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imo mainstream hip hop is dead, the difference between mainstream and underground is widening, but there is still PLENTY of quality hip hop out there, you just need to know where to look
Quote from: 13th Duke on July 30, 2010, 07:40:06 PMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 30, 2010, 06:43:10 PMBut the deal is that the "bad" in hip hop is really just an opinion. For instance, everyone on this forum loves that good ole 90s gangsta shit but that music was way more "negative" than the type of music Soulja Boy and his like are making.I can see where you're coming from with the freedom of speech and matter of individual taste. Everyone is entitled to that. But I think purists or people who have been in love with this music for so so long have earned the right to voice their opinion if they think a certain new strand of music is ruining something to hold dear, no matter how critical or negative that opinion may be. There's nothing wrong with being critical as long as its your honest appraisal, and not said simply to be conflictive.True, nothing wrong with criticism, but that doesn't mean the rest of us have to take it seriously. I can see it from both angles. Because I think the new mainstream music is mostly wack as well, but it is what it is. I still have all my underground music and that hasn't changed. I'm not gonna bitch about what a kid wants to listen to. Also we gotta keep in mind that back in the 90s, all those 80s heads were saying the exact same thing about our music.Also, is there really a difference between the type of music Soulja Boy makes and what Vanilla Ice or MC Hammer were doing during the 90s? If you think its wack say its wack, but the music has a right to exist. I'll call it wack, but I won't go around saying that a certain rapper is destroying hip hop. That would be giving them far too much credit.
Quote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 30, 2010, 06:43:10 PMBut the deal is that the "bad" in hip hop is really just an opinion. For instance, everyone on this forum loves that good ole 90s gangsta shit but that music was way more "negative" than the type of music Soulja Boy and his like are making.I can see where you're coming from with the freedom of speech and matter of individual taste. Everyone is entitled to that. But I think purists or people who have been in love with this music for so so long have earned the right to voice their opinion if they think a certain new strand of music is ruining something to hold dear, no matter how critical or negative that opinion may be. There's nothing wrong with being critical as long as its your honest appraisal, and not said simply to be conflictive.
But the deal is that the "bad" in hip hop is really just an opinion. For instance, everyone on this forum loves that good ole 90s gangsta shit but that music was way more "negative" than the type of music Soulja Boy and his like are making.
hiphop as a culture will always be good, the true shit of course,but say these artist you like sign to majors and then the majors don't like they music and put a hold on them,and you have lupe and big boi situations is where the shit is bad at,the award shows shit like that succs, and equals should be open to more artist then just a select few,take a crate digger mentality and seek out a gang of shit and let people know about it, yell
People complain too much. There are so many dope new hip hop artists putting out a plethora of quality music. J. Cole, Big K.R.I.T., Nipsey Hussle, Jay Rock, Freddie Gibbs, Pill, etc.And all these artists are CONSTANTLY putting out new music. And (not my style) some love Curren$y, Smoke DZA who put put a lot of music too.