Last “Dre produced” album was Relapse. Before that, 2001. If true, cool
I am convinced that it will not appear on NFT, as it will also come out via Aftermath and Interscope also has something to do with it. Pictures of Jimmy Iovine together with Snoop and Dre, I think a lot has been negotiated. It will be a big release
I agree, the sequel to Doggystyle should be called "Anal" or "Facial," not "Missionary."
I agree, the sequel to Doggystyle should be called "Anal" or "Facial," not "Missionary."
Doggystyle 2 or Breakups to Makeup better…
Honestly, the title doesn’t matter. We gonna get a snoop/dre album in 2022 (2023 likely)? I don’t care what they call it. I DO hope it has some real g-funk type shit of its a sequel though. I’m not sure dre has a new type of sound in him, so just redo the OG death row sound for this one.
i don’t mind the title .. actually ties in well
It only works if it's a prequel.
"Missionary: Before Doggystyle"
Wishy washy Dre. Wish this album would be released this November. By this time next year, Dre will be on some other different sound or idea and scrap the whole thing. How many times has Dre been behind an album and then all of sudden grow tired of it and never release it? Bishop Lamont, Hittman, Rakim, his own album 'Detox', the list goes on and on.
Best chance is when people put pressure on him to release something quickly before he has time to change his mind. Both Compton and The Contract came relatively out of nowhere. With over a year lead in time, no way he is still into this Snoop Dogg album by next year.
If a Snoop and Dre album can’t get this forum poppin again, I’m afraid nothing will be able to.
Anyone remember how fun this forum was around the Last Meal album coming out?!
I agree, the sequel to Doggystyle should be called "Anal" or "Facial," not "Missionary."
i get a different feeling this go round
snoop has too much say to just allow dre to scrap it on his terms
dre had total control over all those scrapped albums u speak of
but this is snoop and set to be a death row/aftermath collabo, so snoop will have his share of control imo
There's nobody who can tell Dre shit. Jimmy wasn't able to make him drop "Detox".
detox was a dre album
this is a snoop album
forum was poppin january-february around the super bowl, dre album hype ….
this project should definitely make some noise round these parts tenfold
i hope of a propper release.
nowdays the nft hoax semms to die finally, we can go back to the cds i hope.
NFTs seem to be slowing down every where except in Snoop's mind, unfortunately. CDs are good to be hard to come by though. Best bet is to buy FLAC copies from places like 7Digital.
You guys aren’t very observant are you? Snoop has been posting pics eating breakfast at Dre’s lol for months now. Posting pics of them in the studio. They’ve been goin in. This shit is the real deal
i hope of a propper release.
nowdays the nft hoax semms to die finally, we can go back to the cds i hope.
cds ain’t comin back man.. as a cd collector, it truly saddens me, but we are the last of a dying breed.
vinyl has outsold cds the past 3 years, so if anything physical is coming back, it’s vinyl
i personally don’t understand it, because physical media kills digital media imo, and the most convenient physical media are cds
Put deeeeez nuttzzz on ya chinc deeeez **
Here you go stans, this one's for you. Some of the track titles from Missionary.
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Snoop The Ruler (Snoop.Dre.KAAN)
Bread Crumbs (Birds Picking Up Seeds) (Dre Snoop Cocoa)
Malpractice (Dre.Snoop.Jointz)
Caution Tape (Snoop Dre)
Professional Winner (Snoop.Dre.Armstrong)
Circle Back (Snoop FatMoney)
WHERE I'M FROM (Snoop Stalone AP)
Lose Your Head (Snoop Cocoa KAAN)
Poverty Sucks (Snoop)
Make it out Alive (Snoop Cocoa KAAN)
Profit (Dre.Snoop.Smitty)
i make out 2022 in the playlist on the left
cds ain’t comin back man.. as a cd collector, it truly saddens me, but we are the last of a dying breed.
vinyl has outsold cds the past 3 years, so if anything physical is coming back, it’s vinyl
i personally don’t understand it, because physical media kills digital media imo, and the most convenient physical media are cds
FLAC copies are great but there is nothing like opening that CD case for the first time and popping it in while reading the liner notes
IMO, the most likely outcome is that Missionary turns out like The Wash. People forget that was supposed to be the Snoop & Dre reunion album, but it only ended up having two Dre & Snoop traccs. Missionary will probably be similar. But I hope I'm wrong. I do think it is a real album, at least.
You guys aren’t very observant are you? Snoop has been posting pics eating breakfast at Dre’s lol for months now. Posting pics of them in the studio. They’ve been goin in. This shit is the real deal
back in the day when cd arrived everybody said vinyl is DONE for good, and forever.
Now, as u wrote. more vinyl selling than cd.
I dont think any of them gonna disappear.
There will be collector forever.
maybe not that much, but they, we will be here forever!!!!
the thing i aint understand is the cd-r.
when a factory made cd is cheap as phuck why anybody sellin factory made cd-r?!
Bluecarpet was full of dope dres beats, and overall was a dope album. Snoops best after doggy.
Agreed with this
it’s a near classic but i wouldn’t say best after doggy
doggfather
top dogg
last meal
all better imo
Snoop has sounded nice on a few tracks within the last year (ETA, the joint off that Russ dudes album) so with Dre’s coaching, I have no doubt his vocals will be nice. On the other hand, I haven’t heard anything all that interesting production wise from Dre in a long ass time. I don’t wanna hear Snoop over darker sounding Piano driven beats (it worked on Imagine but still) not do I wanna hear snoop over the type of production Dre has been doing from the Compton era onward.https://www.instagram.com/p/Cfp7XKUFtFI/
Agreed with this
it’s a near classic but i wouldn’t say best after doggy
doggfather
top dogg
last meal
all better imo
it’s a near classic but i wouldn’t say best after doggy
doggfather
top dogg
last meal
all better imo
I like Last Meal better than Top Dogg but that list is about right 8)
let's add "paid da cost to be da boss" to that list.
Bluecarpet was full of dope dres beats, and overall was a dope album. Snoops best after doggy.
lol naah
bct is way better than paid da cost fam
There were only three Dre beats on the album, but he did work on some of the other songs too, like "That's That Shit". It is definitely one of Snoop's best.
naaaah... not at all bro!
these 3 following albums were pieces of a ONE, top dogg, tha last meal and Paid da cost...
blue carpet is also a solid album but Paid Da Cost was the shiiiiiiiiit!
look at those hits from the album!!!!
From Tha Church To Da Palace
Lolipop
Ballin'
Beautiful
Paper'd Up
The One And Ony
From Long Beach 2 Brick City
Suited N Booted
Pimp Slapp'd
naaaah... not at all bro!I agree with you, it's clearly my favorite Snoop album after Doggystyle. I really don't understand the hate.
these 3 following albums were pieces of a ONE, top dogg, tha last meal and Paid da cost...
blue carpet is also a solid album but Paid Da Cost was the shiiiiiiiiit!
look at those hits from the album!!!!
From Tha Church To Da Palace
Lolipop
Ballin'
Beautiful
Paper'd Up
The One And Ony
From Long Beach 2 Brick City
Suited N Booted
Pimp Slapp'd
bro nobody here is guna agree wit u
paid da cost is a dope album, don’t get me wrong
but i was around when both albums dropped and the overwhelming majority said bct is snoops best work since last meal
on the contrary, when paid da cost dropped, most snoop fans were disappointed because it didn’t live up to last meal or top dogg
u can go search the original discussion threads if u don’t believe me
I was probably one of those that hated and was very critical when this album first came out. But 20 years later this album kinda aged well. E-White was a great song writer for Snoop. Boss Playa, The One and Only, I Miss That Bitch, Pimp Slappd are some of his best work.
they might not be the most loved but i really enjoyed Ego Trippin & Bush. both very cohesive in terms of production & sound. a new Snoop/Dre LP could have the potential to top these & BCT, if it ever came out.
naaaah... not at all bro!
these 3 following albums were pieces of a ONE, top dogg, tha last meal and Paid da cost...
blue carpet is also a solid album but Paid Da Cost was the shiiiiiiiiit!
look at those hits from the album!!!!
From Tha Church To Da Palace
Lolipop
Ballin'
Beautiful
Paper'd Up
The One And Ony
From Long Beach 2 Brick City
Suited N Booted
Pimp Slapp'd
None of those are touching Boss' Life, Imagine l, Round Here and Crazy
There were a handful of dope tracks on paid tha cost. Snoops biggest problem has always been trimming the fat from his albums. Dude could have 3-4 classics if he kept his albums to 12,13 songs instead of 21 joints.yup .. snoop woulda had the goat catalogue wit a stronger executive producer on all his albums
After Doggystyle flip a coin between Top Dogg and last meal. Depends on the day
Then it’s BCT, paid tha cost, BODR
Then the rest.
I can’t wait to hear what Snoop and Dre have cooked up in 2022. It’s been way too long. Looking forward to hearing it
In Paid da cost nobody mentions Pimp'd Slap. It was a dope album like Blue Carpet. For me its a tie. People hate on Paid da cost cause No dre, and Pharrell on the project and the mainstream Beautiful track. Everybody on here happy for Blue Carpet cause G.Clinton, Dre, Nate... but for me is a like i said.
1. Doggystyle
2. Doggfather
3. Last Meal / Top Dogg
4. Paid Da Cost / Blue Carpet
5. R&G
6. Ego Trippin
7. BODR
8. I wanna thank
Don t list others cause they are wack.
Many Welcome 2 Da Chuuch mixtapes can be in this list and higher than Paid Da cost or Blue Carpet.
Vol.1 / 3 / 6 are better then teses 2 studio albums
Just my point.
Snoop’s discography is so underrated…the only album that I can’t bump the majority of tracks is Da Game is to be Sold…I’m not saying it’s bad but it’s not my cup of tea
coolaid, neva left, and 7 days of funk whack?7 days of funk is good. Coolaid and neva left yes there are wack for me. You still bumping those? Off this two i cant even make an album of 10songs that i can put above i wanna thank me
Snoop’s discography is so underrated…the only album that I can’t bump the majority of tracks is Da Game is to be Sold…I’m not saying it’s bad but it’s not my cup of tea
7 days of funk is good. Coolaid and neva left yes there are wack for me. You still bumping those? Off this two i cant even make an album of 10songs that i can put above i wanna thank me
coolaid was a dope album to me.. narrowed down to about 12 songs and it’s actually great
if you take the 10 best songs off coolaid and neva left, u can actually make a classic
ten toes down
don’t stop
supercripoh nah nah
my carz
two or more
feel about snoop
what if
^^and that’s just coolaid.. these ain’t dope?
Not these one sorry
And on neva left:
Back In The Days
Go on
Thats all, thats 8 good tracks... on 36 tracks... i call it wack...
Sorry i don t count Vapors remix.
damn u don’t like 2 or more off coolaid? or big mouth off neva left?Yep
I don't think this album is going to come out.
But November 2023
7 days of funk is good. Coolaid and neva left yes there are wack for me. You still bumping those? Off this two i cant even make an album of 10songs that i can put above i wanna thank me
Since it's more of a snoop album and some people already said that it's finished, I believed that this was on the way.
But snoop also announced a dj grillz mixtape for late October and the new mount westmore album drops december. November is open, but that month is neither the anniversary for The Chronic or Doggystyle.
So am I supposed to believe that they'll wait a year to release this? They waited a year to release the first Mount westmore album, and then Dre pulled his guest-verse from it.
Since it's more of a snoop album and some people already said that it's finished, I believed that this was on the way.
But snoop also announced a mixtape for late October and the new mount westmore album drops december. November is open, but that month is neither the anniversary for The Chronic or Doggystyle.
So am I supposed to believe that they'll wait a year to release this? They waited a year to release the first Mount westmore album, and then Dre pulled his guest-verse from it.
all I know is Snoop needs Dre or Quik's touch to elevate his music to the next level. he's lucky to have worked with those guys so extensively & Pharrell/Neptunes. and he should do a whole album with Quik already, seems to keep him around for mixing duties anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsgbL0GOqN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVhKJGrtVi4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shTzvA4dg58
Snoop said release in November, so we should be getting this within the next 2 weeks!November 2036
8)
Snoop said release in November, so we should be getting this within the next 2 weeks!
8)
Is this Dr Dre’s production? Can a bit of Kush production in it
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClE-bP8J4jW/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
could be dre but it could also be DJ Premier
not hearing Dre there. maybe in style but certainly not sonics.
could be dre but it could also be DJ Premier
When is this getting released lol
So they say the album is done but won’t release it until Nov 2023…that’s a vibe killer
So they say the album is done but won’t release it until Nov 2023…that’s a vibe killer
possible summer release
https://www.instagram.com/p/CoYeQxPJlPk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Interesting. Scitt any update about Death Row return on streaming platforms?
snoop team just getting credits right atm
Snoop said they were going to complete it in November, not release it.
So they probably mixed it during the last months.
No, album is not coming.
And which new album of Snoop should come out? If he only works on it with Dre
Not long left until this is allegedly coming out... Any more news?
You'd have thought they'd have started promoting it soon...
No album. There is no promo yet so I assume no album coming this year.For once, i agree with you astra
still comin out
just probably delayed
rbx in november wil be the replacement
heading to LA in two weeks for what would have been the rescheduled concert. find other ways to entertain myself, had some nice seats too. oh well
Missionary is not coming.
There will be anniversary release of Doggystyle 11/24/23 with Gz Up Hoez Down track as a bonus.
good for those who don't have itreal talk... wtf? :grumpy: we need tha next episode
I would much rather have Tha Next Episode as the bonus since I have the 1st pressing but it looks like thats never happening
Missionary is not coming.
There will be anniversary release of Doggystyle 11/24/23 with Gz Up Hoez Down track as a bonus.
Missionary is not coming.
There will be anniversary release of Doggystyle 11/24/23 with Gz Up Hoez Down track as a bonus.
To everyone who said I was wrong for saying this album was never coming out due to Dre's involvement, how does the truth feel? Dre cannot be trusted to release music anymore. He just can't. He doesn't have the motivation to do so, because (a) he's ridiculously rich and (b) he doesn't have a record label exec forcing him to stick to timelines.
There was never any chance it was gonna come out, I dont get why people act like surprised
Also any official statement about the Doggystyle release with Gz Up Hoez Down? I have the original release with the track, but it's good that they are re-releasing it if it's true
same with
Marsha Ambrosius is gearing up to release her new Dr. Dre-produced album Casablanco.........
https://hiphopdx.com/news/marsha-ambrosius-dr-dre-album-trauma-bond
They are still in the studio and working on the album. No rumors without an official statement that it was canceled.
Jesus. I just did some Googling on this. Did they really record it back in 2021? And Dre has been holding it hostage for two years? What the fuck, man? Let the woman get on with her career. Either release it on Aftermath or just give the woman her fucking masters. Get fucked, Dr. Dre.
and they did a listening session for the album
and they did a listening session for the album
and they did a listening session for the album
They did the same with Marsha's album "casablanco".
They did the same with Marsha's album "casablanco".I think he was in fact talking about casablanco.
It's out via NFT and its Sounds GREAT
Where? Not that I plan on supporting NFT shit. I just want to see proof Missionary actually came out.
sorry wrong thread
LOL
what album were u talking about?
Just talked to RBX he was at snoops compound and he played him some tracks off missionary he said that shit was hot and that they’re still working on it
Just talked to RBX he was at snoops compound and he played him some tracks off missionary he said that shit was hot and that they’re still working on itSo in other words it's not finished, which means it's not droppin on Doggystyle anniversary. Which means it ain't coming out.
If it was really for 30th anniversary should be coming out about now
he didn’t say they’re still workin on it he said it’s still comin out and that what he heard was epic
x was there to film his parts in an upcoming death row documentary
Not to throw shade at RBX, but this is the exact same stuff that was said about DETOX the past 15 years. Not saying it won't come out, but Dre's done this so many times, news like this doesn't even phase me anymore, i'm not getting excited about this at all until the day it actually comes out. Pictures on IG of rappers in the studio with Dre and Snoop, interviews from rappers, producers, etc. mean nothing to me because this exact same stuff happened with Detox and it never came out. DOC said Detox was coming out, never did. Now DOC says Missionary is coming out. Forgive me if I don't believe him.
Not to throw shade at RBX, but this is the exact same stuff that was said about DETOX the past 15 years. Not saying it won't come out, but Dre's done this so many times, news like this doesn't even phase me anymore, i'm not getting excited about this at all until the day it actually comes out. Pictures on IG of rappers in the studio with Dre and Snoop, interviews from rappers, producers, etc. mean nothing to me because this exact same stuff happened with Detox and it never came out. DOC said Detox was coming out, never did. Now DOC says Missionary is coming out. Forgive me if I don't believe him.
he didn’t say they’re still workin on it he said it’s still comin out and that what he heard was epic
x was there to film his parts in an upcoming death row documentary
If it was just a Dre album, I would have doubts.
Given that Snoop is involved, I think it's definitely coming out.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=y5OzzmLAJPA?si=wLz-KMtjb8JANjvo (https://youtube.com/watch?v=y5OzzmLAJPA?si=wLz-KMtjb8JANjvo)
I don't know if footage has been recorded November 10th but Snoop posted an Instagram video for Warren G's birthday, you can see Snoop, D.O.C and Dre working on missionnary.
Beat sounds great
First two seconds : https://www.instagram.com/p/Cze0sEhS_TE/
I don't know if footage has been recorded November 10th but Snoop posted an Instagram video for Warren G's birthday, you can see Snoop, D.O.C and Dre working on missionnary.
Beat sounds great
First two seconds : https://www.instagram.com/p/Cze0sEhS_TE/
I don't know if footage has been recorded November 10th but Snoop posted an Instagram video for Warren G's birthday, you can see Snoop, D.O.C and Dre working on missionnary.
Beat sounds great
First two seconds : https://www.instagram.com/p/Cze0sEhS_TE/
I see the problem with this, the guys have made so many great tracks together
The Chronic
Doggystyle
No Limit Top Dogg
2001
The Wash (Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg Feat. Traci Nelson)
Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo)
Boss' Life (Feat. Akon)
Compton - Wasn't my cup of tea at all, of course they tried a new sound and the productions are really great, but if I'm honest I only like 3 tracks It's All On Me (Feat. Justus & BJ The Chicago Kid), terrible as he is raps, Animals (Feat. Anderson .Paak) & Talking To My Diary
All I can say is why did he throw out his old hitmakers or they weren't in the mood anymore Mel-Man aka 2001, Mark Batson & Mike Elizondo...Neff-U on Heat yeah he did the Piano part, but like Storch on Still
Che Vicious
Then in 2005 it started for me, when I thought exactly the sound that Dr. you want to hear, the time where dawaun was always at the start
Talk About Me (50 Cent) Get Rich Or Die Tryin' Soundtrack
Outta Control (Remix) (Feat. Mobb Deep)
2006
Busta Rhymes - The Big Bang / Mark Batson was still there but mike? & Dawaun Parker
Kingdom Come - Lost One (Feat. Chrisette Michele)
Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo) = the perfect example of what you want to hear from Dre or not
So what do you expect after the Eta track, I mean it's good, but it starts with mixing and so on and on
and to be honest, I don't believe in God, but that Dr. Dre has monsters sleeping on his hard drive, no question about it! But apart from that, all this talk is getting on my nerves, I mean after all these years there hasn't even been a single that was really cool? He may have great producers in his camp, but what comes out of that?
its hard to live up to all that
even if they never release another track you can still make an argument for them being the GOAT duo
https://twitch.tv/amazonmusic/schedule?segmentID=eyJzZWdtZW50SUQiOiIxZWMyYzFjNi0zZjEyLTRkZjktOTFjNC0xNzZmNTUwNmM0ZjEiLCJpc29ZZWFyIjoyMDIzLCJpc29XZWVrIjo0Nn0=
Doggystyle 30 Years Anniversary celebration tonight.
anyone happen to see this?
