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Quote from: Shallow on December 23, 2007, 03:35:24 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 23, 2007, 03:30:40 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 23, 2007, 01:45:58 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 09:00:38 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 22, 2007, 04:41:26 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 02:29:01 PMQuote from: Lunatic 63 Is Yellin RIP PIMP C on December 22, 2007, 02:10:31 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 01:35:30 PM then peyton must be a TERRIBLE qb, with his two receivers.i understand the point you're tryna make, but that's not necessarily true. Moss went to N.E already as an established WR, were-as Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and even that Gonzalez kid came to Indy as all rookies and have been molded into top targets.i guess, but bradys won the super bowl wit branch, and givens. i mean stallworth and moss is def. a better combo (not to mention welker is an absolute monster). so sure randy is a factor in brady breakin records, and there 16-0 season, but brady has shown he can win a super bowl and play lik an mvp w/o randy.QBs don't win Superbowls. Teams do. If Brady was on Buffalo all these years he'd have zero Superbowls. Zero playoff wins, and no one would care about him. Everything NE did the past few years could have been done with Bledsoe. No one wants to believe it but it's true. NE would have beaten St. Lous that year with Bledsoe just like they beat The Steelers when Bledsoe came in for Brady in the AFC Championship. Every year NE won they controlled the line on both sides and that is what won them the Superbowls. You control the line and don't make stupid mistakes and you win the game, every time.controlling both sides wins every team their superbowl. brady still deserves mvp though. i think it's safe to say that he has the passing td record (not to jnyx the guy), but how can you break a record like that and not get mvp? i mean i could see if LT played better than he did last year and took it, but no else comes close to brady this year. also, let me ask you guys...if you say moss makes brady, or moss deserves mvp, then tell me how this is by far his best season, and why couldnt moss do this in oakland and make kerry collins or whoever was qb into what moss "made" brady...?I never said Moss. I said Light. The O-line is the best O-line I've ever seen. No one Moss played with before had as much time to throw, giving Moss as much time to get open and to get down field. Take away the strong protection on the blind side and both Moss and Brady look average. Indy did it. Philly did it. and Baltimore did it. They got past Light and then they shut down the offense. Unforunately bad defense at the end and bonehead offense at bad times made all those teams lose. The NE offense was not the reason any of those wins occurred.I think he'll win it. I just judge value on other merits. I really do believe that if Cassel played all season they'd still win their division and still have a first rnd bye. Now they may not have beaten the Colts, but they might have even with Cassel. I do not think the Colts would be above Jacksonville if Sorgi payed all season.My pick for MVP a while back was Favre, but that may have been premature. In the end I don't believe in the award. It's a stupid award that recognizes individual effort in a very team oriented game. QBs get too much credit and too much blame. They are great when the team around them makes plays and terrible when the team around them doesn't. Very lttle to do with them. No one player can really turn around a team just by being on the field. Just because one player gets credit doesn't mean he should get it.i get what your saying, but one thing is confusing me GREATLY...are you trying to say that the MVP of the national football league should go to Matt Light?No, I said his performance on the blind side is as big if not bigger reason for the big pass game than Brady or Moss. No one should be MVP ever. It's never judged faitly. AP gets all this credit for huge numbers as a rookie in Minn, but the other guy gets big plays and big numbers too, and the blockers get no credit. The play calling and a practosing never even enters the equation. You never know just how valuable a player is based on numbers or performance in the NFL.ohh, i see what your saying and that makes alot of sense actually lol. but since there is an mvp, and it will go to a QB, RB, or WR, it will go to brady
