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Quote from: 360 on June 05, 2009, 04:54:43 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 05, 2009, 04:38:14 PMQuote from: Ted Since `87 on June 05, 2009, 04:35:43 PMI find it amazing how everyone on abc/espn has been calling Kobe "the best player in the world" without hesitation since he made the Finals. They couldn't stop talking about LeBron a week ago. Fuckers.lol, you must not watch ESPN a lot because i heard them say this all year.Laker fans just want to make it seem like the world is against them when ESPN has been giving him praise all year; but they just give LeBron equal & you don't have to tell me, i know that's blasphemous. I don't know man, it seems like the majority of ESPN was saying Lebron was the best for a good portion of the year. I think Kobe's the best by a long shot but I could really care less what analysts think lol.They defiantly gave both players equal respect, but the overall tone defiantly was that they favored LeBron. I didn't really care, but now they are switching their story and acting like they don't even remember LeBron.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 05, 2009, 04:38:14 PMQuote from: Ted Since `87 on June 05, 2009, 04:35:43 PMI find it amazing how everyone on abc/espn has been calling Kobe "the best player in the world" without hesitation since he made the Finals. They couldn't stop talking about LeBron a week ago. Fuckers.lol, you must not watch ESPN a lot because i heard them say this all year.Laker fans just want to make it seem like the world is against them when ESPN has been giving him praise all year; but they just give LeBron equal & you don't have to tell me, i know that's blasphemous. I don't know man, it seems like the majority of ESPN was saying Lebron was the best for a good portion of the year. I think Kobe's the best by a long shot but I could really care less what analysts think lol.
Quote from: Ted Since `87 on June 05, 2009, 04:35:43 PMI find it amazing how everyone on abc/espn has been calling Kobe "the best player in the world" without hesitation since he made the Finals. They couldn't stop talking about LeBron a week ago. Fuckers.lol, you must not watch ESPN a lot because i heard them say this all year.Laker fans just want to make it seem like the world is against them when ESPN has been giving him praise all year; but they just give LeBron equal & you don't have to tell me, i know that's blasphemous.
I find it amazing how everyone on abc/espn has been calling Kobe "the best player in the world" without hesitation since he made the Finals. They couldn't stop talking about LeBron a week ago. Fuckers.
Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 05, 2009, 05:11:55 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 02:37:58 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 05, 2009, 12:57:58 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 05, 2009, 12:48:00 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 12:33:27 PM^that's some female ass shit...I feel bad for dudes who think like that and speak from emotion as opposed to logic. but you speak from you emotions all the time LMAO.you love Kobe; love = emotion.your emotions just make you always speak positively about him.lol NIK cant see it, because he's in love. So he doesnt realize how ridiculous he looks to everyone else. He thinks all these Laker fans (mostly cheerleaders) agree with him, when in reality more of the time they dont. They just dont speak up. A lot of them might think Kobe is better then LeBron, and thats fine. Thats their opinion. But they dont agree with him when he makes idiotic comments about players like Kwame Brown bein the next great thing, or Farmar, or Sasha, or Bynum > Howard lol. What NIK has done over the years, is say the Lakers are the best ALL the time. So that during that one instance (maybe this year) when they are...he can say "i told you so". Completely ignoring the fact that it has been YEARS since anyone could say that.Kobe is by far the best player on the planet and there's nothing ridiculous about that claim. there is, however, something very ridiculous about the overpraise LeBron has received this whole season. The reason people think youre a joke on this forum, is because of this kind of shit lol A huge portion of the basketball world (analysts, media, fans, etc.) say LeBron is the best right now. I think basketball is complex enough that you cant have "one" best player. Only with MJ was there a clear cut "best". There hasnt been since him, and there wasnt before him. There have been groups of players that were the best at different times. But to claim that saying LeBron is the best is ridiculous...when SOOOO many others say he is, only makes your "Kobe is the best" claim look that much more silly.notice how you say "people think" because you wanna feel supported in your arguments against...lol. just speak for yourself, son. Magic was the best of his time, Jordan was the best of his, and Kobe is the best now. Kobe=clear cut best. even the LeBron dickriders are starting to see it again. get with the program.