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Also, if research shows they're of Middle Eastern origin... that also doesn't necessarily mean they're descendants of those exiled... because then you would be making ANOTHER assumption... that no people in the Middle East converted.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on January 06, 2006, 01:42:14 AMAlso, if research shows they're of Middle Eastern origin... that also doesn't necessarily mean they're descendants of those exiled... because then you would be making ANOTHER assumption... that no people in the Middle East converted.So Middle Eastern origin doesn't make people entitled to live somewhere in the Middle East?- GOOD TO KNOW, this could have saved us a lot of time.
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.
Guilty untill proven innocent or innocent untill proven guilty.I guess now I know which one of these you favour^......lolWe're not talking about victims and suspects here... unless you believe that being Jewish is a flaw.I wasn't the one to question Jewish ethnic origin, you were the one who claimed Ashkenazi Jews were in no way semites. You made the ungrounded claim, so you have to prove it.Nope. I said that some Jews are descendants of converted people. I gave the Khazars as an example. There are also people in Yemen, Oman, etc. If you can't prove that most Jews are descendants of those exiled... then just admit it, and don't call it a fact, since it isn't one.. if it were, you'd be able to prove it.So far, the default option was reinforced by this specimen research, meaning your claim was refuted->Tested Ashkenazi Jews were all semites in one way or another.How many were tested? How many Ashkenazi Jews are there?Then look at the ratio, and realize that you're an idiot.P.S I'm sorry that you don't see the diff between origin and ethnic origin, might be my fault.I'm sorry that you don't know what the word fact means, but I don't blame you... you're a Zionist
So Middle Eastern origin doesn't make people entitled to live somewhere in the Middle East?- GOOD TO KNOW, this could have saved us a lot of time.
If they're converted.. then there goes your claim.
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on January 06, 2006, 02:17:05 AM If they're converted.. then there goes your claim."IF" is an assumption. But "if" we're assuming(As you have requested) that other semites converted to Judaism before the exile then they're still exiled Jews, according to you.You are the one talking about Palestinian Refugees' right of return, only because some of them may have inhabited a certain part of Israel years ago. You're selective in your principles when it comes to the destruction of a state, the existence of which, you loath. Their return would end Israel's existence as a Jewish-Democratic State. This is the intention of those who support this. How can you say you don't want Israel of the wor'd map? lol...You can't bend priniciples when it suits you, that's why they are called principles. Exiled Jews had nowhere to go, these Arab refugees had a number of Arab national states and they left because of the aggression of these states.
You make a claim and state it's a fact.I ask you to prove it.You can't.I win. You lose.
You said people of Middle Eastern origin should have the right to live in the Middle East...
Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on January 06, 2006, 02:55:21 AMYou said people of Middle Eastern origin should have the right to live in the Middle East...Yep, both Arabs and Jews(Or anyone else for the matter, I don't see why human beings shouldn't be able to live anywhere they want in the world. The only barrier is people who have other things in mind). One catch though, Arab regimes aren't really fond of this sort of globalization. And as you know they don't uphold human rights and democracy, so it's a problem. I would love to see a world with no borders where everyone would live in peace. We both know it's not the way it is right now.
You're selective in your principles
Arabs live in Israel. Jews are not allowed to live in Judea, Samaria and Gaza according to international law. Who's selective?
1.Palestinian refugees weren't exiled2.Return of refugees would contrast Jewish claim to the land.3.Israel does not prohibit Arab inhabitation as long as it doesn't contrast it's existence.4.International law prohibits Jewish inhabitance of Judea and Samaria while allowing Arab inhabitance of Israel, and Judea and Samaria. Hence, the international law is being selective as is the Palestinian Authority.
Yep, both Arabs and Jews(Or anyone else for the matter, I don't see why human beings shouldn't be able to live anywhere they want in the world.