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Then he tried with Doggystyle All-Stars, but they were going nowhere with that single. He chose a horrible single. Plus, nobody knew who E-White and the rest were. That was poor marketing.Grab some of the brightest acts out West, F.A.B., Locksmith, Sly Boogy, Planet Asia, Chace In, Ahmad, all the respectable emcees, and help bring them up.
Blaming Snoop & Dre again Im tired of this shit
Good Topic SGV.
Quote from: 40oz GRApHire on October 31, 2003, 09:53:16 AMGood Topic SGV.One of the 8453413587 topics about this subject
Dre and Snoop cant carry every one on the West and making them obligated to do so is kinda "upid, sta" (pig latin all up in ya!)Good music is very much beyond Dre and Snoop. I wouldnt want them to have their hands in everything out the West. We gotta keep creativity flowing even if it means the project doesnt sell well. Id rather that then a plat plaque. Just my opinion. Ax
Now, do Dre and Snoop have to do this? No. But, if they want to be, and if people want to call them, the Kings of the West Coast, they're going to have to. It's plain and simple. If you call Dre and Snoop the Kings of the West, and say they don't need to support out talent, then I can't take you serious.That's all it is. Dre and Snoop are SUPPOSED to be the Kings of the West, but they're not leading their Kingdom, like a King is supposed to.
Yeah its all snoop+dre's fault... What about...Dilated Peoples? They rep LA and do just fine... right?People Under The Stairs? bay cats doin just fine without screamin wessssydeeeee non stopYea, Dilated are the biggest act on the West. . People Under The Stairs, oh yea, everyone knows them. They can walk anyone into a record label office and get them signed on the spot, thanks to their huge status. Horrible, and I mean horrible, examples.ok those 2 arent typical 'west coast gangsta shit'.. more into the backpacker zone.. strong affiliation would probably hurt their market.. but why?because of the past the west coast is associated mainly with ignorant ass disses and gangstaism.Shade Sheist damn near did it on this own (if you discount the payola accusations..) until his album release fucked up.. On his own? LMAO. No. He had Damizza, and Shade is still not a house hold name. Not even with the Programmer of L.A.'s number 1 station could Shade blow up.Nates got huge exposure through tracks like 'next episode' and 'Oh no' (and a zillion others..) oh but theres a strong snoop + dre affiil.. so its all because of that, not because he can sing his ass off.. ..on his own he's never been that big, but often his guest spots are stellar... funny huh? Nate is a feature artist. Nothing more, nothing less. He can't break any artists.Here's what I believe is a strong case that proves Dre+Snoop affiliation wont blow you up.Dj Quik... Quik shoulda got better exposure from Addictive.. in a way Dre put him on there.So.. lets see.. Dre.. super-producer acussed of having a big assed ego.. let another producer have the first single track on a project from his own label... Yea, I remember everyone giving Dre props for that beat. Was Dre denying it? I don't remember him bigging up Quik for it. LMAO.Oh and what about Dre putting Quik on 'put it on me'?The song was on the Dre+Snoop affil'd movie Training Day, it was on the soundtrack for that movie! and had a video.. and that video's on the DVD.. and quik even put the song on this own album and Quik later worked with Truth Hurts and put another track with her on his own album."Put It On Me" is putting someone on? If you say so. Dre gave Quik a very mediocre beat there. And, I never seen the video, so obviously it wasn't released to the mainstream.Dre put quik on two large songs in relatively quick succession showing both sides of him, one as a rapper, one as a producer.. Large? Oh yea, I remember everyone from Cali to Maine was bumping "Put It On Me." It was crazy.Did this blow Quik up? naww not really? I mean what else can they do unless they sign quik's ass and pump loadsa money into promoting him? but quik's been in the game too long.. he gotta have his own shit right?Quik is established, but with his sound.Can you imagine a Quik album with a lot of guest producers?Can you imagine a Quik album without all his people all over it?I think Quik's done the right thing here, but hell.. he gotta be frustrated.If Quik could get a real good deal, he'd blow up. Good promotion and good marketing. Dre could help there.I mean damn.. if all that didnt work for Quik who everyone admits is talented and shoulda blown up.. what the hell can you do?!Why you think people need Snoop+Dre to hold their hands?Commercially 'straight gangsta' is played out, and has been for years.](but we still love it!.. but in the public eye its gone)These days I think the industry is scared of certain west coast mentalities and stereotypes.Why are the always pushing a gimmick... mackin, flossing, blingin.. poppin ya colla.. ridin on spinners, pimpin.. stuntin.. etc etc.. Certain West Coast mentalities? Stereotypes? Macking?! LMAO. Everyone's on that shit. Flossing, Blinging, Riding Spinners, Pimping, Stunin, that's the whole industry. What kind of bullshit is this?whats next? having the name of your crew tattoo'd on ya forehead?