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Quote from: Javier on July 03, 2010, 01:57:23 PMI agree about the encroachment but the offside was legit. Cardozo was part of the play, you don't need to touch the ball for it to be offside. He wasn't any more offside that Klose was. And Klose was yesterday. Either way, bad calls or not Paraguay had the chances to wrap it up and they couldn't. Unlike yesterday where Argentina simply couldn't create any real chances.edit - unlike earlier today with Argentina.
I agree about the encroachment but the offside was legit. Cardozo was part of the play, you don't need to touch the ball for it to be offside.
Boca Juniors was doing better without Riquelme, he comes back and they're not even a top ten team in their league. The role of the playmaker is dead in modern football. You need players that can do much more than just receive the ball, slow the tempo and pass.
Quote from: Javier on July 03, 2010, 07:17:41 PMBoca Juniors was doing better without Riquelme, he comes back and they're not even a top ten team in their league. The role of the playmaker is dead in modern football. You need players that can do much more than just receive the ball, slow the tempo and pass. I still think Messi would have been the man of the team. I just think Riquelme would have meant another player with a touch. The way Argentina was this year it was only Messi feeding guys and no one to feed him. With Riuelme being able to set up plays he'd garner attention leaving Messi free to receive some well placed passes, instead of just making them.I think Argentina's real downfall was they had no one to combat the rough and dirty play of the Germans. And I'm not really sure how you do it in soccer anyway. In hockey they have guys like Scott Stevens. when Jersey would play a team like Philly, Philly would use their muscle to throw around the Devils and free up room for talented players. But then Scott Stevens would absolutely obliterate someone in the centre of the ice and all of a sudden the Flyers got worried. It was like getting hit mid air by Ray Lewis. In soccer you can't body check to begin with legally. And as much as I would have like to seen Mueler get punted in the head, it would have cost the team a player to do that.Germany could have been shaken up by one dynamite Messi goal. The kind of goal Maradona scored against England (the second goal), but Messi didn't have it in him today.
Quote from: Shallow on July 03, 2010, 07:43:40 PMQuote from: Javier on July 03, 2010, 07:17:41 PMBoca Juniors was doing better without Riquelme, he comes back and they're not even a top ten team in their league. The role of the playmaker is dead in modern football. You need players that can do much more than just receive the ball, slow the tempo and pass. I still think Messi would have been the man of the team. I just think Riquelme would have meant another player with a touch. The way Argentina was this year it was only Messi feeding guys and no one to feed him. With Riuelme being able to set up plays he'd garner attention leaving Messi free to receive some well placed passes, instead of just making them.I think Argentina's real downfall was they had no one to combat the rough and dirty play of the Germans. And I'm not really sure how you do it in soccer anyway. In hockey they have guys like Scott Stevens. when Jersey would play a team like Philly, Philly would use their muscle to throw around the Devils and free up room for talented players. But then Scott Stevens would absolutely obliterate someone in the centre of the ice and all of a sudden the Flyers got worried. It was like getting hit mid air by Ray Lewis. In soccer you can't body check to begin with legally. And as much as I would have like to seen Mueler get punted in the head, it would have cost the team a player to do that.Germany could have been shaken up by one dynamite Messi goal. The kind of goal Maradona scored against England (the second goal), but Messi didn't have it in him today.nigga what the fuck are you talking about? dirty play? loool we stripped them off the ball legally and disrupted their passing lanes all the time. what the fuck if dirty about that? they got laid out east coast style. plus, müller is the best new/young player of the tournament. why are you hating?
Quote from: ELANO shits on garry malt the idiot every day on July 03, 2010, 01:56:54 PMQuote from: Meho on July 03, 2010, 01:35:36 PMSpain is not playing good at all, especially comparing to Eu 08. But Villa is in such incredible form. But he can't save them every single time, probably...The spain of tonight is not good enough to beat germany.another 4-0 Spain's midfield > Argentina's midfieldDifferent game
Quote from: Meho on July 03, 2010, 01:35:36 PMSpain is not playing good at all, especially comparing to Eu 08. But Villa is in such incredible form. But he can't save them every single time, probably...The spain of tonight is not good enough to beat germany.another 4-0
Spain is not playing good at all, especially comparing to Eu 08. But Villa is in such incredible form. But he can't save them every single time, probably...
