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Quote from: Trauma-san on January 22, 2008, 04:34:27 PMI think Michaels' singing abilities are very underrated. When people talk about him, they talk about his dancing, his whole persona, but the fact is the guy is an incredible singer. To say he's less than average or that a band leader could smoke him is rediculous. Michael has got to have one of the greatest voices of all time, his versatility is so insane that there have only been 3 or 4 cover songs recorded by major artists of his work, even though he's had hit after hit, nobody else sings them live or re-records them? The reason is most of his stuff the average singer cannot attempt to cover. He can sing any genre from R&B to Gospel to Rock, to Heavy Metal to Pop to even songs that have country influences. Look how easily he switches between pop, hiphop, and heavy metal in shit like "black or white". If you want to talk shit about him, you can't honestly with an open mind say the man can't sing. He can sing smooth, rough, falsetto, high, low, the man can be Gerald Levert, Usher, Stephen Tyler, and Luther Vandross on the same song. He's simply an incredible performer on every measurable level.Now to compare him vocally to Elvis is rediculous. Elvis I would say is the greatest pop singer of all time. He's another guy with an incredible versatility, only his upper limits included operatic performances, he was simply on another planet. He can sing just fine. When I sad Band leader I meant lead singers to all those groups lie the Temptations in Detroit that never got deals. MoTown the city had incredible talent no one ever heard. The problem is they all sounded like David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks. I mean exactly like they sound. And as much as I like MJ's voice I'll never say it's as good as Ruffin's or Kendricks'.Recognize. You've never even heard Elvis cover or Bridge.P.S. Chris Cornell did a phenominal cover of Billie Jean on his last acoustic tour.
I think Michaels' singing abilities are very underrated. When people talk about him, they talk about his dancing, his whole persona, but the fact is the guy is an incredible singer. To say he's less than average or that a band leader could smoke him is rediculous. Michael has got to have one of the greatest voices of all time, his versatility is so insane that there have only been 3 or 4 cover songs recorded by major artists of his work, even though he's had hit after hit, nobody else sings them live or re-records them? The reason is most of his stuff the average singer cannot attempt to cover. He can sing any genre from R&B to Gospel to Rock, to Heavy Metal to Pop to even songs that have country influences. Look how easily he switches between pop, hiphop, and heavy metal in shit like "black or white". If you want to talk shit about him, you can't honestly with an open mind say the man can't sing. He can sing smooth, rough, falsetto, high, low, the man can be Gerald Levert, Usher, Stephen Tyler, and Luther Vandross on the same song. He's simply an incredible performer on every measurable level.Now to compare him vocally to Elvis is rediculous. Elvis I would say is the greatest pop singer of all time. He's another guy with an incredible versatility, only his upper limits included operatic performances, he was simply on another planet.
Quote from: Shallow on January 22, 2008, 04:40:46 PMQuote from: RECOGNIZE187 on January 22, 2008, 04:28:27 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 22, 2008, 02:22:05 PMQuote from: white Boy on January 22, 2008, 09:52:51 AMi think to compare michaels voice to elvis' is outragous, ill give you at least 10 better singers than Michael, It's pointless man trust me. The guy is an MJ nut. He would let MJ babysit his young son could walk in on MJ sticking his penis inside the kid's mouth and not only be okay with it but spin it like it was a great thing to happen. Look how he went on about the name.For the record the average high school band leader in 60s Detroit, the ones that never got record deals, were better singers than MJ, and better singers than any current black male with a record contrant.man...i know what i like..and what is good!i aint no nut!! i listen to hardcore gangsta shit ,old school...i don't listen to pop and rnb!!only MJ...so it must be somethin special about him don't u think?if u don't put MJ in your top 10 greatest singers its somethin wrong with u! i guess yall also think stevie wonder is nothin special right??then u are saying all this white guys...phill collins,bilie joel are better then MJ...,LOL!! im white...dont worry...but black