Found this on someone’s story
https://instagram.com/stories/mrs.tymebomb28st/3238499117326807475?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
lol at people who thought Dre was really gonna produce a new Snoop album
Snap…
It was the show yesterday night
Here is the full set
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WIH8Fb8bysY?si=-viCy6oXvm-Vw5rB
8 days left to change topic title.
8 days left to change topic title.
Doggystyle was released this day thirty years ago November 23, 1993.
Would be a nice touch if Missionary dropped today.
Gz Up Hoez Down drops on streaming platform...
Nice to have full album on streaming at last.Yeah but why dont add Next Episode too??? Because of Dre again i assume.
Yeah but why dont add Next Episode too??? Because of Dre again i assume.
Song was never released. Dre is guilty of a lot of stuff, but I can't blame him because he isn't adding unreleased songs to streaming platforms.
I knew it wasnt coming, did Snoop himself even confirm this album exists in the first place?
To be honest the last couple of snoop Dre collabs haven’t been all that stellar. Been alright but nothing like when it was the 00s. The Wash and Kush were the last 2 I thought were good collabs. The 2 cuts on Compton and then the gta soundtrack song - prettty average really. I said it before and I’ll say it again Dre’s ghost producers that lay the foundation done shipped out and he ain’t found anybody good enough yet to make the hits. I’d rather an album with Quik, battlecat Soopaly Warren g and Quaze/Fredwreck with 1 or 2 from Dre and his production team.
To be honest the last couple of snoop Dre collabs haven’t been all that stellar. Been alright but nothing like when it was the 00s. The Wash and Kush were the last 2 I thought were good collabs. The 2 cuts on Compton and then the gta soundtrack song - prettty average really. I said it before and I’ll say it again Dre’s ghost producers that lay the foundation done shipped out and he ain’t found anybody good enough yet to make the hits. I’d rather an album with Quik, battlecat Soopaly Warren g and Quaze/Fredwreck with 1 or 2 from Dre and his production team.
To be honest the last couple of snoop Dre collabs haven’t been all that stellar. Been alright but nothing like when it was the 00s. The Wash and Kush were the last 2 I thought were good collabs. The 2 cuts on Compton and then the gta soundtrack song - prettty average really. I said it before and I’ll say it again Dre’s ghost producers that lay the foundation done shipped out and he ain’t found anybody good enough yet to make the hits. I’d rather an album with Quik, battlecat Soopaly Warren g and Quaze/Fredwreck with 1 or 2 from Dre and his production team.
Song was never released. Dre is guilty of a lot of stuff, but I can't blame him because he isn't adding unreleased songs to streaming platforms.Gz Up Hoez Down is on vinyl. Next Episode could be on it.
Gz Up Hoez Down is on vinyl. Next Episode could be on it.
Gz Up Hoez Down is on vinyl. Next Episode could be on it.
how many hits do Quik, Warren. Soopafly and the rest done lately?
I never doubt Dre, every time he has been counted out he came back stronger
dre has never in his life had a ghost producer, but i see what time u on
:ray:
Think main thing with Dre is that he has never found that single to set it off with last 25 years. How We Do maybe closest but gave that to 50/Game.
Kush was close - best sounding, most Dre-like beat any of his collaborators put together for him - but song itself was average.
Think they got a hit for Missionary that they can lead with? If not, it aint happening
the best chance he had was if he used that whole “i gave up smoke” thing to make a song based around the topic .. but smoke can mean anything ala beef.azz it was a huge story, if he woulda dropped a catchy dre produced song in relation to that a few days later then it woulda been everywhere … woulda been marketing brilliance at its finest .. unfortunately he wasted that headline on some smokeless firepit or whatever it was lolllll
remember when dre was accidentally leaking stuff to feel out responses? crack a bottle, under pressure... damn, he got so trigger shy
the best chance he had was if he used that whole “i gave up smoke” thing to make a song based around the topic .. but smoke can mean anything ala beef.azz it was a huge story, if he woulda dropped a catchy dre produced song in relation to that a few days later then it woulda been everywhere … woulda been marketing brilliance at its finest .. unfortunately he wasted that headline on some smokeless firepit or whatever it was lolllll
Yea this is a great point… that whole snoop bit about quitting smoke, then a video of him sitting beside a firepit?
???
Still have no idea of the purpose or point of that ad? Is this a smokeless firepit you get at your local store for bbq?
crack a bottle became a single tho
was it confirmed he was the one leaking it??
Casablanco is on the way, Missionary is on the Way.
crack a bottle became a single tho
was it confirmed he was the one leaking it??
I call bullshit.. no way Dre would leak something like that.. he's always been totally against internet downloading and all that since the Napster days, and even worse the leak came out with someone else spitting his vocals.
That song was a hit that never really hit
I call bullshit.. no way Dre would leak something like that.. he's always been totally against internet downloading and all that since the Napster days, and even worse the leak came out with someone else spitting his vocals.
That song was a hit that never really hit
Isn’t snoop’s wife sick?
If so, I can see why releasing an album is not a priority.
Yo Scitt, what about RBX album? This year?
Isn’t snoop’s wife sick?
If so, I can see why releasing an album is not a priority.
snoop says almost finishedWhere?
take it for what it’s worth
:toobad:
Where?
inside info, peoples in contact
Dre knows his work has been below average/bad for a while so he has been acting like some kind of hipster artist who does music to be only heard by a selective group of people .
LMFAO
It’s ok track but nothing groundbreaking. If it wasn’t for Dre nobody would care.
It’s ok track but nothing groundbreaking. If it wasn’t for Dre nobody would care.
Snoop just confirmed on a podcast that the album is coming and it’s at the finished line, when asked what he’s most excited about at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx95VLx62BwrW9MBP5yuSGCrOfapDUgUI2?si=QCy41Pxv-pdzUje1
Snoop just confirmed on a podcast that the album is coming and it’s at the finished line, when asked what he’s most excited about at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx95VLx62BwrW9MBP5yuSGCrOfapDUgUI2?si=QCy41Pxv-pdzUje1
Yeah, I think its coming.. if it was just Dre I would have doubts but I definitely think Snoop is going to get this to the finish line..
I am surprised they didn't ask him more about the album
Detox was at the 'finish' line for 10 years.
They missed the November 30th Doggystyle anniversary they were shooting for. Now it needs to be out by January to roll out their Gin and Juice line for 2024. Think they'll make that deadline?
Remember when everyone said Dre would drop DETOX right before the Superbowl halftime show and that came and went?
Before the Super Bowl, it was just speculation and no official announcement that an album is coming
Right, but that's all this album is too. Speculation that an album is coming. Still have yet to hear a concrete release date. All we keep hearing is either 'it's being worked on' or 'it's nearly completed'....which was the same things we heard about Detox the last 20 years.
The Contract EP dropped right before the Super Bowl which was a surprise in many ways . Dre is going to do something, however it would be interesting to see if the project does well where the team goes from there.
I mean they can tour at any time if Snoop can carry the album to get the last push of his music career to a grand ending.
Let’s see
Snoop might be keep releasing albums but he is not relevant for this decade in music. He is just an icon and a legend. Dr. dre as well.
None of us should expect from them to rock the world and charts again as solo artists.
Snoop just confirmed on a podcast that the album is coming and it’s at the finished line, when asked what he’s most excited about at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx95VLx62BwrW9MBP5yuSGCrOfapDUgUI2?si=QCy41Pxv-pdzUje1
Yup!Ask him why he's lying
I asked him that question on IG
Damn. Focus said today Missionary is stil coming 😮 😮😮😮😮😮
Ask him why he's lying
Why are you saying that?
Why are you saying that?Cause I ain't stupid
Cause I ain't stupid
I believe it will come out...whether it is good or not, we shall see
and is Dre doing the whole album? or just a few tracks
Lmao who said you aren’t?I ain't the one falling for "dont worry guys the producer said its coming so that means its coming" shit for the 10000th time again lol
I ain't the one falling for "dont worry guys the producer said its coming so that means its coming" shit for the 10000th time again lol
Let me know when I can buy a copy on Amazon. Other than that, stop wasting my time.
Let me know when I can buy a copy on Amazon. Other than that, stop wasting my time.
Happy new year dre and snoop.. I know you are checking in.. we are waiting on the album
after this, new nwa and helther skelter albums are also coming.
And the finale.... Break up to Make up
Dre is also working on Xzibit king maker and a new 50 cent album!
AFTERMATH RECORDS TAKEOVER Q4 2024
I CAN'T TELL YOU MORE GUYS BUT STAY TUNED!!! IT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Happy new year dre and snoop.. I know you are checking in.. we are waiting on the album
There’s a new clip of snoop talking about still working on the album from his new All The Smoke interview
When is the new RBX album coming out?
Is it still scheduled for this week?
album been done..it was sent back for pressing with one of the songs missing, so we had to re-send
a definitive release date is right around the corner, we just shot a video for midnight drive ft. mc eiht
Nice, I checked iTunes couldnt find it. Is it being uploaded soon?
First it was finished, Dre was just mixing it. Then it was supposedly completely done. Now he says they are still recording stuff for it. Guess Snoop needs his own version of Detox.I mean Snoop even admits so himself in this interview man. Dre always asks him for a couple more days, everytime it "just give me 2 more days". You can take this as an official album cancellation announcement, it's always gonna be 2 more days now, like always
Jeez this really did turn into the new Detox.
y’all need to slow your roll .. it’s only been a year
great albums generally aren’t made overnight
y’all need to slow your roll .. it’s only been a year
great albums generally aren’t made overnight
y’all need to slow your roll .. it’s only been a year
great albums generally aren’t made overnight
Can you blame people for being pessimistic, considering Dre's reputation the last 10 to 15 years?
y’all need to slow your roll .. it’s only been a yearJust curious, how much time needs to pass before you to realise it's not coming? Because for some people, who still believe Detox is coming, even 20 years wasn't enough
great albums generally aren’t made overnight
Jon Connor album
in the last 10-15 years, which projects did dre announce that didn’t drop?
Just curious, how much time needs to pass before you to realise it's not coming? Because for some people, who still believe Detox is coming, even 20 years wasn't enough
Jon Connor album
Detox
The Planets
Mary J album
Kanye album
LL album (sort of)
Missionary
Reformation
Marsha's album is still in the question
Pretty much everything, except for Compton and Anderson Paak first album
none of those albums were officially announced outside of detox and reformation, which bishop lamont fucked off by leaking early .. and i’m pretty sure those were both over 15 years agoWhat do you mean they weren't announced? Dre himself said JIK2 was "coming soon" 5 years ago and announced that he was doing an album with Mary J. Blige after Super Bowl 2 years ago.
What do you mean they weren't announced? Dre himself said JIK2 was "coming soon" 5 years ago and announced that he was doing an album with Mary J. Blige after Super Bowl 2 years ago.
Yeah, Detox and Reformation were announced over 15 years ago, but they both were cancelled in 2010-11, if I'm not mistaken.
Oh, and Vehicle City was also announced by Dre to be coming out in 2018, so...
It was being promoted as Kanye & Dre album though even on it's cover, so I guess it was supposed to be GOOD Music/Aftermath release
Jesus Is King 2 was finished and eventually leaked.. Not sure why it wasn’t released but that was Kanye’s album to put out, not an Aftermath album
in the last 10-15 years, which projects did dre announce that didn’t drop?
God some of yall are hopeless lol
In 2030 yall still gonna be like "there was no official cancelation, just 2 more days guys"
Just curious, how much time needs to pass before you to realise it's not coming? Because for some people, who still believe Detox is coming, even 20 years wasn't enough
Jon Connor album
Detox
The Planets
Mary J album
Kanye album
LL album (sort of)
Missionary
Reformation
Marsha's album is still in the question
Pretty much everything, except for Compton and Anderson Paak first album
It's sick, isn't it? There's Dre fanboys in here that acting like battered housewives, making excuses for their abuser.We coming back here in a couple weeks to hear that new single that Snoop promised. If it isn't out by then....we gonna give it 2 more days.
God some of yall are hopeless lol
In 2030 yall still gonna be like "there was no official cancelation, just 2 more days guys"
It was being promoted as Kanye & Dre album though even on it's cover, so I guess it was supposed to be GOOD Music/Aftermath release
Mary J situation is kinda similar to Missionary tbh. They might not have worked on it as actively but it still counts because they announced it and Dre was excited af to work on it. Matter fact, Dre actually mentioned her album in an interview, which is something he still didn't do for Snoop. The only time Dre sort of acknowledge Missionary, is in that short Busta Rhymes video, where he says he's been working on Snoop shit, without even mentioning it was a full album, not just few songs.
Why are you defending Dre? He's a fucking clown at this point, who keeps fucking over everyone he works with. He's either so fucking ADHD that he can't focus on finishing anything or he's got such bad OCD that he can't ever sit back and objectively look at his own work and say, you know, that's good enough and instead has to take literal years to finish a handful of songs.
It's sick, isn't it? There's Dre fanboys in here that acting like battered housewives, making excuses for their abuser.
Thank you. I'm sure there's more too.
i think there’s a difference between 1 year and 10 years my friend
for instance, we been working on rbx album for 2 years
if some cats online was talkin bout “oh my goodness!! why is it taking so long?!?? it’s never dropping!!!!!!” and losing their shit because they think great music is made over night, i personally would think they trippin
so i’m talkin to yall from a producer perspective, not a consumer perspective
take it for what it is
a few more
Eve Aftermath LP (100% complete)
Statlanta (100% complete)
Busta Rhymes 2nd Aftermath LP
Slim The Mobster LP
i think that Justus dude from Compton was meant to have an album too.
Just curious about the music biz these days… if you work on an album for 2 years, what is the return on investment (roi). In 2 years, how much time (hours) have you put into the RBX project and how much do you expect to make as a profit?
How much does Itunes pay? Or any another comparable platform? How much does it cost to break even?
helter skelter
make ups to break ups
chairman of the boards
king t
hittman
rakim
hayes
king mez
Relapse 2
what else?
there’s more than 1 answer to each of these questions
as for return on investment, it really depends on how much you invest .. the more money you spend on marketing and promo = the more money you get back
and how much you can get back is a crapshoot, but the more you push the product the better .. so that extends beyond investing money- you gota put in the time and energy to maximize profits
i cant tell you exactly how many hours were spent on making the album, but i can tell u that it was an unhealthy amount of sleepless nights from start to finish
that’s just me personally tho.. every artist is different
Man of course there's a difference
i think there’s a difference between 1 year and 10 years my friend
a few moreNah we only talk about last 10-15 years. All that shit was before that.
Eve Aftermath LP (100% complete)
Statlanta (100% complete)
Busta Rhymes 2nd Aftermath LP
Slim The Mobster LP
i think that Justus dude from Compton was meant to have an album too.
Hopefully for your sake you at least break even with the RBX project. Sounds like you might be losing money if this album is 2 years iin the making with no real promo or release date, especially for an artiist peaking 30 years ago.
Im still ready for a nostalgia album when or if it drops! 8)
well that depends on if people like u support it foreal or just stream it which hurts most artists
we sold out of the fatlip vinyl but only a couple people on this website actually supported it
hoping for more love on here for rbx tho
https://x.com/patmcafeeshow/status/1750963665786777765?s=46&t=iZGSzmEx9o0oPCgYcAcNbg
New Interview about the Album
well that depends on if people like u support it foreal or just stream it which hurts most artists
we sold out of the fatlip vinyl but only a couple people on this website actually supported it
hoping for more love on here for rbx tho
I'll support if it's good music and i'm feeling it. I'm not going to buy it just cause it's RBX. I hope he releases a great album. Hell, i hope all the OGs release great albums. But whether you're an OG or a BG to the rap game, if it's trash, i'm not buying it.
you already said you were feelin the single that dropped ….. did you support lets ride by purchasing it? 🤔
you already said you were feelin the single that dropped ….. did you support lets ride by purchasing it? 🤔
helter skelter
make ups to break ups
chairman of the boards
king t
hittman
rakim
hayes
king mez
what else?
Did Let’s Ride disappear from streaming or am I trippin?
yea.. it’ll be back when the albums out
Why? What's going on?
too many singles on streaming prior to album drop .. we anticipated a 2023 release, but with all the delays, we’re trying to avoid getting too stale prior to the release
there will also be a bonus track available only on the physical
I think it'd be interesting, coming from a producer who is working on an album that's been delayed multiple times, what were the delays exactly? Sometimes people here give artists and producers a hard time when they miss their anticipated release dates. They think it's as simple as recording an album, converting to digital and releasing it. I know it's much more complicated than that. Sample clearances, mixing, etc. Just curious on what some of the delays were in this particular case. Just so we can get some insight on the inner workings of an album release and what all goes into it. Would be an interesting read.
I remember when I pre-ordered RBX's Broken Silence album for download right here on Dubcnn back in 2007 or 8 - then never received it to this day! I sent emails to Nima back then asking what happened.
I then asked some forum members to send me a download rip link and some guy then did after private messaging me to send him my purchase receipt as proof which I did...hopefully that won't repeat this time around!
well that depends on if people like u support it foreal or just stream it which hurts most artists
we sold out of the fatlip vinyl but only a couple people on this website actually supported it
hoping for more love on here for rbx tho
one example;
the latest delay was due to mastering issues
the album wasn’t leveled correctly upon running the final tests .. we were supposed to send it in for pressing that day, but noticed the inaccuracies, hence another setback
in turn, we had to reach back out to big bass and have him correct the issue
then once he finally got the leveling right we went back again and during this test we noticed that somehow panning got lost in the intro.. so another setback- this time we had to go back and have him re-master the intro
and many artists would’ve just released it as is the first time, without going back and looking for these minor discrepancies
but when you genuinely care about your craft, you want to get it right, and the most minute details that get overlooked by the fans can become extremely time consuming for those crafting the project, creating multiple setbacks at every step of the way
Tbh I don't think Dre has anything to do with this, his name wasn't mentioned on this track for 10 year and he wasn't listed as a producer in the official booklet. He probably doesn't even remember this song exists
Dre dre... and "his" beats lol
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I feel jigga is going to be in it
probably eminem too
So I heard Missionary minus the intro. There's like two versions of this album. The retail was suppose to be the one with that Fruity sound Jimmy Iovine wanted for Detox. The other is Death Row Records sounding but more modern. Then you got third version which is Missionary E.P. Then final disc of Missionary I've heard too and its phenomenal. Personally, I'm a fan of the second version and final disc more than any of the others.
bro dont you think your existence would be more fulfilling if you were real wit it?
what, u jus online all day thinkin of the most outlandish shit to say that revolves around 90s death row?
there’s gota be more to life than getting attention from sounding like a junky on the internet homie
or naah?