Quote from: Javier on July 03, 2010, 01:57:58 PMQuote from: ELANO shits on garry malt the idiot every day on July 03, 2010, 01:56:54 PMQuote from: Meho on July 03, 2010, 01:35:36 PMSpain is not playing good at all, especially comparing to Eu 08. But Villa is in such incredible form. But he can't save them every single time, probably...The spain of tonight is not good enough to beat germany.another 4-0 Spain's midfield > Argentina's midfieldDifferent gametrue.+ Capdevilla- Pique- Ramos- Puyol is another league than Otamendi & co. Plus Müller is missing because of a yellow card which was a complete joke.Spain was poor yesterday, but the semifinal 'll be a different game. No matter what happens in the last 2 games, we can say that germany saved the tournament. There have been some dramatic games lately, but we provided quality football. I'm really scared, we actually play good football, why nations like Netherlands or Brasil play like Germans. This is weird.
Quote from: still not decided on July 04, 2010, 04:32:27 AMQuote from: Javier on July 03, 2010, 01:57:58 PMQuote from: ELANO shits on garry malt the idiot every day on July 03, 2010, 01:56:54 PMQuote from: Meho on July 03, 2010, 01:35:36 PMSpain is not playing good at all, especially comparing to Eu 08. But Villa is in such incredible form. But he can't save them every single time, probably...The spain of tonight is not good enough to beat germany.another 4-0 Football knowledge FAIL !Germany is playing a superior football right now, you noticed how when germany has the ball on the opposites site and they dont rush things 9 out of 10 times they gonna produce a goal scoriing chance.2nd thing is their counter attacks are executed so well, they spread the game without losing the connection between each other, and strength got nothing to do with it a Muller,Ozil and Lahm are nothing physicly compared to the Defenders of Argentina and England, their advance is that they are well prepared for matches, and they have a good chemistry and a good passing game.Plus their defense is amazing they are playing "total football" the stuff Holland evented back in they days, they switch from attacking formation which is like a offensive 4-4-2 system to a defensive formation 4-4-1-1, Schweinsteiger and Khedira switch positions very often, which can be very confusing for the attacking players.Schweinsteiger and Khedira basicly play as Box-To-Box midfielders.To play that system you need 2 brilliant midfielders who basicly can play every positon starting from DM to AM, Schweinsteiger showed exactly how to play that role in the game against Argentina, Messi and Tevez couldnt do shit without either Schweinsteiger or Khedira on their back.All this isnt just a coincidence, Germany has shown the greatest improvement since the EC in 2000, after they went home early in that tournament they decided that its time for a drastic change, they opened up hundrests of youth camps across germany (So did all the major german clubs), they invested cca.30 mil euros in youth development.They even gave thri U16 team a psychologist and a psychotherapeuth, which nobody does at that age.And it paid of not just on this tournament but on last years U21 EC which they have won beating England 4-0 (sounds familiar right).Spain's midfield > Argentina's midfieldDifferent gametrue.+ Capdevilla- Pique- Ramos- Puyol is another league than Otamendi & co. Plus Müller is missing because of a yellow card which was a complete joke.Spain was poor yesterday, but the semifinal 'll be a different game. No matter what happens in the last 2 games, we can say that germany saved the tournament. There have been some dramatic games lately, but we provided quality football. I'm really scared, we actually play good football, why nations like Netherlands or Brasil play like Germans. This is weird.Get over yourself. You guys beat England in large part to a bad British squad and a disallowed goal, and you beat Argentina because the little Argentines were just muscled off the ball by the big Germans. You want to use body strength in football, try American Football. I'd pay money to see Mueller go up for a header against Ray Lewis. But Ray might not get the head, but he's likely to take 3 German heads off trying.The point is, the quality of your ball was nothing special. You may just end up winning but it won't be out of ball skill. It'll be size and strength. I'm still holding out for Uruguay. The Hands of God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Javier on July 03, 2010, 01:57:58 PMQuote from: ELANO shits on garry malt the idiot every day on July 03, 2010, 01:56:54 PMQuote from: Meho on July 03, 2010, 01:35:36 PMSpain is not playing good at all, especially comparing to Eu 08. But Villa is in such incredible form. But he can't save them every single time, probably...The spain of tonight is not good enough to beat germany.another 4-0 Football knowledge FAIL !Germany is playing a superior football right now, you noticed how when germany has the ball on the opposites site and they dont rush things 9 out of 10 times they gonna produce a goal scoriing chance.2nd thing is their counter attacks are executed so well, they spread the game without losing the connection between each other, and strength got nothing to do with it a Muller,Ozil and Lahm are nothing physicly compared to the Defenders of Argentina and England, their advance is that they are well prepared for matches, and they have a good chemistry and a good passing game.Plus their defense is amazing they are playing "total football" the stuff Holland evented back in they days, they switch from attacking formation which is like a offensive 4-4-2 system to a defensive formation 4-4-1-1, Schweinsteiger and Khedira switch positions very often, which can be very confusing for the attacking players.Schweinsteiger and Khedira basicly play as Box-To-Box midfielders.To play that system you need 2 brilliant midfielders who basicly can play every positon starting from DM to AM, Schweinsteiger showed exactly how to play that role in the game against Argentina, Messi and Tevez couldnt do shit without either Schweinsteiger or Khedira on their back.All this isnt just a coincidence, Germany has shown the greatest improvement since the EC in 2000, after they went home early in that tournament they decided that its time for a drastic change, they opened up hundrests of youth camps across germany (So did all the major german clubs), they invested cca.30 mil euros in youth development.They even gave thri U16 team a psychologist and a psychotherapeuth, which nobody does at that age.And it paid of not just on this tournament but on last years U21 EC which they have won beating England 4-0 (sounds familiar right).Spain's midfield > Argentina's midfieldDifferent gametrue.+ Capdevilla- Pique- Ramos- Puyol is another league than Otamendi & co. Plus Müller is missing because of a yellow card which was a complete joke.Spain was poor yesterday, but the semifinal 'll be a different game. No matter what happens in the last 2 games, we can say that germany saved the tournament. There have been some dramatic games lately, but we provided quality football. I'm really scared, we actually play good football, why nations like Netherlands or Brasil play like Germans. This is weird.
