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^^Better than average, but can you at least now admit that it was a bit premature to put him on Kobe's level? I mean, come on, now.
Present Kobe>>>Present Lebron
We could manage without the injuries, but we OBVIOUSLY weren't 100% built to contend. We had no one to run the point! No true big! Before the injuries, we had depth to somewhat compensate for that, but once reality set in, no way..
How many years has Kobe played without Shaq yet? How many of those years did he have an all-star to play alongside?...Now how many years did Shaq play without Kobe? How many of those years did he have an all-star to play alongside? Thank you very much.
WE LOST TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS WITH SHAQ IN THE LEADING ROLE.
In fact, Phil called for the offense to run through Kobe in 03-04, but Shaq couldn't have it. Remember? He wouldn't "play defense or rebound" if the offense didn't run through him... It was time for Shaq to step down and let the offense run through Kobe and he couldn't take it. Too bad you love Shaq too much to see this
The only thing obvious is that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. LMAO@Eddie Jones benefitting from Shaq.
You're a joke, Jake.
Jordan made his teammates better?
JUST ADMIT SHAQ HASN'T DONE SHIT ON HIS OWN.
Yea, because the Lakers wouldn't have had enough money for Kobe with Shaq's selfish ass demands! You tend to fiorget Shaq/ & Kobe pretty much led the way 50/50 in the threepeat years. Shaq never got us shit on his own, and it's a shame that you can't see that.
Just remember, the question was alway "will Shaq retire with no rings?" before Kobe broke into superstar status...PeACe
QuoteWe could manage without the injuries, but we OBVIOUSLY weren't 100% built to contend. We had no one to run the point! No true big! Before the injuries, we had depth to somewhat compensate for that, but once reality set in, no way..so you admit that you and your "one rebound away" theory were WRONG. next point
QuoteHow many years has Kobe played without Shaq yet? How many of those years did he have an all-star to play alongside?...Now how many years did Shaq play without Kobe? How many of those years did he have an all-star to play alongside? Thank you very much. Kobe's playing with Lamar odom,lol dwyane wade's old leader , you even said lamar odom should be an all star. whatever though, Kobe has still had three years to take a bad team to a higher level, shaq did it in three with a much worse team.
QuoteWE LOST TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS WITH SHAQ IN THE LEADING ROLE. and we lost THREE STRAIGHT WITH KOBE.... BUT WORSE . difference being we won titles under shaq leadership and we got out of the first round lol
QuoteIn fact, Phil called for the offense to run through Kobe in 03-04, but Shaq couldn't have it. Remember? He wouldn't "play defense or rebound" if the offense didn't run through him... It was time for Shaq to step down and let the offense run through Kobe and he couldn't take it. Too bad you love Shaq too much to see this.lol yeah and when the offense ran through kobe , the lakers played worse. lol .
QuoteThe only thing obvious is that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. LMAO@Eddie Jones benefitting from Shaq.eddie jones 1995-1996 Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG 95-96 LAL 70 66 31.2 .492 .366 .739 0.6 2.7 3.3 3.5 1.8 0.6 1.41 2.30 12.8 96-97 LAL 80 80 37.5 .438 .391 .819 1.1 3.0 4.1 3.4 2.4 0.6 2.11 2.80 17.2
QuoteYou're a joke, Jake. then you go on to say QuoteJordan made his teammates better? QuoteJUST ADMIT SHAQ HASN'T DONE SHIT ON HIS OWN.four championships6 finals appearances with three different teams2 scoring titles1 olympic gold medal1 FIBA gold medal1 FIBA WORLD MVP14 time all star1 NBA mvp3 finals mvps2 all star mvps1st overall pick in the 1992 draft1 of the 50 greatest players of all time1 of slams greatest basketball players of all time2 time SEC player of the yearNBA rookie of the yearMc Donald's All AmericanNCAA All American1991 naitonal player of the yearLSU hall of famer2 time The Sporting News NBA Most Valuable Player13 time all nba3 time all defensiveall rookie first teamonly player to average at least 20 points and 10 rebounds for 13 straight season2 broken backboards
QuoteYea, because the Lakers wouldn't have had enough money for Kobe with Shaq's selfish ass demands! You tend to fiorget Shaq/ & Kobe pretty much led the way 50/50 in the threepeat years. Shaq never got us shit on his own, and it's a shame that you can't see that.200020012002
Quote Just remember, the question was alway "will Shaq retire with no rings?" before Kobe broke into superstar status...PeACe i give more credit to phil jackson than kobe, but at the end of the day who won all those mvp trophies...lol not kobe
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 07, 2007, 08:29:18 PM^^Better than average, but can you at least now admit that it was a bit premature to put him on Kobe's level? I mean, come on, now.QuotePresent Kobe>>>Present LebronI believe I said that...But regardless, quit bringing Kobe into topics. Let it go. I think Lebron will only get better. He is playing at a phenomenal level for a 22 year old. He probably won't his prime until 25 or 26 and go strong until he's 32 or 33, maybe even 35 or 36. He will only get better.Stay on topic...you are a moderator after all...