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Dr. dre is on the second team....so what he needs to do is form a group so that folks forget about his solo stuff and think about him as being in a group.....him with 3 other dudes that is what he needs to do.....otherwise I am not really feeling the dude.
And he still remains relevant. The people who like the new song are listening and it's doing well and those who hate it seem to be flooding this forum with their armchair A&R/executive theories about how the "young kids" aren''t feeling his music like they have their fucking fingers on the pulse of the youth market.
It's still his project though. He's making the decision to put that record out so if it fails or succeeds, it's on him. You can put whatever asteriks you want next to whoever's name but if their name is still being mentioned in regards to a record that is succesful, they are relevant. It's like this.. He could put out an entire album of songs other people produced and throw "Dr. Dre Presents" on the title and if it sells, his name is still money. If it bombs, it ain't.
I was talking about his relevance as a producer who puts out hits, not as a "rapper" who puts out albums. Because that has never really been his focus. What separates Dre from a Suge Knight type of character is his involvement in the music. If he's not involved in the production of the music, then to me he's just another Puffy.
When you think of "super producers" or artist-producers, there's nobody that mixes his longevity, success, influence, and all-around track record. Nobody. You might have younger guys who make better beats in the lab but they aren't better producers.
His name isn't on it, hence he had no involvement in the production. Simple logic, yes?
And why are you bringing up Jimmy? I haven't mentioned him once.
Legacy-wise? Yes. He's in my top 3 as far as hip hop producers of all time go. But I'm talking about the here and now. There's many producers I'd put over Dre right now. I know the difference between a beatmaker and a producer. But when Dre produces a song, his name is on it as the main producer, regardless if someone else made the beat or not. His name wasn't on Kush or I Need a Doctor, and even if it was it still wouldn't say much for if he "still has it".
Quote from: THE RAPTURE on February 25, 2011, 10:32:43 PMHis name isn't on it, hence he had no involvement in the production. Simple logic, yes? Just because he wasn't the credited producer does not mean he had no involvement in the production.
lets hear Detox album first before we say he get back on tracknot based on a couple songs he didn't even produce