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the bar for them is just higher.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 19, 2010, 04:53:24 PMQuote from: NIKCC on July 19, 2010, 02:59:34 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 19, 2010, 11:04:02 AMYeah, put MJ on the Cavs, let him lose forever & he woulda bounced too.This guy is steady "sucking" LeBron lately, unless you guys just keep posting old things. But it seems like he's going out of his way to say LeBron is wack.Obviously jealous of the pre-draft comparisions.What are you talking about, moron? Your dumbness is getting too exaggerated, man, seriously. LeBron is in the exact same situation Jordan was with the Bulls...Jordan didn't win in his first 7 seasons, and was bounced in back-to-back years by Detroit. By that point, people questioned whether he could even lead a team to a title....do you think Jordan bitched out and bolted to another superstar's team? Do you think a player of Jordan's competitive nature would even have it in him to make such a bitch move? Come on, cham...your support of LeBron is fine and all, but you're going way past support with this dumbness.You have selective hearing; your opinion is more irrelevant than Jordan's biased one lol.The fact that you think Jordan is giving his opinion just to discredit LeBron just goes to show what a delusional moron you are. Anyone who doesn't think you're a complete retard must share the same delusion as you. It wasn't just my opinion showing how stupid you are...it was also the FACT that Jordan was in the same exact position as Lebron, despite your ridiculous claim of "lets see how Jordan would react if he were placed on a team where he got nowhere for 7 years" LOL
Quote from: NIKCC on July 19, 2010, 02:59:34 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 19, 2010, 11:04:02 AMYeah, put MJ on the Cavs, let him lose forever & he woulda bounced too.This guy is steady "sucking" LeBron lately, unless you guys just keep posting old things. But it seems like he's going out of his way to say LeBron is wack.Obviously jealous of the pre-draft comparisions.What are you talking about, moron? Your dumbness is getting too exaggerated, man, seriously. LeBron is in the exact same situation Jordan was with the Bulls...Jordan didn't win in his first 7 seasons, and was bounced in back-to-back years by Detroit. By that point, people questioned whether he could even lead a team to a title....do you think Jordan bitched out and bolted to another superstar's team? Do you think a player of Jordan's competitive nature would even have it in him to make such a bitch move? Come on, cham...your support of LeBron is fine and all, but you're going way past support with this dumbness.You have selective hearing; your opinion is more irrelevant than Jordan's biased one lol.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on July 19, 2010, 11:04:02 AMYeah, put MJ on the Cavs, let him lose forever & he woulda bounced too.This guy is steady "sucking" LeBron lately, unless you guys just keep posting old things. But it seems like he's going out of his way to say LeBron is wack.Obviously jealous of the pre-draft comparisions.What are you talking about, moron? Your dumbness is getting too exaggerated, man, seriously. LeBron is in the exact same situation Jordan was with the Bulls...Jordan didn't win in his first 7 seasons, and was bounced in back-to-back years by Detroit. By that point, people questioned whether he could even lead a team to a title....do you think Jordan bitched out and bolted to another superstar's team? Do you think a player of Jordan's competitive nature would even have it in him to make such a bitch move? Come on, cham...your support of LeBron is fine and all, but you're going way past support with this dumbness.
Yeah, put MJ on the Cavs, let him lose forever & he woulda bounced too.This guy is steady "sucking" LeBron lately, unless you guys just keep posting old things. But it seems like he's going out of his way to say LeBron is wack.Obviously jealous of the pre-draft comparisions.
so if Lebron has 3 or more Finals MVP trophies by 2015, will he have a worse "legacy" than if he'd gotten his ass kicked by the Celtics or Magic every year? Be serious, please. There was no shot of winning an NBA title when Varejao is the 3rd best player. It's incredible how so many people ignore the whackness of the Cavs. They are a 35-win team now at best. The Jordan Bulls went to the 2nd round without him. How is that comparable?
Quote from: 7even on July 21, 2010, 02:02:00 PMso if Lebron has 3 or more Finals MVP trophies by 2015, will he have a worse "legacy" than if he'd gotten his ass kicked by the Celtics or Magic every year? Be serious, please. There was no shot of winning an NBA title when Varejao is the 3rd best player. It's incredible how so many people ignore the whackness of the Cavs. They are a 35-win team now at best. The Jordan Bulls went to the 2nd round without him. How is that comparable? after his constant struggles in the first half of his career.
