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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2002, 06:36:05 AM »
a white person, oh pleez


i made a research for school about hip hop, and who great hip hop is the slave way back when they were singin on the plantations, than one of them decide to sing on a record..... they didn't start tha djing as far as i can remember but they created hip hop
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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2002, 08:18:38 AM »
Black, white, brown, red, yellow, green, blue, purple, whatever. The important fact is that someone started it.

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A man started hip-hop. That's enough.


What if it was a woman?  ;)
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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2002, 08:24:01 AM »
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I thought everyone already knew this, but I guess not, cuz Rodzilla and Roccy seemed shocked when I told them...I remember hearing that a White Guy started the whole Hip Hop Culture or some shit by scratching his old vinyls...i forgot his name, but I'm almost postive I heard it more than once...I think one place I heard it was on a VH1 special "History of Hip Hop" or some shit...I bet everyone already knew this by now, but I'm just making sure because some people (*cough* E-A Ski *cough*) were saying the whites are stealing Hip Hop when they were the one's who started it...But whatever, it doesn't really make a differnce too me...PeaCe...



A WHITE HOMOSAPIEN STARTED HIP HOP!!


Yo homeboy... you really need to find this dude's name.
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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2002, 08:53:41 AM »
lmao@ everyone is claiming diffrent names LMFAO shit. I started hip-hop . pz
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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2002, 09:08:42 AM »
The Story NIK was describing sounds like Kool Herc's story. He's crediting for starting the whole hip hop DJ scratching thing.


But like Overseer said, There was probably this white guy who first started making weird noises with his Turntables but that doesn't mean he started Hip Hop. He was probably just a nerdy white boy playin with his turn tables.


I mean, for real, think about it. We all know Hip Hop started somewhere in New York. In nieghborhoods where mostly black people lived... Now do you really think that a white guy would have such a big influence on those people in that neighborhood... I doubt it.


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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2002, 09:20:05 AM »
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a white guy (from the BBCs audio workshop actually) was the first one to make odd noises with turntables waaaaaay back.

doesnt mean he invented hiphop, just some aspects of DJing ;)





Yea, thats what I was talking about, thanks...They said some white dude started fucking around with turntables, and created scratching, which was the first aspect of the Hip Hop culture...I didn't mean too get all the black guys mad, but it's just what I heard...So what I meant was The whole Hip Hop Culture was started by a white man...But like some people said, you can't credit one person...PeAcE
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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2002, 11:00:11 AM »
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a white person, oh pleez


i made a research for school about hip hop, and who great hip hop is the slave way back when they were singin on the plantations, than one of them decide to sing on a record..... they didn't start tha djing as far as i can remember but they created hip hop


the future slaves knew their hipop already when living in africa...

i earlier posted this:
the roots of hiphop comes from africa, 2000 years back... since people couldnt read and write, it was difficult to write down their history.. so the Schaman ( the man with most knowledge) told his people their history around 1/month... and to make sure that they wouldnt forget it, he made it rhyme, while people were playing drums in the background... so he "talked in rythm" - and thats the definition of rap
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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2002, 01:07:24 PM »
Even if that were true, which it's not, then black folks still run it so big deal.
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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2002, 01:26:50 PM »
Who gives a fuck whether a black guy or a white guy started it?  
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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2002, 03:10:23 PM »
Just 2 let u Know.....


Kool DJ Herc, the godfather of hip-hop, was born in Jamaica in 1955. He moved to the Bronx in 1967, at the age of twelve. With his unique playlist of R&B, soul, funk, and obscure disco, Herc quickly became the catalyst of the hip-hop way of life. The kids from the Bronx and Harlem loved his ghetto style, which gave birth to the concept of the B-Boy. The B-Boy -- or beat boy, break boy, Bronx boy -- loved the breaks of Kool Herc, and as a result soon created break dancing. These were the people of the hip-hop culture. While Pete DJ Jones was #1 for the black disco crowd in NYC, Herc and the B-Boys were the essence of the hip-hop movement, because of they lived the lifestyle. The way they danced, dressed, walked, and talked was unique, as opposed to most of the disco artists and fans of the time, who were not as in touch with the urban streets of America.