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 02:37:58 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 05, 2009, 12:57:58 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 05, 2009, 12:48:00 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 12:33:27 PM^that's some female ass shit...I feel bad for dudes who think like that and speak from emotion as opposed to logic. but you speak from you emotions all the time LMAO.you love Kobe; love = emotion.your emotions just make you always speak positively about him.lol NIK cant see it, because he's in love. So he doesnt realize how ridiculous he looks to everyone else. He thinks all these Laker fans (mostly cheerleaders) agree with him, when in reality more of the time they dont. They just dont speak up. A lot of them might think Kobe is better then LeBron, and thats fine. Thats their opinion. But they dont agree with him when he makes idiotic comments about players like Kwame Brown bein the next great thing, or Farmar, or Sasha, or Bynum > Howard lol. What NIK has done over the years, is say the Lakers are the best ALL the time. So that during that one instance (maybe this year) when they are...he can say "i told you so". Completely ignoring the fact that it has been YEARS since anyone could say that.Kobe is by far the best player on the planet and there's nothing ridiculous about that claim. there is, however, something very ridiculous about the overpraise LeBron has received this whole season. The reason people think youre a joke on this forum, is because of this kind of shit lol A huge portion of the basketball world (analysts, media, fans, etc.) say LeBron is the best right now. I think basketball is complex enough that you cant have "one" best player. Only with MJ was there a clear cut "best". There hasnt been since him, and there wasnt before him. There have been groups of players that were the best at different times. But to claim that saying LeBron is the best is ridiculous...when SOOOO many others say he is, only makes your "Kobe is the best" claim look that much more silly.
Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 05, 2009, 12:57:58 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 05, 2009, 12:48:00 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 12:33:27 PM^that's some female ass shit...I feel bad for dudes who think like that and speak from emotion as opposed to logic. but you speak from you emotions all the time LMAO.you love Kobe; love = emotion.your emotions just make you always speak positively about him.lol NIK cant see it, because he's in love. So he doesnt realize how ridiculous he looks to everyone else. He thinks all these Laker fans (mostly cheerleaders) agree with him, when in reality more of the time they dont. They just dont speak up. A lot of them might think Kobe is better then LeBron, and thats fine. Thats their opinion. But they dont agree with him when he makes idiotic comments about players like Kwame Brown bein the next great thing, or Farmar, or Sasha, or Bynum > Howard lol. What NIK has done over the years, is say the Lakers are the best ALL the time. So that during that one instance (maybe this year) when they are...he can say "i told you so". Completely ignoring the fact that it has been YEARS since anyone could say that.Kobe is by far the best player on the planet and there's nothing ridiculous about that claim. there is, however, something very ridiculous about the overpraise LeBron has received this whole season.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on June 05, 2009, 12:48:00 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 12:33:27 PM^that's some female ass shit...I feel bad for dudes who think like that and speak from emotion as opposed to logic. but you speak from you emotions all the time LMAO.you love Kobe; love = emotion.your emotions just make you always speak positively about him.lol NIK cant see it, because he's in love. So he doesnt realize how ridiculous he looks to everyone else. He thinks all these Laker fans (mostly cheerleaders) agree with him, when in reality more of the time they dont. They just dont speak up. A lot of them might think Kobe is better then LeBron, and thats fine. Thats their opinion. But they dont agree with him when he makes idiotic comments about players like Kwame Brown bein the next great thing, or Farmar, or Sasha, or Bynum > Howard lol. What NIK has done over the years, is say the Lakers are the best ALL the time. So that during that one instance (maybe this year) when they are...he can say "i told you so". Completely ignoring the fact that it has been YEARS since anyone could say that.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 12:33:27 PM^that's some female ass shit...I feel bad for dudes who think like that and speak from emotion as opposed to logic. but you speak from you emotions all the time LMAO.you love Kobe; love = emotion.your emotions just make you always speak positively about him.