Quote from: NIKCC on July 21, 2010, 03:35:15 PMQuote from: 7even on July 21, 2010, 02:02:00 PMso if Lebron has 3 or more Finals MVP trophies by 2015, will he have a worse "legacy" than if he'd gotten his ass kicked by the Celtics or Magic every year? Be serious, please. There was no shot of winning an NBA title when Varejao is the 3rd best player. It's incredible how so many people ignore the whackness of the Cavs. They are a 35-win team now at best. The Jordan Bulls went to the 2nd round without him. How is that comparable? after his constant struggles in the first half of his career.lol You had Kobe on the brain didnt you?
Quote from: NIKCC on July 21, 2010, 02:27:26 AMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 19, 2010, 04:53:24 PMQuote from: NIKCC on July 19, 2010, 02:59:34 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on July 19, 2010, 11:04:02 AMYeah, put MJ on the Cavs, let him lose forever & he woulda bounced too.This guy is steady "sucking" LeBron lately, unless you guys just keep posting old things. But it seems like he's going out of his way to say LeBron is wack.Obviously jealous of the pre-draft comparisions.What are you talking about, moron? Your dumbness is getting too exaggerated, man, seriously. LeBron is in the exact same situation Jordan was with the Bulls...Jordan didn't win in his first 7 seasons, and was bounced in back-to-back years by Detroit. By that point, people questioned whether he could even lead a team to a title....do you think Jordan bitched out and bolted to another superstar's team? Do you think a player of Jordan's competitive nature would even have it in him to make such a bitch move? Come on, cham...your support of LeBron is fine and all, but you're going way past support with this dumbness.You have selective hearing; your opinion is more irrelevant than Jordan's biased one lol.The fact that you think Jordan is giving his opinion just to discredit LeBron just goes to show what a delusional moron you are. Anyone who doesn't think you're a complete retard must share the same delusion as you. It wasn't just my opinion showing how stupid you are...it was also the FACT that Jordan was in the same exact position as Lebron, despite your ridiculous claim of "lets see how Jordan would react if he were placed on a team where he got nowhere for 7 years" LOLLike 7even said, the Bulls won a playoff series when Jordan left; the Cavs won't win 25 games. Even that would surprise me. The Nets last year had a better look on paper than the Cavs do this year lol.Speaking of delusional, if you disagree with that, you're the exact definition of delusional lmfao.
I know LeBron was talking out of pure hype when he said this, but he said he plans on winning seven to eight rings; HOW WOULD THAT NOT put him in the top five? Don't give me that "he needed help" because Kobe needed help, having Shaq was as good as what LeBron has now, you claim the Lakers are better, so Kobe's current staff is better than what LeBron has now.Shiiiit, Kareem & Magic are in your top 5 (basically everyones) & they PLAYED TOGETHER.Who cares how they come together? They played together & dominated.Even Jordan had Pippen & Rodman.So basically, there is no argument for LeBron not being considered Top 5, if he wins "seven or eight", ESSPECAILLY if they're in a row.
Quote from: 7even on July 21, 2010, 02:02:00 PMso if Lebron has 3 or more Finals MVP trophies by 2015, will he have a worse "legacy" than if he'd gotten his ass kicked by the Celtics or Magic every year? Be serious, please. There was no shot of winning an NBA title when Varejao is the 3rd best player. It's incredible how so many people ignore the whackness of the Cavs. They are a 35-win team now at best. The Jordan Bulls went to the 2nd round without him. How is that comparable? No...but his legacy wouldn't be as celebrated as if he woulda brought titles to Cleveland with a team built around HIM. The Bulls of the 80s woulda never made the playoffs without Jordan...Jordan didn't run away from the pressure and he didn't choose to leave Chicago after his constant struggles in the first half of his career.
Jordan had Pippen, Rodman and Phil Jackson in Chicago.Magic had Kareem, Worthy and Pat Riley in LA.LeBron had Mo Williams, Varejao and Mike Brown in Cleveland.How the blatant difference eludes everybody is beyond me.
Quote from: NIKCC on July 21, 2010, 03:35:15 PMQuote from: 7even on July 21, 2010, 02:02:00 PMso if Lebron has 3 or more Finals MVP trophies by 2015, will he have a worse "legacy" than if he'd gotten his ass kicked by the Celtics or Magic every year? Be serious, please. There was no shot of winning an NBA title when Varejao is the 3rd best player. It's incredible how so many people ignore the whackness of the Cavs. They are a 35-win team now at best. The Jordan Bulls went to the 2nd round without him. How is that comparable? No...but his legacy wouldn't be as celebrated as if he woulda brought titles to Cleveland with a team built around HIM. The Bulls of the 80s woulda never made the playoffs without Jordan...Jordan didn't run away from the pressure and he didn't choose to leave Chicago after his constant struggles in the first half of his career.He also never had a team mate fuck his mother.