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can he?

no doubt!
33 (55%)
he can match it at most
13 (21.7%)
he'll come close
5 (8.3%)
detox will fail
6 (10%)
nigga fell off! scott storch>dre
3 (5%)

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LyRiCaL_G

can dre top 2001
« on: February 08, 2006, 02:05:44 PM »
yo so i was checkin 2001 today and i realised that damn, he gon have to pull something special out to top this, i aint even gonna compare to chronic! but for real, joints he makes today are sick like how we do, in da club, start from scratch, oh an so on.......but damn, the funk on 2001 was crazy! he had mad shit going on in his beat and it still sounded clean but you could also smoke 2, he style has changed crazy since then! compare start from scratch to forgot about dre, next episode to how we do and so on, his new joints are sick, but i mean his even gon nhave to take them up 2 levels just to top 2001! i bet the nigga get scared everytime someone mentions detox to him!
 

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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2006, 02:11:25 PM »
You shouldn't compare songs he produced for other people last year to his own shit 7 years ago. I know that's the only way we can measure his change/talent since he never releases shit, but it's not really accurate. But of course he can do better then 2001. Is he going to? That remains to be seen.
 

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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2006, 02:14:09 PM »
yeah dre to slow with beats, i hope this means his in the studio just doing detox constantly......what was the last dre beats that we heard apart from grodt ost cuz they originally meant for massacre
 

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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2006, 02:20:14 PM »
all i know is that a dre cd is a dre cd and we going to get a good cd
 

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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2006, 02:25:27 PM »
theres no doubt it my mind that "Detox" will be better than "2001"
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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2006, 02:32:37 PM »
last dre beats i heard were not very tight so i dont know, hip hop ain't good as it used to be back in 1999 so i think he wont be able tu pull up something that good. plus he is working with kanye west and just blaze scott storch who don'T make very good beats in my opinion. It will sound like the documentary probably. Better than other shit we can hear in 2006 but not as good as 1999 shit. A lot of producers like rza primo and dj quik are not as good as they used to be  :(
 

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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2006, 02:39:18 PM »
wheres the:

"dr dre is the best producer ever and i dont doubt him and i shouldn't even be looking at this thread but i am so i chose this one"

option?
 

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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2006, 02:39:37 PM »
theres no doubt it my mind that "Detox" will be better than "2001"
 

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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2006, 02:43:02 PM »
whether he can or whether he will are 2 very different things, but i voted "no doubt" - meaning yes he can top it.

my only concern is that he will never try because of fear that people will say he "fell off" because it won't match his previous 2 releases.

and for that reason he may just be content with his 2 major releases and their success.
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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2006, 02:46:52 PM »
There's no doubt whether or not he can - of course he can. The question is will he succeed doing it.
 

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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2006, 03:22:14 PM »
The beats I'm not too worried about.  He will keep his best beats for himself and if he wants to come out with a new sound he's not going to let that leak so Detox will be fresh and new.  My main concern right now is the vibe/direction.  It will be solid but I don't know if it'll have that same impact as the Chronic and 2001.
 

E. J. Rizo

Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2006, 03:42:50 PM »
The beats I'm not too worried about.  He will keep his best beats for himself and if he wants to come out with a new sound he's not going to let that leak so Detox will be fresh and new.  My main concern right now is the vibe/direction.  It will be solid but I don't know if it'll have that same impact as the Chronic and 2001.
well i think its just because everyone knows and expects this shit to be Banging.... i mean it had been a while since he dropped an album and everyone was claiming he fell off and so forth so when he came out he came out with a bang i dont think very many people were expecting it. so thats why it was so good in a sense... but i expect detox to be on the same point as 2001 if not better but it just might not have the same hype... because everyone is expecting a banging album
 

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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2006, 08:07:17 PM »
Yeah....I mean, if he puts the effort into it, I am sure he can match it and maybe top it, even though it's going to have a completely different sound and many people who favor the 2001 sound won't like it as much.

But if you look at the history, you can at least predict the sound of this album.

Between NWA and Chronic - He moved from just having hella random samples together with heavy drums, to having songs with funk samples like on "Always into sumthin" and he got more into the funk sound, and that's what he ended up usin for Chronic and Doggystyle.

Between Chronic and 2001 - He evolved from havin the strong funk sound he had on Chronic, to havin songs that sounded similar but a bit diff like on "Can't C me" and "California love" to havin darker sounds that still had similar instruments but a different vibe. He started usin more east coast elements which made the beats darker, but it still had that west coast base to it as far as the basslines and high pitched synths. Listenin to beats on The Firm and "Been there done that" let it be known that his sound was gettin darker. On 2001, he still had a funk base to many of his songs, but it was definitely a lot darker.

Between 2001 and now - His sound has become more and more dark, and even though he has some more uptempo, "happier" beats like "How we do", most of his beats sound darker than before, never use high pitched synths, and barely use basslines anymore. You could tell he was changin it up around "Family affair" and just comparin "The Watcher 2" to the original showed the difference in his sound...took the high pitched synths out to replace em with symphonic strings and that "James Bond" guitar, and took the bassline out to where the bass just moved around and kinda filled the beat in versus being the base of the song. In da club was definitely a darker beat, where there was a bassline but it was more to fill in the beat and help the melody. His tracks like "Higher" "Outta control" "Start from scratch" just have a much more cinematic feel than his older beats, and the basslines are just there to support the beat.

So seein that....I will bet that there will be too many songs, if any, where the bassline is the main part of the beat, and most of it will have a cinematic feel to it, even the club tracks. Most people on the east coast will love this style, but many people on the west will feel that it doesn't have that "west coast sound" to it, which may be good for the future because our sound will probably start to evolve more depending on this album. You know Dre albums always set the tone for what west coast producers are doing.

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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2006, 08:28:10 PM »
Mannn I dont even want Detox to come out cuz Im just now figuring out how to make Dre type beats now, When this shit drops imma have to start alllll over and step my game up AGAIN  :-\
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Re: can dre top 2001
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2006, 05:52:02 AM »
voted he can match it at most.

theres no way it will be topped imo. The guest spots will be nowhere near wot 2001 offered, would be sick if we got beats that even come close to the Still D.R.Es, Xxplosives, etc. Mel-Man wont be working on it? or will he I dont know.  But I just dont c Detox coming close to 2001, but then again if its another 5/5 flawless classick it wouldnt suprise me neitha