Best West Coast Alternative Hip-Hop Song

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

IMO... there is NO question that in the history of West Coast rap,it has produced better gangster rap than alternative rap.

We'll have to disagree then. Both genres have produced some amazing albums. The only difference is that gangsta rap got more publicity.

Is the current (West Coast) gangster rap scene better than the alternative scene?
Hard to say,both has released dope shit... IMO they're pretty equal in 200+
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Name some dope gangsta rap artists or albums from the last few years, preferably some who have dropped albums.

[westside159]

MC Eiht - Lunatic    Good Alternative rap song ...    N My Neighborhood CD

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Is the current (West Coast) gangster rap scene better than the alternative scene?
Hard to say,both has released dope shit... IMO they're pretty equal in 200+

Name some dope gangsta rap artists or albums from the last few years, preferably some who have dropped albums.

[westside159]

MC Eiht - Lunatic    Good Alternative rap song ...    N My Neighborhood CD

 

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

 

[Chad Vader]

On topic

IMO... there is NO question that in the history of West Coast rap,it has produced better gangster rap than alternative rap.

We'll have to disagree then. Both genres have produced some amazing albums. The only difference is that gangstaer rap got more publicity.

Yes... But IMO the alternative scene can't compete with the number of dope albums coming out of for example;
-The NWA/DPG family
-Dangerous crew
-Young Black Brotha

Is the current (West Coast) gangster rap scene better than the alternative scene?
Hard to say,both has released dope shit... IMO they're pretty equal in 200+

Name some dope gangstaer rap artists or albums from the last few years, preferably some who have dropped albums.

On top of my head;
-WCīs last album is tight.
-Young Maylay. No album,but two mixtapes/street albums that shit on everything out there. (Young Maylay; The Real Coast Guard reviews)

-Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo... yes they released plenty of albums. 
In case you ain't heard their shit;
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>
and;
Two dope Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo tracks 

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

On topic

IMO... there is NO question that in the history of West Coast rap,it has produced better gangster rap than alternative rap.

We'll have to disagree then. Both genres have produced some amazing albums. The only difference is that gangstaer rap got more publicity.

Yes... But IMO the alternative scene can't compete with the number of dope albums coming out of for example;
-The NWA/DPG family
-Dangerous crew
-Young Black Brotha

Hieroglyphics crew, Freestyle Fellowship, Living Legends....three big collectives who put out tons of dope music during the 90s.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

On top of my head;
-WCīs last album is tight.
-Young Maylay. No album,but two mixtapes/street albums that shit on everything out there. (Young Maylay; The Real Coast Guard reviews)

-Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo... yes they released plenty of albums.  
In case you ain't heard their shit;
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>
and;
Two dope Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo tracks  

Just 2 notable albums? And one is from two years ago. Do you get the point I'm making about modern gangsta rap?

[westside159]

MC Eiht - Lunatic    Good Alternative rap song ...    N My Neighborhood CD

Whos afraid of the big black wolf , spittin ,  keeps hittin from the top of the roof "  Geeah

[Chad Vader]

On topic

IMO... there is NO question that in the history of West Coast rap,it has produced better gangster rap than alternative rap.

We'll have to disagree then. Both genres have produced some amazing albums. The only difference is that gangstaer rap got more publicity.

Yes... But IMO the alternative scene can't compete with the number of dope albums coming out of for example;
-The NWA/DPG family
-Dangerous crew
-Young Black Brotha

Hieroglyphics crew, Freestyle Fellowship, Living Legends....three big collectives who put out tons of dope music during the 90s.

Yes
but I said;
number of albums,not that there ainīt dope albums  

On top of my head;
-WCīs last album is tight.
-Young Maylay. No album,but two mixtapes/street albums that shit on everything out there. (Young Maylay; The Real Coast Guard reviews)

-Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo... yes they released plenty of albums.  
In case you ain't heard their shit;
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>
and;
Two dope Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo tracks  

Just 2 notable albums? And one is from two years ago. Do you get the point I'm making about modern gangstaer rap?

Where did you get that number from?
one more time;

On top of my head;
-WCīs last album is tight.
-Young Maylay. No album,but two mixtapes/street albums that shit on everything out there. (Young Maylay; The Real Coast Guard reviews)

Lets add Maylays first mixtape/album  .
And take note off; On top of my head;
Related link; 
Vader's favorite albums in 2008

-Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo... yes they released plenty of albums.  
In case you ain't heard their shit;
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>
and;
Two dope Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo tracks  

Mob Figaz is group and collective of MCīs. The three tracks above appears on 3 individual albums.
That equals 4 albums and 1 street album (2 if you count the one I added).  

