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is it that you have a problem with the organizations and not the religions? you can take a beautiful woman or an innocent young girl and turn her into a hooker. you could fill a birthday balloon with poison gas. anything can be corrupted.the fact that religions have been corrupted is not a problem with religion, but with man. this isn't a question of what religion has been corrupted and abused the least. this is a question of what are these religions about? what answers and solutions do they provide? how accurate are they?if you study the teachings of christ; if you study the quran; if you study buddhist philosophy or hindu philosophy/religion...you have not studied anything evil. have you ever seen the movie "american pie"?? look what they did to the pie! man has corrupted apple pie! ofcourse man will corrupt religion, if he has corrupted pie.the problem is not with religion, but with man. i was very skeptical of religion because it is continually used as a tool to oppress and exploit man and people across the world. but if you can separate the evil that man does from the religions themselves, then you can evaluate the religions on their merit; and not on the deeds of their followers.
explain to me the nature of man, the nature of existence, the purpose of life. i'd like to hear your positions on those issues. these are problems that science cannot solve, questions that cannot be answered without religion; without something to fill in the gaps. some people don't care to fill in the gaps, and that's fine. others like to have questions answered. some religions/philosophies provide pretty good answers, imho.
As far as philosophy & doctrine are concerned, alot of the things I got outta Christianity I still use because they make alot of sense to me and I feel they work best for me. I find that a little harder to do with other aspects.
religion is the reason why we are at war
Talking about religion is just a huge waste of time. We can spend all day comparing Fairytale 1 and Fairytale 2, but why would we bother? There are WAY more important matters to discuss.But you really wanna hear what I think? I doubt it, but Imma give it to ya anyway:TRUTH: I exist.OBSERVATIONS: Existence is concrete. Human consciousness is the result of chemical and electrical activities in the brain. Abnormal things are reported, but are to be taken with a grain of salt as most people are just plain stupid. Laws and morality were created by man and should be celebrated as a human achievement. A deity (as far as been shown) had nothing to do with it. A deity probably doesn't exist. If it does, it is probably unconscious OR it is a "universal consciousness" type of deal. Laws are relative, but should be treated as concrete. Chaos is the death of humanity.CONCLUSION: Humans are responsible only to themselves, to others, and the world in which we live in. The God theory is outdated and largely irrelevant. Man is a product of evolution.And that's all she wrote.Now its time to disagree and start quoting verses out of the Bible or Quran. Know what I'm going to hear? BLA BLA BLA BLA.LETS GET IT ON!!!
Talking about religion is just a huge waste of time. We can spend all day comparing Fairytale 1 and Fairytale 2, but why would we bother? There are WAY more important matters to discuss.
But you really wanna hear what I think? I doubt it, but Imma give it to ya anyway:
TRUTH: I exist.
OBSERVATIONS: Existence is concrete. Human consciousness is the result of chemical and electrical activities in the brain. Abnormal things are reported, but are to be taken with a grain of salt as most people are just plain stupid. Laws and morality were created by man and should be celebrated as a human achievement. A deity (as far as been shown) had nothing to do with it. A deity probably doesn't exist. If it does, it is probably unconscious OR it is a "universal consciousness" type of deal. Laws are relative, but should be treated as concrete. Chaos is the death of humanity.
CONCLUSION: Humans are responsible only to themselves, to others, and the world in which we live in. The God theory is outdated and largely irrelevant. Man is a product of evolution.
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^^^ the one that that always had my mind puzzled about islam was the view of evolution. there is an abundance of evidence stating evolution existed. personally i don't believe it because of my faith, but it does make an interesting argument.Your thoughts?
Quote from: h cottie on March 30, 2006, 10:35:03 PM^^^ the one that that always had my mind puzzled about islam was the view of evolution. there is an abundance of evidence stating evolution existed. personally i don't believe it because of my faith, but it does make an interesting argument.Your thoughts?I guess it would depend on how you define evolution. The Qu'ran details a devinely controlled evolution. The Qu'ran is a logical and practical book. It is compatible with science, check these verses from Qu'ran, keeping in mind this book was revealed to man 1400 years ago. Earth is egg shaped (10:24, 39:5, 79:30), earth is not standing still; it moves constantly (27:88), sun is source of light while moon reflects it (10:5, 25:61, 71:16), proportion of oxygen diminishes as we climb towards the sky (6:125), Even the Big-Bang Theory is confirmed in Qu'ran (21:30) The Expansion of the Universe is confirmed (51:47) The universe started out as a gaseous mass (41:11) Evolution is a devinely giuded process (21:30, 24:45, 32:7-9, 18:37, 15:28-29, 7:11, 71:13-14. The man's seminal fluid decides the baby's gender (53:45-46). Life began in water: "From water we initiated all living things." (21:30, 24:45)
but my question was really (sorry to not specify) the evolution of man from ape. is there something that pertains to that? becaus i was unsuccessful in my research
Hey you're basically expanding on what I was trying to say. The purpose of all religions is to be a guideline in people's lives. I got no problem with religious text with the exception of a few things. I've studied pretty much all of the major religions -- Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Mormonism, Judaism -- and they are all inspirational pieces of literature whether you look at them from a religious standpoint or philosophically.
What do I think the nature of man is? The response I learned from church is that we're all sinners and we need Christ as our Savior. My opinion is a little more complex than that. We all have qualities that are seen as bad to the majority of people, greed, lust, pride, and so on. Since I go by the belief that ANYTHING done in excess is bad for you, then anyone who is too greedy, lustful, prideful is doing a disservice to themself. Without these qualities, however, we would probably lack the drive to do anything productive in life and society. So my answer....both. We all have the urge to do good, but we all have the ability to screw up and sin. I don't think you can be either one entirely.
The purpose of life according to the doctrine I grew up with was that we were suppose to witness and minister to as many people as possible. I could go with the scientific explanation and say our purpose is to reproduce, but I don't feel that's all we're here for either. This question kind of stumped me. To be honest, I don't know yet. I'm still young, I'm trying to figure it out myself.
If you haven't noticed, I've become very skeptical towards religion in general. I was one of those die hard dudes that walked the walk and talked the talk until I stopped being a follower and decided to search for some answers without being bias. Now I really don't know what to think, I'm still trying to figure some things out. I believe there's a supreme being, I'm trying to figure out if God really has the attributes of the Christian God I've followed my entire life. As far as philosophy & doctrine are concerned, alot of the things I got outta Christianity I still use because they make alot of sense to me and I feel they work best for me. I find that a little harder to do with other aspects.
I know alot fo what I'm saying may or may not make sense, that's because I'm still trying to figure it all out lol. When I've discussed this to people in person, they all tell me I'm lost and that I need to follow (fill in the religion) because that's the one true way. Now, I just find it hard to believe that this pre-packaged belief is completely correct or right for me personally, no matter which of the major religions that may be.