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Quote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 12:25:27 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 12:13:27 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 11:39:53 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 11:27:46 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 11:09:23 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:46:44 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 10:03:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 10:36:44 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t. Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it. LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover. my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?huh? u just echoed my sentiments and then u question me?...lmao.....yea, he has threats to pass to if he's double teamed! that was my point!!! that is why he jumped ship so he could play with 2 other franchise players!!! what are u not getting here? if roles were reversed and lebron played in OKC and durant played in Miami, who do u think the consensus best player in the league would be? come on, now...it's simple logic. the same logic i use to shit on u in fantasy basketball every year. come on, my dude, just follow me....if kobe got defended like lebron did in that game, he would average 40 ppg....why cant u see what i'm showing u? i know u understand that i have a vast knowledge of the game...so quit fallin for the traps. he is great, but not head and shoulders above the rest of the league...not by a long shot. cham and hack are lebron fanatics, but ur just repeating what u hear. As I said earlier, his #2 on the Cavs was once Mo Williams. And you know what, the Cavs made the East Conference Finals that year. LeBron averaged 30 points and almost 10 assist, and the Cavs went far with LeBron and a bunch of bums. He has proven over and over that he can ball, and now he is playing the best basketball I've seen since Kobe from 2006-2010.Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 09, 2013, 12:37:57 PMLol @ trying to discredit him for passing the ball to a wide open teammate. You've truly been brainwashed. Yeah LeBron can score 16 and win because hell get 13 assists.Jimmy Butler and Tibs both said last night that basically the entire Chicago Bulls defense is geared in some shape or form to stop LeBron and LeBron only. You're also an idiot because you're acting like "he went to play with franchise players" so when he gets doubled he passes the ball to one of them. You watch very little Heat if that's the case. He passes the ball to whoever is open. You're also an idiot because Kobe's a few franchise players away from being nothing more than Tracy McGrady with his awful under .500, first round exits without them. You're also an idiot because if you watched last night 5 of those first 7 were on drives where he beat the defender and the help. So if those are shots "he knows he can make easy" that's just him making difficult looks pretty easy. But above all, again, you're mad because he has the passing ability to set teammates up. Truly butt hurt. You just think if you don't take dramatic shots like Kobe or MJ, it takes something away from you. And of course that LeBron is going to overtake Kobe all time and it bothers you at night. I'm giving LeBron the wait and see, Kobe did great things and LeBron is only just starting to show us everything he has. But yes this does keep NIK up at night, because it is clear as day that LeBron is a fuckin' beast right now. There is no one, NO ONE better than LeBron the last 2 years. NO ONE!
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 12:13:27 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 11:39:53 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 11:27:46 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 11:09:23 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:46:44 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 10:03:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 10:36:44 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t. Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it. LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover. my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?huh? u just echoed my sentiments and then u question me?...lmao.....yea, he has threats to pass to if he's double teamed! that was my point!!! that is why he jumped ship so he could play with 2 other franchise players!!! what are u not getting here? if roles were reversed and lebron played in OKC and durant played in Miami, who do u think the consensus best player in the league would be? come on, now...it's simple logic. the same logic i use to shit on u in fantasy basketball every year. come on, my dude, just follow me....if kobe got defended like lebron did in that game, he would average 40 ppg....why cant u see what i'm showing u? i know u understand that i have a vast knowledge of the game...so quit fallin for the traps. he is great, but not head and shoulders above the rest of the league...not by a long shot. cham and hack are lebron fanatics, but ur just repeating what u hear.
Quote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 11:39:53 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 11:27:46 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 11:09:23 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:46:44 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 10:03:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 10:36:44 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t. Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it. LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover. my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 11:27:46 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 11:09:23 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:46:44 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 10:03:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 10:36:44 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t. Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it. LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover. my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!
Quote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 11:09:23 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:46:44 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 10:03:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 10:36:44 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t. Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it. LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover. my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:46:44 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 10:03:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 10:36:44 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t. Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it. LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover. my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.
Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 10:03:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 10:36:44 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t. Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it. LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.
Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring
Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen.
Kobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t. Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it. LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..
Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t. Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it. LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t.
Quote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.
Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOL
LOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron
Lol @ trying to discredit him for passing the ball to a wide open teammate. You've truly been brainwashed. Yeah LeBron can score 16 and win because hell get 13 assists.Jimmy Butler and Tibs both said last night that basically the entire Chicago Bulls defense is geared in some shape or form to stop LeBron and LeBron only. You're also an idiot because you're acting like "he went to play with franchise players" so when he gets doubled he passes the ball to one of them. You watch very little Heat if that's the case. He passes the ball to whoever is open. You're also an idiot because Kobe's a few franchise players away from being nothing more than Tracy McGrady with his awful under .500, first round exits without them. You're also an idiot because if you watched last night 5 of those first 7 were on drives where he beat the defender and the help. So if those are shots "he knows he can make easy" that's just him making difficult looks pretty easy. But above all, again, you're mad because he has the passing ability to set teammates up. Truly butt hurt. You just think if you don't take dramatic shots like Kobe or MJ, it takes something away from you. And of course that LeBron is going to overtake Kobe all time and it bothers you at night.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 12:46:02 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 12:25:27 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 12:13:27 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 11:39:53 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 11:27:46 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 11:09:23 AMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:46:44 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 10:03:09 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 09:47:00 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 08:30:59 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 08:15:53 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 08, 2013, 07:45:16 PMKobe has also played 40 more playoff games than MJ which is half a season loland no Kobe might not even make it 2 years with this injury he has Jordan ain't even on the list. So that 40 games really don't MN much. And if his injury does effect him, I can see him a shooting more. Watch out Ray Allen. jordan missed an entire playoff season in his prime due to retiring Kobe missed a whole playoff because his teammates were Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Chris Mims. Point is?Kobe didn't miss shit that year and you know it. He wasn't good enough to win that that team while Lebron took teams of lesser talent to the NBA finals now anyways Jordan still has a better 3 point shooting % than Kobe in the playoffs and several hundred more points in 41 less games so we know who the better player is.That season, Kobe played 66 out of 82 games, the Lakers were 2-14 in the games Kobe missed and it was the only season in Kobe's career in which the Lakers missed the playoffs. And he was a better 3 point shooter than MJ. MJ just didn't take as many because he only shot when he's wide open. I'd say MJ had a way better shot selection, because he generally drove to the lane to get the And 1 instead of shooting the three. MJ was a smarter player, but Kobe had the better shot.Quote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 10:36:44 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 01:54:49 PMQuote from: NIKCC on May 08, 2013, 12:45:48 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 08, 2013, 10:48:51 AMQuote from: NIKCC on May 07, 2013, 10:12:59 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 07, 2013, 07:28:35 PMLOL Lebron James averages 27 PPG without having to take nearly as many shots as ball hogs like Melo and Kobeyou gotta stop your huge anti Lebron bias...dude is gonna win another 2 or 3 MVP's in the next 5 years so he ain't going nowhere.also a lot of Kobe's records will soon be owned by Lebron once again, proving my point without even realizing...lebron gets to shoot less shots because he has complimentary players who can create for themselves from top-to-bottom. then the shots he does take are much easier and far less contested than a kobe or a melo, cuz defenses cant double off of wade, chalmers, ray allen, battier, mike miller, etc without getting a three nailed on their ass.....so yea, try to follow me, and quit proving my point by tryin hard to make ur own LOLYou know you sound completely clueless right now, or just trolling. You know what, I'm going with trolling.I'm the one providing points and u the one with nothing to say,. Looks to me like ur the one trollin. Either that or ur just brainwashed to a t. Straight up, from 2012 to 2013, LeBron James is the best player in the world. In 2012 the Heat won the title, LeBron was clearly the best player. In 2012, Team USA won the gold medal, LeBron was clearly the best player on the teams. In 2013 the Heat have been the best player, LeBron has clearly been the best player.You say it's the team, well I have news for you, LeBron was putting up great stats when his teammates were Mo Williams and Antwan Jamison. LeBron is a stats monster, and