Author Topic: The Firm (Nas, AZ, Foxy, Dr. Dre) Promo Interview 1997 VIDEO (Read 685 times)

Jimmy H. · « **Reply #15 on:** April 12, 2011, 03:28:31 AM »

Quote from: Infinite- African West Coastin' 2010 on April 11, 2011, 11:45:02 AM

Nice memories.. thanks for posting, I'd never seen that promo before. In the time it came out it was a considered a Flop by critics, however the album did enter the charts at #1 and sold platinum. By today's watered down standards of hip-hop that shit was a classic. "Phone Tap" was an instant classic even in those times, Canibus' feature on there was blazing, and there were a few other cuts on there that people really liked.

No, it still isn't a classic. I like the album but compared to Dre's other classics leading up to that, it just wasn't all there. It's very much like the post-1997 Death Row material. Above-average music that seems to get more and more overrated by nostalgic fans who have a hard-on for the past. Dre's production is solid but the concept is very gimmicky in all the wrong ways. It's Dre and Nas doing a fake Mafiosio group concept album. It's a fun piece of experimentation but it was a noticeable misstep for both of their careers. In hindsight, every piece of music you even moderatly enjoyed back in the day seems like a fucking classic if you compare it to modern day music you hate. If we're bringing up Dr. Dre projects with NY rappers that get unfairly shit on, I'm still saying "Big Bang" deserves another day in court.

BlueSwan · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2011, 03:45:39 AM »

Quote from: Rondo Power on April 11, 2011, 11:31:47 AM

what a failed project that ended up being

Phone Tap = Top 3 alltime

Enough for me.

papa-smurf · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2011, 07:05:36 AM »

Quote from: Reality Check on April 11, 2011, 06:51:55 PM

Quote from: SPICE TWO on April 11, 2011, 01:51:41 PM
when mafioso music was going out of style.

When was mafioso music in style to begin with? It was a concept album that really hadn't been done yet.

As far as to why the album flopped, you can put that one on Trackmasters. The Dre tracks were consistent; the other tracks were all over the place (excluding "Desperados" and "Executive Decision"). "Firm Biz" shouldn't have been on the album; only reason it was on was because it fit with what Puffy was doing.

u crazy.firm biz was the best song on the whole album.

Dre-Day · « **Reply #18 on:** April 12, 2011, 08:02:52 AM »

dre & trackmasters= bad combo

Eazy-Duz-It · « **Reply #19 on:** April 12, 2011, 08:12:37 AM »

It's a damn shame what happened to The Firm. They had a lotta potential.

doggfather · « **Reply #20 on:** April 12, 2011, 08:18:36 AM »

neva really like 'em.

HighEyeCue · « **Reply #21 on:** April 12, 2011, 08:19:41 AM »

Quote from: From Dre-Day to Nate Day on April 12, 2011, 08:02:52 AM

dre & trackmasters= bad combo

Quote from: Eazy-Duz-It on April 12, 2011, 08:12:37 AM

It's a damn shame what happened to The Firm. They had a lotta potential.

co-sign

kuruptDPG · « **Reply #22 on:** April 12, 2011, 02:23:54 PM »

Quote from: From Dre-Day to Nate Day on April 12, 2011, 08:02:52 AM

dre & trackmasters= bad combo

BakinSodaFree · « **Reply #23 on:** April 12, 2011, 02:48:20 PM »

Quote from: HighEyeCue on April 12, 2011, 08:19:41 AM

Quote from: From Dre-Day to Nate Day on April 12, 2011, 08:02:52 AM
dre & trackmasters= bad combo
Quote from: Eazy-Duz-It on April 12, 2011, 08:12:37 AM
It's a damn shame what happened to The Firm. They had a lotta potential.

co-sign