He's literally letting you hear it for free. Not making up facts. Play with simple sounds by slowing them down and speeding them up and pitching them and you have the album just based off that song. You can literally take like the first five minutes off that song and play Death Row unheards as well as most of Missionary. I do not make this up. Its part of the new software regime.
i think if they had the masters they would allow the masses in, but suge said that wasn’t part of the deal. so now they’re waiting on reggie wright to sign off and the remixes will come first due to that issue. in the mean time Missionary will be dropping on Instagram live for those who tune in and Bo Rocc is going to be the one presenting it.
Am i doin it right?
WTF is this?
https://walyo.bandcamp.com/album/dr-dres-detox-2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsXZvPmmJsI
So here we go guys. This weekend we will get that new Snoop single produced by the king?Oh definitely! Tomorrow for sure!
So here we go guys. This weekend we will get that new Snoop single produced by the king?
Oh definitely! Tomorrow for sure!
Yeah. stay tuned. (till you die)
Guys. you better get your seatbelts fasten :)
Guys. you better get your seatbelts fasten :)Why because of a dam drink with they name on it wow
album is shelved already, let's have a drink at least brothers!All they care about is money even when they have enough, fans don’t want this crap
All they care about is money even when they have enough, fans don’t want this crap
Speak for yourself.Because it’s all marketing the drink isn’t made by them it’s just their name attached to it, like prime etc they don’t care about fans they wanna make money
If it's good drink, I'll support it.
I already drink all sorts from companies I don't care about, why won't I support people have been listening to their music all my life?
by the way, i feel like they already shoot the video for the first single and this is the teaser for music video, because it ends with a mystery and questions. who they burried? who does dr. dre mean when he said he likes his movies and what happens at the end of the video?
we will learn these when the music video droed for the first single off the missonary.
fingers crossed!
Because it’s all marketing the drink isn’t made by them it’s just their name attached to it, like prime etc they don’t care about fans they wanna make money
All this caring about fans is hilarious bro, entertainment is a business, they are all doing it to make money.My issue is they are both multi millionaires so they don’t need money so why not just cater for the fans that made them successful?
Exposure and money is the end game but at this stage of their career, it's probably more for the love of it but they are still investing time and money in this project and definitely want return on their investment, it's basic economics.
As long I like what they produce (Music, movies, products) and it's good quality, they can have my money.....It's their job.
"caring about fans" is a myth
Aftermath ghostwriter Smitty shared the video by attaching a list of bunch of people
ashley palmer - aftermath records general manager
fredwreck - producer
Dem jointz - producer
blu2th - producer
coco sarai - singer
champ massey - audio engineer
king thurz - ghostwriter
fat money - rapper
k.a.a.n - rapper
sly pyper - singer
#sneakpreview #aftermath #deathrow #missionary
Eric Sermon did something on the album https://hiphopdx.com/news/erick-sermon-dr-dre-snoop-dogg-new-album-crazy
assuming first single soon. album before/around the Olympics since he is gonna be a part of that
What do you mean?
Snoop I believe is performing at the Olympics in Paris, probably the opening ceremony; and is part of a commentary team covering the event.
Aren’t they supposed to be doing some party or show today?
So, just 2 more days, right?
Where is the 2 more days news from?Just trust me
Where is the 2 more days news from?
If you haven't caught on, it's a joke. Some people on this website seem to think that Dre and Snoop will release the album/single any day now. Others of us say look at the fact that Missionary is now over a year past due and compare that to Dre's lack of output for the last 15 years.
If you haven't caught on, it's a joke. Some people on this website seem to think that Dre and Snoop will release the album/single any day now. Others of us say look at the fact that Missionary is now over a year past due and compare that to Dre's lack of output for the last 15 years.
I'm kidding, of course
Lol….fair enough, I’m in the former camp.
I believe it’s coming out, Yeah call me deluded 😀
Being a professional whistler in Hollywood has led to some truly odd jobs. She recorded in the studio with Dr. Dre. (His producer stumbled upon her randomly. He was looking more generally for “dope whistlers.”)
Eric Sermon of EPMD Talks About His Superproductive Recording Session with Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg
The EPMD rapper and producer says they recorded five songs, both for his own project and for Dr. Dre x Snoop Dogg’s upcoming album.
Eric Sermon revised this moment during his recent interview :
When I was here with Dre, me and Dre made five records. And he made three in one night. Off of my production, though. And then, we did another one with Snoop, that’s supposed to be on the new Snoop record, and I also did one with him, that me and him rhymed on, which was CRAZY. It’s a blessing. I never talk, I hate to big up myself. I’ve always been an introvert, I’ve always been quiet. But a lot of dope shit has happened in the last couple of years.
Eric talked about three songs two years ago, when posting about that remarkable session with Dr. Dre:
I got to L.A a day before the #superbowl ..then 2 days after that was his bday…after that .. the #sagacontinues. We worked on my new project #DYNAMICDUOS … the next day he called @snoopdogg we made something epic for him .. then we made something for him after.. I think lol. Then he says erick .. that’s 3. What’s next ? GOD doesn’t make mistakes. Thanks for the opportunity. We were friends for over 30 and never worked together.. a lot of ppl has been waiting on this to happen. Well .. here it is
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it’s not a year past due lol
it was said to come november 2023
they’ve only been workin on it for a year & change
Snoop Dogg’s brother Bing Worthington dies aged 44
RIP Bing aka Pretty Tony. He was on Be Thsnkful on Eastsidaz
Snoop Dogg Gives Update On 'Masterful' New Album With Dr. Dre: 'It's A Grown Snoop Dogg
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Snoop Dogg has offered an update on his new album Missionary which he’s making with Dr. Dre.
Appearing on All the Smoke with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson, Snoop revealed that he’s currently hard at work in the studio with his longtime collaborator, and they’re putting together something he has high hopes for.
“I’m in the lab with Dr. Dre right now. That’s Death Row/Aftermath. We finishing that up right now, tidying up the pieces to that. He’s a perfectionist,” he said at the 39:48 in the video below.
Revealing the origins of the project, Tha Doggfather said: “The n-gga called me one day about two years ago. He was like, ‘N-gga, come over, let me do a couple of songs with you.’
“I go over there and he like, ‘N-gga, let me do your album.’ And I’m like, ‘Alright, let’s go!’ We go in, knock out a couple of songs. He hit me back: ‘I need two more days.’ I got that call probably about 85 times. This n-gga need two more days all the time.
“But when you hear what we have and how he got me rapping, it’s like a grown Snoop Dogg. There’s some growth to him. It’s the way he selects his bars, it’s the way he uses his voice. [Dr. Dre] uses me like a fucking robot and I love it because I love to be produced. I love to be challenged.”
Snoop went on to call the material they’ve recorded for the album “masterful” and praised Dre for using his voice “like an instrument.”
Snoop Dogg has been teasing the album for over a year and previously revealed that it would be titled Missionary, though it is not clear if that is still the name of the project.
The name is a nod to his 1993 debut Doggystyle, which was also produced by Dr. Dre and celebrated its 30th anniversary last year.
‘Gin & Juice’ Canned Cocktail Launched by Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg
“Look at our age and look at what we’ve done, and we still love each other, so why not do something together?”
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Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg have partnered once again, though on a new track, but for the rollout of Gin & Juice – a ready-to-drink product from their new premium spirits company.
The drink, modeled after the classic 1994 song “Gin & Juice” that helped establish Dre and Snoop as hip-hop superstars, the pair are now known as much for their wide-ranging entrepreneurial ventures as for their game-changing music.
“Gin & Juice” (the canned cocktail), comes in four flavors: Citrus, Melon, Passionfruit, and Apricot. It will be rolling out domestically throughout the US now through early spring. More offerings from the brand will be announced in the future.
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“There’s passion behind it, and friendship and love and a culture. We’re shooting to make everything we do magnificent, and fortunately, most of the time we hit the target.” “Look where we’re at in our careers,” added Snoop Dogg.
“Look at our age and look at what we’ve done, and we still love each other, so why not do something together? A lot of times people have been in a relationship for thirty years and can’t talk to each other, can’t hang out, so it’s just fun to be in a partnership with people that you actually love.”
Getting really quiet again. Damn…..Wow no way who would've thought
Wow no way who would've thought
But Snoop said the single was coming out in 2 weeks!
Did you guys watch "matrix 4"?? the matrix resurrections??? do you remember how it felt after you watched it? you asked for the new matrix movie for long years but after it came true and you watched it, you felt like wish they wouldnt make it. that's how you are going to feel after listening to missionary if they really releases it.
Did you guys watch "matrix 4"?? the matrix resurrections??? do you remember how it felt after you watched it? you asked for the new matrix movie for long years but after it came true and you watched it, you felt like wish they wouldnt make it. that's how you are going to feel after listening to missionary if they really releases it.
https://hiphopdx.com/news/dr-dre-erick-sermon-not-want-write-raps
this is good, watch the video in the article
great; thanks for sharing
I already had that with Matrix 2 & 3 only the first one is really good.
This is getting off topic, but you are right. The second and third movie were both cool, but they should have stopped after the first one if we are being honest.
Coming soon ----> Shelved.
like the Marsha Album
There is a new tune on the Instagram page for the drinks which sounds pretty dope.
There is a new tune on the Instagram page for the drinks which sounds pretty dope.
Where? Cant find it
https://www.instagram.com/by.snoop.and.dre/?hl=de
“Snoop ain't solely focused on missionary”
Not surprised, Snoop natural skill set is to be an hustler, Dre made him focus on rapping and it worked but since Dre left Deathrow and left him to be on his own, he has been hustling the the whole game since then and have mastered it.
https://allhiphop.com/news/dr-dre-speaks-on-sibling-like-rivalry-with-snoop-dogg-he-does-too-much/
WTF is this?
https://walyo.bandcamp.com/album/dr-dres-detox-2
u got some interesting songs on this :
NWA x Michael Jackson : https://walyo.bandcamp.com/track/n-w-a-ft-michael-jackson-la-riots-prod-walyo
Eminem x Busta Rhymes x Yelawolf x Kendrick Lamar : https://walyo.bandcamp.com/track/bullet-ft-eminem-busta-rhymes-yelawolf-kendrick-lamar-prod-by-walyo-2
Too $hort x Warren G x Bishop Lamont x Marsha Ambrosius : https://walyo.bandcamp.com/track/foolin-ft-too-hort-warren-g-bishop-lamont-marsha-ambrosius-prod-by-walyo-2
Dr.Dre at the Walk of Fame with Snoop,Eminem and 50 Cent. https://www.youtube.com/live/4bNLs1hxVp8?si=5W8Wd1NJHca-V_ln
Dr.Dre starts mixing Missionary in April!
April 2035
Dr.Dre: believe it or not, we're coming back! 2024
most young heads dont know who s Dr Dre and thats a good thing
and they dont care about old Snoop
most young heads dont know who s Dr Dre and thats a good thing
and they dont care about old Snoop
Rock in the sand on the beach he'd soon discover, now we deep cover blood brothers on a mission,' he rapped. 'House with no furniture, studio in the back with a little bit of food in the kitchen. Long Beach to Compton to Calabasas compositions.'
Snoop continued: 'Pay attention. Quincy had Michael, they rewrote the cycle. So if Dre is Q and Mike is Snoop, we bang G thang motherf**king super group Death Row.'
The 16-time Grammy nominee continued: 'Forever in out hearts now engraved on the Hollywood blocks/ With the Sinatras and Oscars/ Movie stars and mobsters.'
Other verses included Snoop calling out Dr. Dre for making him record every line '100 times' and on they're still 'on the grind' in the studio together after three decades of friendship.
'I thank you for being a perfectionist and pushing me to be great,' he said. 'You always bring out the best of the Dogg, Dr. Dre and that I do appreciate.'
Snoop raved about the 'magic in the studio' they've created and how they've 'left a mark on the world of music' through their collaborations.
'From intro to endo, our partnership has been legendary. Dre, the motherf**king doctor. Congratulations on this well-deserved honor and welcome to my motherf**king neighborhood. Get your walk on, Cuz,' the rapper concluded.
How is that a good thing?I was exaggeratin but sometimes i think you got destroy to rebuild and forget the past
I was exaggeratin but sometimes i think you got destroy to rebuild and forget the past
NWA and 80's hip hop was a completly new form of music ,
the Chronic is in my top 3 ever ,a masterpiece , i dont hate
I watched this event live and just think that The Game fucked up his relationschip with Dre. They even aint mentioned him when that guy read a fuckn loooong list artists Dre worked with. Documentary was the one of the biggest west coast album produced by Dre.
Game is soooo dumb. He could stand with them yesterday. Lol im so courious if he cryied and the same with Daz...
How is that a good thing?
I watched this event live and just think that The Game fucked up his relationschip with Dre. They even aint mentioned him when that guy read a fuckn loooong list artists Dre worked with. Documentary was the one of the biggest west coast album produced by Dre.I can see Daz and Game not being there bit what was odd to me is no Cube or Kendrick being there. Even spots Dre's son Curtis Young in the cut.
Game is soooo dumb. He could stand with them yesterday. Lol im so courious if he cryied and the same with Daz...
I think he meant that if an old artist realizes he's irrelevant to the young crowd that hip hop appeals to, it might reinvigorate the artist to try harder to make good music.
I will say that Michael Jordan noticed that the young basketball fans had stopped recognizing how good he was, which is why he did "The Last Dance" to kind of reintroduce himself to a new generation of basketball fans who didn't grow up watching him play in the 80s and 90s.
So I think that's what OP meant by saying it's good that young fans don't know who Dre is. However, I don't know if Dre cares about what young hip hop fans in the 2020s think about him, honestly.
I watched this event live and just think that The Game fucked up his relationschip with Dre. They even aint mentioned him when that guy read a fuckn loooong list artists Dre worked with. Documentary was the one of the biggest west coast album produced by Dre.
Game is soooo dumb. He could stand with them yesterday. Lol im so courious if he cryied and the same with Daz...
RBX tends to keep to himself so he also gets left out of these things a lot
https://chadkiser.com/2024/03/20/dr-dre-announces-new-eminem-album-is-on-the-way/
50 knew, but snoop....funny that there are three sizes there. but dre only mentioned eminem
I think he meant that if an old artist realizes he's irrelevant to the young crowd that hip hop appeals to, it might reinvigorate the artist to try harder to make good music.dont know why but Too Short still relevant to the game . is he the only one ??? i think he s
I watched this event live and just think that The Game fucked up his relationschip with Dre. They even aint mentioned him when that guy read a fuckn loooong list artists Dre worked with. Documentary was the one of the biggest west coast album produced by Dre.
Game is soooo dumb. He could stand with them yesterday. Lol im so courious if he cryied and the same with Daz...
Game says a lot of dumb things and a lot of times, he says it because drama sells, however, his best albums came after Dre's involvement. No doubt, the Dr. Dre co-sign helped him break through but it's hard to dispute Game's artistry with the discography that he has. Financially, he definitely screwed himself though.
Dre did not create K. Dot. He just rode the wave that Top Dawg built. No doubt, a Dr. Dre produced album is the pinnacle for a lot of people but he isn't the ONE anymore. So many other dope producers that can actually deliver a product.
You can see how Snoop felt when Dre mentioned the Em project. It was pretty sad to see...
Game says a lot of dumb things and a lot of times, he says it because drama sells, however, his best albums came after Dre's involvement. No doubt, the Dr. Dre co-sign helped him break through but it's hard to dispute Game's artistry with the discography that he has. Financially, he definitely screwed himself though.
Dre did not create K. Dot. He just rode the wave that Top Dawg built. No doubt, a Dr. Dre produced album is the pinnacle for a lot of people but he isn't the ONE anymore. So many other dope producers that can actually deliver a product.
You can see how Snoop felt when Dre mentioned the Em project. It was pretty sad to see...
Game says a lot of dumb things and a lot of times, he says it because drama sells,
You can see how Snoop felt when Dre mentioned the Em project. It was pretty sad to see...
I can see Daz and Game not being there bit what was odd to me is no Cube or Kendrick being there. Even spots Dre's son Curtis Young in the cut.
snoop always felt some typa way bout em, no doubt
Dr. Dre, Mr. Porter, Royce 5’9, The Alchemist, and Shady Records’ newest signee, Ez Mil, side by side with Em
Just sad…No it's not
games best album is the documentary so no his best albums weren’t after dre bro
What em project?
I saw that too, but reading between the lines theres some rivalry or shift with Eminem and Snoop in the background. 2 little bros fighting.
Jimmy asked if Eminem would be in Snoops new album and Dre immediately jumped in and changed the subject… for better or worse. I highly doubt you will hear an Eminem verse on Snoops new album.
You're crazy bruh. No doubt, The Documentary is a classic that sold more and had bigger hits but I felt like content wise, Doctor's Advocate, and even Doc 2 and 2.5 were better.
those were great albums and doctors advocate might even be classic, but gota disagree there
Eminem has a new album coming out...supposedly this year. Dr. Dre has involvement with the project.
I feel like Snoop really doesn't like Eminem but knows if he voices it, he loses some fans, and access to Dre. That's probably the connection he needs, musically.
You think Snoop would "lose access" to Dre if he dissed Em?
:dead:
Em dissed Snoop before, and Snoop had a soft ass response
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5EX4enuOBA/?igsh=MXhteWp1eTRsbjhpcA== (https://www.instagram.com/p/C5EX4enuOBA/?igsh=MXhteWp1eTRsbjhpcA==)
Eminem and Snoop should make another song, prod by dre!
I doubt its from Missionary.
I doubt its from Missionary.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5EX4enuOBA/?igsh=MXhteWp1eTRsbjhpcA== (https://www.instagram.com/p/C5EX4enuOBA/?igsh=MXhteWp1eTRsbjhpcA==)
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5FBGbyppr6/?igsh=a3NsNXMxMXNyajk5
Check the link. What do you think? Is this is a Dre beat? Listen to the drums.
It is mid April so this album is getting mixed right about now
It’s shelved.
I think he said mixing starting mid April… mixing takes awhile.
Then mastering, listening, then mastering again… is the next episodes.
I would guess a summer or fall release.
snoop is likely working on the dogg pound and east sidaz project in the mean time..
We will see
Also Danny Boy, he forms the new Death Row RecordsWait Danny Boy is back on Death Row niceeee
Wait Danny Boy is back on Death Row niceeee
Nobody caresNo one asked you so move on
Dope
Advert is the best rap video in years, love the 1920s Gangster twist of Gin and Juice...should of shot the vid in black and white.
