SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY (Official Discussion)

[Mr. Sunshine]

I personnally enjoy this album, flows well from start to finish, Snoop sounds really good on it.

I would buy the CD version if Thank You was on it. I wil wait for a re-release of the album with the track on it.

I hope Snoop Dogg continues to drop music with Death Row.

They added a track to the digital version and released the instrumentals shortly afterwards, but I think that will take until the album is repressed. I would be happy for everyone involved, but as I said9, how many units do you think they were pressed on CD have?
and of course, there will be a lot to come
New Track by Jane Handcock & Charlie Bereal
Charlie Bereal's new album is coming soon and I'm excited for it, the last two singles were really good
Walk With The Father (Single)
Never Gonna Take Away My Love (Single)
check out 11-11-11 (2109) & Testimony (2017)


https://open.spotify.com/album/4mCuJFUhX66zBbDcECAXLv

[bd94s10]

Where’s the proof? Saying it’s fake doesn’t mean shit! I’ve seen many videos & pics of Snoop signing these but the videos you attach give no proof!!

Age, I am not saying this but the person in the videos is making the claim. A buddy of mine follows this guy's work closely (my friend collects autographs from many different things such as TV, film, etc.) and I looked into him. He has several things signed by Snoop and said the signature is no comparison. He even calls out other artists for using something called an "auto pen." I'm not telling anyone else what to do but I'm sending mine back. I was suspect of it when I first saw it and the fact they didn't bump the price up at all... I just felt like it was too good to be true. $33 plus shipping. I also didn't like that they added it after the fact knowing most fans already bought the stuff. Then they added the Spotify "green exclusive" back after it sold out and now it doesn't say Spotify exclusive. Just tactics I see from these labels. I personally don't like. Oh well. The world goes on.

[HighEyeCue]

Absolutely not. There was a chance for a Dre solo project to achieve that, but not for a Snoop's album.

Dre's name is attached to the album

[bd94s10]

I think Dre putting out Marsha Ambrosius album is decent evidence he may not care much about sales anymore. No way he expected that album to sell.

I concur. Dre has made so much money in his lifetime he doesn't need anymore (even with his divorce). Most people I know had no clue Dre sold his stake in The Chronic plus other work (going back to NWA) for $200+ million a few years back. This of course included assets that generate almost $10 million USD annually. To me, he has hit a level that most will never get to. He can do anything he wants. He said in The Defiant Ones that they often make music they know they are never gonna release. They make it of themselves. Now as a fan, we go man that is stupid or that is dumb. But when you make it to the league they are in, I can only image... they do whatever they want. They release 'Missionary' and lets say its 80/20 - 80% love it and 20% hate it.. they walk away with tons of write-offs and more music to perform if they do a world tour. I've said this before that the record business is changing daily. If it wasn't for the resurgence in vinyl, cassettes and some CDs they wouldn't be selling even nearly what they are today. The artists make the most money (from what I've read) performing, merch sales at concerts, etc. We can all say this or that about the album but at the end o the day it is what it is. I haven't like a lot of Snoop's music over the past 30+ years.... but he has morphed into an icon and we are fortunate he still continues to drop music. I ask people this... would you rather your fav artist drop music or fade away? I'm a big Outkast fan... their run is undeniable... but with 3000 doing his thing we will prob never get an Outkast album again. Sure I love Outkast but I hate that we won't get new music. I'd rather the Ice Cube and Snoops of the world still drop something!!

https://hypebeast.com/2023/1/dr-dre-sells-catalog-universal-music-shamrock-holdings-200-million-usd-deal

"According to the publication, the deal includes artist royalties from two of his solo albums and his share of N.W.A. artist royalties, producer royalties, as well as a song catalog which Dr. Dre does not own publishing. This could include 75% to 90% of the package revenue, likely to be acquired by Shamrock, which also owns some of Taylor Swift’s recordings. UMG will likely acquire the remaining percentage. Under the UMG deal, the acquisition will likely see them acquire the master recording of “The Chronic,” which will revert to Dr. Dre from Death Row Entertainment. While sources have confirmed the deal was for $250 million USD, it is likely to be below this number but well above $200 million USD."

[Mat]

That Sticky situation beat switch up was dope

[Sccit]

Brother sorry but you are absolutely delusional if you seriously believe that and it shows that you're completely out of touch with the reality and the current music situation (which is understandable, but still...)

