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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1005 on: August 23, 2024, 04:37:45 PM »
The best way to describe Snoop would be, Ghetto Fabulous. He could have been way bigger than Jay-Z but he lost his credibility in 1996 when he dropped his sophomore album. Outside of the fanbase and the west coast territory, Snoop Dogg only has one album with no skips and that's Doggystyle, they others are solid efforts and regional classics. Jay Z on the other hand, has multiple classic albums. And Snoop Dogg socks at picking the right single to push his albums.

Jay-Z doesn't even have a classic song. 

It's a phenomenon called Group-Think.  People just like him because of the Emperor Has No Clothes Phenomenon—where idiots with no taste in music, who wanna be down with hip-hop ask, "oh hey who are the best rappers" and they hear the name Jay-Z and so they just follow along and parrot the name like sheep
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1006 on: August 23, 2024, 04:50:12 PM »
Jay-Z doesn't even have a classic song. 

It's a phenomenon called Group-Think.  People just like him because of the Emperor Has No Clothes Phenomenon—where idiots with no taste in music, who wanna be down with hip-hop ask, "oh hey who are the best rappers" and they hear the name Jay-Z and so they just follow along and parrot the name like sheep

Are you serious?

Can't knock the hustle
MONEY AINT A THANG
N**** In Paris
Empire State of Mind
Feeling It
Big Pimpin
Hard Knock Life


Just to name a few...
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1007 on: August 23, 2024, 05:20:40 PM »
Are you serious?

Can't knock the hustle
MONEY AINT A THANG
N**** In Paris
Empire State of Mind
Feeling It
Big Pimpin
Hard Knock Life

The only album I can listen to is Reasonable Doubt.


Just to name a few...
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1008 on: August 23, 2024, 08:02:32 PM »
ENCORE
DOA (death Of autotune)
Dirt Off Your Shoulder
Change Clothes
Izzo
Girls Girls Girls
Heart Of The City
Song Cry
03 Bonnie & Clyde
The Watcher 2
Show Me What You Got
I just wanna love you
Roc Boys
I know
Hey Papi
Run This Town
No church in the wild
Otis
Holy Grail
Tom Ford
On The Run
30 something
Lost one
Public Service Announcement

All internationally known hits from all of his albums.

What can Snoop Do?

Snoops Upside Ya Head
Still a G Thang
Bitch Please
Laylow
Beautiful
Drop it like it's hot
Let's Get Blown
SIGNS
Wrong Idea
Sexual Seduction
I wanna rock
Wet
That's That Shit
I wanna Fuck You
Gangsta Luv
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1009 on: August 23, 2024, 10:58:15 PM »

the reason snoop doesn’t sell much all goes back to what dre said…

snoop simply does way too much … he releases shit regularly and puts out unconcentrated efforts year round … he oversaturates his image with watered down output .. unlike jay, who will put out 1 concentrated effort and then fall out of the public eye until he resurfaces… so it makes every appearance an event that becomes highly anticipated… where as snoop is constantly in the public eye putting out anything and everything .. so when he releases an album it’s uneventful ……..

then to make matters worse, snoop doesn’t have the marketing etiquette and promotional machine behind him … so jay-z has def jam to really push his albums properly, with concentrated singles, commercials, radio play, etc….while snoop has been releasing his albums independently and through small labels like empire etc…. which doesn’t have the same resources to give an album that def jam notoriety in terms of marketing

eminem is cut from the jay-z cloth, which is why his releases are events


and that’s why having this released on Interscope with Dre and Iovine in control creatively makes this potentially snoops biggest album in over 20 years


should be interesting to see how this unfolds
Yeah, that's pretty much all of this.
 
With Snoop you can pretty much feel the moment when he stopped caring about quality and started to put out weak ass projects one after another just for fun. You can tell he was taking TBCT album seriously and had put some real effort into it, and as result that album ended up being great and generally considered to be his second best and it sold well. And it was the last time you saw Snoop actually trying. After that the quality of his music has been steadily declining. And when he started to care again, it was too late. (Just to be clear, I specifically didn't include Doggystyle and his early Death Row days in this conversation. I know it may seem as if he stopped caring right after his first album, since the next albums he dropped were that garbage ass Doggfather and then Game Is To Be Sold which was even worse, but he had recovered from that very quickly and continued to drop high-profile projects until 2006, despite them not being as good and successful as his debut)

Snoop is known mostly as some fun weed smoker who talks about same shit for 30 years rather than a good artist and isn't taken seriously as a rapper anymore, while Jay is among the most respected in the game and has like 4-5 classic albums, whereas Snoop only has one.
 
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1010 on: August 24, 2024, 01:52:33 AM »
ENCORE
DOA (death Of autotune)
Dirt Off Your Shoulder
Change Clothes
Izzo
Girls Girls Girls
Heart Of The City
Song Cry
03 Bonnie & Clyde
The Watcher 2
Show Me What You Got
I just wanna love you
Roc Boys
I know
Hey Papi
Run This Town
No church in the wild
Otis
Holy Grail
Tom Ford
On The Run
30 something
Lost one
Public Service Announcement

All internationally known hits from all of his albums.

What can Snoop Do?

Snoops Upside Ya Head
Still a G Thang
Bitch Please
Laylow
Beautiful
Drop it like it's hot
Let's Get Blown
SIGNS
Wrong Idea
Sexual Seduction
I wanna rock
Wet
That's That Shit
I wanna Fuck You
Gangsta Luv

fucc outta here... What track does Jay-Z have the level of "Gin and Juice"?