Quote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 23, 2007, 03:30:40 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 23, 2007, 01:45:58 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 09:00:38 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 22, 2007, 04:41:26 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 02:29:01 PMQuote from: Lunatic 63 Is Yellin RIP PIMP C on December 22, 2007, 02:10:31 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 01:35:30 PM then peyton must be a TERRIBLE qb, with his two receivers.i understand the point you're tryna make, but that's not necessarily true. Moss went to N.E already as an established WR, were-as Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and even that Gonzalez kid came to Indy as all rookies and have been molded into top targets.i guess, but bradys won the super bowl wit branch, and givens. i mean stallworth and moss is def. a better combo (not to mention welker is an absolute monster). so sure randy is a factor in brady breakin records, and there 16-0 season, but brady has shown he can win a super bowl and play lik an mvp w/o randy.QBs don't win Superbowls. Teams do. If Brady was on Buffalo all these years he'd have zero Superbowls. Zero playoff wins, and no one would care about him. Everything NE did the past few years could have been done with Bledsoe. No one wants to believe it but it's true. NE would have beaten St. Lous that year with Bledsoe just like they beat The Steelers when Bledsoe came in for Brady in the AFC Championship. Every year NE won they controlled the line on both sides and that is what won them the Superbowls. You control the line and don't make stupid mistakes and you win the game, every time.controlling both sides wins every team their superbowl. brady still deserves mvp though. i think it's safe to say that he has the passing td record (not to jnyx the guy), but how can you break a record like that and not get mvp? i mean i could see if LT played better than he did last year and took it, but no else comes close to brady this year. also, let me ask you guys...if you say moss makes brady, or moss deserves mvp, then tell me how this is by far his best season, and why couldnt moss do this in oakland and make kerry collins or whoever was qb into what moss "made" brady...?I never said Moss. I said Light. The O-line is the best O-line I've ever seen. No one Moss played with before had as much time to throw, giving Moss as much time to get open and to get down field. Take away the strong protection on the blind side and both Moss and Brady look average. Indy did it. Philly did it. and Baltimore did it. They got past Light and then they shut down the offense. Unforunately bad defense at the end and bonehead offense at bad times made all those teams lose. The NE offense was not the reason any of those wins occurred.I think he'll win it. I just judge value on other merits. I really do believe that if Cassel played all season they'd still win their division and still have a first rnd bye. Now they may not have beaten the Colts, but they might have even with Cassel. I do not think the Colts would be above Jacksonville if Sorgi payed all season.My pick for MVP a while back was Favre, but that may have been premature. In the end I don't believe in the award. It's a stupid award that recognizes individual effort in a very team oriented game. QBs get too much credit and too much blame. They are great when the team around them makes plays and terrible when the team around them doesn't. Very lttle to do with them. No one player can really turn around a team just by being on the field. Just because one player gets credit doesn't mean he should get it.i get what your saying, but one thing is confusing me GREATLY...are you trying to say that the MVP of the national football league should go to Matt Light?No, I said his performance on the blind side is as big if not bigger reason for the big pass game than Brady or Moss. No one should be MVP ever. It's never judged faitly. AP gets all this credit for huge numbers as a rookie in Minn, but the other guy gets big plays and big numbers too, and the blockers get no credit. The play calling and a practosing never even enters the equation. You never know just how valuable a player is based on numbers or performance in the NFL.
