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Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« on: April 18, 2011, 03:37:04 PM »
There was once a time where if you had a Dre beat people would run to hear it and artists would a lot of times use it for the single.  I think with rap heading into the direction of techno/electronica a Dre beat has lost some value.  He will always hold weight in the industry, but artists are going to turn to David Guetta and Benny Bennassi for these types of beats and as the music is getting hotter and hotter more of the techno/house producers are going to jump in like the Swedish House Mafia and other huge house producers are taking over and giving competition to even the season veterans.  Producers like Swizz Beatz and Pharrell have managed to survive by altering their sound but the competition is only going to become more fierce when producers like Kanye, Cool and Dre, Scott Storch, Mannie Fresh, and Ryan Leslie are also trying to make their sound modernized.  With the current condition of the rap game heading techno/electronica/house, do you think the value of having a "Dre beat" on an album is still a big deal or do you think it's lost some luster?
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 03:51:13 PM »
its basically like you said..people would run and peep the new dre beat...and its the same now..only this isnt 10 or 20 years ago...now youre just paying for the name to be associated with your track...
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 03:57:50 PM »
Dre apparently doesn't think so. :D
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 04:14:58 PM »
The value of Dre beats is still high but only based on the work he has previously done. Because he has produced a solid catalogue of music, people will always wonder wihether he will equal or top what he has done before.
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 09:33:21 PM »
It still holds a great deal of value. Companies wouldn't be charging $500 for high-end headphones with his name on it if there wasn't a certain credibilty attached to his name and sound quality. It's not about whether he has a top 20 hit song on the radio. Major artists want to work with him to the degree where he can pick and choose whoever and name his own price. When you have that level of iconic status, it's not about artists necessarily wanting you to make a #1 hit radio single for them but just about them getting a chance to work with someone they view as a legend. Think about some of these stars who came up before Dre and what kind of price tags they still have.
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 11:43:32 PM »
value only huge to the die hard fans...

4every dre beat u want ya favorite artist to have... its 90000000 producers who can do a beat for cheap..n it blow up...the songs dre leaked....didnt make no noise outside the net...

 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 12:43:45 AM »
well the fact that dre is not even using his own beats on detox should answer your question

According to the singles so far, Khalil and Alex da Kid hold more value than a Dre Beat
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 12:54:43 AM »
value only huge to the die hard fans...

4every dre beat u want ya favorite artist to have... its 90000000 producers who can do a beat for cheap..n it blow up...the songs dre leaked....didnt make no noise outside the net...


Value is value. An entertainer's price tag is only as big as what the people paying him can make in terms of profit off his name. Interscope is paying Dre a fucking fortune. If they could get that with any young producer out there, they would drop him and grab the next guy for half of what they are paying him. The bottom line is dollars. If Interscope pays Dre $50 million, they're making anywhere from two to three times that off what he's doing for them. If they weren't, it's not a worthwhile investment. That's how capitalism works, kids. These label people aren't idiots. Look at Mariah Carrey when "Glitter" flopped. The label saw her value sinking to beneath what they had given her and they bought her contract out to get rid of her so they wouldn't lose more investing in projects that wouldn't turn a profit. They ended up taking a $25 million dollar bath to get her off the label.

Regardless how you feel about his current musical direction, Dre is one of, if not the, most valuable producers at Interscope right now.  
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 01:59:33 AM »
mariah was an ok example but a bad one...

glitter is not her worse sellin album..

she still did 3million...if 3million is flopping...something is wrong...

jus not what virgin thought glitter was gone do...

e=mc2 did waaaaaaay worse than glitter... glitter might not have got good reviews..but her fans got it

couple months(not yr) later once she got to island what did she do created her own label and wha the next albums  do 4million,10million,

virgin panicked jus like all labels do when they give the artist a fucked up decision.. 80million dollars u gone do whatever the label have u to even it is a fucked up movie n sdtrk n she did what she did...

came back the very next yr...n shitted on virgin decisions to drop her...with a even better selling album...and made more than the 80million she signed 4

that was virgins decision and lost...she wasnt even in the right mind at the time...she jus had a nervous break down..so u can blame her...thats virgin bad..they were so in a rush to make her the next janet...it backfired...

label people r idiots..i jus use the person u brought to show u how they r idiots...

how ya 80million dollar investment u jus had...turn around the next yr and drop hit after hit after hit 3-4 albums in a row...she didnt even last a yr on virign

did 2 movies and dropped 2 multiplatinum albums...

dre dont fuck with everybody albums on interscope....he tied into that aftermath shit..

they payin dre a fortune..they dont have to drop dre...

the roscoe dashs,soulja boys, keri hilsons,el debarges,hell even diddy..all who r on that label..went to unknown producers, for their hits...

hell niggas on aftermath ( 50 cent,eminem, game and everybody else) have use lesser known up n coming producers to produce all their albums....

who was boi 1 da be4 elephant in the sand?

if u didnt follow drake earlier in his career or kardinal u wouldnt know who that nigga was

alex da kid

its a shit load of young producers brought in to do work 4 cheap...all why dre is there with his biggest selling artist...

not takin shit from dre

but like i said 4 every dre beat ...u can go look at the album credits and from the start of aftermath to now..n notice all the fresh young producers out the womb to fuck with major stars...and interscope...


from 99 - to now close to 30-50 young up n coming producers have laid their hands on dre's artist...music..


every 50cent album after get rich has a brand new wet behind the ear producer

 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 02:19:15 AM »
Dre doesnt make hits anymore

thats why he works with Dipset, Rich Boy and other niggas now
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 02:38:15 AM »

yea, probaly

Dr. Dre is the Al Pacino of music-production.. the legend-status is big
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2011, 05:23:19 AM »
Dre tried the techno route with Under Pressure, it didn't work out too well

He should stick to what he does best and I still think his beats have value if you look at his Relapse production and the couple of Recovery tracks that were dope
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2011, 06:46:11 AM »
Well it used to be huge because it could be the hit on the album that would sell the album, like California Love, or Blow Your Mind, or Busta's Break Yo Neck

But I don't think labels and artists will go to Dre for a big single now, because he hasn't been making beats that become hits recently... they might go for a dope album track though, like Raekwon did

 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2011, 09:30:01 AM »
Well it used to be huge because it could be the hit on the album that would sell the album, like California Love, or Blow Your Mind, or Busta's Break Yo Neck

But I don't think labels and artists will go to Dre for a big single now, because he hasn't been making beats that become hits recently... they might go for a dope album track though, like Raekwon did



Yup I think that sounds about right.  Back in the day 10 years ago artists were paying 200 geez for a Dre beat because of hit value.  I just don't think he has that modern techno sound used to make hybrid rap music (see Will.I.Am).  What was the the last top 10 or even top 20 hit Dre produced?  Anyone ... ?
 

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Re: Value of a Dre Beat Still Huge?
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2011, 09:33:24 AM »
Well it used to be huge because it could be the hit on the album that would sell the album, like California Love, or Blow Your Mind, or Busta's Break Yo Neck

But I don't think labels and artists will go to Dre for a big single now, because he hasn't been making beats that become hits recently... they might go for a dope album track though, like Raekwon did



Yup I think that sounds about right.  Back in the day 10 years ago artists were paying 200 geez for a Dre beat because of hit value.  I just don't think he has that modern techno sound used to make hybrid rap music (see Will.I.Am).  What was the the last top 10 or even top 20 hit Dre produced?  Anyone ... ?
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