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Probably my favorite Pac album. But yet, Brian has to be THAT nigga who tries to make connections out of nowhere.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on December 13, 2011, 07:33:01 PMPeople act like the beats were some classic shit by themselves but think about what Pac did to them.Listen to this: If I were a rapper and I heard this instrumental I would've said this shit is wack and sounds like an amateur made it. Pac took it to the next level and made it classic. Try listening to the instrumentals of the other beats, most of them aren't that impressive on their own.u must have a horrible ear... i would love if a producer came at me with a beat like that.
People act like the beats were some classic shit by themselves but think about what Pac did to them.Listen to this: If I were a rapper and I heard this instrumental I would've said this shit is wack and sounds like an amateur made it. Pac took it to the next level and made it classic. Try listening to the instrumentals of the other beats, most of them aren't that impressive on their own.
Quote from: NIKCC on December 13, 2011, 08:56:24 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on December 13, 2011, 08:54:09 PMQuote from: NIKCC on December 13, 2011, 08:46:40 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on December 13, 2011, 07:33:01 PMPeople act like the beats were some classic shit by themselves but think about what Pac did to them.Listen to this: If I were a rapper and I heard this instrumental I would've said this shit is wack and sounds like an amateur made it. Pac took it to the next level and made it classic. Try listening to the instrumentals of the other beats, most of them aren't that impressive on their own.u must have a horrible ear... i would love if a producer came at me with a beat like that.Don't even trip. You wouldn't have known what the fuck to do with a beat like that. It's easy to say after the fact of hearing Pac work his magic that you could have done the same thing, but you're lying to yourself.not sayin i woulda pulled a tupac, but ill work any beat...especially a vicious one like "hail mary"It ain't a vicious beat til you hear Pac spitting over it. Before that it sounds on some amateur fruity loops shit
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on December 13, 2011, 08:54:09 PMQuote from: NIKCC on December 13, 2011, 08:46:40 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on December 13, 2011, 07:33:01 PMPeople act like the beats were some classic shit by themselves but think about what Pac did to them.Listen to this: If I were a rapper and I heard this instrumental I would've said this shit is wack and sounds like an amateur made it. Pac took it to the next level and made it classic. Try listening to the instrumentals of the other beats, most of them aren't that impressive on their own.u must have a horrible ear... i would love if a producer came at me with a beat like that.Don't even trip. You wouldn't have known what the fuck to do with a beat like that. It's easy to say after the fact of hearing Pac work his magic that you could have done the same thing, but you're lying to yourself.not sayin i woulda pulled a tupac, but ill work any beat...especially a vicious one like "hail mary"
Quote from: NIKCC on December 13, 2011, 08:46:40 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on December 13, 2011, 07:33:01 PMPeople act like the beats were some classic shit by themselves but think about what Pac did to them.Listen to this: If I were a rapper and I heard this instrumental I would've said this shit is wack and sounds like an amateur made it. Pac took it to the next level and made it classic. Try listening to the instrumentals of the other beats, most of them aren't that impressive on their own.u must have a horrible ear... i would love if a producer came at me with a beat like that.Don't even trip. You wouldn't have known what the fuck to do with a beat like that. It's easy to say after the fact of hearing Pac work his magic that you could have done the same thing, but you're lying to yourself.
Quote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on December 13, 2011, 08:59:55 PMQuote from: NIKCC on December 13, 2011, 08:56:24 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on December 13, 2011, 08:54:09 PMQuote from: NIKCC on December 13, 2011, 08:46:40 PMQuote from: Spice 2 sees the bitch in you on December 13, 2011, 07:33:01 PMPeople act like the beats were some classic shit by themselves but think about what Pac did to them.Listen to this: If I were a rapper and I heard this instrumental I would've said this shit is wack and sounds like an amateur made it. Pac took it to the next level and made it classic. Try listening to the instrumentals of the other beats, most of them aren't that impressive on their own.u must have a horrible ear... i would love if a producer came at me with a beat like that.Don't even trip. You wouldn't have known what the fuck to do with a beat like that. It's easy to say after the fact of hearing Pac work his magic that you could have done the same thing, but you're lying to yourself.not sayin i woulda pulled a tupac, but ill work any beat...especially a vicious one like "hail mary"It ain't a vicious beat til you hear Pac spitting over it. Before that it sounds on some amateur fruity loops shitshut the fuck up already you deaf than a muthafucka dude.shut the fuck up and stop smoking criack
Well it also has to do with the fact that Makaveli was never intended to be a major commercial release but instead a street album 'to be sold a flee markets'. He wanted it to sound as raw and unpolished as possible.