people HAVE BETTER SINGIN VOICE!!! ok!!the way it sounds!! when it comes to SOUL,RNB,BLUES and so on!even elvis stole rock and roll from the black people!!if u dont know ,mj is the king of pop rock and soul!!don't really matter lol I never said they were better (Joel, Elton, Collins). I said same in my eyes. Stevie is above all those guys. The proof is in the pudding. His body of work is at another level than Phil Collins or MJ. Same goes for Prince. Guys like Prince, Dylan, Stevie, Springsteen, Hendrix, created art for art, for expression. They wanted to say something important, both lyrically and musically. MJ, Collins, Joel, Elton were more concerned about success and making hits. Fun song that every can love. Simpler songs.Like you said, you only listen to MJ outside of rap. What is MJ to you? Childhood. I'm guessing you were born between '78 and '86, maybe a later but not earlier. Everyone has childhood heroes. First memories. Soft spots. If you grew up in the 50s it probably would have been Elvis just because he was the big star and nostalgia would take over. 80s kids have soft sports for MJ, girls for Madonna, Nintendo, Hulk Hogan. But people that were born in 68 or 70 don't feel the same about those things. They have their own memories.You like Hip Hop right. MJ is to RnB and Pop what Eminem is to Rap. The biggest star. Not the best talent. MJ is closer to Nelly than he is to Nas. If you explore more music, Rock and Roll, RnB, I think you'll see that.MJ has fans from the age of 12 to 70 man..so dont matter...real recognize real!i know what u mean...but it was not always about hits with ;MJ...go and listen to his album HISTORY from 1995!!the thing is..yea i grew up with MJ..but i still like him today!!coz he is so good..and everything he did is perfect..u have to see it and listen!! while others...for example like PRINCE...90 % of his music sucks!! i listened to his new album...i only liked 1 track!
Quote from: RECOGNIZE187 on January 22, 2008, 04:28:27 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 22, 2008, 02:22:05 PMQuote from: white Boy on January 22, 2008, 09:52:51 AMi think to compare michaels voice to elvis' is outragous, ill give you at least 10 better singers than Michael, It's pointless man trust me. The guy is an MJ nut. He would let MJ babysit his young son could walk in on MJ sticking his penis inside the kid's mouth and not only be okay with it but spin it like it was a great thing to happen. Look how he went on about the name.For the record the average high school band leader in 60s Detroit, the ones that never got record deals, were better singers than MJ, and better singers than any current black male with a record contrant.man...i know what i like..and what is good!i aint no nut!! i listen to hardcore gangsta shit ,old school...i don't listen to pop and rnb!!only MJ...so it must be somethin special about him don't u think?if u don't put MJ in your top 10 greatest singers its somethin wrong with u! i guess yall also think stevie wonder is nothin special right??then u are saying all this white guys...phill collins,bilie joel are better then MJ...,LOL!! im white...dont worry...but black people HAVE BETTER SINGIN VOICE!!! ok!!the way it sounds!! when it comes to SOUL,RNB,BLUES and so on!even elvis stole rock and roll from the black people!!if u dont know ,mj is the king of pop rock and soul!!don't really matter lol I never said they were better (Joel, Elton, Collins). I said same in my eyes. Stevie is above all those guys. The proof is in the pudding. His body of work is at another level than Phil Collins or MJ. Same goes for Prince. Guys like Prince, Dylan, Stevie, Springsteen, Hendrix, created art for art, for expression. They wanted to say something important, both lyrically and musically. MJ, Collins, Joel, Elton were more concerned about success and making hits. Fun song that every can love. Simpler songs.Like you said, you only listen to MJ outside of rap. What is MJ to you? Childhood. I'm guessing you were born between '78 and '86, maybe a later but not earlier. Everyone has childhood heroes. First memories. Soft spots. If you grew up in the 50s it probably would have been Elvis just because he was the big star and nostalgia would take over. 80s kids have soft sports for MJ, girls for Madonna, Nintendo, Hulk Hogan. But people that were born in 68 or 70 don't feel the same about those things. They have their own memories.You like Hip Hop right. MJ is to RnB and Pop what Eminem is to Rap. The biggest star. Not the best talent. MJ is closer to Nelly than he is to Nas. If you explore more music, Rock and Roll, RnB, I think you'll see that.
