Canada Gets MTV Today (on basic cable)

[Suga Foot]

it just launched a few hours ago.  From what I read in the paper it looks pretty shitty. 

[Teddy Roosevelt]

MTV is shitty.

[africas seed]

it just launched a few hours ago. From what I read in the paper it looks pretty shitty.

lol yeah i read this in the province. it doesnt sound as if its going to be getting any good programs.

[Shallow]

The stupid CRTC isn't letting them show music, not that MTV does anyway, but to not be allowed to show music is just ridiculous. I've said it a thousand times. The CRTC is the worst thing going in Canadian entertainment. It's such a joke it's ridiculous. From the day it started it was a joke. There was this big Radio station in Windsor that played Motown and RnB music and had a huge following in Detroit but when the CRTC came into play they forced everyone with their Canadian content laws and a station that built it self on folk music had throw in a Canadian folk song every few songs just to stay on the air. It ended up plummetting anyway because it lost all it's listeners. Great way to make Canadian companies boom CRTC. If I ever become PM I'm shutting it down.

['DsR']

The stupid CRTC isn't letting them show music, not that MTV does anyway, but to not be allowed to show music is just ridiculous. I've said it a thousand times. The CRTC is the worst thing going in Canadian entertainment. It's such a joke it's ridiculous. From the day it started it was a joke. There was this big Radio station in Windsor that played Motown and RnB music and had a huge following in Detroit but when the CRTC came into play they forced everyone with their Canadian content laws and a station that built it self on folk music had throw in a Canadian folk song every few songs just to stay on the air. It ended up plummetting anyway because it lost all it's listeners. Great way to make Canadian companies boom CRTC. If I ever become PM I'm shutting it down.

i agree... its a total joke.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

The stupid CRTC isn't letting them show music, not that MTV does anyway, but to not be allowed to show music is just ridiculous. I've said it a thousand times. The CRTC is the worst thing going in Canadian entertainment. It's such a joke it's ridiculous. From the day it started it was a joke. There was this big Radio station in Windsor that played Motown and RnB music and had a huge following in Detroit but when the CRTC came into play they forced everyone with their Canadian content laws and a station that built it self on folk music had throw in a Canadian folk song every few songs just to stay on the air. It ended up plummetting anyway because it lost all it's listeners. Great way to make Canadian companies boom CRTC. If I ever become PM I'm shutting it down.

CRTC is crazy. They feel so alieanated whenever American culture tries to come to Canada. But that's Canada for you, which I'm not going to get into right now.

[Suga Foot]

I think the 33% rule is good for radio.  Otherwise nobody would listen to Canadian music.

Canadian TV on the other hand is just garbage.

[Lincoln]

Let me agree, fuck the CRTC. If people don't want to listen to Canadian music then they won't, and the market will control things rather than forcing it down our throats.

Since there's no music on this MTV what will be on it?

[Teddy Roosevelt]

I think the 33% rule is good for radio.  Otherwise nobody would listen to Canadian music.

Canadian TV on the other hand is just garbage.

Can you explain to me the 33% thing?

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Since there's no music on this MTV what will be on it?

Most the shit on MTV isn't music anyways.

[Suga Foot]

I think the 33% rule is good for radio.  Otherwise nobody would listen to Canadian music.

Canadian TV on the other hand is just garbage.

Can you explain to me the 33% thing?

my bad it's 35%

Commercial radio stations must ensure that 35% of the musical selections they air between 6AM and 6PM, Monday through Friday, are Canadian.

so basically 1 out of every 3 songs has to be performed, produced, or written by a canadian. 

Why is it important?

    * Culturally, Canadian programs and music give voice to Canadians, to their talent and their shared experiences.
    * Economically, it means jobs for thousands of Canadians – from creation to production and distribution on the airwaves.

[Shallow]

Adon;

How about instead of setting up this board to make sure Canadian music gets played they use that money to create platforms and opportunities for Canadian music and television to strive. Then we wouldn't need a law to keep these things on the air, because the quality would be good enough that Canadians would want to hear and watch it. Putting music back in the school system in a major way would be a start. Hiring professional industry types and real musicians and TV writers/directors to come to schools. Set up a real Canadian concert venues that can be broadcasted on a real Canadian music channel and focus on talent rather than the second rate artists signed by the labels with power. And for God sakes put some money into Canadian TV production because every time I see a Canadian TV show it looks like it was made in a high school. I realize they want it to look distinct from American TV but when distinct means it looks like it's shot with a camcorder and edited on a Mac that is't a good thing. THere is so much to this country and the industry here is so shit that it'll never get properly exposed, unless some Canadian makes it huge in Hollywood as a director and producer and makes it a point focus on Canadian stuff as well as hte American stuff. Most Canadians that make it big aren't even known as Canadians. You tell the average American that Jim Carrey, Pam Anderson, or billionair director/producer Ivan Reitman are Canadian and they'll say something like "really?".

