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and that's not to say that the OTHER guys on the team are horrible. i just look on the court sometimes and i don't see anything happening, i see lebron at the top of the key and four other cavs posted up stationary either at the three or somewhere away from the play watching lebron. it's the 2006-2007 lakers all over again
Quote from: 7even on May 26, 2009, 11:38:04 AMQuote from: "THE" MoSav on May 26, 2009, 10:17:05 AMmelo>>bron got a problem with Melo? dude cant be stopped and he doesnt turn the ball over in key moments like Lebron
Quote from: "THE" MoSav on May 26, 2009, 10:17:05 AMmelo>>bron
melo>>bron
Lakers in Finals Where is JAMES?
Here we go again ... Lebron has been the best player in these playoffs (though Kobe has been great too) , the numbers he's putting against Orlando are just INSANE ... I have no pb saying Lebron >>> Kobe because all I care about is my team the LA Lakers , not defending Kobe legacy or whatever ...I think everybody , Lakers ( more likely " Kobe " fans ? ) fans and others B-Ball fans need just to stop bringing this , there are a lot of more to discuss than Kobe and Lebron in these playoffs and in B-Ball in general ... and as great as they have played so far , they both need the rest of their team to step it up to win ..
Being in the finals 2000,2001,2002,2004,2008,2009>>>>>>>>>>>>>being in the finals just 2007
^i feel with what your saying, but i still have to stand by my thoughts on your team shouldn't decide how good you are.i'd label Iverson as one of the best, for those who don't agree you can say Karl Malone.no rings, but still both are concidered two of the best.btw, that's a dope article.
Stats at 24 for both Kobe and LeBron02-03 KobeGSP: 82 MPG: 41 FGP: .451 3p%: .383 RPG: 6.9 APG: 5.9 SPG: 2.2 PPG: 30.008-09 LeBronGSP: 81 MPG: 37.7 FGP: .489 3p%: .344 RPG: 7.9 APG: 7.2 SPG: 1.7 PPG: 28.4
Quote from: M Dogg on May 30, 2009, 01:13:25 PMStats at 24 for both Kobe and LeBron02-03 KobeGSP: 82 MPG: 41 FGP: .451 3p%: .383 RPG: 6.9 APG: 5.9 SPG: 2.2 PPG: 30.008-09 LeBronGSP: 81 MPG: 37.7 FGP: .489 3p%: .344 RPG: 7.9 APG: 7.2 SPG: 1.7 PPG: 28.4i'll take the higher FGP with more rebounds & assists with 2 less PPG in less time played. who wouldn't?
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 30, 2009, 02:14:46 PMQuote from: M Dogg on May 30, 2009, 01:13:25 PMStats at 24 for both Kobe and LeBron02-03 KobeGSP: 82 MPG: 41 FGP: .451 3p%: .383 RPG: 6.9 APG: 5.9 SPG: 2.2 PPG: 30.008-09 LeBronGSP: 81 MPG: 37.7 FGP: .489 3p%: .344 RPG: 7.9 APG: 7.2 SPG: 1.7 PPG: 28.4i'll take the higher FGP with more rebounds & assists with 2 less PPG in less time played. who wouldn't?Though Shaq was taking up most the rebounds and the triangle evens out the assist, which is why even though Kobe has his high distributing games, he gets lower assist than LeBron because of that extra pass the triangle calls for. And it's not that much higher of a FG%
Quote from: M Dogg on May 30, 2009, 02:41:52 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on May 30, 2009, 02:14:46 PMQuote from: M Dogg on May 30, 2009, 01:13:25 PMStats at 24 for both Kobe and LeBron02-03 KobeGSP: 82 MPG: 41 FGP: .451 3p%: .383 RPG: 6.9 APG: 5.9 SPG: 2.2 PPG: 30.008-09 LeBronGSP: 81 MPG: 37.7 FGP: .489 3p%: .344 RPG: 7.9 APG: 7.2 SPG: 1.7 PPG: 28.4i'll take the higher FGP with more rebounds & assists with 2 less PPG in less time played. who wouldn't?Though Shaq was taking up most the rebounds and the triangle evens out the assist, which is why even though Kobe has his high distributing games, he gets lower assist than LeBron because of that extra pass the triangle calls for. And it's not that much higher of a FG%well what is much more?i mean you being a Lakers fan, i know you didn't post these stats for LeBron's sake lol.