Where is all those dope alternative rap retail albums?

Related links;
Vader's favorite albums in 2008
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Vader's Top 10 Albums Of All Time (2009 Edition)
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The top selling album of 2008

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

On topic

IMO... there is NO question that in the history of West Coast rap,it has produced better gangster rap than alternative rap.

We'll have to disagree then. Both genres have produced some amazing albums. The only difference is that gangstaer rap got more publicity.

Yes... But IMO the alternative scene can't compete with the number of dope albums coming out of for example;
-The NWA/DPG family
-Dangerous crew
-Young Black Brotha

Hieroglyphics crew, Freestyle Fellowship, Living Legends....three big collectives who put out tons of dope music during the 90s.

Yes
but I said;
number of albums,not that there ainīt dope albums  

Take a look again. Each of those crews are huge and have released a ton of albums, group albums, each have their solo albums, side projects, etc etc. At least as many as, if not more than the groups you mentioned. And these are just three collectives out of the entire west coast alternative underground scene. I think you underestimate the amount of music coming out on the indie rap scene, as a lot of it slips under the radar.

On top of my head;
-WCīs last album is tight.
-Young Maylay. No album,but two mixtapes/street albums that shit on everything out there. (Young Maylay; The Real Coast Guard reviews)

-Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo... yes they released plenty of albums.  
In case you ain't heard their shit;
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>
and;
Two dope Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo tracks  

Just 2 notable albums? And one is from two years ago. Do you get the point I'm making about modern gangstaer rap?

Where did you get that number from?
one more time;

On top of my head;
-WCīs last album is tight.
-Young Maylay. No album,but two mixtapes/street albums that shit on everything out there. (Young Maylay; The Real Coast Guard reviews)

Lets add Maylays first mixtape/album  .
And take note off; On top of my head;
Related link;  
Vader's favorite albums in 2008

-Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo... yes they released plenty of albums.  
In case you ain't heard their shit;
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>
and;
Two dope Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo tracks  

Mob Figaz is group and collective of MCīs. The three tracks above appears on 3 individual albums.
That equals 4 albums and 1 street album (2 if you count the one I added).  

I got two from W.C. and the Jacka's last albums. I don't listen to anyone else from Mob Figaz. Really, you're going to include mixtapes? That's a sign in itself that west coast gangsta rap is suffering.

Where is all those dope alternative rap retail albums?

from 2009....

Rejuvenation - Abstract Rude
Aceyalone and the Lonely Ones
Jhelli Beam - Busdriver
Parallel Universes - Del tha Funkee Homosapien and Tame One
1969 - Myka 9
Invisible Man - Superstar Quamallah
Say G & E - Eligh and the Grouch
The Takeover - Zion I

to name a few....none of them mixtapes

 

And dude, the link you posted has 5 albums on it that you like, only 2 of them gangsta rap albums.

[Chad Vader]

On topic

IMO... there is NO question that in the history of West Coast rap,it has produced better gangster rap than alternative rap.

We'll have to disagree then. Both genres have produced some amazing albums. The only difference is that gangstaer rap got more publicity.

Yes... But IMO the alternative scene can't compete with the number of dope albums coming out of for example;
-The NWA/DPG family
-Dangerous crew
-Young Black Brotha

Hieroglyphics crew, Freestyle Fellowship, Living Legends....three big collectives who put out tons of dope music during the 90s.

Yes
but I said;
number of albums,not that there ain't dope albums  

Take a look again. Each of those crews are huge and have released a ton of albums, group albums, each have their solo albums, side projects, etc etc.
At least as many as, if not more than the groups you mentioned. And these are just three collectives out of the entire west coast alternative underground scene.
I think you underestimate the amount of music coming out on the indie alternative rap scene, as a lot of it slips under the radar.

You take a look again. The NWA/DPG family has released more,better and groundbreaking albums than the whole alternative scene alone  .

NWA family tree (Rap Pages February 1998)

On top of my head;
-WCīs last album is tight.
-Young Maylay. No album,but two mixtapes/street albums that shit on everything out there. (Young Maylay; The Real Coast Guard reviews)

-Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo... yes they released plenty of albums.  
In case you ain't heard their shit;
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>
and;
Two dope Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo tracks  

Just 2 notable albums? And one is from two years ago. Do you get the point I'm making about modern gangstaer rap?