Wonder what duo they will play in the next commercial (Outlaws? Dre and Snoopy Eastwood?!)
Damn I had to put the original vocals on this FIIIIIRE beat!!!
Snoop Dogg - Gin & Juice (2024 Dr. Dre Remix) ;D 8) ;D
https://mega.nz/file/Ul5yASIB#WentIKuTIjjVzecCafWKLB6I0I4ZUBjqqfpflyVJBA4
Wack arrangement. The voice track needs to be a tiny bit more to the right
It was done in 3 minutes so I am aware it's not perfect ;DU need to speed up the track. Thanks for the idea
U need to speed up the track. Thanks for the idea
You were 100% right...done 8) https://mega.nz/file/cso2RJ6C#knStBJCIcdpZV4Azus16Y7nltU8ZQE07q5GpzsiXaFs
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/9aca697a710ee066fedcc12dba346b96/tumblr_mqdqk2V1TR1sahre4o1_1280.jpg)(https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/-/media/Images/Daily/2024/05/07/Olivia-DAILY-May-7/Snoop-Dogg-Arizona-Bowl-Presented-by-Gin--Juice-by-Dre-and-Snoop.ashx)
Listened to Snoop talk on the Stephen A Smith show yesterday for an hour and not one question or mention about the Missionary album. I had hopes for this album actually getting released but really starting to doubt we’ll see it now.
Well that's not promising. Surely Snoop's should be the priority to kick start the resurgence, in the same way Doggystyle came before Dogg Food.
That was the plan! Probably the work on the album took too long, Snoop is in the summer at the Olympic Games so also no focus on the album, the only thing he could do now to use the time and expand the artist of his label before it's too lateHe’s also about to go on tour until almost the end of June, then working summer olympics, so basically won’t be working on the album from now until end of August. Not looking very promising
This is strictly Dr Dre’s project.
I suspect Aftermath have their own roll out planned with Em, Snoop, Marsha and Maybe 50 later in the year
Well that's not promising. Surely Snoop's should be the priority to kick start the resurgence, in the same way Doggystyle came before Dogg Food.
I respectfully disagree. If it's commercially successful, this new DPG album and getting the crew bacc together will yield solo projects, including Missionary, in the same way The Chronic (in theory) was supposed to lead to all those artists' solo projects.
But, again, the DPG album needs to be successful to spawn all of the potential follow-up albums, so again please let's all support it financially.
All I'm really saying is that if this new Dogg Pound album flops hard, that could be the end of Snoop's Death Row era before it even barely gets out of the starting gate.
Financial success still matters in this business. I will support the album, but will the rest of you??? ???
All I'm really saying is that if this new Dogg Pound album flops hard, that could be the end of Snoop's Death Row era before it even barely gets out of the starting gate.
Financial success still matters in this business. I will support the album, but will the rest of you??? ???
This will flop. The only successful artist on Death Row right now is October London
This will flop. The only successful artist on Death Row right now is October London
What is the definition of a successful album these days? Used to be gold (500k) and platinum sold (1M) copies.
Is it downloads? Copies? Something else? Streams?
How many? ???
do we know how they are gonna put the album out ? digital only ? nft bullshit like all last snoop projects ? merch ?
no way oktober london does better numbers than a snoop solo produced by dre or even the new DPG
It's 2024. October is the talk of the town. Everybody wants to work with him. He is one of the best new R&B artists in the game right now. A DPG project will only be anticipated on the West Coast, a Snoop album will make noise only if it is released through a major label with good marketing, just like that Dre project, Jimmy Iovine is involved so there is a major machine behind it.
Outside of Dubcc and the die-hard fans. Who is looking for a DPG album? They have more of a regional impact. October London may not have the loyal fan base yet, but it's coming, the hype is there.
u think the only dpg fans are on here? lol naah bro
another way to tell is based on IG followers
just daz alone got triple the followers of october
i mean if we were talking anderson paak, i would agree
but there’s a market for 90s west coast hip-hop
believe me, i know first hand
I know what you mean, although my reasoning is based on the media outlets ( on IG for example) covering for these individuals. Although they do have a die-hard fan base, that's basically where it stops.
april came and went, may came and went
is Dre mixing the shit out of the album as we speak?
So...a few thoughts.
First off, I think it's very possible that while Dr. Dre wants to make great art, Snoop just wants make songs, and if they suck, they suck. If they're good, they're good. But I don't think it's something that's of much importance to him anymore. He knows his reputation is built mostly on The Chronic and Doggystyle, along stuff he released between Tha Doggfather and Tha Blue Carpet Treatment.
To put it bluntly, Snoop's a celebrity. He likes having fun. He likes making money. I like Snoop. He's cool. But I don't think he's much of an artist anymore. Whereas Dr. Dre's artistry isn't even a question. The question is just whether he will ever release more new stuff.
Now, if he is able to get to a point where he's satisfied with the Snoop album, that'd be beautiful. But to be honest, I don't see it getting done, cuz to me it doesn't seem Snoop has that laser focus that Dre and Eminem and other guys have on their projects.
So...a few thoughts.I agree with you for the most part, but let’s not forget Dre has actually said on record the album is done and is going to come out. Snoop seemed to have spent a lot of time over a two year period working on this album so if it doesn’t come out, it’s on Dre IMO.
First off, I think it's very possible that while Dr. Dre wants to make great art, Snoop just wants make songs, and if they suck, they suck. If they're good, they're good. But I don't think it's something that's of much importance to him anymore. He knows his reputation is built mostly on The Chronic and Doggystyle, along stuff he released between Tha Doggfather and Tha Blue Carpet Treatment.
To put it bluntly, Snoop's a celebrity. He likes having fun. He likes making money. I like Snoop. He's cool. But I don't think he's much of an artist anymore. Whereas Dr. Dre's artistry isn't even a question. The question is just whether he will ever release more new stuff.
Now, if he is able to get to a point where he's satisfied with the Snoop album, that'd be beautiful. But to be honest, I don't see it getting done, cuz to me it doesn't seem Snoop has that laser focus that Dre and Eminem and other guys have on their projects.
To me the most positive sign it;s coming is that the Marsha album is somehow actually getting released... That does send me a very positive sign, but then again it's much more likely it won't, sadly
https://chadkiser.com/2024/06/07/tha-dogg-pound-reveals-snoop-dogg-missionary-album-with-dr-dre-dropping-in-july/ (https://chadkiser.com/2024/06/07/tha-dogg-pound-reveals-snoop-dogg-missionary-album-with-dr-dre-dropping-in-july/)
Tha Dogg Pound members Daz Dillinger and Kurupt have revealed on the Drink Champs podcast, hosted by N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN, that Snoop Dogg’s new album Missionary, produced by the legendary Dr. Dre, is set to release next month under the banners of Death Row Records, Aftermath, and Interscope.
The announcement came around the 16-minute mark of the Drink Champs episode during a conversation about the collaborative efforts behind the W.A.W.G. (We All We Got) album. Kurupt detailed the collective sacrifices made by the group, including the postponement of their individual projects to prioritize the group’s work. This unity and shared focus culminated in the exciting news of Snoop Dogg’s upcoming album, with both Daz and Kurupt confirming its July release.
During the discussion Kurupt revealed, “When Delmar came home, Dogg said DPG time. It was like everybody sacrifice. You damn Skippy. Eastsodaz sacrificed their record, I sacrificed my solo record, Daz sacrificed. We all sacrificed. Dogg sacrificed because he got an album dropping in July! His album with Dr. Dre dropping in July.” Daz concurred, saying, “He got an album with Dr. Dre dropping in July.”
I also can't imagine that it will come out in July, if so I'm hyped, but ... Marsha at the end of June, Eminem is coming soon and Snoop in July, Aftermath wouldn't have a real time to promote when everything comes over each other
July 8) 2024 about to be lit...
I hope Kendrick drops also i June..it is going to be a west coast summer.
I wonder if dre, snoop and the pound will be at Kendrick's concert next week
Snoop replied to The Source News about the July release,
He said Not July more like October.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C8Di1jYMWAM/?igsh=MXJsbmdoNzdrc2h6dA==
Snoop replied to The Source News about the July release,
He said Not July more like October.
Where does he say that? can we get a link please?
Snoop replied to The Source News about the July release,
He said Not July more like October.
I can't believe people still falling for the same song and dance :grumpy:
Two links are included! On Instagram at The Source. Read the comments
i check the links but couldnt see that it will come on october.Don't worry, it won't
i check the links but couldnt see that it will come on october.
I still don’t know how to post images on this site (and have been her close to 2 decades 🙈)
Would’ve sent the screenshot.
[ img ]IMAGE LINK GOES HERE[ /img ]
^ remove the spaces
How do you upload a file, or screenshot from your phone?
Don't worry, it won't
It's just Snoop saying it will. Just like he said it was coming Summer 2023, how the single was coming in "a couple of weeks" back in February and how Dre was gonna start mixing the album mid april.
I still don’t know how to post images on this site (and have been her close to 2 decades 🙈)
Would’ve sent the screenshot.
OK i saw that snoop commented under the post. "more like october".
so it means they started to delay. they start to delay once, it always gets shelved.
OK i saw that snoop commented under the post. "more like october".
so it means they started to delay. they start to delay once, it always gets shelved.
At that time, the album wasn't finished, now it's finished. Interscope sets the release date, it is logical if two albums come from Aftermath/Interscope in the summer, the third will be set in the autumn, so that the promotion does not stand in the way
The only album Dre shelved is Detox. Yes, there’s been talk of various projects over the years, but they were never official projects. If you go back to Break Up To Make Up, Snoop was the only one who mentioned the album, but it never carried any steam as it was never talked about even a week later. Helter Skelter had three tracks recorded; no more to drop an album. Not like Dre mixed the entire album and decided to shelve it. No doubt, Dre is a perfectionist, which is why there’s so much anticipation behind Missionary. Snoop follows my Instagram. I go back to 1992. Let’s be real: if the album were being produced by Daz, Quik, Jelly Roll, Battlecat, etc., it would be dope, but let’s not kid ourselves. Would you actually care like this? The anticipation and perfection are what make this special. Before Doggystyle dropped, it was the same thing. Pushed back time and time again until Interscope gave a deadline. Maybe Snoop shouldn’t have said we’re dropping a single in a couple weeks, but when it’s ready, it’s ready. Some of ya’ll need to stop speculating.
Right!
The only album Dre shelved is Detox. Yes, there’s been talk of various projects over the years, but they were never official projects. If you go back to Break Up To Make Up, Snoop was the only one who mentioned the album, but it never carried any steam as it was never talked about even a week later. Helter Skelter had three tracks recorded; no more to drop an album. Not like Dre mixed the entire album and decided to shelve it. No doubt, Dre is a perfectionist, which is why there’s so much anticipation behind Missionary. Snoop follows my Instagram. I go back to 1992. Let’s be real: if the album were being produced by Daz, Quik, Jelly Roll, Battlecat, etc., it would be dope, but let’s not kid ourselves. Would you actually care like this? The anticipation and perfection are what make this special. Before Doggystyle dropped, it was the same thing. Pushed back time and time again until Interscope gave a deadline. Maybe Snoop shouldn’t have said we’re dropping a single in a couple weeks, but when it’s ready, it’s ready. Some of ya’ll need to stop speculating.
Its shelved dude
The only album Dre shelved is Detox. Yes, there’s been talk of various projects over the years, but they were never official projects. If you go back to Break Up To Make Up, Snoop was the only one who mentioned the album, but it never carried any steam as it was never talked about even a week later. Helter Skelter had three tracks recorded; no more to drop an album. Not like Dre mixed the entire album and decided to shelve it. No doubt, Dre is a perfectionist, which is why there’s so much anticipation behind Missionary. Snoop follows my Instagram. I go back to 1992. Let’s be real: if the album were being produced by Daz, Quik, Jelly Roll, Battlecat, etc., it would be dope, but let’s not kid ourselves. Would you actually care like this? The anticipation and perfection are what make this special. Before Doggystyle dropped, it was the same thing. Pushed back time and time again until Interscope gave a deadline. Maybe Snoop shouldn’t have said we’re dropping a single in a couple weeks, but when it’s ready, it’s ready. Some of ya’ll need to stop speculating.
Dr. dre announced album with ice cube "helter skelter"... it was even in a death row release booklet. it's shelved.
thy kingdome come... they even released single with music video... it's shelved.
hittman album, announced at the end of forget about dre video... it's shelved.
bishop lamont, the reformation album... it's shelved.
Rakim album "oh my god"... it's shelved.
At that time, the album wasn't finished, now it's finished. Interscope sets the release date, it is logical if two albums come from Aftermath/Interscope in the summer, the third will be set in the autumn, so that the promotion does not stand in the way
Feel you about King T, the only other album technically shelved. The others were just mentions.Sorry but what do you mean "mentions? All of those were real albums in the official works. Ok, I give you Helter Skelter, they only did like 3 songs after all. But Ooh My God was in the real progress.
interscope?!?!
who cares with them?
this album aint death row?
or doggystyle?
why interscope?
since when snoop is on the label?
it is going to be an aftermath/interscope/deathrow release.
just like silk sonic album.
sure?
is this official?
sure?
is this official?
Sorry but what do you mean "mentions? All of those were real albums in the official works. Ok, I give you Helter Skelter, they only did like 3 songs after all. But Ooh My God was in the real progress.
What about Statlanta then? There was a listening party for that album, if I recall correctly, and the partial tracklist was released. What about Busta's 2nd Aftermath album? Street King Immortal? Jesus Is King II?
Sorry but what do you mean "mentions? All of those were real albums in the official works. Ok, I give you Helter Skelter, they only did like 3 songs after all. But Ooh My God was in the real progress.
What about Statlanta then? There was a listening party for that album, if I recall correctly, and the partial tracklist was released. What about Busta's 2nd Aftermath album? Street King Immortal? Jesus Is King II?
Casablanco will fail commercially. it will be one of the worst selling aftermath records release. after that dre will think twice about releasing Missionary.
what i believe is snoop will take some songs from missionary and add other stuff he does with different producers, then he will combine it and release them with a different album title.
Rakim did multiple interviews why his album never came out due to creative differences. The bottom line is 9.9 times out of 10 Dre not going to release your music, let alone a full album with his tracks unless you’re a groundbreaking or multi-platinum artist. Stat Quo, even Busta isn’t that. We're here talking about this because the mystique and anticipation Dre brings. Our definition of shelved is different.
Busta is dope but not on that level for Dre. Just facts
Rakim did multiple interviews why his album never came out due to creative differences. The bottom line is 9.9 times out of 10 Dre not going to release your music, let alone a full album with his tracks unless you’re a groundbreaking or multi-platinum artist. Stat Quo, even Busta isn’t that. We're here talking about this because the mystique and anticipation Dre brings. Our definition of shelved is different.I still don't get what did you mean by "those were just mentions"? They weren't just mentions, those albums were officially in the works, some of them were almost completed, there were official tracklists. So what Rakim's album didn't come out because of creative differences - it still didn't come out, which means the album got shelved.
Busta is dope but not on that level for Dre. Just facts
I still don't get what did you mean by "those were just mentions"? They weren't just mentions, those albums were officially in the works, some of them were almost completed, there were official tracklists. So what Rakim's album didn't come out because of creative differences - it still didn't come out, which means the album got shelved.
Your logic here is flawed. Since when is Busta "not on that level" for Dre? Did you forget that they did and actually managed to release his album on Aftermath? It was his second album that got shelved. Not to mention the shit they did prior to that and how Dre always been praising Busta as one of the most unique and greatest artists.
Busta ain’t Snoop and would never get a full Dre-produced album. Big deal his first was on Aftermath. How many songs did he produce?Yes lol, it's a big deal. He's one of the very few artists that actually got to release the album with Dre.
You’re too hung up on shelved and think because there’s a track list, it’s automatically happening. Was Eazy-E “Temporary Insanity” and NWA's third joint “Not These Ni**gaz Again” shelved? What’s your point about Dre? If you’re convinced Missionary is not coming based on Dre’s long history of shelving projects, why are you so interested?Man what the hell are you even talking about? We're discussing the albums Dre had shelved over the years. The real albums that were officially announced and finished or were really close to being finished. Yes, NWA reunion album was never real (there wasn't a tracklist for it btw), it was more like an idea and was exactly what you said - a mention. Just like Cube 2003 Aftermath album. But Statlanta, Busta second album, Jon Connor album, Hittman album, King T - all of those were done/almost done and still got shelved.
Yes lol, it's a big deal. He's one of the very few artists that actually got to release the album with Dre.What am I talking about? You’re an idiot. Dre didn’t push those albums dawg because they wouldn’t have done big numbers. I’m tired of going back and forth with you. Not my problem you’re oblivious to reality. You must be from another country. All of em were shelved, you happy now? Missionary will be released. No one gives a fuk about Jon Conner, and Stat Quo.
He produced/co-produced more than a half of the album, which is the biggest part in production he ever he played on any of Aftermath releases other than Relapse and 2001. So what's your point?Man what the hell are you even talking about? We're discussing the albums Dre had shelved over the years. The real albums that were officially announced and finished or were really close to being finished. Yes, NWA reunion album was never real (there wasn't a tracklist for it btw), it was more like an idea and was exactly what you said - a mention. Just like Cube 2003 Aftermath album. But Statlanta, Busta second album, Jon Connor album, Hittman album, King T - all of those were done/almost done and still got shelved.
What am I talking about? You’re an idiot. Dre didn’t push those albums dawg because they wouldn’t have done big numbers. I’m tired of going back and forth with you. Not my problem you’re oblivious to reality. You must be from another country. All of em were shelved, you happy now? Missionary will be released. No one gives a fuk about Jon Conner, and Stat Quo.What reality, you dumbass clown? It's not my fault you can't read. Your original statement was that Dre had never shelved any projects
The only album Dre shelved is Detox. Yes, there’s been talk of various projects over the years, but they were never official projects.We gave you the examples of other official projects that were completed that Dre scrapped. Nobody was talking about the sales or how people don't give a fuck about that or this artist.
Stat Quo would've easily go platinum back in 2006 btw, he had the whole Shady/Aftermath camp behind him. So you're wrong again.
So, you've been proven wrong and got mad lol What reality, you dumbass clown? It's not my fault you can't read. Your original statement was that Dre had never shelved any projects We gave you the examples of other official projects that were completed that Dre scrapped. Nobody was talking about the sales or how people don't give a fuck about that or this artist.Proven wrong? You’re a fucking idiot. I’ve been in this game long enough. I gave the main album people give a fuck about when they think of Dre shelving music. Nobody gives a shit about Stat Quo, Busta 2nd album, etc. It was a generalized statement… I told you three fucking times Rakim wasn’t shelved, but you’re too stupid to understand the concept. I know you not even from the States. Talking shit like you're trying to school someone who knows more about this West Coast shit than you ever will. This was about Missionary and why he not shelving Snoop.
