Bye Bye VY10

[M Dogg™]

Because I'm still a fan of his, the best realistic situation for him would be Oak, SF or Arz. I think those four teams are a QB away from being contenders. Oak went 8-8 with Jason Campbell lol. That's 10-6 with Vince Young

Sounds like some shit Al Davis would do...he likes giving guys second chances. But as a Raider fan...I'm good. Id rather see us give Campbell another year under the same system (hopefully Hue Jackson stays). He was productive playing for a fucked up team in Washington. And this year he had his moments where he looked very good. You can tell he was never able to get completely comfortable. It didnt help having Cable bench him a couple times. He needs to know its his team and go out there and play. If they are gonna go in another direction, I'm still good on Young. Dont want a guy who couldnt hold the respect of his own locker room. He's a basket case lol.

You know, I think the same way. I honestly would love for Al to get Young, but I am not sure that's what the Raiders need right now. They need stability, even more so now that Cable is gone. Campbell was not impressive but one more year in the system with Hue Jackson, instead of Cable who was ready to pull him for Boller if he felt like it, could be good for Campbell's confidence. Cable really loved Gradkowski, who like Cable was way over his head for the job he had but had that fire to him that make people believe in him. That's great but that doesn't win Super Bowls. So maybe Campbell reaches his promise of college when he lead Aurburn to an undefeated season.

Jackson I have no doubt will be the best Raider coach since Gruden. One more year of his system could finally allow Campbell and the Raiders to have some stability; which I think is much more important to the team than a QB upgrade at this point. If Cable stayed, then Jackson leaves and takes his offence too. Cable does not have his own system that he runs, he doesn't call plays well and he is more of a players coach. That's all good as long as you have a guy like Jackson with you who can call the X's and O's. So hopefully Jackson stays, Campbell is given the first chance since his sophmore year in college to play in a system two years in a row, and Vince Young finds a good home.

I will not knock Young's personal problems, I think in the macho world of football, mental health is looked down at and this hurts the players who truly need help. Instead, dirt is thrown on their name and other teams see them as uncoachable. I hope Young finds a team that can work with him and offers a healthy environment that will allow him to shine, find that head coach who's like Phil Jackson in the NBA. But I know one think, Oakland has never been that place for a player like Young.

[OG Hack Wilson]

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VY will be AMAZING with Peterson or Fitzgerald

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Because I'm still a fan of his, the best realistic situation for him would be Oak, SF or Arz. I think those four teams are a QB away from being contenders. Oak went 8-8 with Jason Campbell lol. That's 10-6 with Vince Young

Sounds like some shit Al Davis would do...he likes giving guys second chances. But as a Raider fan...I'm good. Id rather see us give Campbell another year under the same system (hopefully Hue Jackson stays). He was productive playing for a fucked up team in Washington. And this year he had his moments where he looked very good. You can tell he was never able to get completely comfortable. It didnt help having Cable bench him a couple times. He needs to know its his team and go out there and play. If they are gonna go in another direction, I'm still good on Young. Dont want a guy who couldnt hold the respect of his own locker room. He's a basket case lol.

You know, I think the same way. I honestly would love for Al to get Young, but I am not sure that's what the Raiders need right now. They need stability, even more so now that Cable is gone. Campbell was not impressive but one more year in the system with Hue Jackson, instead of Cable who was ready to pull him for Boller if he felt like it, could be good for Campbell's confidence. Cable really loved Gradkowski, who like Cable was way over his head for the job he had but had that fire to him that make people believe in him. That's great but that doesn't win Super Bowls. So maybe Campbell reaches his promise of college when he lead Aurburn to an undefeated season.

Jackson I have no doubt will be the best Raider coach since Gruden. One more year of his system could finally allow Campbell and the Raiders to have some stability; which I think is much more important to the team than a QB upgrade at this point. If Cable stayed, then Jackson leaves and takes his offence too. Cable does not have his own system that he runs, he doesn't call plays well and he is more of a players coach. That's all good as long as you have a guy like Jackson with you who can call the X's and O's. So hopefully Jackson stays, Campbell is given the first chance since his sophmore year in college to play in a system two years in a row, and Vince Young finds a good home.

I will not knock Young's personal problems, I think in the macho world of football, mental health is looked down at and this hurts the players who truly need help. Instead, dirt is thrown on their name and other teams see them as uncoachable. I hope Young finds a team that can work with him and offers a healthy environment that will allow him to shine, find that head coach who's like Phil Jackson in the NBA. But I know one think, Oakland has never been that place for a player like Young.

The thing is, a dominant QB isnt what we need the most right now. We just need a serviceable one. And Campbell can be decent. Like u said, he just needs consistency and needs to know he wont be yanked for one bad half. Thats gonna play on any QB's psyche. We need our WR's to develop a little more, they are still so young. I would love to see us get some veteran receiver in there. Chaz Shillens I really like, but he cant stay healthy for shit. Jacoby Ford has GOT to be on the field. Louis Murphy isnt bad either. Heyward Bey...they are REALLY gonna have to find a way to get this guy going this off season...or that project might need to be scrapped soon.

Rather than worrying about another new QB, I would rather us focus on our Defense. Our front four is very good. But we could use a little more help at linebacker and in the secondary.

[MontrealCity's Most]

Because I'm still a fan of his, the best realistic situation for him would be Oak, SF or Arz. I think those four teams are a QB away from being contenders. Oak went 8-8 with Jason Campbell lol. That's 10-6 with Vince Young

thing is is that people questions his work ethic, maturity level and his state of mind

[Lunatic]

I think his "state of mind" thing is blown outta proportion. His work ethic would be a concern for me if its true that he's missed multiple team meetings and has issues grasping the playbook

[Shallow]

If he's willing to block and catch, because we know Fitz is, (the blocking part anyway), I think a 2QB system is worth a try here in Buffalo. He wouldn't have to really learn the playbook the way a normal QB would and he could just run and catch and throw while Fitz does all the thinking. It's worth a shot for a team that's stuck in a death division. I still like our chances going forward.