Where did you get that number from?
one more time;

On top of my head;
-WCīs last album is tight.
-Young Maylay. No album,but two mixtapes/street albums that shit on everything out there. (Young Maylay; The Real Coast Guard reviews)

Lets add Maylays first mixtape/album  .
And take note off; On top of my head;
Related link;  
Vader's favorite albums in 2008

-Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo... yes they released plenty of albums.  
In case you ain't heard their shit;
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/EIeYmph_sUg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>
and;
Two dope Mob Figaz/The Jacka/Rob lo tracks  

Mob Figaz is group and collective of MCīs. The three tracks above appears on 3 individual albums.
That equals 4 albums and 1 street album (2 if you count the one I added).  

I got two from W.C. and the Jacka's last albums. I don't listen to anyone else from Mob Figaz.
Really, you're going to include mixtapes? That's a sign in itself that west coast gangsta rap is suffering.

Why? Fuck retail albums...

Where is all those dope alternative rap retail albums?

from 2009....

Rejuvenation - Abstract Rude
Aceyalone and the Lonely Ones
Jhelli Beam - Busdriver
Parallel Universes - Del tha Funkee Homosapien and Tame One
1969 - Myka 9
Invisible Man - Superstar Quamallah
Say G & E - Eligh and the Grouch
The Takeover - Zion I

to name a few....none of them mixtapes

 

And dude, the link you posted has 5 albums on it that you like, only 2 of them gangsta rap albums.

Again.. it was my favorites from top of my head.
Hereīs my 2008 and 2009 list so far.... a little more than 5 right? 

2009

Ratings roughly based on how many tracks I kept from each album.


Bay Area;
-The Jacka Tear Gas; 3.5/5
-T-Kash Brains All Over The Streets; 3.5/5
-ap9 I Am Legend; 3/5
-Mac Mall; Mac To The Future; 3/5
-Rich The Factor; Bucks Over Fame 2.5/5
-Yukmouth; The West Coast Don 2.5/5
-Reek Daddy; Super Thug 2.5/5
-Ray Luv; Death Wish 2.5/5
-P.S.D.; A Star Iz Born 2.5/5
-Guce; Giants & Elephants; 3/5
-Extreme; 25 Hours A Day; 3/5
-Del; Funk Man the stimulus package; 2.5/5
-The Conscious Daughters; The Nutcracker Suite; 2.5/5
-Brotha Lynch Hung; Suspicion V.2 2.5/5
-Brotha Lynch Hung; The Gas Station Mixtape; 3/5
-Big Lou; Mob Affiliated 2.5/5


LA;
-Tash; Control Freek; 3/5
-Spider Loc; Land of the lost Street Album; 3/5
-Spider Loc: King Of RnB 3 2/5
-Souls in Chains; Rebellious of the Sunrise 2/5
-Rome; My Demo; 3.5/5
-RBX; X2: The Digital Kush; 2.5/5
-Randam Luck; Graveyard Shift 3/5
-Magnificent Ruffians; Elevated Ruffians; 4/5
-Kam; PRESENTS FRUIT-PRUNO ; 3/5
-J.Wells; Digital Master vol 2.1; 2.5/5
-Inverse; So True EP; 3/5
-Hopsin: Haywire; 3.5/5
-Glasses Malone; Glasses Malone Presents monster's InK ; 3/5
-Kurupt; Tha Penagon, Vol. 1; 3/5
-Daz: Public Enemiez; 2.5/5
-Soopafly; Gotta Get This Money; 3/5
-quik/kurupt Blacqout; 3/5
-soul assasins; 3.5/5
-Taje; Hot Box 3; 3.5/5
-Omar Cruz; Hand of cruz; 3.5/5
-Warren G; 2.5/5
-Cypress Hill; Smoke N Mirrors; 3.5/5
-Crooked I; Slaughterhouse 3.5/5
-Bigg Steele; Pinky Ring Muzic 3/5
-big keboe (the hefe);  international hefe with 8starz ; 3/5
-Alchemist; Chemical Warfare; 3/5