Quote from: PLANT on May 29, 2009, 03:03:31 PMQuote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 29, 2009, 03:00:45 PMQuote from: PLANT on May 29, 2009, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on May 29, 2009, 02:12:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on May 28, 2009, 03:54:02 PM^why's that?!? that's what i still don't get, i didn't understand it from the first time the "Kobe vs. LeBron" arguement was raised.just because the Lakers do better that means Kobe > LeBron?yeah sure Lakers > Cavs, i don't know many who would disagree that; but what does that have to do with Kobe or LeBron?lets say the Lakers take there series & the Cavs pull a miracle comeback, would you say Bynum > Dwight because the Lakers went farther?if anyone is really that deep into denial where they think if the Cavs sat LeBron & the Lakers sat Kobe & the two teams played & you honestly thought the Cavs stood a chance, your nuts.i would bet over a thousand dollars on the Lakers (w/o Kobe) against the Cavs (w/o LeBron); fact is LeBron does more than Kobe with less help around him.it has nothing to do with who wins rings & shit; otherwise i guess Robert Horry is one of the best PF's ever lmao. leading your team to a championship is the ultimate accomplishment...if LeBron cant do it, then he's no Kobe. end of story.well since SHAQ lead the Lakers to those titles....am I missing something? Has Kobe lead anyone to a title yet on his own? What LeBron is doing is far more impressive than anything Kobe has done in the post Shaq era.not to mention, youre typically hearing over and over how Kobe has the better supporting cast. LeBron just knows how to get his teammates into the game better then Kobe does. They play better defense....why? Cus theyre involved in the offense lolexactlythe thing is, you know how Kobe gets others involved? He just shoots less lol. His assists still arent impressive...he just shoots less lol LeBron is that guy who can score 40...but still put up 10+ assists.
Quote from: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on May 29, 2009, 03:00:45 PMQuote from: PLANT on May 29, 2009, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on May 29, 2009, 02:12:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on May 28, 2009, 03:54:02 PM^why's that?!? that's what i still don't get, i didn't understand it from the first time the "Kobe vs. LeBron" arguement was raised.just because the Lakers do better that means Kobe > LeBron?yeah sure Lakers > Cavs, i don't know many who would disagree that; but what does that have to do with Kobe or LeBron?lets say the Lakers take there series & the Cavs pull a miracle comeback, would you say Bynum > Dwight because the Lakers went farther?if anyone is really that deep into denial where they think if the Cavs sat LeBron & the Lakers sat Kobe & the two teams played & you honestly thought the Cavs stood a chance, your nuts.i would bet over a thousand dollars on the Lakers (w/o Kobe) against the Cavs (w/o LeBron); fact is LeBron does more than Kobe with less help around him.it has nothing to do with who wins rings & shit; otherwise i guess Robert Horry is one of the best PF's ever lmao. leading your team to a championship is the ultimate accomplishment...if LeBron cant do it, then he's no Kobe. end of story.well since SHAQ lead the Lakers to those titles....am I missing something? Has Kobe lead anyone to a title yet on his own? What LeBron is doing is far more impressive than anything Kobe has done in the post Shaq era.not to mention, youre typically hearing over and over how Kobe has the better supporting cast. LeBron just knows how to get his teammates into the game better then Kobe does. They play better defense....why? Cus theyre involved in the offense lolexactly