Quote from: Shallow on December 23, 2007, 01:45:58 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 09:00:38 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 22, 2007, 04:41:26 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 02:29:01 PMQuote from: Lunatic 63 Is Yellin RIP PIMP C on December 22, 2007, 02:10:31 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 01:35:30 PM then peyton must be a TERRIBLE qb, with his two receivers.i understand the point you're tryna make, but that's not necessarily true. Moss went to N.E already as an established WR, were-as Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and even that Gonzalez kid came to Indy as all rookies and have been molded into top targets.i guess, but bradys won the super bowl wit branch, and givens. i mean stallworth and moss is def. a better combo (not to mention welker is an absolute monster). so sure randy is a factor in brady breakin records, and there 16-0 season, but brady has shown he can win a super bowl and play lik an mvp w/o randy.QBs don't win Superbowls. Teams do. If Brady was on Buffalo all these years he'd have zero Superbowls. Zero playoff wins, and no one would care about him. Everything NE did the past few years could have been done with Bledsoe. No one wants to believe it but it's true. NE would have beaten St. Lous that year with Bledsoe just like they beat The Steelers when Bledsoe came in for Brady in the AFC Championship. Every year NE won they controlled the line on both sides and that is what won them the Superbowls. You control the line and don't make stupid mistakes and you win the game, every time.controlling both sides wins every team their superbowl. brady still deserves mvp though. i think it's safe to say that he has the passing td record (not to jnyx the guy), but how can you break a record like that and not get mvp? i mean i could see if LT played better than he did last year and took it, but no else comes close to brady this year. also, let me ask you guys...if you say moss makes brady, or moss deserves mvp, then tell me how this is by far his best season, and why couldnt moss do this in oakland and make kerry collins or whoever was qb into what moss "made" brady...?I never said Moss. I said Light. The O-line is the best O-line I've ever seen. No one Moss played with before had as much time to throw, giving Moss as much time to get open and to get down field. Take away the strong protection on the blind side and both Moss and Brady look average. Indy did it. Philly did it. and Baltimore did it. They got past Light and then they shut down the offense. Unforunately bad defense at the end and bonehead offense at bad times made all those teams lose. The NE offense was not the reason any of those wins occurred.I think he'll win it. I just judge value on other merits. I really do believe that if Cassel played all season they'd still win their division and still have a first rnd bye. Now they may not have beaten the Colts, but they might have even with Cassel. I do not think the Colts would be above Jacksonville if Sorgi payed all season.My pick for MVP a while back was Favre, but that may have been premature. In the end I don't believe in the award. It's a stupid award that recognizes individual effort in a very team oriented game. QBs get too much credit and too much blame. They are great when the team around them makes plays and terrible when the team around them doesn't. Very lttle to do with them. No one player can really turn around a team just by being on the field. Just because one player gets credit doesn't mean he should get it.i get what your saying, but one thing is confusing me GREATLY...are you trying to say that the MVP of the national football league should go to Matt Light?
Quote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 09:00:38 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 22, 2007, 04:41:26 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 02:29:01 PMQuote from: Lunatic 63 Is Yellin RIP PIMP C on December 22, 2007, 02:10:31 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 01:35:30 PM then peyton must be a TERRIBLE qb, with his two receivers.i understand the point you're tryna make, but that's not necessarily true. Moss went to N.E already as an established WR, were-as Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and even that Gonzalez kid came to Indy as all rookies and have been molded into top targets.i guess, but bradys won the super bowl wit branch, and givens. i mean stallworth and moss is def. a better combo (not to mention welker is an absolute monster). so sure randy is a factor in brady breakin records, and there 16-0 season, but brady has shown he can win a super bowl and play lik an mvp w/o randy.QBs don't win Superbowls. Teams do. If Brady was on Buffalo all these years he'd have zero Superbowls. Zero playoff wins, and no one would care about him. Everything NE did the past few years could have been done with Bledsoe. No one wants to believe it but it's true. NE would have beaten St. Lous that year with Bledsoe just like they beat The Steelers when Bledsoe came in for Brady in the AFC Championship. Every year NE won they controlled the line on both sides and that is what won them the Superbowls. You control the line and don't make stupid mistakes and you win the game, every time.controlling both sides wins every team their superbowl. brady still deserves mvp though. i think it's safe to say that he has the passing td record (not to jnyx the guy), but how can you break a record like that and not get mvp? i mean i could see if LT played better than he did last year and took it, but no else comes close to brady this year. also, let me ask you guys...if you say moss makes brady, or moss deserves mvp, then tell me how this is by far his best season, and why couldnt moss do this in oakland and make kerry collins or whoever was qb into what moss "made" brady...?I never said Moss. I said Light. The O-line is the best O-line I've ever seen. No one Moss played with before had as much time to throw, giving Moss as much time to get open and to get down field. Take away the strong protection on the blind side and both Moss and Brady look average. Indy did it. Philly did it. and Baltimore did it. They got past Light and then they shut down the offense. Unforunately bad defense at the end and bonehead offense at bad times made all those teams lose. The NE offense was not the reason any of those wins occurred.I think he'll win it. I just judge value on other merits. I really do believe that if Cassel played all season they'd still win their division and still have a first rnd bye. Now they may not have beaten the Colts, but they might have even with Cassel. I do not think the Colts would be above Jacksonville if Sorgi payed all season.My pick for MVP a while back was Favre, but that may have been premature. In the end I don't believe in the award. It's a stupid award that recognizes individual effort in a very team oriented game. QBs get too much credit and too much blame. They are great when the team around them makes plays and terrible when the team around them doesn't. Very lttle to do with them. No one player can really turn around a team just by being on the field. Just because one player gets credit doesn't mean he should get it.