NYC
-Raekwon ONQL2; 3.5/5
-X-Clan; Mainstream Outlawz; 3.5/5
-U God; Dopium 3/5
-Killah Priest; i Killed The Devil Last Night; 3/5
-Wu Tang Clan; Chamber Music 3/5
-Kool Keith; Tashan Dorrset 2.5/5
-Kool Keith; Present Project X 2.5/5
-Trife Diesel; Better Late Than Never 3/5
-Smif N Wessun; Welcome To Bucktown; 3/5
-Screwball; Blaq Out; 3/5
-Reks; More Grey Hairs 3/5
-Poison Pen; The Money Shot 2.5/5
-Nine; Quinine; 3/5
-Mobb Deep; The Safe Is Cracked; 3/5
-MF Doom; Born Like This; 3/5
-Method Man And Redman; Blackout! 2; 3/5
-Marco Polo & Torae; Double Barrel 3/5
-Maino; If Tomorrow Comes; 2.5/5
-M.O.P.; Searchin 4 Fame (Promo); 3/5
-Kenn Starr; It's Still Real...; 3/5
-Joe Budden; Padded Room; 3.5/5
-Jadakiss; The Last Kiss; 2.5/5
-Ja-Rule; The Mirror 2.5/5
-Hell Rell; Hell Up In The Bronx 3/5
-50 Cent; War Angel LP; 3/5
-50 Cent; Forever King; 2.5/5
-Frukwan-Sun Star; Greatness 3.5/5
-Fat Joe Jealous Ones Still Envy 2 (J.O.S.E. 2); 2/5
-Dub MD & Junclassic; Southside's Savior 3.5/5
-Dead Prez; Pulse Of The People (Turn Off The Radio Vol. 3); 3/5
-D-Block; No Security 2.5/5
-Chubb Rock & Wordsmith; Bridging The Gap 2.5/5
-Camp Lo; Stone And Rob: Caught On Tape 3/5
-Breez Evahflowin; Breez Deez Treez; 3/5
-Bathgate; Harlem Born Harlem Money 3/5
-Jay-Z Blueprint 3: 1.5/5
-Ghostface; 1.5/5
-KRS and Buckshot; 3.8/5


South;
-Willy Northpole; Tha Connect 2.5/5
-UGK; UGK 4 Life; 3.5/5
-Trae; The Diary 3/5
-Tha Realest; Witness Tha Realest; 3.5/5
-Stat Quo; The Invisible Man; 3/5
-Stat Quo; Checks & Balance 3.5/5
-Sol.illaquists Of Sound; No More Heroes 2.5/5
-Pastor Troy; Love Me Hate Me 1.5/5
-Mike Jones; The Voice 1.5/5
-Mddl Fngz; Smokin Wit Tha Enemy; 3/5
-Lord Infamous, T-Rock & II Tone; Blood Money 2/5
-Lil Keke; Seven-1-3 Vol. 2-Small Thangs To A Giant; 3/5
-Haystak; The Natural II; not available yet
-Gillie Da Kid; I Am Philly 1.5/5
-E.S.G; Digital Dope (The Reintroduction) 2/5
-Drake; Room For Improvement; 2.5/5
-Drake; Congratulations (The Prelude To Thank Me Later) 1.5/5
-Dorrough; Dorrough Music 1.5/5
-Cunninlynguists; Strange Journey Volume One 3/5
-Chamillionaire; Mixtape Messiah 7 3/5
-Big Mike; Serious As Can Be 3.5/5
-Archie Eversole; Back Like I Never Left 1.5/5
-Ace Hood; Ruthless 1.5/5

2008

Chad Vader's favorites so far in 2008;

4 out of 5 albums
-Scarface; Emeritus 4/5 Chad Vader's review of Scarface; Emeritus
-Young Maylaysīs; The Real Coast Guard 4/5 Chad Vader's "The Real Coast Guard" review
-Devin The Dude; Smoke Sessions VOL 1. 4/5 Chad Vaderīs Smoke Sessions review
-Devin The Dude; Hi Life 4/5 Chad Vaderīs Hi Life review
-Mathmadix; The Mixtape 4/5 Chad Vader's "Mathmadix" review
-Khayree; iTunes instrumental albums 4/5 (not reviewed)
-6-2; Affiliated 4/5 Chad Vader's review of 6-2īs; Affiliated