Quote from: PLANT on May 29, 2009, 02:56:03 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on May 29, 2009, 02:12:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on May 28, 2009, 03:54:02 PM^why's that?!? that's what i still don't get, i didn't understand it from the first time the "Kobe vs. LeBron" arguement was raised.just because the Lakers do better that means Kobe > LeBron?yeah sure Lakers > Cavs, i don't know many who would disagree that; but what does that have to do with Kobe or LeBron?lets say the Lakers take there series & the Cavs pull a miracle comeback, would you say Bynum > Dwight because the Lakers went farther?if anyone is really that deep into denial where they think if the Cavs sat LeBron & the Lakers sat Kobe & the two teams played & you honestly thought the Cavs stood a chance, your nuts.i would bet over a thousand dollars on the Lakers (w/o Kobe) against the Cavs (w/o LeBron); fact is LeBron does more than Kobe with less help around him.it has nothing to do with who wins rings & shit; otherwise i guess Robert Horry is one of the best PF's ever lmao. leading your team to a championship is the ultimate accomplishment...if LeBron cant do it, then he's no Kobe. end of story.well since SHAQ lead the Lakers to those titles....am I missing something? Has Kobe lead anyone to a title yet on his own? What LeBron is doing is far more impressive than anything Kobe has done in the post Shaq era.not to mention, youre typically hearing over and over how Kobe has the better supporting cast. LeBron just knows how to get his teammates into the game better then Kobe does. They play better defense....why? Cus theyre involved in the offense lol
Quote from: Now_I_Know on May 29, 2009, 02:12:50 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on May 28, 2009, 03:54:02 PM^why's that?!? that's what i still don't get, i didn't understand it from the first time the "Kobe vs. LeBron" arguement was raised.just because the Lakers do better that means Kobe > LeBron?yeah sure Lakers > Cavs, i don't know many who would disagree that; but what does that have to do with Kobe or LeBron?lets say the Lakers take there series & the Cavs pull a miracle comeback, would you say Bynum > Dwight because the Lakers went farther?if anyone is really that deep into denial where they think if the Cavs sat LeBron & the Lakers sat Kobe & the two teams played & you honestly thought the Cavs stood a chance, your nuts.i would bet over a thousand dollars on the Lakers (w/o Kobe) against the Cavs (w/o LeBron); fact is LeBron does more than Kobe with less help around him.it has nothing to do with who wins rings & shit; otherwise i guess Robert Horry is one of the best PF's ever lmao. leading your team to a championship is the ultimate accomplishment...if LeBron cant do it, then he's no Kobe. end of story.well since SHAQ lead the Lakers to those titles....am I missing something? Has Kobe lead anyone to a title yet on his own? What LeBron is doing is far more impressive than anything Kobe has done in the post Shaq era.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 28, 2009, 03:54:02 PM^why's that?!? that's what i still don't get, i didn't understand it from the first time the "Kobe vs. LeBron" arguement was raised.just because the Lakers do better that means Kobe > LeBron?yeah sure Lakers > Cavs, i don't know many who would disagree that; but what does that have to do with Kobe or LeBron?lets say the Lakers take there series & the Cavs pull a miracle comeback, would you say Bynum > Dwight because the Lakers went farther?if anyone is really that deep into denial where they think if the Cavs sat LeBron & the Lakers sat Kobe & the two teams played & you honestly thought the Cavs stood a chance, your nuts.i would bet over a thousand dollars on the Lakers (w/o Kobe) against the Cavs (w/o LeBron); fact is LeBron does more than Kobe with less help around him.it has nothing to do with who wins rings & shit; otherwise i guess Robert Horry is one of the best PF's ever lmao. leading your team to a championship is the ultimate accomplishment...if LeBron cant do it, then he's no Kobe. end of story.
^why's that?!? that's what i still don't get, i didn't understand it from the first time the "Kobe vs. LeBron" arguement was raised.just because the Lakers do better that means Kobe > LeBron?yeah sure Lakers > Cavs, i don't know many who would disagree that; but what does that have to do with Kobe or LeBron?lets say the Lakers take there series & the Cavs pull a miracle comeback, would you say Bynum > Dwight because the Lakers went farther?if anyone is really that deep into denial where they think if the Cavs sat LeBron & the Lakers sat Kobe & the two teams played & you honestly thought the Cavs stood a chance, your nuts.i would bet over a thousand dollars on the Lakers (w/o Kobe) against the Cavs (w/o LeBron); fact is LeBron does more than Kobe with less help around him.it has nothing to do with who wins rings & shit; otherwise i guess Robert Horry is one of the best PF's ever lmao.