^that's some female ass shit...I feel bad for dudes who think like that and speak from emotion as opposed to logic.
this shit is getting mad old, everyone types the same shit and neither side gives a fuck i suggest everyone just gives up and we leave this Kobe-Lebron shit alone.
Quote from: Ocho on June 05, 2009, 06:17:00 PMthis shit is getting mad old, everyone types the same shit and neither side gives a fuck i suggest everyone just gives up and we leave this Kobe-Lebron shit alone.sounds good. The problem is the main person in the battle, is the Mod...
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine fluQuote from: Laconic on March 16, 2010, 08:21:33 AMTue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cubegbee:@ Petey: you sound like a broken record, time to grow up.
Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cube
daygostylz is retarded, foreal...he doesn't realize we've been over this many times before. i've explained so many times in the past how lebron's hype in the media is mostly over financial purposes, yet he keeps bringing up how the media makes claims of lebron being better. lebron is closer to a carmelo or a wade than he is to a kobe. there is nothing "slow" about that, idiot...the only thing slow is you not getting that the NBA is trying it's hardest to act like lebron is on kobes level so that they can fabricate a rivalry. watch 'em play. lebron has a ways to go before he sees kobe. did u watch the lakers-cleveland matchups? LOL...PeACe
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 08:31:56 PMdaygostylz is retarded, foreal...he doesn't realize we've been over this many times before. i've explained so many times in the past how lebron's hype in the media is mostly over financial purposes, yet he keeps bringing up how the media makes claims of lebron being better. lebron is closer to a carmelo or a wade than he is to a kobe. there is nothing "slow" about that, idiot...the only thing slow is you not getting that the NBA is trying it's hardest to act like lebron is on kobes level so that they can fabricate a rivalry. watch 'em play. lebron has a ways to go before he sees kobe. did u watch the lakers-cleveland matchups? LOL...PeACelol and the government is watching your home....probably tapping your phone so they can set you up. I agree, the media does do this with players. Theyve dont it ever since MJ retired. And they did it with Kobe at one point (sure u didnt complain then). The thing is, like ive said...the media (ESPN included), is always looking for the next MJ. Theyre DYING for the next MJ. And they will ride someone who they think might become that, once they think there is no longer a chance of that happening...they stop riding them. Once they realized Kobe was never going to be the next MJ, they jumped to the next guy. They arent stupid, they dont just pick any old player. They pick players who they see as being great, or potentially great. EVERYone has been raving over LeBron since he hit the league. He's a freak the likes of which the league has just never seen before. He's better then Kobe at this age, he's better then Magic, Bird, Dr J, even MJ...at THIS age. The consensus out there has been, and still is, that LeBron knows how to keep his teammates interested in a game more then Kobe...which is part of why he is looked at as a better leader. This is how things are. You can argue it with your Kobe bias all you want. But like I said, Im not even a fan of LeBron...or Kobe. I just see things from the outside with no bias one way or the other. They can both fail for all I care, it wouldnt matter to me.
Quote from: Denny Crane on June 05, 2009, 10:39:42 AMRight now Kobe Bryant is the best player in the world and there is no doubt about that. What Lebron had to do though this postseason in spite of his teammates pathetic performances was amazing and the guy is only 24 but yeah right now Kobe is still the best. That 3 point play he made early in the 4th qtr last night was beyond special.LOL...flip-floppin is okay when you admit you were wrong. you should apologize for all that bullshit you've talked in the past couple months.