But if you think Dre didn't release them because he was afraid of them not selling well then you're a fucking dumbass. Acting like Truth Hurts, Anderson Paak and The Wash don't exist lol. Casablanco ain't gonna be a success as well and yet it's still coming out. And everyone knows that even if Missionary will come out, it won't be a huge hit either, people don't care about Dre and Snoop's new music that much.
Stat Quo would've easily go platinum back in 2006 btw, he had the whole Shady/Aftermath camp behind him. So you're wrong again.
Proven wrong? You’re a fucking idiot. I’ve been in this game long enough. I gave the main album people give a fuck about when they think of Dre shelving music. Nobody gives a shit about Stat Quo, Busta 2nd album, etc. It was a generalized statement… I told you three fucking times Rakim wasn’t shelved, but you’re too stupid to understand the concept. I know you not even from the States. Sitting up on here talking shit like you're trying to school someone who knows more about this West Coast shit than you ever will. This was about Missionary and why he not shelving Snoop.Been in this game long enough but still a clueless moron, yeah, sure. Shit, you're so dumb you don't even understand that this shit doesn't have anything to do with the west coast, so your co-called "knowledge" is of no use, it's literally just about you making up random ass conclusions and typing up statements that don't even make sense. I showed you your own quote with you saying Detox was the only album Dre ever shelved. People in this thread gave you multiple other examples of Dre shelving finished projects. And now you trying to say this isn't what you meant, that it was a generalized statement or making up the reason why those albums didn't come out... Don't embarrass yourself any further, you clearly said Detox was the only one, but even if we gon pretend like no one cared about Stat or Busta - so what, their albums were shelved anyway, so you just straight up contradicting yourself.
SQ not going platinum back then. Dre always wanted to work w/ Marsha. Missionary would do better than you think lol. You don’t know shit.
Been in this game long enough but still a clueless moron, yeah, sure. Shit, you're so dumb you don't even understand that this shit doesn't have anything to do with the west coast, so your co-called "knowledge" is of no use, it's literally just about you making up random ass conclusions and typing up statements that don't even make sense. I showed you your own quote with you saying Detox was the only album Dre ever shelved. People in this thread gave you multiple other examples of Dre shelving finished projects. And now you trying to say this isn't what you meant, that it was a generalized statement or making up the reason why those albums didn't come out... Don't embarrass yourself any further, you clearly said Detox was the only one, but even if we gon pretend like no one cared about Stat or Busta - so what, their albums were shelved anyway, so you just straight up contradicting yourself.
You saying Stat Quo wouldn't be platinum in 2006 basically proves that you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not even a fan of his, but everybody who was around back then knows how huge the G-unit/Shady/Aftermath movement was. You're probably wasn't even alive back then, so it makes sense shit sounds wild to you.
By the way, I can tell you aren't from the States either and you no older than 16, judging by what you're saying.
Motherfucker I’m in LA. Snoop, Warren G follow my IG project. Ask Sccit what’s up. Not alive back then? 48 dumbass.
Mid 00’s Shady/GUnit straight trash. And Quo still ain’t going platinum. FOH.. w/ that nonsense. Keep writing yourself to death. You live on this shit right… another idiot from Europe Lmao. Still harping on “shelved albums” what a fucking clown. 🤡
i'm in Turkey, snoop and warren doesnt follow my IG project.
detox is not the only shelved dr. dre project.
i also claim that i can talk about west coast hiphop as much as anybody in whole wide world.
also i dont need anybody to back me up to proove that i am "somebody". because i'm a grown up and i have self respect.
Let's stay peaceful Fellas. And Yes. MISSIONARY is coming!
well its not a stretch to say Snoop will release an album
but to say that Dre will be producing the whole album is a stretch
well its not a stretch to say Snoop will release an album
but to say that Dre will be producing the whole album is a stretch
Motherfucker I’m in LA. Snoop, Warren G follow my IG project. Not alive back then? lol 48 dumbass.Nah fuck it, I'm so done with this fucking moron lol
Mid 00’s Shady/GUnit straight trash. And Quo still ain’t going platinum. FOH
Keep writing yourself to death. You live on this shit… another idiot from Europe. Still harping on “shelved albums”?? what a fucking clown. 🤡
Nah fuck it, I'm so done with this fucking moron lolBet your sorry ass from Russia or Germany? Can’t even speak English. Your opinion is irrelevant. I’m a MF historian w/ this shit. Back to 85. I got that Spade mixtape… Mixmaster Ken mailed. OG Compton shit recorded in their garage c. 1984. Helicopter and his early mixes w Toddy. Absolutely oblivious to this you are. You have no idea what I’m talking about. Saw LL w/ “Can’t Live Without My Radio” when pops shot American Bandstand in 86. You know nothing about this rap game. Here you are… trying to run game like idk about the crap you mentioned from 2006 Shady/GUnit haha. Check yourself.
This 13 year old internet gangsta can't read, can't stay on topic for 5 minutes, always bringing up shit no one was talking about. It's like talking to a fucking wall with a clown face drawn on it lol
Common fellas, its the internet, everyone has an opinion. Lets leave it at that.Nah, having an opinion is one thing though. But throwing tantrums because you've been proven wrong and can't accept it is another.
At least we got some WAWG and Chupacabra for summer jams… and as we all hope - that Missionary album this year!
Im personally looking forward to Snoop broadcasting and hopefully we will see him spotlight Missionary!
PanicAttractionLA you actually are brain damaged, aren't you? You just typed a bunch of words that don't even make sense. I made it perfectly clear that we were talking about Dre's work ethics, so you "knowledge" of west coast history that has nothing to do with Aftermath was of no-use, but you decided to demonstrate it anyway for some reason lol. Which once again proves what I said to you in my previous post. Here's hoping you'll learn how to stay on topics in discussions when you're older.Nah, having an opinion is one thing though. But throwing tantrums because you've been proven wrong and can't accept it is another.You just don’t get it. It all made sense but clearly over your head. You didn’t prove shit, and coming from you means nothing. You’re an idiot… move the fuck on freak.
All made sense but over your head. You’re an obsessive freak.Funny, because I even highlighted the part to show you that it doesn't
crap you mentioned from 2006 Shady/GUnit haha. Check yourself.Who said anything about the quality of those album? All I said was that that movement was huge, and everybody was going platinum in their camp (unless they drop an absolute shit of a project), especially when Dre was overseeing your shit.
Funny, because I even highlighted the part to show you that it doesn'tExactly, I don’t read your bullshit. 🎯
AlsoWho said anything about the quality of those album? All I said was that that movement was huge, and everybody was going platinum in their camp (unless they drop an absolute shit of a project), especially when Dre was overseeing your shit.
So once again you've proved that you can't even read lol
Nah, that's it, now I'm really done with your ass
Bet your sorry ass from Russia or Germany? Can’t even speak English. Your opinion is irrelevant. I’m a MF historian w/ this shit. Back to 85. I got that Spade mixtape… Mixmaster Ken mailed. OG Compton shit recorded in their garage c. 1984. Helicopter and his early mixes w Toddy. Absolutely oblivious to this you are. You have no idea what I’m talking about. Saw LL w/ “Can’t Live Without My Radio” when pops shot American Bandstand in 86. You know nothing about this rap game. Here you are… trying to run game like idk about the crap you mentioned from 2006 Shady/GUnit haha. Check yourself.
Btw. Dre shelved a lot. Only one counts “Detox”. Fuck what you think. Only other project anyone gave a shit about was HS. All this nonsense from you — Jon Conner, SQ, Busta… you forgot Dawn Robinson, Bishop, Slim NO ONE cares. Your topic bored me. Talking the same shit 3 days lol what albums he shelved. Fucking lame
Break off your IG. Let me see the bitch you are, fronting over your phone. Faggot
That’s wonderful.
That makes you realize what a dirty piece of shit you are
Another clown. Fuck offR.I.P. i don't know who you are in real , but I can figure it out thx insta
R.I.P. i don't know who you are in real , but I can figure it out thx insta
All I can say is watch your butt because when you go out there might be someone waiting for you
Just a side note, the Russians are really good at this sort of thing, just knocking out a person
R.I.P. i don't know who you are in real , but I can figure it out thx instaHaha you ain’t shit.
All I can say is watch your butt because when you go out there might be someone waiting for you
Just a side note, the Russians are really good at this sort of thing, just knocking out a person
Bet he’s shitting himself now…Bet you from there too. Idiot
Haha you ain’t shit.
I’ll give you my address MF.
Stupid Russian…
Haha you ain’t shit.
I’ll give you my address MF.
Stupid Russian…
Bet you from there too. Idiot
I'm neither Russian nor from Europe, but please give me your addressGet at my IG I’ll break it off. Pussy
PM
He has such a small cock after all
Get at my IG I’ll break it off. Pussy
Oh well, first a big snub and now, your mother was with me yesterday and told me what a little son of a bitch you areDummy I told you IG. Stupid fuck.
Adress?
I'll let your whole family bleed dry, you little freak
Oh well, first a big snub and now, your mother was with me yesterday and told me what a little son of a bitch you areTypical Russian 😂
Adress?
I'll let your whole family bleed dry, you little freak
Bet you from there too. Idiot
I was being sarcastic. You actualy make sense unlike 99% of posters on here.I appreciate that. Been around awhile and know my history. Just irked me all the shit before.
I was being sarcastic. You actualy make sense unlike 99% of posters on here.You might wanna reread this clown's posts in this thread. All this guy does is backtracking, changing topics, saying random shit even he himself probably doesn't understand and throwing tantrums because he can't handle being wrong. That's the oppisite of making sense.
You might wanna reread this clown's posts in this thread. All this guy does is backtracking, changing topics, saying random shit even he himself probably doesn't understand and throwing tantrums because he can't handle being wrong. That's the oppisite of making sense.This fool again… lmao
Yeah it's all good
and on that note, let’s move on folks…..
missionary is still looking like a go .. all that other shit is irrelevant
:urwelcome:
I appreciate that. Been around awhile and know my history. Just irked me all the shit before.Drop knowledge if you have or leave it. Except of you, nobody here care about people's nationality, religion or color. You should try being a civilized human being first. You have to understand that nobody gives a fuck if your mom did threesome with snoop and warren.
My father did photography back in the day for celebs, TV, magazines, DR, etc. Snoop knows him well, and occasionally Dogg reposts my IG 90s pics. I know his in-house engineer (Tha Compound) keeps me in the loop about the project. Definitely happening...
Drop knowledge if you have or leave it. Except of you, nobody here care about people's nationality, religion or color. You should try being a civilized human being first. You have to understand that nobody gives a fuck if your mom did threesome with snoop and warren.
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is hilarious
But seriously guys, move on from this.....This is supposed to be about music.
All these internet insults & threats should be left for kids.
I know some posts can be irritating but just give your own point of view and move on
Classic Dubcc conversations.;D ;D ;D
Classic Dubcc conversations.
Snoop Dogg launches Cali Cocktails
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American rapper Snoop Dogg has teamed up with wine producer 19 Crimes to create a new ready-to-drink (RTD) brand, Cali Cocktails.
The 9% ABV RTDs are inspired by Snoop Dogg’s ‘laidback Cali lifestyle’
The cocktails are said to be inspired by Snoop Dogg’s ‘laidback Cali lifestyle’ and come in two flavours: Smokin’ Strawberry Margarita and Long Beach Lemonade.
The cocktails are made with an agave-wine base and are lightly carbonated.
The RTD doesn’t mark the first time Snoop Dogg has teamed up with the 19 Crimes, the rapper has also collaborated with the brand on a number of wines.
Kris Ann Brady, vice-president of marketing at 19 Crimes, said: “We’re thrilled to continue our partnership with Snoop Dogg and celebrate another hot product launch.
“19 Crimes has always pushed the boundaries of traditional wine culture, and together with Snoop, we’re ready to disrupt the RTD space.”
Cali Cocktails are recommended straight from the can or over ice, and in situations such as summer parties, barbecues, sporting events, and concerts.
A four-pack can be purchased for US$14.99 nationwide in the US. The cocktails have an ABV of 9% per 335ml can.
Snoop Dogg added: “It took a while to perfect this one, but it’s just on time. California has always been home, so it only made sense to celebrate that California state of mind as my next ‘Cali’ creation. To everyone doing their thing, in Cali, or elsewhere, this toast is for you. This coast is for you.”
19 Crimes first expanded into spirits in February with a rum.
Meanwhile, Snoop Dogg recently launched another line of RTDs, Gin & Juice, with fellow musician and rapper Dr Dre.
Snoop Dogg to Auction Off His Own Memorabilia — Is This a Major New Revenue Opportunity for Artists? (EXCLUSIVE)
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It’s no mystery that music memorabilia is a booming business. The Gibson J-160E acoustic guitar on which John Lennon wrote many early Beatles hits went for $2.5 million at an auction. Bob Dylan’s handwritten lyrics for his iconic 1965 song “Like a Rolling Stone” sold for $2 million. And in the most valuable auction item in hip-hop history — a gold, ruby and diamond crown ring designed and worn by Tupac Shakur — went for over a million last year (to Drake, natch).
The catch? In many if not most such cases, the artist or their estate got nothing: These items ended up in the hands of people who knew how to monetize them, and the profits went to the seller and the auction house, which commonly takes 20-30% of the sale price.
Music superstardom has a lot of ephemera — along with top-value items like the ones above, there are clothes, setlists, scripts, riders, schedules and other items that are either used briefly and discarded, or sit in storage units for years or decades. But how many fans do you see gathered around the front of the stage after a concert, begging the roadies for a broken drumstick or one of the setlists taped to the floor? Some artists have gotten wise to the hustle and refuse to sign autographs, having seen them pop up on eBay — days later and for ludicrous sums — once too often.
Now, one artist is partnering with a new sports-and-music auction house to take that hustle into his own hands: Of course, it’s Snoop Dogg.
The iconic rapper has partnered with the Realest, a memorabilia-authentication and auction company founded by producer and radio host Scott “DJ Skee” Keeney, to auction off such items with his full participation. The offerings range from relatively low-end items like photos, Playstations, autographed riders and production books to autographed TV scripts (of episodes of “The Boondocks” he voiced), platinum discs, master recording tapes (although the copyrights to the music do not come with the tapes), autographed jackets and jerseys — and even a Death Row Records chain in a custom box autographed by Snoop.
(See the auction items here https://therealest.com/snoopdogg)
“This is shit that we have, but we didn’t know it was worth something,” Snoop says of the project, called “The Shiznit.”
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“The items he is putting up are iconic,” Keeney tells Variety. “Everything from lyrics, awards — like ‘Pimp of the Year’! — unreleased tapes, outfits, sample toys, photos, scripts, concert riders, even a Snoop-authenticated smoked blunt in a crazy display case and ashtray.”
Phase 1 of the auction launches today (May 21) and ends June 2. A preview event is taking place in New York today, with one I Los Angeles on May 29. Items are also being exhibited at various locations across the country.
While there probably aren’t any $2 million Snoop lyric sheets up for auction just yet, this move is notable because the artist is taking control of a process from which they have traditionally been excluded. And in an era when streaming has made most artists’ profit from their recordings almost minimal, it represents a new revenue opportunity that in theory is not much different from merch or meet and greets.
While such authorized auctions have been common in the sports world for years, “Memorabilia has not been a real thing in music,” Keeney says. “Items listed are often either fake or stolen, and hip-hop has been wildly under-represented as well.” He pointed to Operation Bullpen, an FBI investigation into widespread fraud in celebrity autographs and sports memorabilia that resulted 63 arrests and reportedly uncovered more than $100 million in fraud from 1999 through 2006; that operation resulted in a much more-thorough authentication process. Keeney declined to tell Variety what percentage of sales his company retains, but characterizes the arrangement as a partnership.
The company has taken the same authentication protocol used by Major League Baseball, with the stated goal of giving fans items straight from the source. Keeney launched the Realest late in 2023 in beta, running tests with the long-running metal band Megadeth (which saw a guitar used by frontman Dave Mustaine sell for nearly $15,000), University of Michigan football, and the Big Ten basketball conference, as well as items from Latin superstar J Balvin and opera singer Andrea Bocelli. The company recently secured $4.6 million in seed funding in a round led by KB Partners.
According to its press materials, the Realest uses a two-tiered system of authentication: The first layer is witness-based authentication, similar to MLB’s, to certify the memorabilia and establish a connection to its source (an athlete or musician). Afterward, the company uses a hologram sticker and hidden markings — in cooperation with with OpSec, a company specializing in sports apparel security — to give an item the equivalent of a watermark to protect its value.
In order to protect its own integrity, Keeney says the Realest has been split into two separate business entities: TRuEST handles security and employs a network of authenticators, while the Realest handles promotion and sales. The combined company now has 20 full-time employees and roughly 50 contracted authenticators.
“Snoop is passionate about helping introduce an entirely new revenue stream for artists that is not just a typical ‘estate’ or garage-type sale of items, but from documented and authenticated ephemera,” Keeney says. “Items like setlists, stage equipment, outfits, signage, and more are things that fans desire but can’t find. It helps to build a new revenue stream for artists.”
Meanwhile back in camp Snoopy -
any bidders?
Custom Made Brazilian License Plate from the "Beautiful" Music Video Set, when he has here to film "Beautiful" videoclip. This was dope. ;D 8)
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This Cali drink is going to ruin his relationship with Jimmy and Dre for sure, the Gin & Juice is only as good as Snoop is the only one promoting it everywhere he goes and Dre recently did with his promotion at Kendrick’s Pop Out show in Inglewood
Jimmy dropped 50 for the head phones deal he had at the time Beats was building up (50 was before Beats with some weird ass phones too) and then boom 50 started talking shit about then on hot97 and breakfast club at the time and he dropped that album where he was half gorilla or something on it … surprised Dre cleared the Smoke track he produced on it
I want to see if there album truly comes out or if this is the last we see of them two together…
Is Snoop a billionaire yet?
I'm neither Russian nor from Europe, but please give me your address
PM
He has such a small cock after all
but you are in Deutschland ::)
but you are in Deutschland ::)
You are sure of that, so someone here is revealing the IP addresses?
All mods have the IP addresses for all forum users, for security reasons and to ban idiots like you, who don't add anything to the forum. :mindblown:
You are sure of that, so someone here is revealing the IP addresses?
That’s the owner of the forum you retard ::)
Sccit ban this mothafucka for posting Torpor and Hibernation Shivers for free on the forum. That dhits illegal you dumb fuck
Snoop saw that Em announced a new single and he goes nuts again. He cant stand Em is getting attention while dre is about to shelve the missionary peoject.
Are you making up scenarios in your head?
Snoop reposted the new Em’s snippet.
Em is Aftermath/ Interscooe artist and been calling his own shots for a while now.