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By most accounts Herc was the first DJ to buy two copies of the same record for just a 15-second break (rhythmic instrumental segment) in the middle. By mixing back and forth between the two copies he was able to double, triple, or indefinitely extend the break. In so doing, Herc effectively deconstructed and reconstructed so-called found sound, using the turntable as a musical instrument.


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... the whole chemistry of that came from Jamaica ... I was born in Jamaica and I was listening to American music in Jamaica ... My favorite artist was James Brown. That's who inspired me ... When I came over here I just put it in the American style and a perspective for them to dance to it. In Jamaica all you needed was a drum and bass. So what I did here was go right to the 'yoke'. I cut off all anticipation and played the beats. I'd find out where the break in the record was at and prolong it and people would love it. So I was giving them their own taste and beat percussion-wise ... cause my music is all about heavy bass ... --Kool Herc


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Modern day rap music finds its immediate roots in the toasting and dub talk over elements of reggae music. In the early 70's, a Jamaican dj known as Kool Herc moved from Kingston to NY's West Bronx. Here, he attempted to incorporate his Jamaican style of dj which involved reciting improvised rhymes over the dub versions of his reggae records. Unfortunately, New Yorkers weren't into reggae at the time. Thus Kool Herc adapted his style by chanting over the instrumental or percussion sections of the day's popular songs. Because these breaks were relatively short, he learned to extend them indefinitely by using an audio mixer and two identical records in which he continuously replaced the desired segment.


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In those early days, young party goers initially recited popular phrases and used the slang of the day. For example, it was fashionable for dj to acknowledge people who were in attendance at a party. These early raps featured someone such as Herc shouting over the instrumental break; 'Yo this is Kool Herc in the joint-ski saying my mellow-ski Marky D is in the house'. This would usually evoke a response from the crowd, who began to call out their own names and slogans.

As this phenomenon evolved, the party shouts became more elaborate as dj in an effort to be different, began to incorporate little rhymes-'Davey D is in the house/An he'll turn it out without a doubt.' It wasn't long before people began drawing upon outdated dozens and school yard rhymes. Many would add a little twist and customize these rhymes to make them suitable for the party environment. At that time rap was not yet known as 'rap' but called 'emceeing'. With regards to Kool Herc, as he progressed, he eventually turned his attention to the complexities of djaying and let two friends Coke La Rock and Clark Kent (not Dana Dane's dj) handle the microphone duties. This was rap music first emcee team. They became known as Kool Herc and the Herculoids.


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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2002, 03:22:27 PM »
Hey, why are all u damn Black people mad at me? Get mad at VH1, cuz they said it...



They said the Hip Hop culture was started by Scratching which was started by a white man...Do U think I fuckin give a fuck? U fuckin Africans get too uptight about everything, it's pissing me off...
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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2002, 03:26:12 PM »
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Hey, why are all u damn Black people mad at me? Get mad at VH1, cuz they said it...



They said the Hip Hop culture was started by Scratching which was started by a white man...Do U think I fuckin give a fuck? U fuckin Africans get too uptight about everything, it's pissing me off...



damn
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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2002, 03:31:16 PM »
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Hey, why are all u damn Black people mad at me? Get mad at VH1, cuz they said it...



They said the Hip Hop culture was started by Scratching which was started by a white man...Do U think I fuckin give a fuck? U fuckin Africans get too uptight about everything, it's pissing me off...

agreed.  dont see me gettin pissed off cuz tiger woods controls golf,  a white mans sport if not a white mans world.  a white man invented basketball.  Now black men control,  dont see me or any other white guys bitching about it
 

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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2002, 03:34:49 PM »
I watched that show and do not recall a white man being mentioned other than the Beastie Boys, Rick Rubin and Eminem.
 

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Re: A WHITE guy started Hip Hop...
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2002, 03:42:29 PM »
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agreed.  dont see me gettin pissed off cuz tiger woods controls golf,  a white mans sport if not a white mans world.  a white man invented basketball.  Now black men control,  dont see me or any other white guys bitching about it




Damn right man...Race does not make a difference...If you're good at what you do than follow through with it...You black people need too stop trippin...


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I watched that show and do not recall a white man being mentioned other than the Beastie Boys, Rick Rubin and Eminem.


How the fuck have u watched that show when I dont even really remember what it's called...All I remember is that it was a show about Hip Hop Culture and it was on MTV or VH1...
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