Dr. Dre "Planets" album project

[Sccit]

Fair point. I do agree. Dont get me wrong, I give Dre props, one of the greatest of all time no doubt.  Its like any artist, when they do things outside to what their fanbase are used to, it doesnt usually do well.

for rappers, sure .. for producers, it's different

that's why dre can drop an eminem or an anderson and they're both a completely different style than the G-Funk we were used to, yet still successful

like timbaland can produce aaliyah or jay-z and it doesn't matter if they're two different styles .. good music is good music

if dre drops brilliant music that isn't g-funk, it will be accepted


do we all want a chronic 3? unequivocally.. but at the end of the day, it comes down to whether the music is great or not

casablanca was ok .. nothing mind blowing, but not bad either .. some people here were really diggin it and some thought it was subpar .. i personally thought it was decent, but not good enough to make noise .. if dre can drop some undeniably great music, that will be the difference .. period

[mtbsm]

for rappers, sure .. for producers, it's different

that's why dre can drop an eminem or an anderson and they're both a completely different style than the G-Funk we were used to, yet still successful

like timbaland can produce aaliyah or jay-z and it doesn't matter if they're two different styles .. good music is good music

if dre drops brilliant music that isn't g-funk, it will be accepted


do we all want a chronic 3? unequivocally.. but at the end of the day, it comes down to whether the music is great or not

casablanca was ok .. nothing mind blowing, but not bad either .. some people here were really diggin it and some thought it was subpar .. i personally thought it was decent, but not good enough to make noise .. if dre can drop some undeniably great music, that will be the difference .. period

what's your gut say? i mean the amount of time the man spends in the studio... plus the unlimited resources of money and access to talent.. and no magic for a long time...feels like it's a wrap.

at a minimum would be nice to see him produce more things front to back..

[Sccit]

what's your gut say? i mean the amount of time the man spends in the studio... plus the unlimited resources of money and access to talent.. and no magic for a long time...feels like it's a wrap.

at a minimum would be nice to see him produce more things front to back..

i do feel like an instrumental project is his last hope to go out wit a bang

but as knocturnal told me, he's a classic overthinker

we'll see

[Soopafly DPGC]

what's your gut say? i mean the amount of time the man spends in the studio... plus the unlimited resources of money and access to talent.. and no magic for a long time...feels like it's a wrap.

at a minimum would be nice to see him produce more things front to back..

You are exactly right.  Dre basically has every rapper at his disposal, anyone would gladly hop on a Dre track for his album.  Dre has the option to work with pretty much any producer in the world he chooses.  He has the most money and most access to any sort of studio or recording technology at his disposal.  There is no reason he shouldn't be making the best music anyone has ever heard. 

Yet we got stuff like Missionary, Cassablanco, The Contract, Someday Has Just Begun, etc. over the last 5 years.  So i do agree, I think it's more of an issue as he's just lost it as a producer.  There really is no other reason why he shouldn't be hitting a home run every time.  Which is fine, doesn't dilute his legacy at all, still one of the best ever.  But dude's getting old, he's had medical issues, personal problems, etc.  But based on all this, it's silly to think he's going to come out with some instrumental album about outer space and it's somehow going to be the most amazing album of his career. 

[O.E.800]

Generally the idea of message boards is to have conversations. At least Sccit makes good points and discussions, even if we dont always agree.

Your juvenile replies about jizz and masturbating and whatever else youre talking about really shows your immaturity and difficulty, based on your intelligence level, to engage in discussions like this. Its no wonder you have no knowledge of the early years of Dre and his career, and thus are unable to contribute anything of substance to the discussion.

Alright dude - you wanna argue from an armchair and smoke your pipe by the fireplace? Let's go.

Your entire historical case rests on a category error. You're treating format failures and context-specific reception as evidence of genre rejection — and they're not the same thing dude.

The Aftermath compilation underperformed because fans wanted a Dre solo album and didn't get one. That's what the people who actually made it said. That's not evidence that fans reject "non-gangster" Dre — it's evidence that fans reject being baited. Different problem entirely dude.

And 'I was there' — where, exactly? Next to a radio with everyone else? Lol. Being a contemporary listener gives you data points, not analytical authority. You're conflating proximity with insight and using it to shut down a conversation instead of advancing one.

But here's where your argument actually collapses under its own weight: you said yourself that deep down Dre was never really a gangster. That the Wrecking Crew was the real him. Well if that's true, then a conceptual instrumental album about outer space made with a theoretical physicist is closer to the authentic Dre than another gangster rap album — not further. You've actually built a case for this project without realizing it lol.

The real argument you're making isn't about Dre at all dude. It's that his fanbase has historically punished him for being himself. That may even be true. But it's an argument against the fanbase's sophistication — not against the project.

You're standing in a room full of people telling you they're excited about this — and you're explaining to them that they won't be. At what point does 'facts and logic' require you to account for the facts directly in front of you?

And not for nothing dude, but "OG" as a title is entirely third-person by nature. It's conferred, not claimed lol. The moment you call yourself an OG — especially in writing, to strangers, in a forum — you've demonstrated a fundamental misunderstanding of what the designation actually means and where its authority comes from. It's socially self-defeating lol. A real OG doesn't need to say it. We're all supposed to accept your self-assessment of your own credibility and defer accordingly? LOL. That's not how credibility works dude. That's how hierarchy demands to work when it can't actually justify itself. The irony is your entire argument revolves around Dre's fanbase rejecting inauthenticity. But you're making that argument inauthentically lol.

[WCEric]

You are exactly right.  Dre basically has every rapper at his disposal, anyone would gladly hop on a Dre track for his album.  Dre has the option to work with pretty much any producer in the world he chooses.  He has the most money and most access to any sort of studio or recording technology at his disposal.  There is no reason he shouldn't be making the best music anyone has ever heard. 

Yet we got stuff like Missionary, Cassablanco, The Contract, Someday Has Just Begun, etc. over the last 5 years.  So i do agree, I think it's more of an issue as he's just lost it as a producer.  There really is no other reason why he shouldn't be hitting a home run every time.  Which is fine, doesn't dilute his legacy at all, still one of the best ever.  But dude's getting old, he's had medical issues, personal problems, etc.  But based on all this, it's silly to think he's going to come out with some instrumental album about outer space and it's somehow going to be the most amazing album of his career.

I'll say this, Dre is trying new things because the Detox sessions have been dead for years - so he's not held up to any musical standard. All the tracks he's done - he's done years in advance - so that's why he's trying for a new sound.

[Soopafly DPGC]

I'll say this, Dre is trying new things because the Detox sessions have been dead for years - so he's not held up to any musical standard. All the tracks he's done - he's done years in advance - so that's why he's trying for a new sound.

That is a very good point. Kind of a starving artist slant to it. He finds the same old gangster rap sound boring and is looking to branch out and challenge himself. That is cool. I think he knows that kind of stuff is not what his traditional fanbase wants. Which is part of why so much of his stuff he shelves.