Snoop have good relationship with Dre but not Dre’s Artist or Interscope’s 🤷🏽♂️
yes he did becuz (im making up again) i guess he has a feature on Em's new album.
if you've watched jimmy kimmel show, you could see how snoop got so uncomfortable when dre announced new eminem album, after that snoop decided to release a new dpg album, recorded so fast and released it the same day eminem released its first single houdini.
yes he did becuz (im making up again) i guess he has a feature on Em's new album.
if you've watched jimmy kimmel show, you could see how snoop got so uncomfortable when dre announced new eminem album, after that snoop decided to release a new dpg album, recorded so fast and released it the same day eminem released its first single houdini.
So the album is not finished as some claim. It’s not a matter of mastering. They don’t have enough songs.
Some of you really embarrassing with that snoop looked jealous and uncomfortable shit on the show when Dre announced Eminem album. It’s clear you don’t understand black mannerisms at all - the boy was just being respectful and kept his head down and stayed quiet like he should have when it was announced - not a cent of being uncomfortable at all LOL
i understand black mannerism very correctly. i understood it also when snoop mentioned eminem is not in his top 10 list just because of he couldnt get an eminem feature on his album. there was dr. dre and 50 cent there too and both were so hyped with the new eminem album announcement. but snoop prefered to show everybody how uncomfortable he is with em is stealing the show while even he is not there. that wasnt because of respect. that's my idea. lots of people noticed and discussed about this issue also.
Exactly. These clowns in this thread saying Missionary is done. They don’t have a clue what they are talking about. Clearly it’s not. Nor anywhere even close if Snoop is still in the studio recording vocals as of yesterday. Hasn’t even hit mixing or mastering stages yet which take a long time with Dre.
that’s not how it works
they could have 90% vocals 90% mixing 90% mastering …. they don’t necessarily do everything separately
i understand black mannerism very correctly. i understood it also when snoop mentioned eminem is not in his top 10 list just because of he couldnt get an eminem feature on his album. there was dr. dre and 50 cent there too and both were so hyped with the new eminem album announcement. but snoop prefered to show everybody how uncomfortable he is with em is stealing the show while even he is not there. that wasnt because of respect. that's my idea. lots of people noticed and discussed about this issue also.
Agreed. Snoop could be recording some adlibs or double vocals or a few things extra. Or just a few outstanding items. Wouldn't stop the entire process.
At least there is progress!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/C3LJG2DRSuy/?igsh=MWNhanp6cGdpZm5lYQ== (https://www.instagram.com/p/C3LJG2DRSuy/?igsh=MWNhanp6cGdpZm5lYQ==)
guys. this is Slim Shady laying in the body bag.
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so this is a teaser of a music video of an eminem song from his upcoming album.
it might be Guilty Conscience 2 ft. Snoop and Dre maybe.
with one teaser they teased gin and juice drink, Eminem album and upcoming Missionary.
its fucking genius, what a marketing plan.
guys. this is Slim Shady laying in the body bag.Wow I hope that's accurate and we get a Dre/Em/Snoop music video
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so this is a teaser of a music video of an eminem song from his upcoming album.
it might be Guilty Conscience 2 ft. Snoop and Dre maybe.
with one teaser they teased gin and juice drink, Eminem album and upcoming Missionary.
its fucking genius, what a marketing plan.
guys. this is Slim Shady laying in the body bag.
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so this is a teaser of a music video of an eminem song from his upcoming album.
it might be Guilty Conscience 2 ft. Snoop and Dre maybe.
with one teaser they teased gin and juice drink, Eminem album and upcoming Missionary.
its fucking genius, what a marketing plan.
you were wrong lol there is no dre no snoop on this... trash album?
lol….not trash maybe expectations was too high.honestly this is ICU production style not dre...
Still good album.
I like the Dr Dre productions on the album (Lucifer & Road Rage), these and the Marsha album gives me hope for Missionary, looks like Dre moved on from the Compton style of production (Thank God).
honestly this is ICU production style not dre...
.Dope advice, I think I'm gonna do just that, starting with your post
Yalll need to quit believin aythang you read lold
Haterz like u Iz wutz fukkin up da game. Like the big man Dre said «gang afiliatoms no need to menson names». Missionary Iz cumin out soon yall, and it be mastapiece, still, the new Dre shit is from what word on da streetz Iz anotha level
Dre set the standard for albums talked about forever but never droppin. Suga Free's been talkin about his new album on IG for like a year with no proof of anything, just "it's comin". Missionary same thing.
Hopefully it comes out with the Olympics, or in October.
I just hope what the D.O.C. Said is true…the Deathrow sound updated for 2024.
New Interview with Dre and Snoop
https://youtube.com/watch?v=pemAAo9RFp4?si=dKWKR0kQomoTgysK
Daz said it’s coming in July…
Snoop had corrected it, rather in October
Album is coming, fuck tha haters. They said the same thing about Marsha's album, and it came out, without any promotion, entire produced by Dr. Dre. :banana_trippin:
“I feel like, right now, I’m personally making some of the best music I’ve ever made in my life. I feel like I’m in this new thing and this new saga, and it feels amazing. We have a new product, we have new music. I’m making brand new music with my brother Snoop, and everything feels amazing. The product is fantastic. Visually, we’re doing some really impressive things with film, so, yeah, this is just the next saga of our thing.” - Dr Dre
“I have so many songs, man. I feel like, let’s just say, from 1985 until right now, I probably only put out, spitballing, just 30% of the music I’ve made. I just love recording. I just go on and just record and talk shit. I have a shitload of music in the vault, that being one of them.” - Dr Dre
Yeah!! They also said the same thing about Detox and The Reformation and Thy Kingdom Come and….oh, uh nevermind.
Statlanta was completely finished and never came out.
Did not know that.
snoop and dre said that album will include 16 tracks and will be released in autumn.
Coming out in DecemberLmao
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MKbAUfQI67U?si=wDYrGq1Kr4TXotEQ
At some point, Dre will knock him over for it :-)
Dre is still working on the album and is currently mixing it and Snoop lets the songs be heard by the press, unprofessional
Snoop Dogg: No way me and Dre get cancelled. You can’t cancel the culture.
Last week, the rapper and Dr Dre performed together in London for the first time in 30 years. He talks to David Ellis about his legacy, canned cocktails — and why laws don’t matter to him
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Dr Dre walks into the room and glances around. “No drinks in here?” he says. “No shots?! What the f***, man?” He turns heel to the hotel corridor. It is a corridor littered with humidifiers panting as they try to clear the smell of marijuana. It is a fruitless, futile task. There is one in the room, too. Dre returns, drink in hand, now with Snoop Dogg. “Turn that shit off,” Snoop says, nodding to it. “Don’t be f***ing with my smoke.” He pulls a brass bin to the table as a makeshift ashtray, and lights a joint about the length and width of his middle finger. The smoking laws over here aren’t posing a problem, then? Snoop grins. “Laws? What laws?” His eyes are the colour of a cue ball.
Though the pair’s fame will forever be linked to each other — thanks to albums The Chronic (1992), Doggystyle (1993) and 2001 (er, 1999) — it is unusual to see them together in the UK. Last Thursday, at a party in Flipper’s Roller Boogie that drew Jude Bellingham, Idris Elba, Anya Taylor-Joy, Shaquille O’Neal and Lebron James, they gave their first performance together here in more than three decades. Astonishingly, Eminem joined them; it was a historic show. “We only ever performed here one time,” says Snoop. “Brixton Academy. All hood, not like the shit we’re on now.” Why wait so long? Dre shrugs. “There is no reason.” Snoop likens them to Batman and Robin; often separate, but better together.
That era, of The Chronic and Doggystyle, seems to be a theme for Dre, 59, and Snoop, 52. In 2022, Snoop bought Death Row records, on which both albums were released. The label was first founded by Dre in 1991, under Jimmy Iovine, but filed for bankruptcy in 2006. How do they feel about having it back? “None of us liked it in the beginning, let’s say that,” says Snoop, surprisingly. “But to me, it was a business move. I’m smart enough to know that this is something that’s connected to me and my legacy. And if I control it, I’ll make the value even more than what it is. And then at the same time, I can restore my legacy that people think is smut and think is negative. And one day soon, I’ll sell it for a whole lot of money.”
When you are the culture, you dictate what the outcome is. Dr Dre and I are leaders, not followers
Does he worry about his legacy? Some of Snoop and Dre’s songs are notoriously packed with misogyny and violence. Does he write differently now? “Yes, I’m more mature. I have a bigger fan base and I’m smarter now and I’m sharper. And I’m thankful that I got somebody like him” — he stabs at Dre with his blunt — “who’s really helping the writing, because I was getting stuck.”
Does that mean he avoids certain topics, worried he’ll be cancelled? “No way. No way we get cancelled, man. We are the culture. You can’t cancel the culture.” He sits up, and twists his mouth in sarcasm. “It’s just a bunch of motherf***ers that you don’t know, just typing, saying that you ain’t hot no more. But when you are the culture, you dictate what the outcome of everything is. You don’t follow that shit, you lead.” Dre raises his glass. “We’re not followers.”
Evidently not. At a time when sales of gin across the globe are in decline, the pair are here to promote Gin&Juice (bydreandsnoop.com), a line of canned cocktails named for Snoop’s debut single. Iovine is another investor. “We didn’t just put our faces, our names on a product,” says Dre. “We went to the laboratory and the whole shit and created everything from the bottom up.”
I imagine the tasting sessions must have been fun. “They were,” nods Dre, taking a drink. “For me, at least. Snoop, Jimmy, not so much.” Why not, Snoop?
“This is the shit I do,” says Snoop, through a haze. “In the beginning stages, when you trying to get it right, you have to really like alcohol to keep trying it over and over and over again. Dr Dre, he really likes gin. I really like this shit.” He nods to his blunt again; he doesn’t drink at all, I notice. “Now, if this was a smoking contest or a smoking brand, I would be the sampling motherf***er...”
“When all of us bring all of our expertise to the table, and when we’re together and really on our shit, nobody can f*** with us,” says Dre, with what might be the most gangsta tag line in canned cocktails — a category over here more readily associated with gentle days in the park, trips on the train, hen dos. Of the four flavours (melon, citrus, passion fruit, apricot) Dre’s recommendation is the apricot. The passion fruit tastes rather like fizzy Um Bongo.
Beside the tinnies, Snoop and Dre are also promoting Snoop’s new album. Although Snoop has featured on Dre’s biggest hits — Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang, Still D.R.E., The Next Episode — it’s been a long time since they partnered for such a substantial project. “Doggystyle is the only album I produced for Snoop,” says Dre. “Thirty years later we decided to get together and flip it, and call this one Missionary.” It will be out in the autumn, he thinks, and 16 tracks long.
Iovine pokes his head around the door. “It’s extraordinary, extraordinary,” he says of the record. “Snoop is in a whole other place, it’s really fantastic.” Snoop nods: “It’s my best work.”
“The record stands against anything. It also stands very, very high against what’s being made today,” Iovine continues. “Of course, what’s being made today… I said once that fame has replaced great. You had to be great to be famous at one time. But now, there’s a lot of time spent being famous, mining Instagram, mining this, mining that. Not on the work.” He sighs. “That was dope, Jimmy,” says Snoop. Dre looks thoughtful.
Once I finished creating the music, I never listen to it again. Listening after it comes out is a form of masturbation
Will the record go back to their classic G-Funk sound that made them stars way back when? Snoop splutters. “Nu-uh!” He gestures to Dre. “This man don’t know nothing about going backwards. He probably ain’t never listened to The Chronic or Doggystyle 20 times.” So I’ve listened to Dre’s work more than he has? “F*** yeah!” says Snoop, his free hand slamming on the table.
“I don’t live with a rear view,” nods Dre quietly. “Once I finished creating the music, I never listen to it again. Me personally, listening to the music after it comes out, over and over again, is a form of masturbation. I just want to move forward.”
Is that why, I wonder, Dre declined to work with Prince and Michael Jackson, because it would have been too backwards-looking? “I’ll keep it a buck with you; it just all boils down to fear. It’s like, what am I going to do with these guys? What am I just going to pick Prince up, Michael Jackson gets in the passenger seat, and then we hang out at the restaurant?” He laughs incredulously.
And what about Drake v Kendrick? “Oh, Kendrick, 100 per cent, 1,000 per cent. That’s our family.” Snoop looks at me, faintly disgusted. I’ve been categorically warned not to ask about other big names in hip hop who have made the headlines lately.
Benny Hill, a perhaps unlikely hero for Dre and Snoop
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Fine, fine. What else will they be up to while they’re in London? “I like to ride bikes here,” says Snoop. Like a Boris bike? “Yeah, I put on my little shorts and my little helmet and ride through the city and nobody knows it’s me.” He lets out a giggle. “You know what was an attraction of mine, to London, as a kid? It was to meet Benny Hill, right? Because Benny Hill was a bad motherf***er in California. He was funny as f***, too! And we loved him. Like, I don’t even think y’all know how much he meant to the African-American community. He meant the f***ing world to us. The shit he was doing on TV, they would never do in America.”
Dre is murmuring in appreciation, tapping his glass. Why, I wonder, has there never been a Snoop and Dre remix of the Benny Hill theme? They laugh. “Oh, we done it many times,” says Snoop. “We took it further than Benny. Benny was playin’ with it, we put it in.”
“Benny was the tip,” says Dre. The ice tinkles in his glass. For a moment, they look like a pair of naughty school boys. It could be 30 years ago.
'Missionary' will not be a G-Funk album.
I want to hear them Benny Hill theme remixes they be doing for jokes...
Dod Dre says it will be out in Autumn… he thinks. 16 tracks long.
Damn hopefully 8)
stat quo told the story eminem wanted to do the hook on the single and stat was "no this is my song blablabla" and when he told the story he was like "who i thought i was to tell eminem what to do"
Snoop Dogg aims to inspire global audience at Paris Olympics as torch bearer before opening ceremony
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L.A. Gangsta rapper Snoop Dogg carries Olympic torch in Paris
PARIS (AP) — When Snoop Dogg agreed to become an Olympic torch bearer, the hip-hop star recalled an emotional, iconic moment watching Muhammad Ali light the cauldron at the 1996 Atlanta Games.
Now, Snoop Dogg hopes to recreate some of that magic for a global audience watching the Paris Olympics. He’ll be one of the final torch bearers of the Olympic flame ahead of the Games’ opening ceremony on Friday.
It’s an opportunity he never imagined.
“It was emotional for all of us to see the champ holding that torch and walking up there,” Snoop Dogg said Wednesday of the late Ali, who surprised the crowd when he lit the cauldron because he had Parkinson’s disease.
Snoop Dogg will carry the torch in the Parisian suburb of Saint-Denis, according to the town’s mayor, Mathieu Hanotin.
“This is my own version of it,” Snoop Dogg said. “I don’t want to get too emotional, but I know that this is special.”
Snoop Dogg said he’s thankful for being a representative from the U.S. and France’s support in him taking part. He spoke during a call with sportscaster Mike Tirico and Molly Solomon, executive producer and president of NBC Olympics
Paris Olympics off to rough start, with sabotaged trains and weather dampening mood before opening
“This says a lot about America as far as where we’re at in this world,” he said. “At the same time, it says a lot about France as far as connecting the dots and allowing me to do this. I look at this as a prestigious honor and something I truly respect. I would have never dreamed of nothing like this. I’m going to be on my best behavior. I’m going to be on my best athleticism. I’ll be able to breathe slow to walk fast and hold the torch with a smile on my face, because I realize how prestigious this event is.”
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Along with his torch-bearing duties, Snoop Dogg will serve as a prime-time NBC correspondent during the Games. He’ll be on the ground exploring the city’s landmarks and attending competitions and events.
The ultra-smooth entertainer already has had casual on-video interviews with a few Olympians about their sports, including women’s basketball player A’ja Wilson, gymnast Sunisa Lee, skateboarder Jagger Eaton and beach volleyball players Sara Hughes and Kelly Cheng. Last month, he met with track star Noah Lyles and participated in a 200-meter race — clocking in at 34.44 seconds — with NBC analyst Ato Boldon and former national champion Wallace Spearmon.
Snoop Dogg arrived in Paris about 10 days before the opening ceremony, meeting with athletes and their family members along with learning their back stories. He has gone to the practice facilities to visit various teams such as judo, weightlifting, 3x3 basketball and fencing.
“I’m going to show you why they made me the man to do it,” he said. “I’m going to put all of my resources and energy around it with peace, love and harmony. That’s what the Olympics is all about. I feel like that’s why they chose me. That’s what I represent.”
i can guess how missionary will sound like.
produced by ICU, lots of dem jointz vibe, no particular dre sound... but some stans will be like "oooh, its sonically great, i loved mix and mastering, i dont know why people dont like it, its a classic, bla bla" :D
Dod Dre says it will be out in Autumn… he thinks. 16 tracks long.Good news
Damn hopefully 8)
Naah. Stat said Eminem told him to do a hook he came up with and Stat replied that Eminem should do it himself.
https://www.xxlmag.com/stat-quo-aftermath-arguing-eminem/
i can guess how missionary will sound like.True
produced by ICU, lots of dem jointz vibe, no particular dre sound... but some stans will be like "oooh, its sonically great, i loved mix and mastering, i dont know why people dont like it, its a classic, bla bla" :D
https://music.apple.com/de/album/gin-juice-another-shot-from-dr-dre/1744971014?i=1744971015Nah beats are still dope, but nothing about them sounds like "only Dre can do it" to me. Dem Jointz can produce shit like that on his own (Guilty Conscience 2 is a proof of that).
https://music.apple.com/de/album/lucifer/1755022177?i=1755022492
No special sound? But still better beats than the shit there is today
Nah beats are still dope, but nothing about them sounds like "only Dre can do it" to me. Dem Jointz can produce shit like that on his own (Guilty Conscience 2 is a proof of that).
Look at his GTA Ep: Dre has production credit on every record on it, but all of those records sound like something a person whom he shared a credit with would do without his involvement. I mean, a Bink beat sounds like a Bink beat, Fallin up sounds like Dem Jointz, ETA sounds like J LBS and so on. He just elevates what's been done by the others and puts it on another level, but he has no special unique sound. Like 15 years ago you could tell the record was Dre's from listenning to the first 5 seconds.
https://music.apple.com/de/album/gin-juice-another-shot-from-dr-dre/1744971014?i=1744971015
https://music.apple.com/de/album/lucifer/1755022177?i=1755022492
No special sound? But still better beats than the shit there is today
To be fair, these 2 beats are sick, way better than the Compton sound, which is what I assume the worry is from
Compton is perfect for me.
RBX told me snoops going to be in Paris for next month or so. So no progress on missionary
In the last ten years, I can only think of ONE song off the top of my head that fits what I want Missionary to sound like, and that song is ETA off. The production has a great sample and isn’t just full of a bunch of sounds that don’t fit together like lots of recent Dre production.
Hopin for a lot more off those vibes PLUS a a few monster singles ala Still Dre. Anything less and it’s a disappointment
Nah beats are still dope, but nothing about them sounds like "only Dre can do it" to me. Dem Jointz can produce shit like that on his own (Guilty Conscience 2 is a proof of that).
