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Quote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 02:14:53 PMI agree with Petey. Just listen to Whats ya Phone # and imagine the kind of songs Pac could have been making instead. There's a reason Changes was an unreleased studio session instead of coming out while he was alive. You might be nodding your head to 2Pac saying nothing over G Funk beats, but I know he could've done a lot more.fact of the matter is, 2pac produced classics before and after signing with death row...if the music he released with death row was all garbage, u might have a great point. but i enjoy the death row 2pac's music as much (if not more) than the pre-death row 2pac's music, as do most west coast hip-hop heads.
I agree with Petey. Just listen to Whats ya Phone # and imagine the kind of songs Pac could have been making instead. There's a reason Changes was an unreleased studio session instead of coming out while he was alive. You might be nodding your head to 2Pac saying nothing over G Funk beats, but I know he could've done a lot more.
Quote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2012, 02:39:05 PMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 02:14:53 PMI agree with Petey. Just listen to Whats ya Phone # and imagine the kind of songs Pac could have been making instead. There's a reason Changes was an unreleased studio session instead of coming out while he was alive. You might be nodding your head to 2Pac saying nothing over G Funk beats, but I know he could've done a lot more.fact of the matter is, 2pac produced classics before and after signing with death row...if the music he released with death row was all garbage, u might have a great point. but i enjoy the death row 2pac's music as much (if not more) than the pre-death row 2pac's music, as do most west coast hip-hop heads.Really? there's no difference between party gangsta Pac and introspective Pac to you? Maybe his serious shit doesn't hold as much meaning to you.
Quote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 05:05:27 PMQuote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2012, 02:39:05 PMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 02:14:53 PMI agree with Petey. Just listen to Whats ya Phone # and imagine the kind of songs Pac could have been making instead. There's a reason Changes was an unreleased studio session instead of coming out while he was alive. You might be nodding your head to 2Pac saying nothing over G Funk beats, but I know he could've done a lot more.fact of the matter is, 2pac produced classics before and after signing with death row...if the music he released with death row was all garbage, u might have a great point. but i enjoy the death row 2pac's music as much (if not more) than the pre-death row 2pac's music, as do most west coast hip-hop heads.Really? there's no difference between party gangsta Pac and introspective Pac to you? Maybe his serious shit doesn't hold as much meaning to you.yea...the introspective pac is shit u'd bump in your headphones while chillin. the gangsta pac is shit u'd knock in your ride with your peoples when u goin out to have a good time. both enjoyable in two different ways.
Quote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2012, 05:14:10 PMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 05:05:27 PMQuote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2012, 02:39:05 PMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 02:14:53 PMI agree with Petey. Just listen to Whats ya Phone # and imagine the kind of songs Pac could have been making instead. There's a reason Changes was an unreleased studio session instead of coming out while he was alive. You might be nodding your head to 2Pac saying nothing over G Funk beats, but I know he could've done a lot more.fact of the matter is, 2pac produced classics before and after signing with death row...if the music he released with death row was all garbage, u might have a great point. but i enjoy the death row 2pac's music as much (if not more) than the pre-death row 2pac's music, as do most west coast hip-hop heads.Really? there's no difference between party gangsta Pac and introspective Pac to you? Maybe his serious shit doesn't hold as much meaning to you.yea...the introspective pac is shit u'd bump in your headphones while chillin. the gangsta pac is shit u'd knock in your ride with your peoples when u goin out to have a good time. both enjoyable in two different ways.See if I wanted gangsta shit, that's what I listen to Dre or Snoop for. Pac had the ability to do something else, to say something actually meaningful with his music. So for him to go that lane is a disappointment. California Love might as well have been a Dre and Snoop song, wouldn't have made a difference to me.
Quote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 05:45:33 PMQuote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2012, 05:14:10 PMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 05:05:27 PMQuote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2012, 02:39:05 PMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 02:14:53 PMI agree with Petey. Just listen to Whats ya Phone # and imagine the kind of songs Pac could have been making instead. There's a reason Changes was an unreleased studio session instead of coming out while he was alive. You might be nodding your head to 2Pac saying nothing over G Funk beats, but I know he could've done a lot more.fact of the matter is, 2pac produced classics before and after signing with death row...if the music he released with death row was all garbage, u might have a great point. but i enjoy the death row 2pac's music as much (if not more) than the pre-death row 2pac's music, as do most west coast hip-hop heads.Really? there's no difference between party gangsta Pac and introspective Pac to you? Maybe his serious shit doesn't hold as much meaning to you.yea...the introspective pac is shit u'd bump in your headphones while chillin. the gangsta pac is shit u'd knock in your ride with your peoples when u goin out to have a good time. both enjoyable in two different ways.See if I wanted gangsta shit, that's what I listen to Dre or Snoop for. Pac had the ability to do something else, to say something actually meaningful with his music. So for him to go that lane is a disappointment. California Love might as well have been a Dre and Snoop song, wouldn't have made a difference to me.u may take it as that, but to me, it just shows versatility and the ability to venture out to different sub-genres of hip-hop. it's a talent, if anything. like i said, it'd be one thing if his death row hits weren't classic, but they are, so knockin him for bein able to come at an audience from both angles aint really legit, as long as he was tackling both angles at a high level.