Quote from: Shallow on December 22, 2007, 04:41:26 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 02:29:01 PMQuote from: Lunatic 63 Is Yellin RIP PIMP C on December 22, 2007, 02:10:31 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 01:35:30 PM then peyton must be a TERRIBLE qb, with his two receivers.i understand the point you're tryna make, but that's not necessarily true. Moss went to N.E already as an established WR, were-as Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and even that Gonzalez kid came to Indy as all rookies and have been molded into top targets.i guess, but bradys won the super bowl wit branch, and givens. i mean stallworth and moss is def. a better combo (not to mention welker is an absolute monster). so sure randy is a factor in brady breakin records, and there 16-0 season, but brady has shown he can win a super bowl and play lik an mvp w/o randy.QBs don't win Superbowls. Teams do. If Brady was on Buffalo all these years he'd have zero Superbowls. Zero playoff wins, and no one would care about him. Everything NE did the past few years could have been done with Bledsoe. No one wants to believe it but it's true. NE would have beaten St. Lous that year with Bledsoe just like they beat The Steelers when Bledsoe came in for Brady in the AFC Championship. Every year NE won they controlled the line on both sides and that is what won them the Superbowls. You control the line and don't make stupid mistakes and you win the game, every time.controlling both sides wins every team their superbowl. brady still deserves mvp though. i think it's safe to say that he has the passing td record (not to jnyx the guy), but how can you break a record like that and not get mvp? i mean i could see if LT played better than he did last year and took it, but no else comes close to brady this year. also, let me ask you guys...if you say moss makes brady, or moss deserves mvp, then tell me how this is by far his best season, and why couldnt moss do this in oakland and make kerry collins or whoever was qb into what moss "made" brady...?
Quote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 02:29:01 PMQuote from: Lunatic 63 Is Yellin RIP PIMP C on December 22, 2007, 02:10:31 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 01:35:30 PM then peyton must be a TERRIBLE qb, with his two receivers.i understand the point you're tryna make, but that's not necessarily true. Moss went to N.E already as an established WR, were-as Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and even that Gonzalez kid came to Indy as all rookies and have been molded into top targets.i guess, but bradys won the super bowl wit branch, and givens. i mean stallworth and moss is def. a better combo (not to mention welker is an absolute monster). so sure randy is a factor in brady breakin records, and there 16-0 season, but brady has shown he can win a super bowl and play lik an mvp w/o randy.QBs don't win Superbowls. Teams do. If Brady was on Buffalo all these years he'd have zero Superbowls. Zero playoff wins, and no one would care about him. Everything NE did the past few years could have been done with Bledsoe. No one wants to believe it but it's true. NE would have beaten St. Lous that year with Bledsoe just like they beat The Steelers when Bledsoe came in for Brady in the AFC Championship. Every year NE won they controlled the line on both sides and that is what won them the Superbowls. You control the line and don't make stupid mistakes and you win the game, every time.