...Hell, just compare Jay-Z first single with Snoop's first single.  Jay bit Dru Down and had to rely on Foxy Brown to turn out "Ain't No Nicca".  Snoop came out with "Who Am I" ("What's My Name") he carried that whole mutherfuckin track

When Jay-Z does a joint like "Murder Was The Case" then we will talk until then shut the fucc up this the dubC forum HOMIE!!!!!!!

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1011 on: August 24, 2024, 04:16:49 AM »
ENCORE
DOA (death Of autotune)
Dirt Off Your Shoulder
Change Clothes
Izzo
Girls Girls Girls
Heart Of The City
Song Cry
03 Bonnie & Clyde
The Watcher 2
Show Me What You Got
I just wanna love you
Roc Boys
I know
Hey Papi
Run This Town
No church in the wild
Otis
Holy Grail
Tom Ford
On The Run
30 something
Lost one
Public Service Announcement

All internationally known hits from all of his albums.

What can Snoop Do?

Snoops Upside Ya Head
Still a G Thang
Bitch Please
Laylow
Beautiful
Drop it like it's hot
Let's Get Blown
SIGNS
Wrong Idea
Sexual Seduction
I wanna rock
Wet
That's That Shit
I wanna Fuck You
Gangsta Luv

Convenient left out a lot of Snoop bangers:

Gin & Juice
Hennessy & Budda
Just Dippin’
Ups & Downs
Who am I
Ain’t no fun
Down 4 my No

Just to name a few!


I didn’t want to get involved in this debate because at the end of the day, we like what we like.
I listen to Jay a lot and I can’t remember half of the track listed and I am (International).

Music is about what appeal to you and what you enjoy, to say Snoop to have bangers is just wrong.


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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1012 on: August 24, 2024, 06:19:09 AM »
Convenient left out a lot of Snoop bangers:

Gin & Juice
Hennessy & Budda
Just Dippin’
Ups & Downs
Who am I
Ain’t no fun
Down 4 my No

Just to name a few!


I didn’t want to get involved in this debate because at the end of the day, we like what we like.
I listen to Jay a lot and I can’t remember half of the track listed and I am (International).

Music is about what appeal to you and what you enjoy, to say Snoop to have bangers is just wrong.

I've excluded Doggystyle because it's a cheat code, Hennessy & Buddah is not a hit, this song is not known outside of the fanbase territory same with Just Dippin and Ups N Downs, they are singles but not internationally known hits and Down 4 My Niggas is known as a C-Murder song. So yeah Jay Z is the Bigger rapper, Snoop is the most popular figure
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1013 on: August 24, 2024, 06:24:22 AM »
fucc outta here... What track does Jay-Z have the level of "Gin and Juice"?

...Hell, just compare Jay-Z first single with Snoop's first single.  Jay bit Dru Down and had to rely on Foxy Brown to turn out "Ain't No Nicca".  Snoop came out with "Who Am I" ("What's My Name") he carried that whole mutherfuckin track

When Jay-Z does a joint like "Murder Was The Case" then we will talk until then shut the fucc up this the dubC forum HOMIE!!!!!!!

Remove Doggystyle out of the equation, what does he have to compete with Jay Z? Let's be real.

 

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« Reply #1014 on: August 24, 2024, 06:57:36 AM »
Remove Doggystyle out of the equation, what does he have to compete with Jay Z? Let's be real.

Everything.
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1015 on: August 24, 2024, 07:57:58 AM »
I have never heard "Loosen Control" on the radio or at a party and it was a single.

My point was based on The solo albums from these two.
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1016 on: August 24, 2024, 08:38:57 AM »
ENCORE
DOA (death Of autotune)
Dirt Off Your Shoulder
Change Clothes
Izzo
Girls Girls Girls
Heart Of The City
Song Cry
03 Bonnie & Clyde
The Watcher 2
Show Me What You Got
I just wanna love you
Roc Boys
I know
Hey Papi
Run This Town
No church in the wild
Otis
Holy Grail
Tom Ford
On The Run
30 something
Lost one
Public Service Announcement

All internationally known hits from all of his albums.

What can Snoop Do?

Snoops Upside Ya Head
Still a G Thang
Bitch Please
Laylow
Beautiful
Drop it like it's hot
Let's Get Blown
SIGNS
Wrong Idea
Sexual Seduction
I wanna rock
Wet
That's That Shit
I wanna Fuck You
Gangsta Luv

I only know 5 of the Jay-Z songs you listed, add big pimpin to it and a bunch of guest appearances I couldn't avoid.
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1017 on: August 24, 2024, 10:57:20 AM »
Remove Doggystyle out of the equation, what does he have to compete with Jay Z? Let's be real.

Drop It Like It's Hot and Beautiful get love here on the eastcoast, but not much else from Snoop's independent albums.
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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1018 on: August 24, 2024, 11:15:39 AM »
Drop It Like It's Hot and Beautiful get love here on the eastcoast, but not much else from Snoop's independent albums.

Exactly what I am saying, and Snoop knows it, hence why he is focusing on the brand rather than music.
 

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Re: SNOOP DOGG - MISSIONARY Produced By Dr. Dre (Coming Soon)
« Reply #1019 on: August 24, 2024, 01:01:04 PM »
Remove Doggystyle out of the equation, what does he have to compete with Jay Z? Let's be real.

Jay-Z doesn’t have any tracks that can fucc with—

“21 Jumpstreet”
“Who got some gangsta shit”
“2 of Americas Most Wanted”
“Never leave me Alone”
“Hooked”
“Bitch Please”
“Buck Um”
“Heat Goes Boom”
“Just Dippin”
“Now We Lay Um Down”
“Next Episode”
“Lay Low”
“Go Away”
“P.I.M.P. Remix”
“Caught Up”
“Smooth”

Any one of them songs destroys Jay-Z’s whole career
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