YOUNG DAZ "DOGG POUND 4 LIFE" BIOPIC

[TraceOneInfinite]

the difference between higheyecue and infinite is that higheyecue knew of snoop stabbing pac in the back in real time..

where as infinite only learned about it years later.

pac wasn't just having some regular rap beef with biggie lol .... he literally thought this guy tried to have him killed and was sleeping with his wife as revenge.

and then snoop goes on radio and says he fucks with biggie n puff .. it's the ultimate betrayal. especially in the eyes of a loyal soldier ala pac.

it would be like if a friend of mine went on social media and talked about how much he loves hamas and how he really wants to visit gaza to spend some time with the cats who commited October 7.

see, infinite just WANTS pac n snoop to have been cool in the last days, because these were like his childhood heroes. it's like telling my son that buzz lightyear and woody from toy story actually hate each other- he wouldn't wana believe it and be totally heartbroken if it were true, which would put him in absolute denial.


but facts are facts .... being 3 years older not guna change reality. especially when u yourself only knew of the backstabbing incident years later.

I granted HighEyeCue on the part of Snoop going on ready and saying that.  And I said repeatedly that that was only the last few days of Pac and Snoops having known each other since 93'

I even made a long analogy about it Pippen had said something at the 6th championship parade — does that negate them being homies to win the 6 championships just for an argument in the last dayz?

[TraceOneInfinite]

some of us are good at reading energy and seeing the character of someone through their actions from past occurances and recognizing how said person would react in certain situations

there are a few different types of character molds in this world, and once you've dealt with them you can generally understand how each mold responds to certain instances if you are the type that thinks beyond a surface level

if you are someone who views life on a psychological and spiritual level then u can pretty much predict how a specific character would generally react to a certain occurrence


i used to think this power of predictive foregone conclusion was a normal human characteristic, but i've come to realize that very few of us got the vision like that

Even Napoleon said the same shit that Soopafly and I said — he said recently in an interview that "at the time, far as we knew they were homies and loved each other — in retrospect you can see instances where Snoop may have been jealous"

So Sccit are you going to say Napoleon is wrong too??

By the way, I like it that you are taking it deeper with some of the insights you dropped in this thread and I wish you would go more in depth in a seperate thread.  But go watch House of Blues summer of 96' and tell me Pac and Snoop ain't love and respect each other as homiez at the height of the pinnacle of the rap golden age that will never exist again

[Sccit]

I granted HighEyeCue on the part of Snoop going on ready and saying that.  And I said repeatedly that that was only the last few days of Pac and Snoops having known each other since 93'

I even made a long analogy about it Pippen had said something at the 6th championship parade — does that negate them being homies to win the 6 championships just for an argument in the last dayz?

what's your point tho? pac n biggie were best friends at one point

friends fall out all the time

[Sccit]

Even Napoleon said the same shit that Soopafly and I said — he said recently in an interview that "at the time, far as we knew they were homies and loved each other — in retrospect you can see instances where Snoop may have been jealous"

So Sccit are you going to say Napoleon is wrong too??

By the way, I like it that you are taking it deeper with some of the insights you dropped in this thread and I wish you would go more in depth in a seperate thread.  But go watch House of Blues summer of 96' and tell me Pac and Snoop ain't love and respect each other as homiez at the height of the pinnacle of the rap golden age that will never exist again

once again, snoops betrayal was well after the house of blues

and napoleon wasn't around in those final weeks, he's just speaking on their relationship before the beef

all good tho.. i'm just giving u some perspective..  i know where u comin from

[Sccit]

You been hanging around Ebony Bonez too much playboy.all that crazy shit starting to wear off on you 😂

you sound like a liberal

"reading people's energy isn't real and spiritual depth is bogus!"

next u guna be advocating to take God out the pledge of allegiance in classrooms

 

[hitsaw]

Did Pac ever diss Snoop? I thought they was best friends.

[TraceOneInfinite]

Did Pac ever diss Snoop? I thought they was best friends.

Exactly 👍

It's revisionist history like a lot of things.  Somebody made another good point in the thread that after Snoop's murder trial he wanted to take the easy way and just be like "oh I like everybody" because he was scared, and had kids and family to think about — and it was no longer about making his name on the streets, he didn't want more drama

Truth is, Snoop was riding with Pac, they were like brothers at the top of the game.  And Snoop just kind of came soft in loyalty there in the last dayz of their friendship

Pac was gonna challenge him and make him own up to that.  But not to the point that snoop really needed to bring a knife on that private jet — and look what happened — nothing — Snoop never got threatened on the plane and never even needed it

[HighEyeCue]

Did Pac ever diss Snoop? I thought they was best friends.

yeah I thought the same thing at the time

there were plenty of things that I thought were true when I was young and later found out to be all a lie

most things actually

[The Predator]

In one of them Neckbone interviews he mentions that Snoop left Pac and Death Row hanging when they went to have a drunk school fight in the park (Central Park), but ended up being surrounded by Nasty Nas and a 100 or so NY goons...made it out alive and lucky not to get jumped as Nas most likely gave them a pass whilst Snoop was on radio showing Biggie and NY luv.

