ICE CUBE - MAN DOWN (Offical Discussion)

[Sccit]

He knows once he admits that he’s supporting Kamala and the democrats that then he won’t be able to stand up to the scrutiny.  But are you surprised he’s not standing up and stating his position like a man?  I mean Kamala and the Democrats are being pushed by one giant army and agenda towards transgender and homosexuality so being a man  about his shit don’t come easy

pretty much this

and he’s just guna keep repeating the same thing over & over in novel form

trim the fat fool.. cotdamn … no one wants to read all that

[TraceOneInfinite]

pretty much this

and he’s just guna keep repeating the same thing over & over in novel form

trim the fat fool.. cotdamn … no one wants to read all that

What’s his argument?  That there is systemic racism and that trumps a racist?  Okay great, so then did Kamala and Biden solve the race issue in their 4 years?  And how come black people move to white neighborhoods if whites are such a threat to them?

[Sccit]

What’s his argument?  That there is systemic racism and that trumps a racist?  Okay great, so then did Kamala and Biden solve the race issue in their 4 years?

yup .. his argument is that trump is racist and his proof is a bunch of nonsense like “trump said mexicans are rapists” or “trump had white nationalists at his rally!” ….. just stuff that is either completely taken outa context or unfairly used against trump. basically, just repeating the liberal playbook and presenting it as if he’s a lawyer instead of trying to engage in a genuine conversation.

once he wouldn’t even say who he was voting for i was done. we not playin that game.

[Safe+Sound]

pretty much this

and he’s just guna keep repeating the same thing over & over in novel form

trim the fat fool.. cotdamn … no one wants to read all that

It seems that you’re once again shifting the conversation away from the actual points we’re discussing. Instead of addressing the substance of the argument or the evidence I’ve provided, you’re falling back on personal attacks and a fixation on irrelevant talking points. My political affiliations, or whether I’m voting for Kamala Harris, have no bearing on the discussion of systemic racism, the actions of specific public figures, or the credibility of the evidence presented.

You’ve quoted someone else’s post implying that I’m avoiding scrutiny by not explicitly declaring a political stance, however: my argument stands regardless of who I’m voting for. It’s not about deflecting or avoiding a question; it’s about keeping the focus on the real issue at hand, which is the factual record and behaviors of public figures like Trump, Bannon, Carlson, and Ice Cube.

To address your point about “repeating the same thing over & over”: If I’m revisiting key points, it’s because you’ve continually sidestepped them instead of engaging directly. The length of my responses reflects the complexity of these issues—things like racism, political manipulation, and public discourse aren’t simple matters. Simplifying them into slogans or sound bites might be convenient, but it doesn’t do justice to the depth of the conversation.

If you’d prefer shorter responses, then I’ll trim it down for you:

   •   You claimed Kamala Harris’s use of slang and cultural references is manipulative and racist, but you previously argued that using such language was a reflection of diverse social groups and not inherently racist. That’s a clear contradiction in your argument, which you haven’t addressed. You also seem to have a lot to say on behalf of the "Black community." Are you African American?

   •   You dismissed evidence on Trump, Bannon, and Carlson as “hearsay,” but you’ve provided no counter-evidence to back that up. Instead of addressing the well-documented incidents, you’ve ignored them. Dismissing facts without engagement doesn’t invalidate them.

If you want to continue the discussion, I suggest we focus on addressing the core points directly. Otherwise, it’s clear that you’re more interested in sidestepping the argument with personal attacks and accusations than engaging in a meaningful conversation.

So, here’s my challenge to you: set aside the political affiliations and focus on the issues. We can debate the facts and discuss the evidence I’ve presented. If you believe it’s wrong, explain why—without resorting to distractions and personal insults.

Your move.

[teecee]

I wish these topics could be about MUSIC!

But, I will say, Safe and Sound owning Scitt and Infinite with this shit.  I don’t have a “horse in the race” as I’m Canadian, and there will be disadvantages for us with either of Trump or Kamala.   But Safe and Sound making articulate points with substance and SCCIT and Infinite just saying the same shit I read a lot of anti-Dems say.

And guys, no need to get upset with me…just an observation. 

Now, most importantly, I hope Cube drops a banging album. It’s been way too long.

[Ebony BONeZ]

No, it's actually not the question. Even if he's doing absolutely nothing, it has no bearing on the issues he brought it. Don't try to move the goal post when he brings receipts.

I don't wanna argue any more
You're right
Everyone is right beside me
I'm out of my depth here

[Sccit]

I wish these topics could be about MUSIC!

