuck with that epic feel to it. Did Dre do much to it? No. That doesn't make it any less dope, just like all those songs Puffy produced for Big. Under Pressure on the other hand is amateur and shoddy work. And it not being finished doesn't matter. If the main beat of something is already wack, adding things to it isn't going to help it much.Thirdly, whether something is a club song or not shouldn't matter. I go to the clubs once in a while and very rarely am I ever impressed with the production of the music they play. And there you go, talking about the lyrics and Jigga's flow on Under Pressure (neither were impressive btw) when that has nothing to do with producing a song. Clearly you don't understand the difference.
studio time? Lol, I never said I had studio time. I don't even record music. Lol @ you looking through my posts trying to find something to say.Dr. Dre didn't write the hooks or verses, Eminem did. If hooks or verses were a part of production then the rapper should get co-production credit right? Oh, but they never do. Because its not producing. Dr. Dre may or may not have influenced Eminem's hook, we don't know. That doesn't mean beats and hooks are a part of production. I'm sure he has the final say on the hooks and verses for his own albums, but songs on other people's albums? You can't assume that. Dr. Dre tends to have a bigger hand in the music coming out of his label then most producers, but 90% of producers give the artist the beat to spit on. They rarely are overseeing shit like hooks and verses. And for you to assume that Dr. Dre did this on Crack a Bottle is speculation. So this is all opinion, fine. I'm not saying this is fact. My opinion is that the beat for Under Pressure is wack as fuck and the beat for Crack a Bottle sounded epic and dope. Was Dre creative with the sample? No. But several of these "certified bangers" you are talking about weren't either. Crack a Bottle was a sample most people hadn't heard before and that's good enough for me. If they had come with a decent hook and without Eminem's juvenile antics it could've been a dope song as well.