Quik didn't even produce Love of my life

[GangstaBoogy]

Didn't eminem produce a large portion of "the eminem show" by himself? That's a good example of working alone paying off.

[Portugoal]

Didn't eminem produce a large portion of "the eminem show" by himself? That's a good example of working alone paying off.

The music suffered a lot from it though.

[D-e-f-]

people are still not getting how this producing vs composing relationship works?

PLEASE educate yourself....

it's getting old.

[Jimmy H.]

call producing whatever you want....but whenever rap fans talk about producers they mean the creative genius behind the instrumental. You can have your own definition and talk about as many details as you want but that's what it means to most people. Beats are more important in rap than other genres so maybe we need another word to describe the person who came up with the sound. Maybe from now on we should just refer to it as "the creative genius behind the sound"    Because when I talk about a producer that's what I mean. Any sap can throw their name on something.

First of all, no matter how big a popular misconception is, it's still a MISCONCEPTION. This is not "my" own definition of what a producer does, it's one supported by people who actually work on and produce music. The "sound" of a record isn't just a beat. When I listen to music, I very rarely only listen to an instrumental. Your statement that instrumentals are more important in rap than they are in other genres is one I don't agree with either. If all producers did was throw their names on things, every artist in the fucking country could produce their own albums. All they would need to do is find people who make beats, buy them, and add their vocals to them.

If people choose to believe the "creative genius behind this" talk, that's on them. If you wish to buy into a false and projected image of something so you can simplify a conversation, I can't stop you. However, I'm not gonna dumb myself down into agreeing with something that isn't true so a person with the wrong information can be comfortable in the conversation. Rap fans have a hard-on for "beats" so that's the part of the producer job that is sold to them. What exactly do you think producers do, outside of the rap genre, where instead of making beats, they have a band that creates instrumentals with… instruments? Do you honestly think he’s just a guy who listens to them play and slaps his name on the song?

Didn't eminem produce a large portion of "the eminem show" by himself? That's a good example of working alone paying off.

Except he didn't WORK ALONE. Once again, being the sole credited producer doesn't usually mean you sat in a room and made the entire record from scratch by yourself.