Look at his GTA Ep: Dre has production credit on every record on it, but all of those records sound like something a person whom he shared a credit with would do without his involvement. I mean, a Bink beat sounds like a Bink beat, Fallin up sounds like Dem Jointz, ETA sounds like J LBS and so on. He just elevates what's been done by the others and puts it on another level, but he has no special unique sound. Like 15 years ago you could tell the record was Dre's from listenning to the first 5 seconds.
It's embarrassing how they treat the fans. No press release or anything. It's almost like they don't have any business sense at all are they just don't care. There's no way to justify this.
That’s great that you loved it! I did too, but we’ve both got to admit it lacks CLASSIC songs and that Dre’s rapping (aside from Talkin to My Diary and a few others) was just awkward
That’s great that you loved it! I did too, but we’ve both got to admit it lacks CLASSIC songs and that Dre’s rapping (aside from Talkin to My Diary and a few others) was just awkwardI definitely enjoy Compton but I agree that Dre's rapping in his older years sounds weird to me. His voice and flow sound so unnatural to me nowadays.
According to the volleyball commentator at the Olympics Snoop has more security with him than the dutch king and queen who also attented the same event.
I definitely enjoy Compton but I agree that Dre's rapping in his older years sounds weird to me. His voice and flow sound so unnatural to me nowadays.
Most vocals on his produced tracks now don't sound the same. Mostly sound like they are sitting on top of the music rather than within it. It's like he used to use vocals as an instrument but not anymore
Most vocals on his produced tracks now don't sound the same. Mostly sound like they are sitting on top of the music rather than within it. It's like he used to use vocals as an instrument but not anymore
Usually as men age, their voices get deeper. Dre's voice for some reason has become higher pitched, fast and a bit whiney. His slower deeper voice and way of rapping from his death row days are gone. And obviously it's an intentional shift for whatever reason. Some people say he's mimicking Kendrick, other's say he's developed a high-pitched voice from other things he is partaking in his personal life, whatever the reason, i'm not a big fan of it.
his voice hasn’t changed in his every day life lol …. it’s the way he’s rapping that changed. his writers and reference tracks are coming in with a different sound.. he’s no longer using DOC, J-Flexx, RBX etc… this past decade, he’s been using artists like Kendrick, King Mez, EZ Mill and rappers who use that nasally, less fluid flow. pretty easy to figure out.I definitely think the 2001 crew was SO much more talented than the Compton crew (Knoc, Hittman, Mel-Man etc. versus Dem Jointz, Justus, etc.).
his voice hasn’t changed in his every day life lol …. it’s the way he’s rapping that changed. his writers and reference tracks are coming in with a different sound.. he’s no longer using DOC, J-Flexx, RBX etc… this past decade, he’s been using artists like Kendrick, King Mez, EZ Mill and rappers who use that nasally, less fluid flow. pretty easy to figure out.His voice has also changed for the worse, don't fool yourself
His voice has also changed for the worse, don't fool yourself
Some of his current shit is written by a dude named Smitty, who wrote for him during his The Wash and Truth Hurts days, and you can hear how different he sounds now. Although he does sound better now than he did on Compton.
Any one else notice the mastering from The Contract EP and even in the “official” singles that he released after that the Vocals on Diamond Lane with Nipsey the vocals are way higher than the instrumental like for a “Dre beat” not to come through or his “mixing” to be that off is weird to me
And the horns on the song with Ross being there for one version but not on the other leaves the beat and track a bit dry on the official single versus the collected E.P … seems weird they did that not sure if it was purpose or just a coincidence…
Love the songs but just make it less replay value cuz the drums and bass line are behind loud vocals …
Any one else notice the mastering from The Contract EP and even in the “official” singles that he released after that the Vocals on Diamond Lane with Nipsey the vocals are way higher than the instrumental like for a “Dre beat” not to come through or his “mixing” to be that off is weird to me
And the horns on the song with Ross being there for one version but not on the other leaves the beat and track a bit dry on the official single versus the collected E.P … seems weird they did that not sure if it was purpose or just a coincidence…
Love the songs but just make it less replay value cuz the drums and bass line are behind loud vocals …
It was on purpose i think sice they are demos stolen in the game.
Snoop is having the best rollout right now
It was on purpose i think sice they are demos stolen in the game.A lot of people don't get that, good shit!
His voice has also changed for the worse, don't fool yourselfThe D.O.C. said Dre is writing a lot of his own shit these ays. Like the verse on Em's Music To Be Murdered By (Guns Blazin) I believe he pinned.
Some of his current shit is written by a dude named Smitty, who wrote for him during his The Wash and Truth Hurts days, and you can hear how different he sounds now. Although he does sound better now than he did on Compton.
One report claims gangster rapper Snoop Dogg is earning almost £400,000 per day, while Bild claims he could pocket up to £11.78million in total with bonuses
Dre voice has definitely changed for the worse.
It described Citrus as a “citrus-forward blend, balanced by rose and other soft botanicals”; Melon as a “smooth melon taste, with complexity evoked via crisp citrus and lush hibiscus”; Apricot as “mellow, elevated by a subtle honey finish and aromatic bergamot”; and Passionfruit as “tropical – heightened by bright, refreshing pineapple”.
Every Gin & Juice is naturally low in sugar and calories, with only 2 grams of sugar and 95kcal per 250ml can. It is made with real fruit juice and is 5.9% ABV, using no artificial colours or flavours. In addition, it is “subtly carbonated”.
Ini Archibong designs packaging for Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre's Gin & Juice
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A hand-drawn lowrider features on the packaging of Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre's premixed drinks brand, envisioned by designer Ini Archibong to "encapsulate the spirit" of 1990s West Coast hip hop.
The recently launched drink is named Gin & Juice after the Grammy-nominated, Dr Dre-produced song from Snoop Dog's 1993 debut album Doggystyle – a poster child of the G-funk genre popularised by the two artists.
Nigerian-American designer Ini Archibong, who also hails from Los Angeles, developed the graphic design for the drink to reflect the cultural influence of their music.
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ni Archibong has designed the packaging for Gin & Juice
"The goal with the design was to encapsulate the spirit and era of the West Coast when the original Gin and Juice track was released," Archibong told Dezeen. "I wanted to transmit the reverence and unique culture of the era that has now become known worldwide."
Central to this is the parental advisory logo, smack dab in the middle of the can, which according to Archibong is "emblematic" of the time.
"Bringing in the symbol of parental advisory is to remind people how intrusive, new, fresh and frightening this art form was at the time," he said.
Wrapped around the bottom of the can is a lowrider, hand-drawn by Los Angeles illustrator Wayne Johnson and rendered in four different colours to correspond to the different Gin & Juice flavours – green for citrus, red for melon, purple for passionfruit and orange for apricot.
The low-slung car nods to the West Coast cruising culture described in Snoop Dogg's song, where he describes "rolling down the street, smoking indo, sipping on gin and juice".
In contrast with the vibrantly coloured lowrider, the drink can itself is rendered in plain white to present the car as if it were being immortalised in a museum.
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Archibong wanted the can to be "minimal perfection"
"There's a feeling of minimal perfection that I wanted to instil into the product," Archibong said. "Dre inspired the minimal aesthetic, with his approach and album art, alongside the sonic quality of his music."
Gin & Juice is the first release from Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre's drinks company, with more set to follow.
"Together, we always try to create magic," Dr Dre said. "We're having fun, being creative. And everything about this product is really us. There's passion behind it and friendship and love and a culture."
The two artists have also separately launched a number of other business ventures including an edible marijuana range and popular headphone company Beats by Dre.
Anyone try out the 'Gin n Juice' range out yet?
Might get some to session with on 1st play of 'Missionary' when it drops, will try not to drunkenly crush the cans (they will look nice on a shelf)
Watching the breakdancing now at the Olympics. Snoop opened it. They had the Pump Pump instrumental for one battle this afternoon. The best one was when they played Eric B and Rakim Don’t Sweat The Technique.
It's likely that Madden track is for Missionary?
When will the soundtrack be released?
Watching the breakdancing now at the Olympics. Snoop opened it. They had the Pump Pump instrumental for one battle this afternoon. The best one was when they played Eric B and Rakim Don’t Sweat The Technique.
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:o
Need to see that.
i recognized Redman x Busta's song "Da Goodness" ; i was hyped 8)
Notice it's 'Snoop ft Dr Dre', not 'Dr Dre and Snoop'.
Isn’t it just a banch of songs already released?
"Alus" seems to be a female singer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alus_(singer) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alus_(singer)). Dre apparently met her in March:
https://x.com/tnaved/status/1778034042866213096
I think there is a chance that the song is from the Missionary sessions. Maybe a leftover or they will put it on Missionary too.
Today Olympia 24 graduation ceremony, appearance by Snoop Dogg & Dr.DreNot Dre. Only Snoop
Not Dre. Only Snoop
Damn she is hot
Not Dre. Only Snoop
Nah he was right. It was snoop and dreYeah
new joint is like an uptempo respin of this trackHow do you know? Is there a snippet out?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewRjZoRtu0Y
deffo sounds like a Dem Jointz production...
https://krakenfiles.com/view/2I1MKOmAji/file.html
Leak version
The official version drops friday or might appear on youtube soon, if someone rips it from the Madden Game.
Kinda disappointing, track is too chaotic for my taste, hope it's just for the soundtrack
Sound like their attempt at making Swizz Beatz beat lol
Not bad but different, that's why snoop said the new tracks are internationally not a pure westcoast, club style
Kinda disappointing, track is too chaotic for my taste, hope it's just for the soundtrack
If you think about it Doggystyle was not a west coast album minus a few funk joints, it had that universal appeal to it
Dre says hes rapping on one song
its the best music he's ever done.
The track is made for Madden 25 Soundtrack, that's a Dem Jointz or The ICU production.Lol
Missionary will be entire produced by Dre. So it doesn't make sense to say that the song could be on the album.
In fact it should have been posted in another thread, not in this one about the album.
Lol
Honestly, not sure if the explanation is needed here but produced by Dre means produced by The ICU.
My eggs for you. The ICU is Fredwreck, Dem Jointz, Blu2th and Trevor Lawrence Jr.And Focus...
It doesn't means Dre is involved. And the explanation wasn't even for you, so it leaks.
Brand new interview with Dr. Dre just posted on Entertainment Tonight. Here are the highlights:
- Dr. Dre confirms Missionary is due November
- He is in the end stages of mixing and is currently on song number 11
- The album must be done and submitted by Sept. 1st for a Nov. release
- Snoop wants 16 songs and Dre wants 14. Final album length remains undecided
- Dre has vocals on 3-4 songs but only one will be on the album
- Sting is featured on the album
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkKFQU2kySA
My eggs for you. The ICU is Fredwreck, Dem Jointz, Blu2th and Trevor Lawrence Jr.Being produced by The ICU doesn't mean Dre is involved, but being produced by Dre means the ICU is involved, it's not like he's gonna produce Missionary on his own. I hope you're right and this song is strictly for the soundtrack and won't end up being on the album too, but Dre not being the only producer on it is far from the confirmation.
It doesn't means Dre is involved. And the explanation wasn't even for you, so it leaks.
Being produced by The ICU doesn't mean Dre is involved, but being produced by Dre means the ICU is involved, it's not like he's gonna produce Missionary on his own. I hope you're right and this song is strictly for the soundtrack and won't end up being on the album too, but Dre not being the only producer on it is far from the confirmation.
Most of ICU's beats are pretty complex and musically advanced but they aren't catchy at all. Hoping for a more simpel style with less beat changes, so more Fredwreck and Focus and less Dem Jointz.. But cool it's really coming out nevertheless.
I hope it’s Sting the wrestler
Dre did a few songs for the album, but is expecting only 1 to make it.
Dre wants 14, Snoop wants 16. I wonder if the 2 extra tracks that Snoop wants are songs that feature Dre.
Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg’s “Missionary” Album Expected to Drop This November: A New Chapter in Hip-Hop
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Dr. Dre Teases High-Quality Production and Mature Lyrics in Upcoming Collaboration with Snoop Dogg, "Missionary"
The hip-hop world is buzzing with anticipation as Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg prepare to release their long-awaited collaborative album, Missionary. Originally teased as a follow-up to their iconic 1993 release Doggystyle, the new album has fans eager to see how these West Coast legends will build on their legacy. According to Dr. Dre, the album is set to drop in November, coinciding with the 31st anniversary of Doggystyle.
In a recent interview with Entertainment Tonight, Dr. Dre offered an exciting update on the project, revealing that he is currently mixing the album’s final tracks. “I wanted 14 songs, Snoop wants 16,” Dre shared, indicating that they’re close to completing the project. “I’m on song number 11 as far as the mixes go. I have to be done and delivered by September 1st to have a November release.”
The album, which Dre confidently describes as “some of the best music I’ve done in my career,” promises to showcase a new level of maturity in both his production and Snoop’s lyrics. Dre hinted at a more evolved sound that reflects their growth as artists over the past three decades. “This one’s gonna show a different level of maturity with his lyrics and with my music,” he explained, adding that the collaboration process has been more enjoyable than ever.
Adding to the excitement, Dre revealed that the album features a roster of impressive guest artists, including a surprising collaboration with Sting. “There’s a song, we have Sting on the song. Man, it’s an amazing roster of artists that’s on this album,” Dre teased, though he quickly acknowledged that he might have revealed too much.
While Missionary was initially rumored to be released earlier this year, with Snoop Dogg and Tha Dogg Pound hinting at a July drop, it seems the album’s release was pushed back to ensure it meets the high standards Dre and Snoop have set for themselves. The delay only heightens the anticipation, as fans speculate whether Missionary could rival or even surpass the impact of Doggystyle.
With Dr. Dre’s promise of top-tier production and Snoop Dogg’s evolved lyrical content, Missionary is shaping up to be one of the most significant hip-hop releases of the year. As we await the official release date, the buzz surrounding the album continues to grow, and fans are left wondering if this collaboration could become another timeless classic in the genre.
Stay tuned for more updates as we approach the November release, and prepare for what could be the next chapter in the storied careers of Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg.
Yew, Dre must feel the album is tight at 14 songs, but this is Snoop's chance to rap over and release as many valuable Dre produced beats as he can.
Plus i doubt Dre will be doing any remixes, so for us the more songs we get on 'Missionary' the merrier.
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Brand new interview with Dr. Dre just posted on Entertainment Tonight. Here are the highlights:
- Dr. Dre confirms Missionary is due November
- He is in the end stages of mixing and is currently on song number 11
- The album must be done and submitted by Sept. 1st for a Nov. release
- Snoop wants 16 songs and Dre wants 14. Final album length remains undecided
- Dre has vocals on 3-4 songs but only one will be on the album
- Sting is featured on the album
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkKFQU2kySA
3 - and finally how motivated and ambitious are they really? Dre producing a whole snoop album even now it priceless let’s be honest - something to keep forever for us fans of both. But these niggas when they were young and hungry made all time records. Next episode and still Dre gonna be played 15 years from now just like it is today. Imagine they got one more banger in the locker - but do they?
In all honesty 15 years down the line nobody would really be playing Snoop Dogg apart from a few pockets across mid to Eastern Europe
if don’t think cats guna be playin next episode in 25 years than u must not understand that classix are forever
Sure thing, lol. Certain artists gain new audiences as years pass because younger generations can also relate to their music, thus retaining a following for much longer than the duration of their career
Oldheads still clinging on trying to relive 1993 again are not new audiences, once they start going senile and/or dying out, it's a wrap.
People enjoying Snoop Dogg's antics at the Olympics and everywhere else he keeps cropping up are the same people who can't name 5 album tracks of his
bro wtf u yappin about
cats still playin nuthin but a g than and gin n juice 30+ years later as much as when it first came out
u think in 15 years an iconic song like next episode will die out?
:dead:
This guy must not go out much lol. You go to dinner dodger stadium and the DJ is playing nothing but a g thang still Dre ruff ryders anthem and classics from all decades. You go to nightclubs they will still play lil Jon get low. Some songs never die
Way for you and Sccit to miss the point completelywhat’s the point homie
:mjlol:
It doesn't concern me whether other posters agree, time will tell
:macdre:
what’s the point homie
u said no one will be playin snoop in 15 years lol
you’re simply wrong on that .. not sure what else u think we missin??
Eh, maybe 15 years is a bit of a stretch and 25 years is the more probable timeframe, but my point was that Snoop is not the type of artist to gain brand new audiences through his craft as time passes. Same people who blast Snoop now are the ones who did so 30 years ago and subsequently the 10 or however many years they've still got left in them down the line.
That's not being timeless, that's just your original fans still playing your music (for various reasons) as time passes.
Being timeless is when people born in 2010, 2020, 2050, 2100, 2500 still fuck with your art.
This won't be the case for Snoop
nonsense.. there’s a young generation of heads who are just now learning about doggystyle and the chronic and 2001
you think led zeppelin isnt gaining any new fans nowadays? stairway to heaven gettin play 50+ years after it came out
LOL what kind of embarrassing is this
https://x.com/RapCaviar/status/1675912527354507274 (https://x.com/RapCaviar/status/1675912527354507274)
50 most streamed hip-hop albums on Spotify as of 2023....Dre is there, Pac is there.....notice who isn't?
Spotify is just one measurable parameter out of many. You can delude yourself all you want, it doesn't concern me whether your opinion aligns with what I've stated.
No point getting geographical with me, with nearly 6k posts you basically live on this forum, what do you know about what's happening around the world
:mjlol:
u said next episode wont be played in 15 years…
:snoop:
Go ahead and point out the specific post where I've said those exact words, I'm done discussing this topic until then.
You and the other guy are actively competing "debunking" statements which do not exist with me somehow taking aim at LZ and Eminem as well, without even having mentioned them. Grasping at straws inventing non-existent statements
Lyrical also seems to struggle with the following concepts
1. classic music ≠ timeless music and these are not interchangeable terms
2. You can't simply extrapolate from your limited personal lived experience when discussing the big picture
"B-b-b-but everywhere I go to in LA all my life round the same parts in the same venues with the same audience for the same reasons plays Snoop. That means it's a universal fact and will be frue forever!"
Get a grip, Lyrical :fisherlol:
Leave this guy alone, if he thinks Gin & Juice, Drop it like it’s hot, Nuttin but a G thang, ain’t no fun won’t be played in 15 years.
Songs that have made 2 to 3 decades already and still being bumped.
Let him hold his opinion and not clog up this thread .
LOL I’ve been on this forum for years - I joined in 2001😂😂 with a huge time off in between - oh and actually have seen a lot of the world too ;)- whilst I was making money and growing up and trying to get successful sounds like you been living in a pothole looking at your posts
Spotify 😂😂 nigga go out and touch some grass - delude myself? About what? Were talking about classic music, not albums LOL
Just because so many of Eminems latest albums are trash(not his latest) you think people won’t be playing lose yourself in 15 years time? If you’re trying to make a point, the only one you’re making is you’re clueless.
