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HighEyeCue

Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2011, 06:14:59 AM »
the Biz Markie and 2pac-comparison is perfect.
pac ghostwriting for lady of rage or 95-era Kurupt -- as possible as Markie ghostwritin for Kane or G Rap..

Kurupt was in the top 3-mc's in the world back in 95, for christ sake..

n u mean to tell me an artist like friggin 2pac ghostwrote his shit?

what verses were penned by 2pac?
oh yes, i can completely recognize mr Shakurs lyrical dexterity in Kurupts-rhyme patterns on songs like "new york", smooth" and "slippin in the west"

granted, kurupt is wack today - but 2pac could only dream of punchlines, wordplay, lyrical capabilities like taht back in 95..

"sho shot" by lady of rage?
yeah, thats definitely 2pac  :D

gtfoh


Not Sho Shot, not even Big Bad Lady that he was featured on. You seem to be missing an understanding on how it was when 2Pac got to Death Row. He arrived and shook the company up. He was writing so much material, that everybody struggled to keep up with him including the producers. So much was written that he couldn't even record it all, which in the end proved noxious because not all the "ideal" people got their hands on the material that wasn't recorded.
Besides rap though, he wrote scripts, plays, poetry, music video concepts, tracks, track lists, album & PR ideas for other artists - everything. He wrote songs, verses, even hooks for artists not because they asked for it, or even needed it, but because he wanted to do it. He was a writing machine plain and simple

Just because 2Pac wrote for these people, it doesn't mean that they needed the help, or even asked for it. He would just write it without their knowledge, then go up to the artist with it complete. Outlawz were different though besides Syke, Fatal & Kadafi

all true but can you think of any examples where Pac wrote for Kurupt and Rage?
 

DeeezNuuuts83

Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2011, 11:39:59 PM »
I was only talking about the retail version, don't know about the other version
there are handwritten lyrics (all in Tupac's handwriting) on the same pieces of paper with all verses written
the lyrics were filmed in some studio footage
(btw, the written outlawz verses have slight differences to the recorded lyrics, seems like the lawz changed some words)
the only logical explanation to me is that he wrote those lyrics
I know what you're talking about, but it wasn't in Pac's handwriting, which is different, as the papers were written too neatly (Pac's handwriting gets more and more sloppy, plus he wouldn't have the patience to do all that as neatly as it was) and weren't split up into bars.  Someone else had probably transcribed it for some reason.
 

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Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2011, 06:56:47 AM »
I know what you're talking about, but it wasn't in Pac's handwriting, which is different, as the papers were written too neatly (Pac's handwriting gets more and more sloppy, plus he wouldn't have the patience to do all that as neatly as it was) and weren't split up into bars.  Someone else had probably transcribed it for some reason.

I think it was Pac's handwriting but I didn't actually compare it to any of his other handwritten stuff so I'm not sure
and it's still unexplained why the written lyrics had slight changes if your theory is true
I would like to look into this but I can't remember which DVD it was on
do you remember which one it was?
 

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Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2011, 01:52:58 PM »
2Pac did write for Outlawz on Death Row a lot despite what they say about whatever (Outlaw) was completed in time got to record their verses if they were quick enough.. This is true to a degree however due to 2Pac's fast writing capabilities, this caused 2Pac to write other/give up a lot of his own verses to other Outlawz so that they could jump on to the track with him, give them exposure, and so that 2Pac had a dedicated group under him. Some of the tracks (There are more) are:

Bomb First (My Second Reply) - E.D.I's verse
When We Ride - Napoleon's verse
Thug Passion - Verse 2
U Can Be Touched OG version 2 - Verses
Made Niggaz - Napoleon's verse


so missed this speculation to say that Dr Dre wrote letters to Tupac, Outlawz, Snoop, Daz, Rage, Kurupt and The Row entire
HUAUHAUHUHAUHAHUAA
 

OG Hack Wilson

Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2011, 02:06:44 PM »
2Pac did write for Outlawz on Death Row a lot despite what they say about whatever (Outlaw) was completed in time got to record their verses if they were quick enough.. This is true to a degree however due to 2Pac's fast writing capabilities, this caused 2Pac to write other/give up a lot of his own verses to other Outlawz so that they could jump on to the track with him, give them exposure, and so that 2Pac had a dedicated group under him. Some of the tracks (There are more) are:

Bomb First (My Second Reply) - E.D.I's verse
When We Ride - Napoleon's verse
Thug Passion - Verse 2
U Can Be Touched OG version 2 - Verses
Made Niggaz - Napoleon's verse


so missed this speculation to say that Dr Dre wrote letters to Tupac, Outlawz, Snoop, Daz, Rage, Kurupt and The Row entire
HUAUHAUHUHAUHAHUAA

speak english
 

Quadruple OG

Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2011, 02:08:45 PM »
Considering 'Pac and Lady of Rage never got along, I can't see 'Pac writing songs for Rage. I don't see him writing verses for Bad Azz either; given the story about how "Krazy" was recorded, Bad Azz was capable of coming up with a verse in a decent amount of time.