Quote from: Shallow on January 22, 2008, 02:22:05 PMQuote from: white Boy on January 22, 2008, 09:52:51 AMi think to compare michaels voice to elvis' is outragous, ill give you at least 10 better singers than Michael, It's pointless man trust me. The guy is an MJ nut. He would let MJ babysit his young son could walk in on MJ sticking his penis inside the kid's mouth and not only be okay with it but spin it like it was a great thing to happen. Look how he went on about the name.For the record the average high school band leader in 60s Detroit, the ones that never got record deals, were better singers than MJ, and better singers than any current black male with a record contrant.man...i know what i like..and what is good!i aint no nut!! i listen to hardcore gangsta shit ,old school...i don't listen to pop and rnb!!only MJ...so it must be somethin special about him don't u think?if u don't put MJ in your top 10 greatest singers its somethin wrong with u! i guess yall also think stevie wonder is nothin special right??then u are saying all this white guys...phill collins,bilie joel are better then MJ...,LOL!! im white...dont worry...but black people HAVE BETTER SINGIN VOICE!!! ok!!the way it sounds!! when it comes to SOUL,RNB,BLUES and so on!even elvis stole rock and roll from the black people!!if u dont know ,mj is the king of pop rock and soul!!don't really matter lol
Quote from: white Boy on January 22, 2008, 09:52:51 AMi think to compare michaels voice to elvis' is outragous, ill give you at least 10 better singers than Michael, It's pointless man trust me. The guy is an MJ nut. He would let MJ babysit his young son could walk in on MJ sticking his penis inside the kid's mouth and not only be okay with it but spin it like it was a great thing to happen. Look how he went on about the name.For the record the average high school band leader in 60s Detroit, the ones that never got record deals, were better singers than MJ, and better singers than any current black male with a record contrant.
i think to compare michaels voice to elvis' is outragous, ill give you at least 10 better singers than Michael,
Quote from: Shallow on January 22, 2008, 04:49:58 PMQuote from: Trauma-san on January 22, 2008, 04:34:27 PMI think Michaels' singing abilities are very underrated. When people talk about him, they talk about his dancing, his whole persona, but the fact is the guy is an incredible singer. To say he's less than average or that a band leader could smoke him is rediculous. Michael has got to have one of the greatest voices of all time, his versatility is so insane that there have only been 3 or 4 cover songs recorded by major artists of his work, even though he's had hit after hit, nobody else sings them live or re-records them? The reason is most of his stuff the average singer cannot attempt to cover. He can sing any genre from R&B to Gospel to Rock, to Heavy Metal to Pop to even songs that have country influences. Look how easily he switches between pop, hiphop, and heavy metal in shit like "black or white". If you want to talk shit about him, you can't honestly with an open mind say the man can't sing. He can sing smooth, rough, falsetto, high, low, the man can be Gerald Levert, Usher, Stephen Tyler, and Luther Vandross on the same song. He's simply an incredible performer on every measurable level.Now to compare him vocally to Elvis is rediculous. Elvis I would say is the greatest pop singer of all time. He's another guy with an incredible versatility, only his upper limits included operatic performances, he was simply on another planet. He can sing just fine. When I sad Band leader I meant lead singers to all those groups lie the Temptations in Detroit that never got deals. MoTown the city had incredible talent no one ever heard. The problem is they all sounded like David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks. I mean exactly like they sound. And as much as I like MJ's voice I'll never say it's as good as Ruffin's or Kendricks'.Recognize. You've never even heard Elvis cover or Bridge.P.S. Chris Cornell did a phenominal cover of Billie Jean on his last acoustic tour.yea i heard...even jackson 5 sang that song...Jermaine...yall said MJ is not in your top 10 so i cant take yall serious..really...somethin is wrong with yall LOL