3.5 out of 5 albums
-Paris' Acid Reflex 3.5/5 Chad Vader's; "Acid Reflex" review
-Bishop Lamont - The Confessional 3.5/5 Chad Vader's; "The Confessional" review
-8Ball and E.D.I; Doin' It Big 3.5/5 Chad Vaderīs Doin' It Big review
-D-Loc of the Coughee Brothaz; The Struggle 3.5/5 (not reviewed)
-Nas; untitled   3.5/5 (not reviewed)
-Nas: Nigger Mixtape 3.5/5 (not reviewed) Better than the album 
-LL Cool J; Exit 13 3.5/5 (not reviewed) Thereīs some weak cuts,but I got 10 out of 19 tracks from it on rotation... thatīs alright.
-Kool Keith; Dr.Dooom 2 3.5/5 not reviewed Kept 10 cuts out of 15
-Ras Kass; Institutionalized Volume 2 3.5/5 not reviewed
-Big Steele; Kneel & Kiss The Pinky Ring  3.5/5 not reviewed
-Dubb Union; House Shoe Music  3.5/5 not reviewed
-Taje; presents Get It Gang   3.5/5 not reviewed
-Crooked I; The Block Obama Mixtape   3.5/5 not reviewed
-Hittman; Big Hitt Rising  3.5/5   Chad Vaderīs review of Big Hitt Rising

3 out of 5 albums
-Erotic D; The Black Bruce Willis 3.7/5 Chad Vaderīs Black Bruce Willis interview
-Cold187um; "Fresh Out The Pen" 3/5  Chad Vader's "Fresh Out The Pen" review
-RBX; Broken Silence 3/5 Chad Vader's "Broken Silence" review
-Ice Cube- Raw Footage  3/5 Chad Vader's "Raw Footage" review
-Big Rocc; Shack Tight Vol.1 3/5 Chad Vaderīs "Shack Tight" review
-Squeak Ru - Fat World 3/5 Chad Vader's Fat World review
-Squeak Ru - Fat World 3/5 Chad Vader's Digital Fatworld review
-Ganksta Nip; Still Psycho 3/5   (not reviewed)
-K-Rino; The Other Side  3/5   (not reviewed)
-Focus (and Fokis); 20/20 EP   3/5   (not reviewed)
-Cory Mo; Still payin duez   3/5   (not reviewed)
-San Quinn; From A Boy To A Man; 3/5 Chad Vaderīs From A Boy To A Man breakdown
-KURUPT & ROSCOE - The Frank & Jesse James Story 3/5 Chad Vader's review of The Frank & Jesse James Story
-Fed-X - The Mob Made Me Do It 3/5 (not reviewed)
-Devin The Dude; Landing Gear 3/5 Chad Vaderīs Landing Gear review
-EPMD; We Mean Business 3/5 Chad Vaderīs  We Mean Business review
-Stat Quo; The Bailout 3/5 Chad Vader's The Bailout review
-Suga Free; Smell My Finger 3/5 (not reviewed)
-Haystack; Hard To Love 3/5 (not reviewed)
-Killer Mike; I Pledge Alligance To The Grind II 3/5 (not reviewed)
-Reks; Grey Hairs 3/5 (not reviewed)
-Yeuqran fka DA of Blacī Monks; SuthunBrothaFrummAnothaPlanet 3/5 Chad Vaderīs SuthunBrothaFrummAnothaPlanet review



Below average albums,that wont make my favorites list 
-The Game; LAX (not reviewed)
-Bun B; 2 trill (not reviewed)
-Snoop Dogg; Ego Trippin (not reviewed)
-Daz; Only on the left side (not reviewed)
-CROOKED I - Block Obama II Chad Vaderīs Block Obama review
-Tech N9ne: Killer (not reviewed) I kept only 9 out of 32 tracks 
-The Terrorists; Detonate The Landmines (not reviewed) I kept only 6 out of 18 tracks 
-Dubee_A.K.A_Sugawolf-Thizzmatic 1.5/5 Chad Vader's Thizzmatic review
-KRS-One's "Adventures In Emceein (not reviewed) I only liked 3 tracks 
-E40; The Ball Street Journal 2/5 (not reviewed) I kept 4 out of 19 tracks 


Other than these albums 6-2/Genacide and One Gud Cide/Twisted Black has been getting heavy spins this year.
I probably forgot a album or two.... but I covered most didn't I? 

itīs 2009,so itīs time to wrap up the year;

Best major album;
South;
-Scarface; Emeritus 4/5 Chad Vader's review of Scarface; Emeritus
West:
-Ice Cube- Raw Footage  3/5 Chad Vader's "Raw Footage" review
East:
-Nas; untitled   3.5/5 (not reviewed)

Best indie;
South;
-6-2; Affiliated 4/5 Chad Vader's review of 6-2īs; Affiliated
West;
-Paris' Acid Reflex 3.5/5 Chad Vader's; "Acid Reflex" review
East;
-Kool Keith; Dr.Dooom 2 3.5/5 not reviewed Kept 10 cuts out of 15