in 2010 I'd argue Kobe was still better than LeBron. Why? Because Kobe knew how to win and Kobe knew how to win. But 3 years later LeBron has figured out how to win, Kobe is older and slower and injured and LeBron is a BEAST. There is no other way to put it. LeBron shots for a higher average, only scores one point less than Kobe, has more rebounds and more assist. LeBron is in his absolute PRIME. He is that much better than Durant, Durant will improve, he's only 24. But LeBron in 2013 is better. LeBron shots less because he can get to the basket. LeBron shots less because he needs less shots to score points. LeBron shots less because he can also pass and pass well. LeBron shots less because he has aging talent around him so he needs to get the ball in the basket the first time. In 2013 LeBron is the best basketball player in the world. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Are you so caught in this LeBron hate that you can't bring yourself to admit it. That's okay, but you are wrong.thats fine and all, but ur completely missing my point and not even addressing it whatsoever..Your point made no sense. Your point was that LeBron had a better team around him so he has to shoot less. The problem is, when LeBron shoots, he makes the shot. This means he has a better FG%, because he still has to make the shot. You point is actually a very weak point and it's almost insulting to anyone who knows basketball. If you ask anyone, they want a player with a high FG%, because that means when they shoot the ball, it goes in the basket. Hence the name basketball. When you miss a shot, you just hope that one of your 7 footers or the crazy SF crashes the lane for an offensive rebound. And offensive rebounds are harder to get than defensive rebounds. So more shots for a less percentage is almost the same as a turnover. my point was that lebron is made to look head and shoulders above the rest because he plays with a team that allows him the luxury of falling back. just watch the games. he can disappear for stretches and the heat still beast. melo, kobe, durant, etc. do not have this luxury...it's a great point and u still haven't refuted it. whats insulting is that u have difficulty understanding this point, and it cant be because of ur education, considering ur a college graduate. yes, when he shoots shots, he makes them....which brings me back to my point- HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A VOLUME SHOOTER FOR THE TEAM TO WIN. he only takes shots which he is almost positive he will make, because thats all the heat need from him. when u have ray allen, shane battier, chris bosh, dwyane wade all surrounding u, it's hard to double off those players, so he gets MANY MANY easy looks, in comparison to durant, kobe, melo...and when he doesnt have the shot, he can just dish it to one of them for an easy assist...again, if u dont understand this, then dont even reply, cuz ur last reply had absolutely nothing to do with the points i addressed.If you watch LeBron's game, you can see he CREATES shots. He is so big and so fast that he can create easy shots for himself. LeBron doesn't have to be a volume shooter because he makes the shot the first time. There is this thing called creating a shot, LeBron does it, and he does it better than anyone in the world today. And what we found out about LeBron in the past is if he needs to be a volume shooter, he can be and he's good at that too. But is even better at creating his shot and creating other shots.http://www.youtube.com/v/JlfU-NbnZ2s?hl=en_US&version=3This is a video of LeBron DOMINATING the Celtics. Notice that most every shot he makes, or assist he makes, is because he gets inside the lane and makes things happen. This is not a product of his team, his team benefits from him doing what he does. He makes that team run, without LeBron the Heat are a lower seed. With LeBron the Heat are winning 2 in a row. It's very simple. LeBron creates shots. LeBron gets in the lane and either scores or passes it off. At the end of the game the defense is looking for LeBron to get in the lane so LeBron steps back and hits the open jumper. It sounds simple but it's hard to pull off. But LeBron makes the NBA look simple right now. Can he keep this up for another 5 years, maybe not. But right now, he's the best at what he does, and that's getting the ball in the basket. Hence, Basketball.lmfao...u realize the video u posted proves my point? watch it again.. he doesnt get double-teamed once in the entire vid...on the occasion where a help player comes, he instantly passes it to a wide-open three point shooter.... good job!You realize the times he does get doubled, he passes it to the open man and they score. LeBron is a true threat. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you double him, Wade or Super Mario will score, if you don't double him he'll score. Plus in that game Boston used the old MJ defense that Detroit used on Jordan, which is we dare you to beat us with one man. Guess what, Boston on that day got beat by one man.NIK, why can't you see what everyone else sees? Are you blind? And did you watch the whole video or just saw the first few seconds?huh? u just echoed my sentiments and then u question me?...lmao.....yea, he has threats to pass to if he's double teamed! that was my point!!! that is why he jumped ship so he could play with 2 other franchise players!!! what are u not getting here? if roles were reversed and lebron played in OKC and durant played in Miami, who do u think the consensus best player in the league would be? come on, now...it's simple logic. the same logic i use to shit on u in fantasy basketball every year. come on, my dude, just follow me....if kobe got defended like lebron did in that game, he would average 40 ppg....why cant u see what i'm showing u? i know u understand that i have a vast knowledge of the game...so quit fallin for the traps. he is great, but not head and shoulders above the rest of the league...not by a long shot. cham and hack are lebron fanatics, but ur just repeating what u hear. As I said earlier, his #2 on the Cavs was once Mo Williams. And you know what, the Cavs made the East Conference Finals that year. LeBron averaged 30 points and almost 10 assist, and the Cavs went far with LeBron and a bunch of bums. He has proven over and over that he can ball, and now he is playing the best basketball I've seen since Kobe from 2006-2010.Quote from: Chamillitary Click on May 09, 2013, 12:37:57 PMLol @ trying to discredit him for passing the ball to a wide open teammate. You've truly been brainwashed. Yeah LeBron can score 16 and win because hell get 13 assists.Jimmy Butler and Tibs both said last night that basically the entire Chicago Bulls defense is geared in some shape or form to stop LeBron and LeBron only. You're also an idiot because you're acting like "he went to play with franchise players" so when he gets doubled he passes the ball to one of them. You watch very little Heat if that's the case. He passes the ball to whoever is open. You're also an idiot because Kobe's a few franchise players away from being nothing more than Tracy McGrady with his awful under .500, first round exits without them. You're also an idiot because if you watched last night 5 of those first 7 were on drives where he beat the defender and the help. So if those are shots "he knows he can make easy" that's just him making difficult looks pretty easy. But above all, again, you're mad because he has the passing ability to set teammates up. Truly butt hurt. You just think if you don't take dramatic shots like Kobe or MJ, it takes something away from you. And of course that LeBron is going to overtake Kobe all time and it bothers you at night. I'm giving LeBron the wait and see, Kobe did great things and LeBron is only just starting to show us everything he has. But yes this does keep NIK up at night, because it is clear as day that LeBron is a fuckin' beast right now. There is no one, NO ONE better than LeBron the last 2 years. NO ONE!proving my point once again...when lebron was with the cavs, he wasnt regarded as head-and-shoulders the best. why do u think that is? do u think he just got way better when playing alongside two franchise player? or could it, maybeee, just be that theres less pressure on him to lead the team when he has 2 other stars to share that pressure with + a bunch of knock-down-shooters around him to relieve whatever else pressure is left? once again, try making sense of it...i know u understand what im sayin, ur simply the type of cat that lets his ego interfere with agreement.
lebron won 2 MVP's with the Cavslol @ him not being viewed as a best there. quit reaching. Lebron has been the best player in the NBA for a good 5-6 years now and will be for another 3-4 years
He wasn't head and shoulders above the rest because Kobe was a fucking monster and winning titles. Kobe was that much better than LeBron. Now LeBron is in his prime. He's better at 28 than he was at 23. Kobe is declined. Kobe is not better at 34 than he was at 29. Right now we are at that point were LeBron is better than everyone else. Durant is close, but as Westbrook's injury is exposing, Durant is not ready for prime time. LeBron has had Wade injured through some of this year and he still dominates. Kobe has had Howard and he can't make him better. So with all of that, you are proving my point. It's LeBron time now.
Quote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 01:32:25 PMHe wasn't head and shoulders above the rest because Kobe was a fucking monster and winning titles. Kobe was that much better than LeBron. Now LeBron is in his prime. He's better at 28 than he was at 23. Kobe is declined. Kobe is not better at 34 than he was at 29. Right now we are at that point were LeBron is better than everyone else. Durant is close, but as Westbrook's injury is exposing, Durant is not ready for prime time. LeBron has had Wade injured through some of this year and he still dominates. Kobe has had Howard and he can't make him better. So with all of that, you are proving my point. It's LeBron time now. and on the contrary, miami plays great even without lebron LOL....meaning, he needs them just as much as they need him.cant say the same for melo, kobe, or durant.as for dwight, dont even bring him up...dwight sucked all on his own, had absolutely nothing to do with anyone but himself. he even sucked worse in the playoffs without kobe LOL. so quit soundin like one of these laker-hating lebron groupies, cuz u doin a pretty good job at it right now.
