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I was having a discussion with some friends about the best strating 5 ever and one was actually so confident about saying james is the better sf above larry. do people really think lebron is above bird? gimme a break, some of these youngsters need to watch some games and highlights of the best teams ever.
Luke Walton>>Larry>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mark Madsen>>>>>>>>>>Lebron James
larry bird > lebron james > magic johnson
Quote from: Tha A on September 04, 2010, 05:12:57 PMI was having a discussion with some friends about the best strating 5 ever and one was actually so confident about saying james is the better sf above larry. do people really think lebron is above bird? gimme a break, some of these youngsters need to watch some games and highlights of the best teams ever.bird came in and lead his team to a title in his second year, labron went and got a boyfriend to get good, fucc individual stats,bird and magic could have easily put up more numbers but they wanted to make they team great and they did,labron want to play with his friends like a lil kid, he may have the greatest althletic talent but it's about more then that, bird got that,fucc living in the moment rate the truth bird got it yell
If LeBron James played in 1980, he would be considered the greatest thing to ever play a sport.Same goes for Kobe before you absurd homosexuals start crying.The game changed, people are more athletic. James's build is BEYOND what was thought possible back then.Larry Bird is a legend, with "rings" & was caught up in a Laker/Celtic rivalry.Put him on an insignificant team during the 80's & he wouldn't get such recognition.Saying LeBron is better is a stretch because people are ignorant & can't put together that the game was completely different in terms of size. Nobody LeBron's build could dribble and pass like LeBron can.So if you judge it "by the book", you can't even compare the two, it's Bird. But if you have an open mind & think about it, James.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 04, 2010, 07:03:00 PMIf LeBron James played in 1980, he would be considered the greatest thing to ever play a sport.Same goes for Kobe before you absurd homosexuals start crying.The game changed, people are more athletic. James's build is BEYOND what was thought possible back then.Larry Bird is a legend, with "rings" & was caught up in a Laker/Celtic rivalry.Put him on an insignificant team during the 80's & he wouldn't get such recognition.Saying LeBron is better is a stretch because people are ignorant & can't put together that the game was completely different in terms of size. Nobody LeBron's build could dribble and pass like LeBron can.So if you judge it "by the book", you can't even compare the two, it's Bird. But if you have an open mind & think about it, James.That's a crock of shit. Jordan wasn't any more athletic in the 90s than he was in the 80s and no one was calling him better than Bird and Magic in the 80s. And Jordan was never any less of a build than Kobe is now and Kobe s on top the league, just like Jordan would be if he played now. Whether it's Jordan 88 or Jordan 98. And if Larry Bird was on the Celts this and last year instead of Pierce, Kobe never would have gotten his 4th or 5th rings.Larry was never the most athletic. He was the smartest. Yeah, I get it, LeBron has the build of an outside linebacker, but he wouldn't be any more dominant in the 80s than Jordan was.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 04, 2010, 07:03:00 PMIf LeBron James played in 1980, he would be considered the greatest thing to ever play a sport.Same goes for Kobe before you absurd homosexuals start crying.The game changed, people are more athletic. James's build is BEYOND what was thought possible back then.Larry Bird is a legend, with "rings" & was caught up in a Laker/Celtic rivalry.Put him on an insignificant team during the 80's & he wouldn't get such recognition.Saying LeBron is better is a stretch because people are ignorant & can't put together that the game was completely different in terms of size. Nobody LeBron's build could dribble and pass like LeBron can.So if you judge it "by the book", you can't even compare the two, it's Bird. But if you have an open mind & think about it, James.not at all, you gotta look at things from both sides, what if players from back then were playing now? back then they didn't pay much attention too nutrition or working hard in the gym like nowadays, now athletes are more prepared as we evolved and learned more. I agree that lebron is a freak of nature but look at the rules from the 80's, you didn't have no handchecking and back then basketball was hard so that takes a lot away from lebron because his biggest strenght is attacking the basket and stop acting like back then there were no strong athletics guys that could defend lebron to a certain extent.only thing lebron got on bird is athleticism and everything that comes with it, bird is a better shooter, better passer(not my much), better at the clutch... lebron only got him at rebounding(not by much), driving to the hoop and man-on-man defense even though bird was too smart and also could defend because of that. put bird on a insignificant team in the 80's? how about the celtics, they were nothing in the years before bird went there. what kobe even got to do with this? and have you ever seen bird play, celtics games or games from the 80's?
Quote from: Tha A on September 04, 2010, 07:44:16 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on September 04, 2010, 07:03:00 PMIf LeBron James played in 1980, he would be considered the greatest thing to ever play a sport.Same goes for Kobe before you absurd homosexuals start crying.The game changed, people are more athletic. James's build is BEYOND what was thought possible back then.Larry Bird is a legend, with "rings" & was caught up in a Laker/Celtic rivalry.Put him on an insignificant team during the 80's & he wouldn't get such recognition.Saying LeBron is better is a stretch because people are ignorant & can't put together that the game was completely different in terms of size. Nobody LeBron's build could dribble and pass like LeBron can.So if you judge it "by the book", you can't even compare the two, it's Bird. But if you have an open mind & think about it, James.not at all, you gotta look at things from both sides, what if players from back then were playing now? back then they didn't pay much attention too nutrition or working hard in the gym like nowadays, now athletes are more prepared as we evolved and learned more. I agree that lebron is a freak of nature but look at the rules from the 80's, you didn't have no handchecking and back then basketball was hard so that takes a lot away from lebron because his biggest strenght is attacking the basket and stop acting like back then there were no strong athletics guys that could defend lebron to a certain extent.only thing lebron got on bird is athleticism and everything that comes with it, bird is a better shooter, better passer(not my much), better at the clutch... lebron only got him at rebounding(not by much), driving to the hoop and man-on-man defense even though bird was too smart and also could defend because of that. put bird on a insignificant team in the 80's? how about the celtics, they were nothing in the years before bird went there. what kobe even got to do with this? and have you ever seen bird play, celtics games or games from the 80's?Better passer? Sure Larry Bird was smart with the ball, but LeBron has already been touted as arguably the best passer ever lol. & he has "nothing else"? Like I said above, Bird easily has shooting & forever will. Clutch is just a intangible that cannot be proven; because people love to forget LeBron scored 29 or the final 30 points in Game 7 against Detroit in 2006. If I had a nickel for every time somebody told me LeBron isn't clutch & then when I bring up that game they say "well one game"...lmao.Anyway LeBron has passing, rebounding, driving, dribbling, defense, better on the break offensively & defensively and anything else you can see & not just make up in these imaginary "clutch", "desire", "heart", "leadership" statistics lol.I'd love to see a play where the Celtics turned it over, the other team was on the break & Larry Bird ran 100 feet down the court, came from behind, pinned the man on the break on the boards, took the rebound, and took it all the way back by himself, splitting defenders.Speaking of these "clutch stats" I bet if you actually did the math behind it, Larry Bird (lets just say) was a 40% career 3pt shooter & I bet "in the clutch" he hit 40% of his 3pt shots. In the end, there is no "he stepped up", he just stay consistant.& I'm saying, put Bird on a team that never won, making him ringless for his career & wasn't involved in the NBA's greatest rivalry & he wouldn't be as highly touted. & you say, they were insignificant before him; don't even front like those 80's Celtics teams, from starters to bench players weren't amazing. It wasn't "Larry carrying the load", it was a great team.& finally, I only said Kobe because once you put LeBron on a pedistal like I just did here, it's only a matter of time before somebody catches feelings that Kobe isn't standing next to him. So I'm saying, Kobe & LeBron are interchangable in this vs. Bird debate.