Right now Kobe Bryant is the best player in the world and there is no doubt about that. What Lebron had to do though this postseason in spite of his teammates pathetic performances was amazing and the guy is only 24 but yeah right now Kobe is still the best. That 3 point play he made early in the 4th qtr last night was beyond special.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 05:26:42 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 05, 2009, 05:11:55 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 02:37:58 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 05, 2009, 12:57:58 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on June 05, 2009, 12:48:00 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 05, 2009, 12:33:27 PM^that's some female ass shit...I feel bad for dudes who think like that and speak from emotion as opposed to logic. but you speak from you emotions all the time LMAO.you love Kobe; love = emotion.your emotions just make you always speak positively about him.lol NIK cant see it, because he's in love. So he doesnt realize how ridiculous he looks to everyone else. He thinks all these Laker fans (mostly cheerleaders) agree with him, when in reality more of the time they dont. They just dont speak up. A lot of them might think Kobe is better then LeBron, and thats fine. Thats their opinion. But they dont agree with him when he makes idiotic comments about players like Kwame Brown bein the next great thing, or Farmar, or Sasha, or Bynum > Howard lol. What NIK has done over the years, is say the Lakers are the best ALL the time. So that during that one instance (maybe this year) when they are...he can say "i told you so". Completely ignoring the fact that it has been YEARS since anyone could say that.Kobe is by far the best player on the planet and there's nothing ridiculous about that claim. there is, however, something very ridiculous about the overpraise LeBron has received this whole season. The reason people think youre a joke on this forum, is because of this kind of shit lol A huge portion of the basketball world (analysts, media, fans, etc.) say LeBron is the best right now. I think basketball is complex enough that you cant have "one" best player. Only with MJ was there a clear cut "best". There hasnt been since him, and there wasnt before him. There have been groups of players that were the best at different times. But to claim that saying LeBron is the best is ridiculous...when SOOOO many others say he is, only makes your "Kobe is the best" claim look that much more silly.notice how you say "people think" because you wanna feel supported in your arguments against...lol. just speak for yourself, son. Magic was the best of his time, Jordan was the best of his, and Kobe is the best now. Kobe=clear cut best. even the LeBron dickriders are starting to see it again. get with the program.What he's saying is that with Jordan there was no argument. During the entire 80s it was "Magic or Larry?" and whether you personally think Larry wasn't at the same level (an opinion that would flip flop completely if Larry was the Laker in the argument) isn't the issue. The issue is there was an argument. What was the argument in the 90s? When you say best NBA player of the 90s will any NBA analyst, hardcore fan, player, coach, etc say anyone other than Jordan? The answer is no. In the 80s maybe 95% would say either Magic or Larry with the other 5% maybe saying someone else. Since Jordan if you ask who has been the most valuable player in the league no where near 100% of the people will say Kobe. Shaq would get most of the votes, and then Kobe and Duncan would be debated (yeah big men and guards are different but no one argues "Larry, Magic, or Jabbar?". Best is best and best means most likely to make your team a winner). And today right now, the fact that they even debate LeBron vs Kobe. The fact that you even take time out to debate it. Proves with out any doubt that Kobe is not ahead of the pack the way Jordan in the 90s was.Would a Jordan fan even enter a thread "Jordan vs Barkley" or "Jordan vs Hakeem"? The answer is no. Unless you're just a complete twit. If there was a thread tomorrow about "Who is the greatest Miami Dolphins QB of all time?" all you would see would be two or three posts that say Dan Marino and then the thread would fade away. Because if someone was stupid enough to mention Griese or Morall, a response to those ridiculous claims wouldn't be warranted and the thread would fade away.So just accept it; Kobe will never be seen like Jordan was in the 90s.
My point is still clear M Dogg, as long as you still even have to argue it Kobe is not the current MJ. There was no argument when MJ had the crown. People even argue if he hadn't retired in the first place the Bulls would have had 8 straight titles. I'm not saying Kobe isn't the best right now. I'm saying if he is he isn't as much better than the rest as Jordan was better than the rest. And he also wasn't in the argument as long as Larry and Magic were (not yet anyway). He also isn't yet as much better than the rest as Shaq and Duncan were. If he wins this series the way he won last game then he might be. If he wins next year too then he definitely will be.I don't like comparing Duncan or Shaq then vs Kobe now would lose because I don't know. Would any of the Championship team Spurs lose to this years Lakers? I don't know. They can never play each other. Would Shaq in his prime on this years Magic beat these Lakers? It's not possible to know.But it is possible to judge whether Kobe is considered on top the same way Jordan was, and the result of that as of right now is no he isn't on top the same way.