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OK, I'm gonna catch a lot of shit but whatever. When i see acts like Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, etc... I cant help but think that hip hop is doomed before long. I know you're gonna wanna say, "no it's the shitty top 40 rappers that are destroying it", No. The thing about mainstream rap is that it is still a black mans game and it still contains the energy and rawness that made the genre so big in the first place. So many underground cats are sick of it so what do they do? make the polar opposite. Now this may attract a lot of white kids and shit who are tired of their SDE tape and want to be part of some intelligent movement, but what these "educated" albums are doing is just making it safe for white people to intervene and do whatever to the music in the name of "art". So many suburban kids have now found an outlet thru these self concious artisitic rappers because they can relate to it, so then they start their own projects, and soon there's a whole white rap scene. The problem with this is, since we live in a white world, its only a matter of time before this gets taken over as mainstream rap, and all the hardcore dudes we dont hear from again. The same thing happened with jazz, and its only a matter of time before it happens to hip hop.
I like backpack shit and enjoy bumpin Atmosphere. How are they killing hip-hop when they hardly get any exposure? lol Top 40 rappers are doing way more damage. Backpack rap just brings another outlet in the game. I know personally, I don't wanna hear about gats, gangbangin and other agressive shit 24/7, because that ain't me. Sometimes, I like to bump some hip hop that's more emotional and different. Why people hate on backpack rap so much is beyond me since it gets no attention by the mainstream.I welcome the alternative.....
So many suburban kids have now found an outlet thru these self concious artisitic rappers because they can relate to it, so then they start their own projects, and soon there's a whole white rap scene. The problem with this is, since we live in a white world, its only a matter of time before this gets taken over as mainstream rap, and all the hardcore dudes we dont hear from again. The same thing happened with jazz, and its only a matter of time before it happens to hip hop.
Like most already said; how can a genre of rap with such a small fanbase do anything? Most of the white back pack rappers are just pretentious whiners.
Quote from: J Bananas on September 28, 2005, 01:49:17 PM So many suburban kids have now found an outlet thru these self concious artisitic rappers because they can relate to it, so then they start their own projects, and soon there's a whole white rap scene. The problem with this is, since we live in a white world, its only a matter of time before this gets taken over as mainstream rap, and all the hardcore dudes we dont hear from again. The same thing happened with jazz, and its only a matter of time before it happens to hip hop.Like most already said; how can a genre of rap with such a small fanbase do anything? Most of the white back pack rappers are just pretentious whiners.I predict that in the next couple years a new rock band will emerge that speaks to the suburban white kids like Nirvana and Pearl Jam did and you'll see that take off (I don't mean it'll sound like Grunge). Rap will go back to the streets for the most part and the mainstream will change. Being in a band will always be the cool thing for white teens to do. They just forgot about that the last 5 years or so. Hip hop won't die, much like Heavy Netal never died, but it will not be nearly as prominant.I'm not sure where you get whites ruined jazz. I can barely think of 3 white jazz players, and when I think of Jazz I think Miles Davis. Unless you are reffering to the big band music, which isn't Jazz, it's pop/big band, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, and they didn't ruin anything. They just sang songs very well.You want to talk about whites taking over a music. Let's talk about Rock and Roll. It started as Rhythm and Blues in Memphis and with the Country influences of Memphis the two joined and developed the sound. A sound that didn't hit nation wide until Elvis, but what many still considered, rightfully so, a black music. Then the 60s hit, and Bob Dylan officially made rock and roll an art form. Something adopted and progressed by greats like The Beatles. Hard Rock came about in the late 60s with Zep and Sabbath, and Folk Rock continued to shine with CSNY and The Band. Greats like Bruce Springsteen helped the music mature with a sophistication that lacked many of the older records. Bob Seger, and a returning Bob Dylan also did this, as well as others. White people took Rock and Roll to extremely new heights lyrically and musically. The point is white's don't ruin everything like you seemed to claim. (that doen't mean I think they'll take hip hop to a new level. LKike I said above, I think a new style of band will take over the suburban white scene in the next couple years.)
Quote from: Shallow on September 29, 2005, 10:03:02 AMLike most already said; how can a genre of rap with such a small fanbase do anything? Most of the white back pack rappers are just pretentious whiners. Small? There's a HUGE market for Backpack rap. They're big on the tour tip, that's how they eat. You think 2Mex eats from his album sales? Hell no. He makes his money from shows. Small Fanbase is a HUGE understatement. LOL @ That.
One thing about Backpack rappers, they are never consistent. They down Mainstream rap a lot, but the moment they get a chance to blow they go for it.Xzibit did it. Ras Kass did it. Kweli did it. Common, Mos Def, etc. They all went the Mainstream route when it was possible.
I mean small comparatively. Poison (rock band from the late 80s) tours all the time, and they make a living off it, but Hair Metal is still a small market in today's music scene.You can laugh out loug all you want. It would explain why you aren't paying attention to the fact that back pack rapisn't changing the music scene anymore than Engelbert Humperdinck is, who makes a good living on the road, but compared to how much the Rolling Stones make, he has an extremely small audience.
Quote from: Shallow on September 29, 2005, 11:59:45 AMI mean small comparatively. Poison (rock band from the late 80s) tours all the time, and they make a living off it, but Hair Metal is still a small market in today's music scene.You can laugh out loug all you want. It would explain why you aren't paying attention to the fact that back pack rapisn't changing the music scene anymore than Engelbert Humperdinck is, who makes a good living on the road, but compared to how much the Rolling Stones make, he has an extremely small audience.Back Pack isn't changing the music scene? Are you serious? Dogg... Go to a BackPack show. You'll see a bunch of kids who look like they belong at a Misfits concert. Now, if that isn't changing the music scene, then what is? They bring in a complete different audience. Serious kid, don't try to tell me about BackPack rap. Just this past Saturday I had an In-Store at my store here with Rifleman and Pterradacto... The kids who came in for it were far from your typical Hip Hop fans. BackPack rap has a HUGE influence in the scene... LOL @ Not paying attention. Rastaman: Common went that route on Electric Circus and continued onto BE. Mos Def hit the mainstream level with "Oh No."