The stupid CRTC isn't letting them show music, not that MTV does anyway, but to not be allowed to show music is just ridiculous. I've said it a thousand times. The CRTC is the worst thing going in Canadian entertainment. It's such a joke it's ridiculous. From the day it started it was a joke. There was this big Radio station in Windsor that played Motown and RnB music and had a huge following in Detroit but when the CRTC came into play they forced everyone with their Canadian content laws and a station that built it self on folk music had throw in a Canadian folk song every few songs just to stay on the air. It ended up plummetting anyway because it lost all it's listeners. Great way to make Canadian companies boom CRTC. If I ever become PM I'm shutting it down.

CRTC is crazy. They feel so alieanated whenever American culture tries to come to Canada. But that's Canada for you, which I'm not going to get into right now.

Why alienated?


And it is a law that stations have to have about 35% of all you show on a Canadian Radio or TV Network to be Canadian content. Funny little tidbit. The CRTC called Bryan Adams not Canadian enough because his music was often co-written with Mutt Lange. So even though he was a Canadian who lived in Canada and paid Canadian taxes they didn't count him.


What they also do is force Canadian feeds on US networks if the show is also played on a Canadian Network. So instead of encouraging City TV and CTV to creat quality programming they just have it so they get the ad revenue of American shows. It's bad for the the idea of a free market and goes against capitolism. It's also a big blow to the self esteem of the industry. It says basically; We suck so just make sure we can make money of American entertainment. Instead of making great programming and music and try and sell it to the American market we just borrow there stuff and even go so far as reject those Canadians that do make it in the sates instead of embrace them properly. Shit I'd go so far as to let celebrities like Carrey and Ivan Reitman live tax free with huge benefits if they help the Canadian industry. We'd make more money in the long run.

[Shallow]

Let me agree, fuck the CRTC. If people don't want to listen to Canadian music then they won't, and the market will control things rather than forcing it down our throats.

Since there's no music on this MTV what will be on it?

Right now it's licensed as a talk show network so the majority of the programming will be talk related. It's funny to even think about that. They are trying to get a new license, but it doesn't matter since most of the MTV stuff isn't music anyway.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

What they also do is force Canadian feeds on US networks if the show is also played on a Canadian Network. So instead of encouraging City TV and CTV to creat quality programming they just have it so they get the ad revenue of American shows. It's bad for the the idea of a free market and goes against capitolism. It's also a big blow to the self esteem of the industry. It says basically; We suck so just make sure we can make money of American entertainment. Instead of making great programming and music and try and sell it to the American market we just borrow there stuff and even go so far as reject those Canadians that do make it in the sates instead of embrace them properly. Shit I'd go so far as to let celebrities like Carrey and Ivan Reitman live tax free with huge benefits if they help the Canadian industry. We'd make more money in the long run.

Thanks for explaing the radio thing. I know all about the tv feeds, cause when I lived in Canada 50% of my life was TV. I never listened to the radio there, (there was no hip hop played on any of the stations) and I only knew a little about from grade 9 history.

O and Canada is not a capatlistic country. I guess offically it is, but look at all the shit the government regulates, compared to America is pratically is a socialist counrty. And I agree with you about creating platforms and opportunities for Canadian music and television to strive. Or else what's the point? You're just shoving Canadian culture down people's throat.

[Shallow]

What they also do is force Canadian feeds on US networks if the show is also played on a Canadian Network. So instead of encouraging City TV and CTV to creat quality programming they just have it so they get the ad revenue of American shows. It's bad for the the idea of a free market and goes against capitolism. It's also a big blow to the self esteem of the industry. It says basically; We suck so just make sure we can make money of American entertainment. Instead of making great programming and music and try and sell it to the American market we just borrow there stuff and even go so far as reject those Canadians that do make it in the sates instead of embrace them properly. Shit I'd go so far as to let celebrities like Carrey and Ivan Reitman live tax free with huge benefits if they help the Canadian industry. We'd make more money in the long run.

Thanks for explaing the radio thing. I know all about the tv feeds, cause when I lived in Canada 50% of my life was TV. I never listened to the radio there, (there was no hip hop played on any of the stations) and I only knew a little about from grade 9 history.

O and Canada is not a capatlistic country. I guess offically it is, but look at all the shit the government regulates, compared to America is pratically is a socialist counrty. And I agree with you about creating platforms and opportunities for Canadian music and television to strive. Or else what's the point? You're just shoving Canadian culture down people's throat.

Where and how long did you live in Canada? In Scarborough (East Toronto) I don't think there was ever anything in te states that wasn't here. I didn't listen to the radio and we didn't have a hip hop station but bootleg tapes and mixtapes were always running rampant where I was.