Quote from: RECOGNIZE187 on January 22, 2008, 04:47:57 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 22, 2008, 04:40:46 PMQuote from: RECOGNIZE187 on January 22, 2008, 04:28:27 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 22, 2008, 02:22:05 PMQuote from: white Boy on January 22, 2008, 09:52:51 AMi think to compare michaels voice to elvis' is outragous, ill give you at least 10 better singers than Michael, It's pointless man trust me. The guy is an MJ nut. He would let MJ babysit his young son could walk in on MJ sticking his penis inside the kid's mouth and not only be okay with it but spin it like it was a great thing to happen. Look how he went on about the name.For the record the average high school band leader in 60s Detroit, the ones that never got record deals, were better singers than MJ, and better singers than any current black male with a record contrant.man...i know what i like..and what is good!i aint no nut!! i listen to hardcore gangsta shit ,old school...i don't listen to pop and rnb!!only MJ...so it must be somethin special about him don't u think?if u don't put MJ in your top 10 greatest singers its somethin wrong with u! i guess yall also think stevie wonder is nothin special right??then u are saying all this white guys...phill collins,bilie joel are better then MJ...,LOL!! im white...dont worry...but black people HAVE BETTER SINGIN VOICE!!! ok!!the way it sounds!! when it comes to SOUL,RNB,BLUES and so on!even elvis stole rock and roll from the black people!!if u dont know ,mj is the king of pop rock and soul!!don't really matter lol I never said they were better (Joel, Elton, Collins). I said same in my eyes. Stevie is above all those guys. The proof is in the pudding. His body of work is at another level than Phil Collins or MJ. Same goes for Prince. Guys like Prince, Dylan, Stevie, Springsteen, Hendrix, created art for art, for expression. They wanted to say something important, both lyrically and musically. MJ, Collins, Joel, Elton were more concerned about success and making hits. Fun song that every can love. Simpler songs.Like you said, you only listen to MJ outside of rap. What is MJ to you? Childhood. I'm guessing you were born between '78 and '86, maybe a later but not earlier. Everyone has childhood heroes. First memories. Soft spots. If you grew up in the 50s it probably would have been Elvis just because he was the big star and nostalgia would take over. 80s kids have soft sports for MJ, girls for Madonna, Nintendo, Hulk Hogan. But people that were born in 68 or 70 don't feel the same about those things. They have their own memories.You like Hip Hop right. MJ is to RnB and Pop what Eminem is to Rap. The biggest star. Not the best talent. MJ is closer to Nelly than he is to Nas. If you explore more music, Rock and Roll, RnB, I think you'll see that.MJ has fans from the age of 12 to 70 man..so dont matter...real recognize real!i know what u mean...but it was not always about hits with ;MJ...go and listen to his album HISTORY from 1995!!the thing is..yea i grew up with MJ..but i still like him today!!coz he is so good..and everything he did is perfect..u have to see it and listen!! while others...for example like PRINCE...90 % of his music sucks!! i listened to his new album...i only liked 1 track!I've listened to everything MJ has ever released. Even the solo Motown stuff in the 70s. Believe or not. I'm a big fan. 12 to 70 isn't the same as the kids of the 80s. 12 year olds as a whole don't like the sings as much as 25 yar old. Neither do 70 year olds. Go to 50 black people over the age of 70 and ask them who was better MJ or Elvis. I did it once to win a bet. 48 said Elvis. We tried the same thing with blacks under 30; 1 said Elvis and we was weird.You think 90% of Prince's Music sucks. I think Prince's worst stuff is better than 90% of MJ's music.