Quote from: Lunatic 63 Is Yellin RIP PIMP C on December 22, 2007, 02:10:31 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 01:35:30 PM then peyton must be a TERRIBLE qb, with his two receivers.i understand the point you're tryna make, but that's not necessarily true. Moss went to N.E already as an established WR, were-as Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and even that Gonzalez kid came to Indy as all rookies and have been molded into top targets.i guess, but bradys won the super bowl wit branch, and givens. i mean stallworth and moss is def. a better combo (not to mention welker is an absolute monster). so sure randy is a factor in brady breakin records, and there 16-0 season, but brady has shown he can win a super bowl and play lik an mvp w/o randy.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 01:35:30 PM then peyton must be a TERRIBLE qb, with his two receivers.i understand the point you're tryna make, but that's not necessarily true. Moss went to N.E already as an established WR, were-as Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and even that Gonzalez kid came to Indy as all rookies and have been molded into top targets.
then peyton must be a TERRIBLE qb, with his two receivers.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 23, 2007, 04:51:03 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 23, 2007, 03:35:24 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 23, 2007, 03:30:40 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 23, 2007, 01:45:58 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 09:00:38 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 22, 2007, 04:41:26 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 02:29:01 PMQuote from: Lunatic 63 Is Yellin RIP PIMP C on December 22, 2007, 02:10:31 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click 07 Supporter Of The KJIM on December 22, 2007, 01:35:30 PM then peyton must be a TERRIBLE qb, with his two receivers.i understand the point you're tryna make, but that's not necessarily true. Moss went to N.E already as an established WR, were-as Harrison, Wayne, Clark, and even that Gonzalez kid came to Indy as all rookies and have been molded into top targets.i guess, but bradys won the super bowl wit branch, and givens. i mean stallworth and moss is def. a better combo (not to mention welker is an absolute monster). so sure randy is a factor in brady breakin records, and there 16-0 season, but brady has shown he can win a super bowl and play lik an mvp w/o randy.QBs don't win Superbowls. Teams do. If Brady was on Buffalo all these years he'd have zero Superbowls. Zero playoff wins, and no one would care about him. Everything NE did the past few years could have been done with Bledsoe. No one wants to believe it but it's true. NE would have beaten St. Lous that year with Bledsoe just like they beat The Steelers when Bledsoe came in for Brady in the AFC Championship. Every year NE won they controlled the line on both sides and that is what won them the Superbowls. You control the line and don't make stupid mistakes and you win the game, every time.controlling both sides wins every team their superbowl. brady still deserves mvp though. i think it's safe to say that he has the passing td record (not to jnyx the guy), but how can you break a record like that and not get mvp? i mean i could see if LT played better than he did last year and took it, but no else comes close to brady this year. also, let me ask you guys...if you say moss makes brady, or moss deserves mvp, then tell me how this is by far his best season, and why couldnt moss do this in oakland and make kerry collins or whoever was qb into what moss "made" brady...?I never said Moss. I said Light. The O-line is the best O-line I've ever seen. No one Moss played with before had as much time to throw, giving Moss as much time to get open and to get down field. Take away the strong protection on the blind side and both Moss and Brady look average. Indy did it. Philly did it. and Baltimore did it. They got past Light and then they shut down the offense. Unforunately bad defense at the end and bonehead offense at bad times made all those teams lose. The NE offense was not the reason any of those wins occurred.I think he'll win it. I just judge value on other merits. I really do believe that if Cassel played all season they'd still win their division and still have a first rnd bye. Now they may not have beaten the Colts, but they might have even with Cassel. I do not think the Colts would be above Jacksonville if Sorgi payed all season.My pick for MVP a while back was Favre, but that may have been premature. In the end I don't believe in the award. It's a stupid award that recognizes individual effort in a very team oriented game. QBs get too much credit and too much blame. They are great when the team around them makes plays and terrible when the team around them doesn't. Very lttle to do with them. No one player can really turn around a team just by being on the field. Just because one player gets credit doesn't mean he should get it.i get what your saying, but one thing is confusing me GREATLY...are you trying to say that the MVP of the national football league should go to Matt Light?No, I said his performance on the blind side is as big if not bigger reason for the big pass game than Brady or Moss. No one should be MVP ever. It's never judged faitly. AP gets all this credit for huge numbers as a rookie in Minn, but the other guy gets big plays and big numbers too, and the blockers get no credit. The play calling and a practosing never even enters the equation. You never know just how valuable a player is based on numbers or performance in the NFL.ohh, i see what your saying and that makes alot of sense actually lol. but since there is an mvp, and it will go to a QB, RB, or WR, it will go to brady Of course it's going to go to Brady. If Favre had done even better in the second half then it may have beeen a split like Peyton/McNair that one year. Hey, if Moss breaks Rice's record (evenb though he didn't really) and Brady breaks Manning's then they might split it themselves.