But, I will say, Safe and Sound owning Scitt and Infinite with this shit.  I don’t have a “horse in the race” as I’m Canadian, and there will be disadvantages for us with either of Trump or Kamala.   But Safe and Sound making articulate points with substance and SCCIT and Infinite just saying the same shit I read a lot of anti-Dems say.

And guys, no need to get upset with me…just an observation. 

Now, most importantly, I hope Cube drops a banging album. It’s been way too long.

you are obviously a liberal and democrat leaning, am i wrong?

if the guy can’t even answer whether he’s voting for kamala or not, why should i engage beyond that?

i addressed the trump saying “mexicans are rapists!” point and he danced around that… trump never said that.

beyond that, you expect me to address every lie 1 by 1 and if not that means i’m getting owned … lmao … one who argues with a fool is in turn a fool. 

and i’m not even a trumper like that .. but between him and kamala, he is clearly the more credible candidate, and she clearly is an unqualified race baiting panderer

if you have anything to add about the album, go ahead. we believe in free speech on this side 😉

[Sccit]

   •   You claimed Kamala Harris’s use of slang and cultural references is manipulative and racist, but you previously argued that using such language was a reflection of diverse social groups and not inherently racist. That’s a clear contradiction in your argument, which you haven’t addressed. You also seem to have a lot to say on behalf of the "Black community." Are you African American?

so u want me to answer questions that have nothing to do with anything but u wont even answer who you’re voting for lollllll

once u answer mine i’ll address all your points and answer all your questions 1 by 1

but u have to reciprocate.. this is not a 1 way convo.

so i’ll ask again

are u voting for kamala?

   

[WCThang]

2-3 pages of absolute BS with nothing to do about the album or music. Shouldn't be allowed on a forum designed to discuss music. Free country, but I assure you nobody wants to come into a thread about a Ice Cube album to read your political arguments.

Take political BS elsewhere, like DMs.

[Safe+Sound]

so u want me to answer questions that have nothing to do with anything but u wont even answer who you’re voting for lollllll

once u answer mine i’ll address all your points and answer all your questions 1 by 1

but u have to reciprocate.. this is not a 1 way convo.

so i’ll ask again

are u voting for kamala?

You’re repeatedly trying to steer the conversation away from the points I’ve raised, and the fact that you’re so focused on my vote shows that you’re avoiding the real discussion.

I’ve brought up specific, evidence-backed instances of racial insensitivity and questionable associations involving Trump, Bannon, Ice Cube and others. You’ve yet to address any of those with substance. Instead, you’ve shifted the focus to a personal question that doesn’t alter the facts or invalidate the issues at hand.

Here’s the deal: I’m not playing a game where my vote becomes a deflection from addressing systemic racism, Trump’s track record, and Ice Cube's dealings with all of it. If you’re interested in having a serious discussion, I’m all in. But if this is just about dodging the arguments and making it about me instead of the issues, then there’s nothing left for us to debate.

I’ve put the facts on the table. The real question is: are you willing to address them?

[Ebony BONeZ]

Can we talk about Cube now?
I'm not even in sure I'll get to hear the album unless we can get physical copies somewhere because my spotify is stuck on shuffle and I don't download music because I don't know how to
Never done iTunes or Apple music
Does anyone know where we can get physical copies?

[Sccit]

You’re repeatedly trying to steer the conversation away from the points I’ve raised, and the fact that you’re so focused on my vote shows that you’re avoiding the real discussion.

I’ve brought up specific, evidence-backed instances of racial insensitivity and questionable associations involving Trump, Bannon, Ice Cube and others. You’ve yet to address any of those with substance. Instead, you’ve shifted the focus to a personal question that doesn’t alter the facts or invalidate the issues at hand.

Here’s the deal: I’m not playing a game where my vote becomes a deflection from addressing systemic racism, Trump’s track record, and Ice Cube's dealings with all of it. If you’re interested in having a serious discussion, I’m all in. But if this is just about dodging the arguments and making it about me instead of the issues, then there’s nothing left for us to debate.

I’ve put the facts on the table. The real question is: are you willing to address them?

like others stated, this is a music forum …. no one wants to read your novels homie

if u wana answer my questions, i’ll be glad to answer yours …. but you’re terrified of revealing your political affiliation and i understand why; it will expose your agenda

so back to ice cube we go……….

[Sccit]

Can we talk about Cube now?
I'm not even in sure I'll get to hear the album unless we can get physical copies somewhere because my spotify is stuck on shuffle and I don't download music because I don't know how to
Never done iTunes or Apple music
Does anyone know where we can get physical copies?

you can always use youtube as well if they don’t release physicals

[astra4322]

The cover of the album is revealed on new Cubes merch

[Ebony BONeZ]

The cover of the album is revealed on new Cubes merch

I'd actually like to know who the man is laying on the ground