Best Street Album/Mix-tape
South;
-Devin The Dude; Smoke Sessions VOL 1. 4/5 Chad Vader's Smoke Sessions review
West;
-Young Malay's; The Real Coast Guard 4/5 Chad Vader's "The Real Coast Guard" review
East;
-Nas: Nigger Mixtape 3.5/5 (not reviewed)



Related thread;
Your Top 10 Albums Of All Time (2009 Edition)

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

Not even close. Half of that family tree isn't even gangsta rap. I really don't want to make a list of the alternative underground scene. I don't think I could actually. Its huge, way beyond what you realize. If you made a family tree of freestyle fellowship and every act associated with them, it would probably be the same size as the N.W.A. tree. Like I said before, the alternative underground scene is under most people's radar. These guys don't even promote their albums, they just drop them. Just from looking at the list you posted I can see the majority of the west coast albums you listened to are gangsta rap. So how are you going to be talking about the size of the alternative rap scene? Let's face it, this is pretty much a gangsta rap forum. If this is your main music forum, then almost all alternative releases are going to slip by you, unless its by someone like Del who more people know about.

Good looking out on the list. You didn't link to it in your previous post, you linked to some thread where you talked about 5 albums.

So looking at your list and only taking the west coast gangsta rap albums, the highest you rated an album was 3.5? That's not a very good look for 09.

[Chad Vader]

Not even close. Half of that family tree isn't even gangstaer rap. I really don't want to make a list of the alternative underground scene.

ohhh my god....
other than
-Black Eyed Peas,
-93 'Til Infinity (which really is Hip Hop, not alternative,but I wont bother to go there again with you again)
and
-I Wish My Brother George Was Here...
nothing from the alternative scene made it nationwide.

Even if we say that half of that tree ain't gangster rappers (which is correct  ).
The remaining half has released more,better and groundbreaking albums than the alternative scene.

I don't think I could actually. Its huge, way beyond what you realize.
If you made a family tree of freestyle fellowship and every act associated with them, it would probably be the same size as the N.W.A. tree.

So it's huge,but none of them really makes any noise outside California.

Like I said before, the alternative underground scene is under most people's radar. These guys don't even promote their albums, they just drop them.

So does the gangster rap scene... I'm pretty sure you haven't heard of over half of the albums I listed.  

Just from looking at the list you posted I can see the majority of the west coast albums you listened to are gangstaer rap.
So how are you going to be talking about the size of the alternative rap scene?

I never said size,I said;

You take a look again. The NWA/DPG family has released more,better and groundbreaking albums than the whole alternative scene alone   .

So get feeling you don't bother to read my comments thoroughly,so I have to point out previous comments time and time again.
+
I get the feeling you're stubborn,just for the hell of it.  

Let's face it, this is pretty much a gangstaer rap forum.
If this is your main music forum, then almost all alternative releases are going to slip by you, unless its by someone like Del who more people know about.

You're right,this is pretty much a gangster rap forum.
And yes,it's the only message board I browse.
But if you think I get my info and music from this message board,you're out of line.  
Please do a little research next time  

But feel free to add albums thatīs missing from 2009īs list here;
List of 2009 albums and links to their respective threads (add on)

Good looking out on the list. You didn't link to it in your previous post, you linked to some thread where you talked about 5 albums.

Mistake  

So looking at your list and only taking the west coast gangstaer rap albums, the highest you rated an album was 3.5?
That's not a very good look for 09.

I'm a critical fuck.  
Keep in mind that's just my opinion. + I still got over 100 more albums to go trough from 2009,so my 2009 list ain't complete.
I went trough my 2009 list and found two retail and two street gangster albums. Can you honestly say the same about 2009īs alternative albums?

Gangster;
-The Jacka Tear Gas; 3.5/5
-Taje; Hot Box 3; 3.5/5
-Omar Cruz; Hand of cruz; 3.5/5
-B-Real of Cypress Hill; Smoke N Mirrors; 3.5/5

Hip Hop;
-Rome; My Demo; 3.5/5
-Magnificent Ruffians; Elevated Ruffians; 4/5
-Soul assassins; 3.5/5

Alternative;
None so far

[2euce 7even]

what a pic, what a pic.
whatīs paradiseīs status?what family-part does she belong too?


yall guyz started war out there man.chad and rapsody.wtf..alt. hip-hop is NOT underground gangsta rap but itīs both UNDERGROUND.