It would only make a second round playoff loss that much more laughable. 2007 PatriotsUndefeated season2 MVPsToo many records broken Blown out by the Jags in the first playoff game.
Quote from: Shallow on December 24, 2007, 09:25:50 AMIt would only make a second round playoff loss that much more laughable. 2007 PatriotsUndefeated season2 MVPsToo many records broken Blown out by the Jags in the first playoff game.Jaguars win 63-20 haha thatd be awesome
Quote from: Hack Wilson on December 24, 2007, 11:56:42 AMQuote from: Shallow on December 24, 2007, 09:25:50 AMIt would only make a second round playoff loss that much more laughable. 2007 PatriotsUndefeated season2 MVPsToo many records broken Blown out by the Jags in the first playoff game.Jaguars win 63-20 haha thatd be awesomeLOL, we said that bout the dolphins, were gunna say it bout the giants, and then all through out the playoffs, but its not gunna happen.
And everyone knows if Harrison was healthy or if even Gonzalez wasn't still green Indy would have beaten them easily that game in week 9. They only lost because of terrible defensive playing at the end.
Quote from: Shallow on December 24, 2007, 02:25:26 PMAnd everyone knows if Harrison was healthy or if even Gonzalez wasn't still green Indy would have beaten them easily that game in week 9. They only lost because of terrible defensive playing at the end. lol
If this happened, if that happened, blah, blah, blah. You can point to any little thing in a close game that could swing the result the other way. Those bullshit PI calls didn't help the Pats and playing in Indy's home didn't either.Indy got outplayed and the better team one, end of story.
Quote from: Knuckles on December 24, 2007, 07:52:29 PMIf this happened, if that happened, blah, blah, blah. You can point to any little thing in a close game that could swing the result the other way. Those bullshit PI calls didn't help the Pats and playing in Indy's home didn't either.Indy got outplayed and the better team one, end of story.you are such a moron.and imo if the Colts are full strength they are better than the Pats, no doubt in my mind.
Take away Moss and Light and Brady wouldn't even have made the pro bowl this year. But he's a QB and everyone likes him, plus the numbers are there so he's going to get it. He's never gotten it before. He's been on 3 Superbowl teams. So they have to give it to him. Given the situation I think any number of QBs could have had similar numbers. You can give anyone from Roethlisberger to Warner to Schaub that much time in the pocket with a WR that can catch poorly thrown pop flies over two DBs and a slot guy that always gets wide open right infront of them and they'll have 40 something TDs too if their coach chose to run up the score on bad teams with pass plays only. You really don't have to be a great QB to play in the situation Brady has played in this year. How many times were te chips really down and Brady had to make a big play. The Pats have been behind a couple times yeah, but in Indy, Indy's D couldn't go 4 quarters. They gave away some big plays at the end. In Philly, Philly threw the ball away at the end. In Baltimore some very bad calls and coaching decisions saved the Pats. Every other game there was no chance of them losing or even needing a QB to win.Randy Moss MVP. With a lot of help from bad DBs not knowing how to swat down flutter balls.
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