Quote from: RECOGNIZE187 on January 22, 2008, 04:52:14 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 22, 2008, 04:49:58 PMQuote from: Trauma-san on January 22, 2008, 04:34:27 PMI think Michaels' singing abilities are very underrated. When people talk about him, they talk about his dancing, his whole persona, but the fact is the guy is an incredible singer. To say he's less than average or that a band leader could smoke him is rediculous. Michael has got to have one of the greatest voices of all time, his versatility is so insane that there have only been 3 or 4 cover songs recorded by major artists of his work, even though he's had hit after hit, nobody else sings them live or re-records them? The reason is most of his stuff the average singer cannot attempt to cover. He can sing any genre from R&B to Gospel to Rock, to Heavy Metal to Pop to even songs that have country influences. Look how easily he switches between pop, hiphop, and heavy metal in shit like "black or white". If you want to talk shit about him, you can't honestly with an open mind say the man can't sing. He can sing smooth, rough, falsetto, high, low, the man can be Gerald Levert, Usher, Stephen Tyler, and Luther Vandross on the same song. He's simply an incredible performer on every measurable level.Now to compare him vocally to Elvis is rediculous. Elvis I would say is the greatest pop singer of all time. He's another guy with an incredible versatility, only his upper limits included operatic performances, he was simply on another planet. He can sing just fine. When I sad Band leader I meant lead singers to all those groups lie the Temptations in Detroit that never got deals. MoTown the city had incredible talent no one ever heard. The problem is they all sounded like David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks. I mean exactly like they sound. And as much as I like MJ's voice I'll never say it's as good as Ruffin's or Kendricks'.Recognize. You've never even heard Elvis cover or Bridge.P.S. Chris Cornell did a phenominal cover of Billie Jean on his last acoustic tour.yea i heard...even jackson 5 sang that song...Jermaine...yall said MJ is not in your top 10 so i cant take yall serious..really...somethin is wrong with yall LOLProve to me that you heard it.
its all good on the end...we all have our own taste and opinion!but the fact is ,that in the industry MJ's vocals are copied far more than any other singer..his style..they all wanna sound like mike!
Quote from: RECOGNIZE187 on January 22, 2008, 05:35:51 PMits all good on the end...we all have our own taste and opinion!but the fact is ,that in the industry MJ's vocals are copied far more than any other singer..his style..they all wanna sound like mike!I agree there. All the current black singers who suck copy MJ. I liked it better when they all copied Little Richard. Everyone sang better then.
i never said i didnt like michaels voice, hes in top 15 or 20 of all time, and stevie wonder is amazing, he can make some beautiful touching songs and some incredible records., and he plays like every instrument!
Quote from: Shallow on January 22, 2008, 04:49:58 PMQuote from: Trauma-san on January 22, 2008, 04:34:27 PMI think Michaels' singing abilities are very underrated. When people talk about him, they talk about his dancing, his whole persona, but the fact is the guy is an incredible singer. To say he's less than average or that a band leader could smoke him is rediculous. Michael has got to have one of the greatest voices of all time, his versatility is so insane that there have only been 3 or 4 cover songs recorded by major artists of his work, even though he's had hit after hit, nobody else sings them live or re-records them? The reason is most of his stuff the average singer cannot attempt to cover. He can sing any genre from R&B to Gospel to Rock, to Heavy Metal to Pop to even songs that have country influences. Look how easily he switches between pop, hiphop, and heavy metal in shit like "black or white". If you want to talk shit about him, you can't honestly with an open mind say the man can't sing. He can sing smooth, rough, falsetto, high, low, the man can be Gerald Levert, Usher, Stephen Tyler, and Luther Vandross on the same song. He's simply an incredible performer on every measurable level.Now to compare him vocally to Elvis is rediculous. Elvis I would say is the greatest pop singer of all time. He's another guy with an incredible versatility, only his upper limits included operatic performances, he was simply on another planet. He can sing just fine. When I sad Band leader I meant lead singers to all those groups lie the Temptations in Detroit that never got deals. MoTown the city had incredible talent no one ever heard. The problem is they all sounded like David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks. I mean exactly like they sound. And as much as I like MJ's voice I'll never say it's as good as Ruffin's or Kendricks'.Recognize. You've never even heard Elvis cover or Bridge.P.S. Chris Cornell did a phenominal cover of Billie Jean on his last acoustic tour.Bitch please. I've got album after album of Elvis', I've listened to concerts of his and have several on video. I've heard his cover of Bridge Over Troubled Water, what the fuck you think you've got some shit on me because you've heard a POPULAR cover of a POPULAR song? I said Elvis was a better singer than Michael, why don't you go back and fucking read, child. I 'recognize' that I was listening to Elvis before you were born, how's that, bitch?
I don't know...maybe it's my upbringing, but I've never respected Elvis much at all, and I feel that he was extremely overrated as a singer and star. This might start a war on here, and I know for fact that some people here know much more about him than I will ever (care to) know. I just know that me and most people I know admire and respect MJ, James Brown, and even Prince MUCH, MUCH MORE than they ever will Elvis.