Quote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 09, 2013, 12:02:53 PMLOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.again, not getting the point lebron's team doesnt need him to do that...they have the luxury of winning with him scoring under 20 points. the other superstars dont have this luxury, they need to put up shot after shot and take over the game with volume in order for their team to win. try to follow me, my man, cuz yall keep sayin the same shit, which has nothin to do with my point.
LOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.
Quote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 12:05:18 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson 1930 on May 09, 2013, 12:02:53 PMLOL @ calling out Lebron for taking shots that give his team a chance to win instead of taking stupid circus shots like Melo and Kobe as Cham pointed out, it must be really hard on you to see Lebron pass Kobe in greatness before even turning 30 years old.again, not getting the point lebron's team doesnt need him to do that...they have the luxury of winning with him scoring under 20 points. the other superstars dont have this luxury, they need to put up shot after shot and take over the game with volume in order for their team to win. try to follow me, my man, cuz yall keep sayin the same shit, which has nothin to do with my point.Youre just a hater. Read your post again and realize the Lakers played some of their best basketball this season when Kobe scored under 20 points. Not sure what youre trying to say here. This was around the same time you claimed on Dubcc that Kobe was playing like Magic Johnson. Just rambling on trying to find excuses to claim King aint the best. SMH.
Quote from: NIKCC on May 09, 2013, 01:44:06 PMQuote from: M Dogg™ on May 09, 2013, 01:32:25 PMHe wasn't head and shoulders above the rest because Kobe was a fucking monster and winning titles. Kobe was that much better than LeBron. Now LeBron is in his prime. He's better at 28 than he was at 23. Kobe is declined. Kobe is not better at 34 than he was at 29. Right now we are at that point were LeBron is better than everyone else. Durant is close, but as Westbrook's injury is exposing, Durant is not ready for prime time. LeBron has had Wade injured through some of this year and he still dominates. Kobe has had Howard and he can't make him better. So with all of that, you are proving my point. It's LeBron time now. and on the contrary, miami plays great even without lebron LOL....meaning, he needs them just as much as they need him.cant say the same for melo, kobe, or durant.as for dwight, dont even bring him up...dwight sucked all on his own, had absolutely nothing to do with anyone but himself. he even sucked worse in the playoffs without kobe LOL. so quit soundin like one of these laker-hating lebron groupies, cuz u doin a pretty good job at it right now.Let's put it this way, if Kobe was as great as you are trying to make him out to be, the Lakers would be a 3rd or 4th seed. But instead they are a 7th or 8th seed, just barely getting to the playoffs. Face it Scittles, LeBron is the King right now. For the past 2 years, no one is touching him, and it'll be that way for another 3-4 years. The Heat might not win that many titles in a row, but clearly LeBron is the best player until Durant steps up.Also, what the Heat did was smart, they built a team to best fit LeBron. The Lakers did that with Kobe in 2008 as they got a good passing center in Gasol to work inside/out to get Kobe someone to play with. On top of that they had tough as nails Derek Fisher as the PG and Odom as the garbage man PF and well I'm not sure what Radmanović was for but he did get some rebounds. When the Lakers really shined though was moving Gasol to PF, having Bynum in there to bang with centers like Perkins and Howard, getting either Artest or Ariza to be a shut down defender for players like LeBron or Pierce and building a team in which Kobe can score 30ppg and the Lakers can win. The key was rebounding as Kobe will sometimes take a crazy shot, but you have 2 7 footers and a defensive minded SF to grab the loose balls. Those teams were built for Kobe to win and when Kobe was out in 2010 the Lakers had a winning record. Remember this article...http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/20/are-the-lakers-gasp-better-without-kobe/Point is, those teams were built for Kobe to shine and the Lakers to win. It's that simple. The Heat built a team to maximize LeBron's skills and LeBron won. Basically the point is, that's what a player needs to win. But of course it's still up to the player to win. After all just because you build the perfect team doesn't mean you'll win. See 2004 Lakers, 2004 Timberwolves, 2013 Lakers. At the end of the day, it's up to the players to win, and LeBron is winning right now, he is the most dominate player on the planet right now, and there is nothing that can change that.
Lakers were an 8 seed with Kobe, case closed.now go tell us how great Chris Bosh is again