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happy easter
Easter is the most widely celebrated, oldest and most important event in Christian history. In most every Christian country, Easter is more important than Christmas. This is the day Yeshua Ben Yosef resurrected, and was witnessed by his disiples and then other people. Of course they didn't celebrat it in the Bible, the Bible, every Christian was still Jewish, "Jesus" was a rabbi, and the Christian Church was still finding its self. Now, 2000 years later, of course we have traditional celebrations, the church has evolved for better or for worst, English speaking people know Yeshua Ben Yosef as Jesus Christ (which is Greek), and instead of being dark Middle Eastern man with feet of bronze and hair of wool, his a white guy who could be mistaken for French. But it does not change the message, it does not change the spirital meaning of who he is, and what happened 2000 years ago, and it does not change the fact that he is the son of God to many people, including myself. Easter is not a hoex, it's a celebration for one of the greatest events, if not the greatest event in Christian history. Most of the New Testiment is dedicated to this day, this is the day that brought hope to the people of that era, because it proved to them that the son of God walked with them, and it proved to many that God does indeed exist.Now from the true meaning of Easter, to the American meaning of Easter... Happy Easter ya'all
Why does it bother you if Christians celebrate Easter? I'm agnostic but it doesn't bother me in the least bit if people celebrate easter, hanukkah (i'm sure i butchered the spelling), ramadan, whatever. This day doesn't hold significance to me at all, but it does to others. So on a day that some people do find happiness, why does that bother you?
Quote from: Jrome The Marauder on April 16, 2006, 06:05:03 PMWhy does it bother you if Christians celebrate Easter? I'm agnostic but it doesn't bother me in the least bit if people celebrate easter, hanukkah (i'm sure i butchered the spelling), ramadan, whatever. This day doesn't hold significance to me at all, but it does to others. So on a day that some people do find happiness, why does that bother you?most christian holidays do have pagan origins, so asking people their opinions on these holidays isn't necessarily an intolerant question. the catholic church hijacked and redefined many pagan holidays as a way of attracting christian converts.there are several christian sects that do not support these holidays. jehovah's witnesses do not celebrate easter. seventh day adventists (i attended this church as a youth) acknowledge the pagan origins, but see no real harm in celebrating christmas or easter...etc. even if it is a pagan holiday that has adapted pagan symbolism; it's not like they start worshipping the pagan gods.i don't see the harm in questioning the holiday, or asking people why they celebrate it. down in mexico they took the week off and were going to church everyday. that can't be a bad thing.why isn't the effect to which the catholic church shaped the current direction of christianity, and the motivation behind those actions a valid question? the catholic influence represents an interesing shift in focus, as many of the early christians largely focused on understanding and following christ's teachings; yet the catholic church shifted that focus to a celebration of christ, and to a lesser extent mary. the easter holiday is a direct reflection of this.i don't see this as an issue of intolerance.
You were raised an adventist? When did you convert and why? (just wondering)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^So when did all this start happening for you? How old were you and how were you introduced to Islam and the Quran?
P.S. I never felt the Gospel was a way to stay oppressed it just states you shouldn't commit evil to fight evil, but that no one can really be perfect so just make sure you are sorry when you do wrong and try harder to keep from doing it the next time.
Quote from: Shallow on April 17, 2006, 07:53:24 AM^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^So when did all this start happening for you? How old were you and how were you introduced to Islam and the Quran?infinite sent me a copy of the qu'ran in january, and i began studying it.QuoteP.S. I never felt the Gospel was a way to stay oppressed it just states you shouldn't commit evil to fight evil, but that no one can really be perfect so just make sure you are sorry when you do wrong and try harder to keep from doing it the next time.i agree that there are other ways to interpret the gospel; but the gospel has been used as a tool of oppression; and the emphasis on the afterlife has been used as a mechanism to subjugate conquered peoples.i was in monterrey mexico last week (business \w a client based in mexico), i visited a couple local museums and was able to see some of the exhibits on the aztecs and other native cultures. it's one things to hear the story of how religion was theoretically used to subjugate peoples; it's extremely powerful to be able to see the actual tools that were used. they artifacts of crosses with an image representing the face of jesus blended along with other symbols of the native religions. indicating that "our god has dominated your gods"; and also tricking people to embrace and worship jesus along with the native customs. they also had artifacts of mary with the baby jesus and the back drop of native symbols and images. the usurping of the symbols of those native religions very closely parallels the catholic churches policy of adopting pagan holidays and reinterpretting them within christianity.
Quote from: nibs on April 17, 2006, 08:21:58 AMQuote from: Shallow on April 17, 2006, 07:53:24 AM^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^So when did all this start happening for you? How old were you and how were you introduced to Islam and the Quran?infinite sent me a copy of the qu'ran in january, and i began studying it.QuoteP.S. I never felt the Gospel was a way to stay oppressed it just states you shouldn't commit evil to fight evil, but that no one can really be perfect so just make sure you are sorry when you do wrong and try harder to keep from doing it the next time.i agree that there are other ways to interpret the gospel; but the gospel has been used as a tool of oppression; and the emphasis on the afterlife has been used as a mechanism to subjugate conquered peoples.i was in monterrey mexico last week (business \w a client based in mexico), i visited a couple local museums and was able to see some of the exhibits on the aztecs and other native cultures. it's one things to hear the story of how religion was theoretically used to subjugate peoples; it's extremely powerful to be able to see the actual tools that were used. they artifacts of crosses with an image representing the face of jesus blended along with other symbols of the native religions. indicating that "our god has dominated your gods"; and also tricking people to embrace and worship jesus along with the native customs. they also had artifacts of mary with the baby jesus and the back drop of native symbols and images. the usurping of the symbols of those native religions very closely parallels the catholic churches policy of adopting pagan holidays and reinterpretting them within christianity.So you've only been Muslim since January?And who cares what people use in the name of a religion and what that has to do with a religion. The Turks used Islam to take over and oppress my ancestors for 400 years, and then used it kill 1.5 million Armenians in a holocaust, and whatever Greek they found, then sent all the Greeks in Turkey into Greece in hopes of there being more people than resources to take care of them. I never held Islam at fault because some jackass in Turkey enslaved my great great great great Grandfather and told him "you know if you were Muslim we couldn't enslave you", a nice little trick I'm sure that got many slaves to convert just to get out of bondage. For the record I'm Orthodox Christian and the Cathloic Churches decision don't have much affect on me or how I believe. Even the Easter Eggs stem from a story that Mary Magdelene turned white eggs into red eggs infront of Caesar. I can read up on how Islam was created from the paganism in the area. The moon God Al ilah of the old Pagan arabs seems to some little connections to to aspects of Islamic beliefs.
So you've only been Muslim since January?
And who cares what people use in the name of a religion and what that has to do with a religion.