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i believe white fans killed it mainly majority of time they don't understand shit. They think money and looking good is hip hop.
Quote from: pc8381 on June 22, 2006, 12:05:10 PMi believe white fans killed it mainly majority of time they don't understand shit. They think money and looking good is hip hop.Of course. Always blame white people with anythingwrong with hip hop.
And that's what it comes down to with the West, always. You simply can't get away with changing styles in the West without getting hatedonfor it. L.A. niggas are the most closed-minded and conservative in all of hip-hop - they want the same shit over and over.The south's shit sound the same too.
Mobb Music which is basically a slightly modified derivative of G-Funk
Quote from: pc8381 on June 22, 2006, 12:05:10 PMi believe white fans killed it mainly majority of time they don't understand shit. They think money and looking good is hip hop.if it wasn't for white people, 99% of rappers would be dead broke and wouldn't be able to put out shit so shut ya yapper
Mobb music isn't really a spinoff of G-Funk. If anything, Mobb Music has actually been around longer than G-Funk. You can trace Mobb Music back to Too Short "Freaky Tales" and E-40 "Mr. Flamboyant", both of which were out a couple of years before NWA's second album and The Chronic. It was after 40 went major that Mobb Music became more recognized, but it's been around since Too Short's early days.
if it wasn't for white people, 99% of rappers would be dead broke and wouldn't be able to put out shit so shut ya yapper
nelly killed it.
The problem with trying to blame any specific artist, record label, coast or whatever is that it's simply not possible. There are many, MANY artists who have been responsible for putting hip-hop in the state it's in, from all areas of the U.S. from the East to the West to the MidWest to the Dirty South. Even artists who created great albums that are classics can be blamed for this decline because they influenced other, lesser artists who exploited what they did and cheapened the genre. Don't believe me? Consider this:-Public Enemy's "It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back" proved that the best-selling type of hip-hop was the type that generated a backlash from cultural conservatives - hence proving that controversy sells.-N.W.A. exploited the "controversy sells" rule on "Straight Outta Compton" opened the door for MCs throughout hip-hop to use profanity (including the word "nigga") and talk about violence, sex, and drugs on record and get away with it. Ice-T, 2 Live Crew, and the Geto Boys did the same thing, albeit to a lesser extent.-Dre's "The Chronic" was responsible for making all of what N.W.A. pioneered more accessible to the mainstream, hence making more rappers want to become "gangsta" rappers to get in where the dollars was at, and thus allowing negativity to dominate hip-hop. Albums like Snoop's "Doggystyle" also helped spread the G-Funk style of "The Chronic", which was a commercialized, party-oriented sub-genre of gangsta rap that removed all of the political sentiments of cats like Ice Cube.-Albums like Biggie's "Ready To Die", Nas' "Illmatic", Mobb Deep's "The Infamous", and the Wu's "Enter The 36 Chambers" made gangsta rap dominant on the East Coast as well as the West, dethroning the last of the Native Tongues/jazz-rappers like A Tribe Called Quest and the political rappers like Public Enemy and X-Clan. The East Coast had originally been resistant to the gangsta movement, but now it had succumbed to it as well.-Shit, you could even argue that Raekwon's "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx" began the obsession of hip-hop with capitalist tendencies and excessive materialism of the "bling bling" variety. It was the first album in which the whole image of the mafioso-type gangsta rapper was practiced - you know, the kinda flossin' nigga who sips Cristal, drives a Benz, and lives like Donald Trump or Bill Gates. After this album came out, many other East Coast rappers (like Biggie, Nas, and Mobb Deep) transitioned to the mafioso-type image, which Puffy, Mase, and Jay-Z exploited better than anyone else.So you see, trying to point fingers never works. I mean, think about all the rappers you hate today (50 Cent, Ja Rule, Young Jeezy, whoever) and ask yourself, "Who were these cats' influences?" We all know Ja Rule idolizes 2Pac like a God. 50 has said that B.I.G., Nas, Jay-Z, Big L, and especially Mobb Deep (who he's now signed) were his biggest inspirations. And I'm pretty sure I've heard Jeezy say he listened to Geto Boys, UGK, and 8Ball & MJG when he was growing up. So what does that show? Quite simply, that these other cats whom it's hearsay to talk about in a negative connotation played their part by inspiring future generations of artists that we believe suck.Quote from: Addicted To Beef on June 20, 2006, 11:07:31 AMhip hop was good in the 80s & 90s. it wasn't untill the 00's when the south started coming up that hip hop died. they destroyed and its been garbage since. Nope...not even close, son.
hip hop was good in the 80s & 90s. it wasn't untill the 00's when the south started coming up that hip hop died. they destroyed and its been garbage since.
Quote from: King Brant on June 20, 2006, 11:32:39 AMnelly killed it. Thats crazy that u said that! right now i am listening to "OVER HERE" by Krs One where he disses Nelly. I just read this at the same time i am listening to this song! What a cawinkydink.