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The reason I put more effort into listening to it was because 2Pac is a better artist than Crooked I, and I put more thought listening to 2Pac because of that. Crooked I's not a lyricist either. They are both just rappers.
2Pac has emotion and flow in his delivery, if he didn't have that - you wouldn't think of him being a lyricist.
Quote from: Tanner G. on July 18, 2010, 03:15:51 PMThe reason I put more effort into listening to it was because 2Pac is a better artist than Crooked I, and I put more thought listening to 2Pac because of that. Crooked I's not a lyricist either. They are both just rappers.You still haven't explained what you believe a lyricist is, nor named any examples. 2Pac, Ice Cube, Chuck D, names like these are considered some of the finest lyricists in hip hop.
Quote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 18, 2010, 08:25:01 PMQuote from: Tanner G. on July 18, 2010, 03:15:51 PMThe reason I put more effort into listening to it was because 2Pac is a better artist than Crooked I, and I put more thought listening to 2Pac because of that. Crooked I's not a lyricist either. They are both just rappers.You still haven't explained what you believe a lyricist is, nor named any examples. 2Pac, Ice Cube, Chuck D, names like these are considered some of the finest lyricists in hip hop.Nas is a lyricist, Immortal Technique is a lyricist, Joe Budden is a lyricist, those are lyricists. Why? Great word play, great lyrics.
Crooked doin 52 3 minute freestyles is dope and better than jada and nat cuz of what he says on some of the dopest beats and even makes wack songs dope...imo same cant b said bout jada and even nat doin a 8 hour freestyle...crooked leaves u shook and leanin 2 tha side....he gets hatred on another level cuz he dont have a album...but like i said everyone would find somethin or someway 2 hate on him
When Pac has a song like "Exxxes" come see me lol.
What do you want me to say? You're not going to convince me Pac was one of the great lyricists & I'm not going to convince you Crooked I is good at anything; it's pointless argument.I suppose "In My Sleep" is the better Budden song to use anyway; but shit, I love "Exxxes" lol.
Quote from: Tanner G. on July 18, 2010, 11:38:04 PMQuote from: rapsodie is a hip hop elitist on July 18, 2010, 08:25:01 PMQuote from: Tanner G. on July 18, 2010, 03:15:51 PMThe reason I put more effort into listening to it was because 2Pac is a better artist than Crooked I, and I put more thought listening to 2Pac because of that. Crooked I's not a lyricist either. They are both just rappers.You still haven't explained what you believe a lyricist is, nor named any examples. 2Pac, Ice Cube, Chuck D, names like these are considered some of the finest lyricists in hip hop.Nas is a lyricist, Immortal Technique is a lyricist, Joe Budden is a lyricist, those are lyricists. Why? Great word play, great lyrics.Budden and not Pac? Lol. Budden lyrics aren't any harder to understand than Pac. You fail.Immortal Technique only requires more thought because he references political events and situations that his main fanbase (white boys from suburbia) are not familiar with. It's a case of knowledge, not being harder to get. One of his most lyrical songs, Dance With the Devil, is actually quite easy to understand. It's the storytelling and compelling emotions it provokes (along with the shock ending) that make it such a lyrical masterpiece.Nas's style revolves around half-formed thoughts and imagery. Imagine him using that style to make a Dear Mama song or a Keep Your Head Up song. You would come away from those songs not knowing if he loves his mama or what message he's telling women. Those are examples where he'd be a worse lyricist, not better.
You post a definition of lyrical? That's your big thing? Pac isn't regarded as one of the great lyricists, as Tanner said; he's regarded as the greatest rapper.But the Yankees are the greatest Baseball team ever, but that doesn't automatically mean they are the best in every aspect of the game. They don't have the greatest pitching, but they are still the greatest overall. Same goes for Pac. He isn't the greatest lyrically, but he's still the greatest.I didn't say it for shock value, I said it because you OBVIOUSLY overrate Pac in terms of lyrics lmfao.Word play is what makes Crooked lyrical; I don't feel like posting every Hip Hop Weekly for you, so you can Youtube what you like.It's not that Crooked I leaves you re-checking the song to figure out the true meaning; but it's more to think about.I forget the song but Crooked I, ironically enough said "We don't just rhyme words, we did that in kindergarten", where Pac, like Tanner said, just spat what he saw. "I see no changes, all I see is racist faces."; that's just absurdly straight forward lol. Maybe Crooked I isn't as deep, but that doesn't mean he isn't more lyrical with the word play.So like I said, you're not going to convince me Pac was the greatest lyricist & I consider Pac the GOAT & I'm not going to convince you that Crooked I is worthy of winning an argument he's in lmfao.I also don't think Crooked is the greatest lyricst either, but he's more a lyricist than Pac in my eyes. I mean, you're SO fond of thinking Crooked's lack of albums & lack of "deep song" automatically makes him wack everywhere, but you're not convincing me with a little definition & I'm obviously not conving you past your obsession with Crooked lol.