Interscope would have never allowed that though despite it being an intention of 2Pac's
I hated "Just Like Daddy". That was the only song I've always skipped when I play that album.
just like daddys beat is just amazing i bump it mostly for that. i was trying to find out if it sampled something.
Quote from: kuruptlon on December 14, 2011, 06:17:04 AMWell it also has to do with the fact that Makaveli was never intended to be a major commercial release but instead a street album 'to be sold a flee markets'. He wanted it to sound as raw and unpolished as possible.That's true, but obviously the direction of the album changed, considering the variations of the tracklists that we've seen compared to each other and the final retail version (as it has a song like Toss It Up that wasn't from the same sessions at all but was thrown in there to get a radio single since Death Row wanted it to be a big album). About it being raw and unpolished, that's one assumption that was rumored, but some people also said that the album was never really mixed and mastered the way it was supposed to be. You can tell by comparing the songs on the album itself (prior to the DualDisc release) to the CD singles (i.e., Hail Mary, Toss It Up, To Live & Die in L.A.), which have the songs mixed and mastered to a much better degree.Quote from: V2DHeart on December 14, 2011, 12:43:20 PMInterscope would have never allowed that though despite it being an intention of 2Pac's...but it ended up being released that way though.Quote from: Hollywood Bilderberg Group™ on December 14, 2011, 12:47:51 PMI hated "Just Like Daddy". That was the only song I've always skipped when I play that album.Yeah, it's odd... I go back and forth with it, sometimes liking it and sometimes hating it. But it was technically an Outlawz song intended for their album or something like that.Quote from: 3331 on December 14, 2011, 12:58:34 PMjust like daddys beat is just amazing i bump it mostly for that. i was trying to find out if it sampled something.It samples "Impeach the President" by The Honey Drippers. That song "I Can" by Nas also samples it too (specifically the drumbeat), so does "Total Kaos" by EPMD and some others I can't think of at the moment.
It's not really that mysterious. They were basically unproven producers who nobody wanted to fuck with. I believe one of the Outlawz said the studio they were working in was often referred to as "The Wack Room" since nothing hot was coming out of there. My guess is Pac being the workaholic he is decided to give these guys a break since all the other Death Row guys were likely battling to get beats from the other more established guys.
but those songs fade after awhile (aside from Hit Em Up).
For some wack producers they put out nice beats that made that album. They also said Suge put the album out before it was even properly mastered. These guys deserved more credit and maybe some have advanced. A few of the producers were on some documentary's talking about how it was in the studio, etc. Some white dudes. They said Pac wanted more beef songs and it was smart they cut them out. Pac was saying leave them, take them off, leave them, etc. I think a few of the songs leaked (Watch Your Mouth, etc). I'm glad it was the way it is, because those songs will remain classics to me forever.
The Pac beef side was cool for a few listens, but those songs fade after awhile (aside from Hit Em Up).
Quote from: doublee313 on December 15, 2011, 12:56:41 PMbut those songs fade after awhile (aside from Hit Em Up).even Hit Em Up has faded for me. can't really listen to the track anymore. it's embarrassing. not a clever diss song with witty lines or anything. and even musically never thought it was that good to sample blatantly Dennis Edwards. but i guess it was really efficient when it came out.
Suge might have selected which finished tracks went on the album but Pac went into the studio to fetch the producers to make them. Or at least, that's how the story was told in XXL.
yes my friend, i personally have: beatles, led zeppelin, bob marley, jimi hendrix, the eagles, sade, barry white,etc. i see your point