Quote from: Kaka B. Ware on April 28, 2012, 06:09:01 PMlmao at u dont want to let garbage enter your system yet your on a westcoast gangster rap music forum for 24 hours a day.. if u havent noticed 85 % of the subject matter in gangster rap is garbage..no matter what the labelThe gangsta rap I listened to from the 90's was far from garbage. Gangsta rap was sort of like a modern day version of tribalism. Back Ancient Africa and the Middle East, members of a tribe would have different titles and job duties. For example you would have your warrior wing of the tribe, you would have your hunter gatherers, and so on. One vital segment of the tribe were the poets. The poets would glorify the virtues of the tribe. The were the voice of the tribe and they communicated their aspirations to the outside world. Gangsta rappers were the same way. They were great poets and artists reppin where they were from and their virtues in heroism, courage, and valor. Anyone who knows Snoop knows that Snoop has a good heart. Snoop is a righteous man. 2pac is a righteous man. The gangsta rap I was listening to growing up was mostly Death Row and it's affiliates. The weren't perfect, but for the most part it was positive.
lmao at u dont want to let garbage enter your system yet your on a westcoast gangster rap music forum for 24 hours a day.. if u havent noticed 85 % of the subject matter in gangster rap is garbage..no matter what the label
The blood gang embraces Tupac as a member even if YOU dont.
Quote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2012, 05:56:56 PMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 05:45:33 PMQuote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2012, 05:14:10 PMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 05:05:27 PMQuote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2012, 02:39:05 PMQuote from: BG Rapsodie on April 29, 2012, 02:14:53 PMI agree with Petey. Just listen to Whats ya Phone # and imagine the kind of songs Pac could have been making instead. There's a reason Changes was an unreleased studio session instead of coming out while he was alive. You might be nodding your head to 2Pac saying nothing over G Funk beats, but I know he could've done a lot more.fact of the matter is, 2pac produced classics before and after signing with death row...if the music he released with death row was all garbage, u might have a great point. but i enjoy the death row 2pac's music as much (if not more) than the pre-death row 2pac's music, as do most west coast hip-hop heads.Really? there's no difference between party gangsta Pac and introspective Pac to you? Maybe his serious shit doesn't hold as much meaning to you.yea...the introspective pac is shit u'd bump in your headphones while chillin. the gangsta pac is shit u'd knock in your ride with your peoples when u goin out to have a good time. both enjoyable in two different ways.See if I wanted gangsta shit, that's what I listen to Dre or Snoop for. Pac had the ability to do something else, to say something actually meaningful with his music. So for him to go that lane is a disappointment. California Love might as well have been a Dre and Snoop song, wouldn't have made a difference to me.u may take it as that, but to me, it just shows versatility and the ability to venture out to different sub-genres of hip-hop. it's a talent, if anything. like i said, it'd be one thing if his death row hits weren't classic, but they are, so knockin him for bein able to come at an audience from both angles aint really legit, as long as he was tackling both angles at a high level.But the bar to make those songs is so low compared to Pac's deeper stuff. I mean Dre didn't even write his own rhymes yet he was able to pump out gangsta shit and party jams like it was nothing. Those songs didn't require Pac's lyrical skill at all. Pac had a different kind of talent, but he stopped using it for the most part once he got with Death Row.
Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on April 28, 2012, 06:52:39 PMQuote from: Kaka B. Ware on April 28, 2012, 06:09:01 PMlmao at u dont want to let garbage enter your system yet your on a westcoast gangster rap music forum for 24 hours a day.. if u havent noticed 85 % of the subject matter in gangster rap is garbage..no matter what the labelThe gangsta rap I listened to from the 90's was far from garbage. Gangsta rap was sort of like a modern day version of tribalism. Back Ancient Africa and the Middle East, members of a tribe would have different titles and job duties. For example you would have your warrior wing of the tribe, you would have your hunter gatherers, and so on. One vital segment of the tribe were the poets. The poets would glorify the virtues of the tribe. The were the voice of the tribe and they communicated their aspirations to the outside world. Gangsta rappers were the same way. They were great poets and artists reppin where they were from and their virtues in heroism, courage, and valor. Anyone who knows Snoop knows that Snoop has a good heart. Snoop is a righteous man. 2pac is a righteous man. The gangsta rap I was listening to growing up was mostly Death Row and it's affiliates. The weren't perfect, but for the most part it was positive.no, it was garbage...even i can admit that.its just it was the soundtrack to your youth so you cherish it like uncle rico.songs like brenda had a baby etc dont hold a candle to songe like sam cookes change gon come....but unforuently in the 80 - 90s is when all music took a turn for the worst so a song like that is the closest thing this generation has to actual humaniatrian artists and shit like stevie wonder curtis mayfield etc. its a shame that to cats like brian this is the closest they will ever have to being truly inspired by music is listening to tupac rhyme enemy with hennesee over old isley samples.
Quote from: Maudizzle on April 28, 2012, 09:08:18 AMThat Cash Money album is one of his best... His album with Da Hood was good, so was his album with Glasses Malone.I don't know what you're talking about. Dude's never dropped one wack album and fillers are hard to find on his projects. Mack 10 might be the most consistent rapper on the West Coast.All I needed to hear was that Mack 10 was on Cash Money's label. That was enough for me to say he fell off and sold out. Then when I caught his video once the song was trash and the video was garbage. That was more than enough for me.
That Cash Money album is one of his best... His album with Da Hood was good, so was his album with Glasses Malone.I don't know what you're talking about. Dude's never dropped one wack album and fillers are hard to find on his projects. Mack 10 might be the most consistent rapper on the West Coast.
Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on April 28, 2012, 06:52:39 PMQuote from: Kaka B. Ware on April 28, 2012, 06:09:01 PMlmao at u dont want to let garbage enter your system yet your on a westcoast gangster rap music forum for 24 hours a day.. if u havent noticed 85 % of the subject matter in gangster rap is garbage..no matter what the labelThe gangsta rap I listened to from the 90's was far from garbage. Gangsta rap was sort of like a modern day version of tribalism. Back Ancient Africa and the Middle East, members of a tribe would have different titles and job duties. For example you would have your warrior wing of the tribe, you would have your hunter gatherers, and so on. One vital segment of the tribe were the poets. The poets would glorify the virtues of the tribe. The were the voice of the tribe and they communicated their aspirations to the outside world. Gangsta rappers were the same way. They were great poets and artists reppin where they were from and their virtues in heroism, courage, and valor. Anyone who knows Snoop knows that Snoop has a good heart. Snoop is a righteous man. 2pac is a righteous man. The gangsta rap I was listening to growing up was mostly Death Row and it's affiliates. The weren't perfect, but for the most part it was positive.[/quote]first this fool goes on and on about how slaves had it better than slave masters, and now hes relating death row records to ancient african poets. youve got a fucked up brain LOL what?
Quote from: Kaka B. Ware on April 28, 2012, 06:09:01 PMlmao at u dont want to let garbage enter your system yet your on a westcoast gangster rap music forum for 24 hours a day.. if u havent noticed 85 % of the subject matter in gangster rap is garbage..no matter what the labelThe gangsta rap I listened to from the 90's was far from garbage. Gangsta rap was sort of like a modern day version of tribalism. Back Ancient Africa and the Middle East, members of a tribe would have different titles and job duties. For example you would have your warrior wing of the tribe, you would have your hunter gatherers, and so on. One vital segment of the tribe were the poets. The poets would glorify the virtues of the tribe. The were the voice of the tribe and they communicated their aspirations to the outside world. Gangsta rappers were the same way. They were great poets and artists reppin where they were from and their virtues in heroism, courage, and valor. Anyone who knows Snoop knows that Snoop has a good heart. Snoop is a righteous man. 2pac is a righteous man. The gangsta rap I was listening to growing up was mostly Death Row and it's affiliates. The weren't perfect, but for the most part it was positive.[/quote]first this fool goes on and on about how slaves had it better than slave masters, and now hes relating death row records to ancient african poets. youve got a fucked up brain
first this fool goes on and on about how slaves had it better than slave masters, and now hes relating death row records to ancient african poets. youve got a fucked up brain