"AT LEAST current Em's numbers" damn....I guarantee you, the problem here isn't quality. While Missionary is not anything special, it's far from a bad album. It's crazy naive to believe this would be doing any better if it was a G-Funk record.

Em dropped an absolute dogshit that is Revival back in 2017, and it still did almost 300k. That alone should tell you that the quality isn't the main factor in all this.

Compton didn't have any hits and wasn't exactly a "quality music" by Dre standards, ... Still moved 300k because Dre didn't stained his legacy by dropping 10 low quality projects every year

If this was a Dre solo album it would've moved 80-100K.

Tyler dropped a project with some experimental shit on it that sounded absolutely nothing like a west coast album, but still did insane numbers which shows that the "real west coast hip-hop consumer" is a very small minority
Bro I would love to see that universe in which dropping one good album after 17 years of garbage could make you the biggest rapper in the world again overnight...

you don’t believe in the power of art


simple as that


so if there’s a certain trend going on.. you can break that trend if you are great enough to do so. this is a universal fact. this go round, dre wasn’t great enough. it has nothing to do with delusion, this is how the world has worked since the beginning of time.

[Sccit]

if "thank you" would be promoted well with a music video and good marketing instead releasing the demo in drinkchamps a month ago before album drops, it would make a nice impact and sales.

thank you would’ve definitely did better than gorgeous or outa da blue wit a proper push

but still NOWHERE near the level of a dre classic .. it’s a cool song, but for example, if it were on 2001 or the chronic it would still be the worst song on those albums.

[Sccit]

I googled again, the 36k are digital purchases or physical, stream is counted in the charts but not in the purchases? I know in my umfalls like work, no one who buys cd's or digital, only streaming

wrong .. streaming gets counted in sales

[Sccit]

[teecee]

thank you would’ve definitely did better than gorgeous or outa da blue wit a proper push

but still NOWHERE near the level of a dre classic .. it’s a cool song, but for example, if it were on 2001 or the chronic it would still be the worst song on those albums.

I understand there are some shortcomings on the album, but do you like anything about it?  You not loving Snoops flows on here?? 

[Duck Duck Doggy]

I completely agree with Necro

And I’m a person who lets albums grow on me and I keep wanting to like this album. I keep giving it chances. I tried listening while completely sober. Tried while smoking. Tried while driving. It’s just not hitting for me. Honestly I think I prefer the Eminem album over this

[Sccit]

I understand there are some shortcomings on the album, but do you like anything about it?  You not loving Snoops flows on here??

like i said, it’s not a bad album … there are some good songs

and snoop does sound fresh in parts, but it sounds more mechanical in others, if u get what i’m saying

like dre tried really hard to channel 93 snoop, and while some of it works, a lot of it sounds overly contrived


i honestly haven’t listened to the album much, but from what i did hear, i liked sticcy situations, pressure, fire, gunz n smoke and a couple others

[Sccit]

my snoop album rankings..


CLASSIX:
1.DOGGYSTYLE

NEAR CLASSIX:
2.THA DOGGFATHER
3.THA LAST MEAL
4.TOP DOGG
5.THE HARD WAY (WIT 213)
6.BLUE CARPET TREATMENT
7.THE LOST SESSIONS

GREAT:
8.7 DAYS OF FUNK
9.R&G
10.PAID DA COST
11.SMOKEFEST
12.DEAD MAN WALKIN

DOPE:
13.COOLAID
14.I WANNA THANK ME
15.BODR
16.EGO TRIPPIN
17.NEVA LEFT
18.CUZZNZ (WIT DAZ)
19.MISSIONARY

SOLID:
20.DA GAME IS TO BE SOLD
21.BUSH
22.DOGGUMENTARY
23.MAC & DEVIN
24.220
25.MAKE AMERICA CRIP AGAIN
26.REINCARNATED
27.MALICE N WONDERLAND
28.MORE MALICE
29.STONERS
30.BIBLE OF LOVE


barely scratched snoops top 20 in my rankings

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

After a week of proper listening, the highlight of this album is Snoop's rapping and the mixing. However it feels like something is missing from it, its lacking soul., there is no depth to it. This is supposed to be a reunion album, but there is no representation of it, where is thr this is more of an ICU project to me  .

[goodyoung]

Dre's name is attached to the album

Name being attached =/= a solo project though

For example, Kendrick's name was attached to the Black Panther soundtrack, it sold like 100k first week, while his solo album did 600k (not the best analogy, I know, but I'm sure you got the idea)