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can't it be fall already? we'd have the NFL back, the world series would be going on and the NBA season would be tipping off right after
Quote from: Smart Wilson on July 07, 2013, 03:02:51 PMcan't it be fall already? we'd have the NFL back, the world series would be going on and the NBA season would be tipping off right afterNah, don't wish my summer away bro
I used to have respect for NIK and his basketball view, and up until last year, we were always in agreement. Cham and other Lebron fans were so annoying with the "what if" games, i.e. "if Lebron had Shaq, if Lebron had better teammates and so on", basically making up excuses why Lebron was ring-less. I remember how we always called out Cham and other that nobody gives a fuck about a "what if" and what actually happened is the only thing that mattered.Well, fast forward 2 years and NIK is using the same bullshit logic to discredit Lebron's last 2 rings. Making up all this hypothetical scenarios and saying how last season was a short one, how Lebron was one shot aways from whatever NIK is claiming. But guess what? That did not fucking happen. Miami Heat won. For the 2nd year in a row. Nobody is going to remember the specifics on how they won. They will know that Lebron played his ass off to get Miami to the finals, despite Bosh and Wade going to the shitter. They will remember him having a shaky finals but that's nothing rare for the finals, which is a completely different chapter. He had some bad games, but a bad game in current Lebron world is having a triple double. A triple double.And most importantly, if you are dumb enough to play the what if game, which by itself, like anybody who played sports in their life knows, is totally pointless...you have the use it all the time. Not just when it's convenient for you. Just going by last couple of years, one might wonder WHAT IF the whole Laker team hadn't bailed out Kobe from that terrible game 7 against Boston. WHAT IF Gasol didn't score that tip in after Kobe's missed clutch shot against OKC?But like I've said, thinking like that is retarded because all everybody is going to remember and SHOULD remember is Kobe winning that ring number 4 and 5.
IF Bron had Dwight instead of Bosh he would of swept the Spurs...and probably have gone 82-0. Kobe just can't utilize him because he's a terrible teammate and has an even worse ego.
You needa just come to terms that you're mad that Game 7 was arguably the greatest game ever played by anyone, especially in a Game 7.
Quote from: Ma Sai Ya on July 07, 2013, 11:40:25 AMI have to agree.. If you're the best player in the league and on picks the defense goes under and gives you an uncontested shot, like not even a quick close, just gives you the shot, thats a HUGE flaw. Sure, LeBron shot his ass off in Game 7, but can he do that consistently? That is yet to be seen and with that said, how can you declare him the best in the league? Hell, I wouldnt argue with Durant being call best in the league. Kobe is still an elite player at 34-35, 16 years in, and what real flaw can you say he has, that he shoots too much? Well I guarantee that the Spurs wouldnt have checked Kobe like they checked Lebron because Kobe's shot is RESPECTED, Lebron's isnt. So can u declare someone the best player in the league and their SHOT isnt even respected?real spit tho... kobe woulda averaged 50 ppg if he was guarded like lebron
I have to agree.. If you're the best player in the league and on picks the defense goes under and gives you an uncontested shot, like not even a quick close, just gives you the shot, thats a HUGE flaw. Sure, LeBron shot his ass off in Game 7, but can he do that consistently? That is yet to be seen and with that said, how can you declare him the best in the league? Hell, I wouldnt argue with Durant being call best in the league. Kobe is still an elite player at 34-35, 16 years in, and what real flaw can you say he has, that he shoots too much? Well I guarantee that the Spurs wouldnt have checked Kobe like they checked Lebron because Kobe's shot is RESPECTED, Lebron's isnt. So can u declare someone the best player in the league and their SHOT isnt even respected?
Quote from: NIKCC on July 07, 2013, 11:42:28 AMQuote from: Ma Sai Ya on July 07, 2013, 11:40:25 AMI have to agree.. If you're the best player in the league and on picks the defense goes under and gives you an uncontested shot, like not even a quick close, just gives you the shot, thats a HUGE flaw. Sure, LeBron shot his ass off in Game 7, but can he do that consistently? That is yet to be seen and with that said, how can you declare him the best in the league? Hell, I wouldnt argue with Durant being call best in the league. Kobe is still an elite player at 34-35, 16 years in, and what real flaw can you say he has, that he shoots too much? Well I guarantee that the Spurs wouldnt have checked Kobe like they checked Lebron because Kobe's shot is RESPECTED, Lebron's isnt. So can u declare someone the best player in the league and their SHOT isnt even respected?real spit tho... kobe woulda averaged 50 ppg if he was guarded like lebronForget the "hypothetical" arguments. We deal in reality. Average 50 points?!!! Doesn't Kobe have most of the worst shooting games (percentage wise) ever? So yeah, he could average 50, but with 50 shots a game.
Quote from: Meho on July 07, 2013, 03:40:40 PMI used to have respect for NIK and his basketball view, and up until last year, we were always in agreement. Cham and other Lebron fans were so annoying with the "what if" games, i.e. "if Lebron had Shaq, if Lebron had better teammates and so on", basically making up excuses why Lebron was ring-less. I remember how we always called out Cham and other that nobody gives a fuck about a "what if" and what actually happened is the only thing that mattered.Well, fast forward 2 years and NIK is using the same bullshit logic to discredit Lebron's last 2 rings. Making up all this hypothetical scenarios and saying how last season was a short one, how Lebron was one shot aways from whatever NIK is claiming. But guess what? That did not fucking happen. Miami Heat won. For the 2nd year in a row. Nobody is going to remember the specifics on how they won. They will know that Lebron played his ass off to get Miami to the finals, despite Bosh and Wade going to the shitter. They will remember him having a shaky finals but that's nothing rare for the finals, which is a completely different chapter. He had some bad games, but a bad game in current Lebron world is having a triple double. A triple double.And most importantly, if you are dumb enough to play the what if game, which by itself, like anybody who played sports in their life knows, is totally pointless...you have the use it all the time. Not just when it's convenient for you. Just going by last couple of years, one might wonder WHAT IF the whole Laker team hadn't bailed out Kobe from that terrible game 7 against Boston. WHAT IF Gasol didn't score that tip in after Kobe's missed clutch shot against OKC?But like I've said, thinking like that is retarded because all everybody is going to remember and SHOULD remember is Kobe winning that ring number 4 and 5. all im saying is lebron is not the best player in the entire world of basketball
mvp=popularity contest
Quote from: NIKCC on July 07, 2013, 09:20:33 PMmvp=popularity contestso who is better, Jordan Farmar?
Quote from: Smart Wilson on July 07, 2013, 09:25:45 PMQuote from: NIKCC on July 07, 2013, 09:20:33 PMmvp=popularity contestso who is better, Jordan Farmar? LOL. Agreed on the MVP point though, not that LeBron didn't deserve this, but you can look through most sports historically and find people who didn't recieve individual accolades for reasons outside of who the best player was.