Quote from: ELANO shits on garry malt the idiot every day on July 03, 2010, 01:56:54 PMQuote from: Meho on July 03, 2010, 01:35:36 PMSpain is not playing good at all, especially comparing to Eu 08. But Villa is in such incredible form. But he can't save them every single time, probably...The spain of tonight is not good enough to beat germany.another 4-0 Football knowledge FAIL !Germany is playing a superior football right now, you noticed how when germany has the ball on the opposites site and they dont rush things 9 out of 10 times they gonna produce a goal scoriing chance.2nd thing is their counter attacks are executed so well, they spread the game without losing the connection between each other, and strength got nothing to do with it a Muller,Ozil and Lahm are nothing physicly compared to the Defenders of Argentina and England, their advance is that they are well prepared for matches, and they have a good chemistry and a good passing game.Plus their defense is amazing they are playing "total football" the stuff Holland evented back in they days, they switch from attacking formation which is like a offensive 4-4-2 system to a defensive formation 4-4-1-1, Schweinsteiger and Khedira switch positions very often, which can be very confusing for the attacking players.Schweinsteiger and Khedira basicly play as Box-To-Box midfielders.To play that system you need 2 brilliant midfielders who basicly can play every positon starting from DM to AM, Schweinsteiger showed exactly how to play that role in the game against Argentina, Messi and Tevez couldnt do shit without either Schweinsteiger or Khedira on their back.All this isnt just a coincidence, Germany has shown the greatest improvement since the EC in 2000, after they went home early in that tournament they decided that its time for a drastic change, they opened up hundrests of youth camps across germany (So did all the major german clubs), they invested cca.30 mil euros in youth development.They even gave thri U16 team a psychologist and a psychotherapeuth, which nobody does at that age.And it paid of not just on this tournament but on last years U21 EC which they have won beating England 4-0 (sounds familiar right).Spain's midfield > Argentina's midfieldDifferent game
Why are you talking shit? Many attacks and goals by Germany were truthfully beautiful and skilled! We do great give and go passes, fast plays, fast sprints, everythin! Lol@saying Müller is outmuscleing niggas. He plays the smartest passes of the tournament, it has nothing to do with strength or size.
Quote from: 7even on July 04, 2010, 08:00:53 AMWhy are you talking shit? Many attacks and goals by Germany were truthfully beautiful and skilled! We do great give and go passes, fast plays, fast sprints, everythin! Lol@saying Müller is outmuscleing niggas. He plays the smartest passes of the tournament, it has nothing to do with strength or size.That shit they were doing on the corners were they had their hands down and pretending they weren't doing anything. The look on their faces I'd imagine is the exact same look SS soldiers at the death camps had on their faces. Dirtiest players of the tourney.
Quote from: 7even on July 04, 2010, 08:00:53 AMWhy are you talking shit? Many attacks and goals by Germany were truthfully beautiful and skilled! We do great give and go passes, fast plays, fast sprints, everythin! Lol@saying Müller is outmuscleing niggas. He plays the smartest passes of the tournament, it has nothing to do with strength or size.That shit they were doing on the corners were they had their hands down and pretending they weren't doing anything. The look on their faces I'd imagine is the exact same look SS soldiers at the death camps had on their faces. Dirtiest players of the tourney.My father said yesterday, Argentina should have just let Greece win and play Germany instead. We may not have won the game, but after how the German and Greek governments fucked over the Greek workers in the past months my boys would have ended that game with some good old fashioned violence.