When Biggie used to call up the radio, he would tell NY to represent and trailers (Snoop's) would get got shot up.

To his credit Neckbone dont hate on anyone in those interviews, this the one thing that he shook his head @ 

They even played a clip of Snoop casually telling porkies about that incident 

[O.E.800]

you sound like a liberal

"reading people's energy isn't real and spiritual depth is bogus!"

next u guna be advocating to take God out the pledge of allegiance in classrooms

 

God wasn't in the original pledge of allegiance dude. It wasn't standardized until World War II. Eisenhower added ‘Under God' during the cold war in 1954 so it's only been around for 70 years my man.

[O.E.800]

Did Pac ever diss Snoop? I thought they was best friends.

According to Suge, there's an unreleased song from 2pac dissing Snoop from beginning to end. He talked about it during an interview around the time when he first got out of prison - can't remember which one. But he said he wasn't going to put it out.

[Soopafly DPGC]

you sound like a liberal

"reading people's energy isn't real and spiritual depth is bogus!"

next u guna be advocating to take God out the pledge of allegiance in classrooms

 

I think you're confused, it's the opposite homie.  Libs are the ones who are 'spiritual' and believe in this outer world energy. 

Anyways, Infinite has provided some proof through Napoleon's interviews, i've given you proof through videos of Pac's last few months still talking positively about Snoop.

So other than your 'nonliberal' stance of "you could read Pac's spiritual energy", do you have any sort of proof Pac hated Snoop at the end?  Not something from Suge because we all know when it comes to Snoop and Dre, he's full of shit.  And i'm being sincere, but I'm genuinely curious from those who were around Pac at the very end, if they've said anything about how he was gonna start going after Snoop?  And not just 'it's common sense, if someone says they like your enemies, you're gonna hate them"....but anything from any of the other Outlawz who were there with Pac til the very end saying Pac hated Snoop. 

[The Predator]

According to Suge, there's an unreleased song from 2pac dissing Snoop from beginning to end. He talked about it during an interview around the time when he first got out of prison - can't remember which one. But he said he wasn't going to put it out.

Yew, old Suge mentioned 2Pac in one of his fits and tantrums spit fire on Snoop in a studio session, but Knight was not looking to fuck with one of his bankable stars publicly.

It's also Suge yappin so maybe bullshit, but it's the kinda thing a heated Pac would of most def done.

Suge would of put it out afterwards on the funny 'Tha Row' diss comps, for sure if he had the chance...might of been blocked or asked not to be released by the Pac estate.

Death Row Records effectively lost the rights to Tupac Shakur's core catalog and unreleased master recordings through a 1997 settlement with his mother, Afeni Shakur, which granted the estate ownership of his unreleased works, followed by a 2018 legal resolution confirming the estate's complete control after corporate bankruptcies

If it exists, hardcore 2Pac collectors might of have found it by now or it's vaulted up.

No producer, other artist, engineer etc...has mentioned it that i can recall, if they still alive.

[Sccit]

I think you're confused, it's the opposite homie.  Libs are the ones who are 'spiritual' and believe in this outer world energy. 

Anyways, Infinite has provided some proof through Napoleon's interviews, i've given you proof through videos of Pac's last few months still talking positively about Snoop.

So other than your 'nonliberal' stance of "you could read Pac's spiritual energy", do you have any sort of proof Pac hated Snoop at the end?  Not something from Suge because we all know when it comes to Snoop and Dre, he's full of shit.  And i'm being sincere, but I'm genuinely curious from those who were around Pac at the very end, if they've said anything about how he was gonna start going after Snoop?  And not just 'it's common sense, if someone says they like your enemies, you're gonna hate them"....but anything from any of the other Outlawz who were there with Pac til the very end saying Pac hated Snoop.

outter worldly energy and spirituality is always tied in to God .. and no, libs are very very anti-God, so i'm not sure what u goin on about

napoleon only spoke on their relationship pre beef


i don't get it.. you lack the ability to read and react? so you think everyone should be the same?

for instance, we can conclude based on your previous actions that when a thread on a new daz project come out, you will enter the thread and start trolling about how excited you are because we've all been waiting for some new daz shit .. it's called being observant

are u an athiest by any chance? doesn't have much to do with the topic at hand, but i was genuinely curious.

[Sccit]

yeah I thought the same thing at the time

there were plenty of things that I thought were true when I was young and later found out to be all a lie

most things actually

some people find out and still wana hold on to their child ideologies

it's like finding out santa isn't real lol