Kurupt having rhymes ghostwritten for him wouldn't be shocking given the sharp drop-off in his lyricism since '99.
 

OG Hack Wilson

Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2011, 02:10:18 PM »
Considering 'Pac and Lady of Rage never got along, I can't see 'Pac writing songs for Rage. I don't see him writing verses for Bad Azz either; given the story about how "Krazy" was recorded, Bad Azz was capable of coming up with a verse in a decent amount of time.

Kurupt having rhymes ghostwritten for him wouldn't be shocking given the sharp drop-off in his lyricism since '99.

Pac and Rage didn't get along?  how so?


and yeah Crooked wrote for Kurupt but wouldn't elaborate on what he did
 

bouli77

Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2011, 03:35:04 PM »
pac went at rage cause during a studio session where they were all dissing the shit out of bad boy rage refused to indulge saying that she didn't have anything to say about them... or something along those lines. anyway it was east coast related, knowing that she was from VA, pac must have wanted her to prove her loyalty.

2pac didn't ghostwrite for kurupt but i can picture him coming to him with a song made-to-measure for kurupt since they were v. good friends. Kurupt wrote a lot for Daz during the death row era, especially on dogg food (he said it in an interview in the heyday of their beef)
 

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Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2011, 03:59:49 PM »
Pac and Rage didn't get along?  how so?


pac went at rage cause during a studio session where they were all dissing the shit out of bad boy rage refused to indulge saying that she didn't have anything to say about them... or something along those lines. anyway it was east coast related, knowing that she was from VA, pac must have wanted her to prove her loyalty.

It was along those lines. There was an interview with Rage where she mentioned that, and also how she and Pac just never saw eye to eye during their time.

By the way, "They Wanna Be Like Us" from Chronic 2000 is rumored to be a track 2pac wrote but never got to record.
 

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Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2011, 08:58:46 PM »
gtfoh RAGE,KURUPT & BAD AZZ they are all great ghost writers themselves.
 

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Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2011, 06:06:06 AM »
pac went at rage cause during a studio session where they were all dissing the shit out of bad boy rage refused to indulge saying that she didn't have anything to say about them... or something along those lines. anyway it was east coast related, knowing that she was from VA, pac must have wanted her to prove her loyalty.

yes, I heard that pac wanted a female MC to diss Lil Kim & Da Brat (obviously Storm got that role later on)
at first he wanted Rage to do it but she declined and after that pac didn't fuck with her anymore
 

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Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2011, 03:30:23 PM »
Fuck halfsteppin hoes afraid to take it all the way to the front line!! Thug Life is the real deal not some fashion statement!!! WESTSIDE BAD BOY KILLA THUG LIFE OUTLAW!!!! Lil Kim its still on ya slut!!
 

OG Hack Wilson

Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2011, 03:40:16 PM »
Fuck halfsteppin hoes afraid to take it all the way to the front line!! Thug Life is the real deal not some fashion statement!!! WESTSIDE BAD BOY KILLA THUG LIFE OUTLAW!!!! Lil Kim its still on ya slut!!
tanner what up
 

OG Hack Wilson

Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2011, 03:41:48 PM »
pac went at rage cause during a studio session where they were all dissing the shit out of bad boy rage refused to indulge saying that she didn't have anything to say about them... or something along those lines. anyway it was east coast related, knowing that she was from VA, pac must have wanted her to prove her loyalty.

yes, I heard that pac wanted a female MC to diss Lil Kim & Da Brat (obviously Storm got that role later on)
at first he wanted Rage to do it but she declined and after that pac didn't fuck with her anymore


good - Storm was a better rapper to me than Rage anyways   (granted Storm could never make a song like Afro Puffs....Lady of Rage could never match Storm's intense lyrics on Black Jesus, Never Be Peace, Under Pressure part 2 etc)





*awaits Lady of Rage dickriders to hate on him*
 

DeeezNuuuts83

Re: Some Outlaw Verses Written by 2Pac were:
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2011, 03:53:40 PM »
I don't dickride Rage, but I would have to completely disagree with you about thinking Storm is better than Rage.