Make a fuckin thread bout your discussion "Will we listen to Snoop in 30 years?"
we don't care in here, whether we will listen to Snoop or not in 30 years. this thread is about Missionary. stop debating here if it's not about Missionary.
So if the album is coming out in November, when can we expect the first single/video?Late September - early October
You’re right let’s discuss Arsenal instead. Decent game today, 60 million down the drain Kai Havertz scores again! Saka assist + goal. Off to a good start. They played Kendrick’s Not Like Us at half time but I think it was only the instrumental.
Hahahahaha…..you want them to kick us off this thread.
Waka waka eh eh!
Hopefully it’s this season!
I’m going to the Brighton game at the end of the month.
On Missionary, I’m patiently waiting for November release now, only 3 months to go (Don’t let me down again Dre by moving it 😀)
So if the album is coming out in November, when can we expect the first single/video?
Missionary single, its coming baby. ;D
New Complex interview
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/W3PS0xTI
Hahahahaha…..you want them to kick us off this thread.
Waka waka eh eh!
Hopefully it’s this season!
I’m going to the Brighton game at the end of the month.
On Missionary, I’m patiently waiting for November release now, only 3 months to go (Don’t let me down again Dre by moving it 😀)
In this current era of music, I doubt there will be a first official single, a surprise release is more likely. Or the follow up to the Gin & Juice mini-film.It was 3 singles prior to the Casablanco release so I'm sure Snoop will at least have a lead single.
It was 3 singles prior to the Casablanco release so I'm sure Snoop will at least have a lead single.
I hope. Arsenal need to win every game to challenge for the title the way it is now with Man City. After the last 2 seasons I hope Man City will drop more points this time, maybe Haaland will have a dry spell who knows.
I think streaming and modern technology has destroyed the old model of releasing albums imo.
I'm not sure the old strategy of releasing singles, lots of promotion then dropping the album quite works in this day & age.
I just don't think there is much money in making music for the labels when it comes to albums when people can download it for free, so they don't spend as much money on marketing etc.
The money needed to break even on a project must be quite high
I don't work in the industry, so I could be wrong....
Yeah if Jimmy is on board that much this time, he doesn’t like to do shit half ways I can expect bigger things and roll out
Jimmy got the Power and Bread and Intelligence to go after the right markets and media that Snoop can easily get in along with Dre
Only question is the only thing that will make this promo and album get more and actually quite more or different attention is Dre
Will Dre get out there with snoop and promote ?
That will show this there project and he is outside for it to be successful
He didn’t promote Compton. No videos or promo …he didn’t even really promote with exception of his Beats1 radio show it was coming out and then nothing
snoop is a big enough star to do jay-z level numbers with the proper production and the right rollout..I'm sorry but that's a bit delusional. Snoop is not on Jay's level, the world stopped caring about Snoop's music a loooong time ago, even when he tried to do an album with high profile production and features he only did like 30k first week, and it was 10 years ago. He'd be lucky to have these numbers now. Hov's 200-300k are totally unrealistic for him. On a bright side though, I don't think Snoop and Dre care.
I'm sorry but that's a bit delusional. Snoop is not on Jay's level, the world stopped caring about Snoop's music a loooong time ago, even when he tried to do an album with high profile production and features he only did like 30k first week, and it was 10 years ago. He'd be lucky to have these numbers now. Hov's 200-300k are totally unrealistic for him. On a bright side though, I don't think Snoop and Dre care.
I'm sorry but that's a bit delusional. Snoop is not on Jay's level, the world stopped caring about Snoop's music a loooong time ago, even when he tried to do an album with high profile production and features he only did like 30k first week, and it was 10 years ago. He'd be lucky to have these numbers now. Hov's 200-300k are totally unrealistic for him. On a bright side though, I don't think Snoop and Dre care.
https://x.com/fredwreck/status/1826845552711270660?s=46&t=iZGSzmEx9o0oPCgYcAcNbg
Fredwreck: Fire in the Hole !
Look at the Storyboard
What happened to his account?
why do u think that is?
snoop is actually more famous than jay
but for some reason, jay still has the ears of hip-hop consumers
do you know why?
I don’t think Snoop pushed his music like he used to and he needs to learn to listen what is going on out there as far as depth and how to offset and compliment the sound to break through that …
I truly felt Def Jam and Jay-Z bought the number 1 albums so he can place high but for 4:44 to get #1 I’m sure it was the same there were major rumors that labels bought their billboard sports especially def jam
On the other hand Watch the Throne sold like 4x Platinum
For Snoop to truly get a hit these days I think it’s possible he usually gets on a huge remix is part of a bit damn near year every year for a long ass time even in Spanish/Banda sound he got like 2 hits with Banda MS
But he isn’t selling much not even Eminem is on Billboard top 10 right now no hip hop album is currently… which is wild cuz no one has sold more than Em…. No one
I'm interested to hear your answer. Imo, there are a number of factors.
1. Jay is from NYC, so he has a built-in advantage, since NYC hip hop has always been given more respect than other regions. Hence, Jay is considered more "real hip hop" than Snoop. Also, NYC is the biggest market in the U.S. L.A. is the second biggest market, so Snoop caters to #2 whereas Jay caters to #1.
2. Snoop ventured away from hip hop. He's more of a celebrity now than a rapper. He sells drinks and does shows with Martha Stewart and appears at the Olympics, etc. As a result, I wouldn't be surprised if teenagers nowadays don't really think of Snoop as a rapper, just as when I was a teenager, I thought of Will Smith as an actor first and foremost, not a rapper. Same with Mark Wahlberg and to an extent even LL Cool J (during his Deep Blue Sea and Halloween H20 days). I learned about these guys first as actors and THEN learned that they used to be rappers. Jay hasn't watered down his image, instead preferring to remain known as a rapper. Imo, this is because Jay doesn't have the potential to reinvent himself the way that Snoop has because Jay doesn't have the necessary charisma, but I digress...
3. Snoop doesn't try to sell himself with the image of being a really respectable rapper these days. Jay and his fans will always try to maintain the perception that Jay is "lyrical," whereas Snoop has never tried to be lyrical, which hurts his credibility among the hip hop intelligentsia and baccpaccer crowds. Snoop just doesn't spend marketing dollars on reaching those groups. As a result, they view him as a clown who wears goofy oversized Bootsy Collins glasses who makes bad albums with no substance/lyricism.
I could probably come up with some other reasons as well if I give it more thought.
the reason snoop doesn’t sell much all goes back to what dre said…
snoop simply does way too much … he releases shit regularly and puts out unconcentrated efforts year round … he oversaturates his image with watered down output .. unlike jay, who will put out 1 concentrated effort and then fall out of the public eye until he resurfaces… so it makes every appearance an event that becomes highly anticipated… where as snoop is constantly in the public eye putting out anything and everything .. so when he releases an album it’s uneventful ……..
then to make matters worse, snoop doesn’t have the marketing etiquette and promotional machine behind him … so jay-z has def jam to really push his albums properly, with concentrated singles, commercials, radio play, etc….while snoop has been releasing his albums independently and through small labels like empire etc…. which doesn’t have the same resources to give an album that def jam notoriety in terms of marketing
eminem is cut from the jay-z cloth, which is why his releases are events
and that’s why having this released on Interscope with Dre and Iovine in control creatively makes this potentially snoops biggest album in over 20 years
should be interesting to see how this unfolds
Oh, you're answering a different question than I thought was being asked. Sorry. I thought we were addressing why Snoop doesn't have the respect of the hip hop community the same way Jay does, and I still think that's because Snoop isn't "lyrical", makes a lot of goofy decisions that gives him mainstream appeal but dilutes his hip hop credentials, etc. I feel you when you say Snoop spreads himself too thin, so his music comes and goes and nobody notices. But that's because Snoop himself doesn't take it so seriously. I honestly think he believes in throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, whereas Jay and Em believe in finely crafting their output and putting all their eggs in one basket. These are two different approaches to handling one's career.
I do get what you're saying, though.
the reason snoop doesn’t sell much all goes back to what dre said…
snoop simply does way too much … he releases shit regularly and puts out unconcentrated efforts year round … he oversaturates his image with watered down output .. unlike jay, who will put out 1 concentrated effort and then fall out of the public eye until he resurfaces… so it makes every appearance an event that becomes highly anticipated… where as snoop is constantly in the public eye putting out anything and everything .. so when he releases an album it’s uneventful ……..
then to make matters worse, snoop doesn’t have the marketing etiquette and promotional machine behind him … so jay-z has def jam to really push his albums properly, with concentrated singles, commercials, radio play, etc….while snoop has been releasing his albums independently and through small labels like empire etc…. which doesn’t have the same resources to give an album that def jam notoriety in terms of marketing
eminem is cut from the jay-z cloth, which is why his releases are events
and that’s why having this released on Interscope with Dre and Iovine in control creatively makes this potentially snoops biggest album in over 20 years
should be interesting to see how this unfolds
https://x.com/fredwreck/status/1826845552711270660?s=46&t=iZGSzmEx9o0oPCgYcAcNbg
Fredwreck: Fire in the Hole !
Look at the Storyboard
The post is gone. Any chance you saved the photo or took a screenshot? Would love to see it.
The best way to describe Snoop would be, Ghetto Fabulous. He could have been way bigger than Jay-Z but he lost his credibility in 1996 when he dropped his sophomore album. Outside of the fanbase and the west coast territory, Snoop Dogg only has one album with no skips and that's Doggystyle, they others are solid efforts and regional classics. Jay Z on the other hand, has multiple classic albums. And Snoop Dogg socks at picking the right single to push his albums.
Jay-Z doesn't even have a classic song.
It's a phenomenon called Group-Think. People just like him because of the Emperor Has No Clothes Phenomenon—where idiots with no taste in music, who wanna be down with hip-hop ask, "oh hey who are the best rappers" and they hear the name Jay-Z and so they just follow along and parrot the name like sheep
Are you serious?
Can't knock the hustle
MONEY AINT A THANG
N**** In Paris
Empire State of Mind
Feeling It
Big Pimpin
Hard Knock Life
The only album I can listen to is Reasonable Doubt.
Just to name a few...
Yeah, that's pretty much all of this.
the reason snoop doesn’t sell much all goes back to what dre said…
snoop simply does way too much … he releases shit regularly and puts out unconcentrated efforts year round … he oversaturates his image with watered down output .. unlike jay, who will put out 1 concentrated effort and then fall out of the public eye until he resurfaces… so it makes every appearance an event that becomes highly anticipated… where as snoop is constantly in the public eye putting out anything and everything .. so when he releases an album it’s uneventful ……..
then to make matters worse, snoop doesn’t have the marketing etiquette and promotional machine behind him … so jay-z has def jam to really push his albums properly, with concentrated singles, commercials, radio play, etc….while snoop has been releasing his albums independently and through small labels like empire etc…. which doesn’t have the same resources to give an album that def jam notoriety in terms of marketing
eminem is cut from the jay-z cloth, which is why his releases are events
and that’s why having this released on Interscope with Dre and Iovine in control creatively makes this potentially snoops biggest album in over 20 years
should be interesting to see how this unfolds
ENCORE
DOA (death Of autotune)
Dirt Off Your Shoulder
Change Clothes
Izzo
Girls Girls Girls
Heart Of The City
Song Cry
03 Bonnie & Clyde
The Watcher 2
Show Me What You Got
I just wanna love you
Roc Boys
I know
Hey Papi
Run This Town
No church in the wild
Otis
Holy Grail
Tom Ford
On The Run
30 something
Lost one
Public Service Announcement
All internationally known hits from all of his albums.
What can Snoop Do?
Snoops Upside Ya Head
Still a G Thang
Bitch Please
Laylow
Beautiful
Drop it like it's hot
Let's Get Blown
SIGNS
Wrong Idea
Sexual Seduction
I wanna rock
Wet
That's That Shit
I wanna Fuck You
Gangsta Luv
ENCORE
DOA (death Of autotune)
Dirt Off Your Shoulder
Change Clothes
Izzo
Girls Girls Girls
Heart Of The City
Song Cry
03 Bonnie & Clyde
The Watcher 2
Show Me What You Got
I just wanna love you
Roc Boys
I know
Hey Papi
Run This Town
No church in the wild
Otis
Holy Grail
Tom Ford
On The Run
30 something
Lost one
Public Service Announcement
All internationally known hits from all of his albums.
What can Snoop Do?
Snoops Upside Ya Head
Still a G Thang
Bitch Please
Laylow
Beautiful
Drop it like it's hot
Let's Get Blown
SIGNS
Wrong Idea
Sexual Seduction
I wanna rock
Wet
That's That Shit
I wanna Fuck You
Gangsta Luv
Convenient left out a lot of Snoop bangers:
Gin & Juice
Hennessy & Budda
Just Dippin’
Ups & Downs
Who am I
Ain’t no fun
Down 4 my No
Just to name a few!
I didn’t want to get involved in this debate because at the end of the day, we like what we like.
I listen to Jay a lot and I can’t remember half of the track listed and I am (International).
Music is about what appeal to you and what you enjoy, to say Snoop to have bangers is just wrong.
fucc outta here... What track does Jay-Z have the level of "Gin and Juice"?
...Hell, just compare Jay-Z first single with Snoop's first single. Jay bit Dru Down and had to rely on Foxy Brown to turn out "Ain't No Nicca". Snoop came out with "Who Am I" ("What's My Name") he carried that whole mutherfuckin track
When Jay-Z does a joint like "Murder Was The Case" then we will talk until then shut the fucc up this the dubC forum HOMIE!!!!!!!
Remove Doggystyle out of the equation, what does he have to compete with Jay Z? Let's be real.
ENCORE
DOA (death Of autotune)
Dirt Off Your Shoulder
Change Clothes
Izzo
Girls Girls Girls
Heart Of The City
Song Cry
03 Bonnie & Clyde
The Watcher 2
Show Me What You Got
I just wanna love you
Roc Boys
I know
Hey Papi
Run This Town
No church in the wild
Otis
Holy Grail
Tom Ford
On The Run
30 something
Lost one
Public Service Announcement
All internationally known hits from all of his albums.
What can Snoop Do?
Snoops Upside Ya Head
Still a G Thang
Bitch Please
Laylow
Beautiful
Drop it like it's hot
Let's Get Blown
SIGNS
Wrong Idea
Sexual Seduction
I wanna rock
Wet
That's That Shit
I wanna Fuck You
Gangsta Luv
Remove Doggystyle out of the equation, what does he have to compete with Jay Z? Let's be real.
Drop It Like It's Hot and Beautiful get love here on the eastcoast, but not much else from Snoop's independent albums.
Remove Doggystyle out of the equation, what does he have to compete with Jay Z? Let's be real.
Jay-Z doesn’t have any tracks that can fucc with—
“21 Jumpstreet”
“Who got some gangsta shit”
“2 of Americas Most Wanted”
“Never leave me Alone”
“Hooked”
“Bitch Please”
“Buck Um”
“Heat Goes Boom”
“Just Dippin”
“Now We Lay Um Down”
“Next Episode”
“Lay Low”
“Go Away”
“P.I.M.P. Remix”
“Caught Up”
“Smooth”
Any one of them songs destroys Jay-Z’s whole career
I have never heard "Loosen Control" on the radio or at a party and it was a single.
My point was based on The solo albums from these two.
Jay-Z doesn’t have any tracks that can fucc with—
“21 Jumpstreet”
“Who got some gangsta shit”
“2 of Americas Most Wanted”
“Never leave me Alone”
“Hooked”
“Bitch Please”
“Buck Um”
“Heat Goes Boom”
“Just Dippin”
“Now We Lay Um Down”
“Next Episode”
“Lay Low”
“Go Away”
“P.I.M.P. Remix”
“Caught Up”
“Smooth”
Any one of them songs destroys Jay-Z’s whole career
Only Hov’s album I can listen is The Dinasty and some songs in the 4:44 album, the rest is mehhhh.
Some of his singles are bangers like OPEN LETTER, Where I’m From & Know Bout Me (feat. Drake& James Fountleroy). The last one is a Timbaland single, but it’s a banger in my opinion.
These are preferences. Not Mainstream hits. And keep in mind that I am a Snoop fan.
"HOOKED"????? That is a great song but this is not a known song outside of here or L.A
"P.I.M.P Remix" was huge. Song and video. And Snoop was on a couple different versions of the track that made rounds on radio and video. He took a cut that was just like a lesser album joint and made it an international sensation. "Next Episode" was a massive his still to this day.This, and B Please and 2 of Americaz were also huge hits and still are internationally known. Lay Low as well to a lesser extent.
How are these not mainstream hits.
This thread is a joke lol over 60 pages of BS and nonsens
This thread is a joke lol over 60 pages of BS and nonsens
These are preferences. Not Mainstream hits. And keep in mind that I am a Snoop fan.
"HOOKED"????? That is a great song but this is not a known song outside of here or L.A
I'm probably in the minority, but I enjoyed the album that Dre mixed and produced 4 tracks ' Kingdom Come'.
I forgot about it. "Kingdom Come" was some bangers on it too. But fuck Hov! Snoop does it better, no doubt.
Talk over, now let's go back to talking only about the album, if it doesn't lose the meaning of the thread.
kingdom come is lowkey one of my favorite jay-z albums and by far the most underrated
dre did his thang on there
kingdom come is lowkey one of my favorite jay-z albums and by far the most underrated
dre did his thang on there
Not only Dre, but all the the others producers made the album a real banger. Just Blaze, Kanye West, DJ Khalil.
The album titled track is bananas. Just Blaze kills the beat. 8)
Best tracks: Lost One, Kingdom Come, 30 Something, Trouble, Dig a Hole & Minority Report IMO.
yea.. lots of great producers on there.. but dre mixed the entire album and it sounds excellent sonically
not sure why it gets so much hate
kingdom come is lowkey one of my favorite jay-z albums and by far the most underratedDre crushed it on Kingdom Come!
dre did his thang on there
Probably the replay value. If I recall this was his comeback album after his brief retirement. It was a let down compared to the Black Album.
black album is overrated
kingdom come is lowkey one of my favorite jay-z albums and by far the most underratedTrue, Hov is tripping when he calls it his worst. It's not only that he has way worse albums than Kingdom Come, but also the album is pretty good itself. Dre's and Just Blaze contributions were insane.
dre did his thang on there
kingdom come is lowkey one of my favorite jay-z albums and by far the most underrated
dre did his thang on there
You listen to Jay-Z ??
…funny, and all these years I actually thought you had good taste in music
And somebody on here made the point about revisionist history and Jay-Z. Like it’s often said that Jay’s first album was his best. People that were big into hiphop in 96’ and remember what it was like will know that that album was nothing more than just another album on the shelf in those days. Nobody was saying Jay was great or that the album was classic back then.
It’s all great marketing, revisionist history, and sheeple followers propelling Jay
I guess this ain't a Missionary thread anymore..y'all mess up everything 🤦
I guess this ain't a Missionary thread anymore..y'all mess up everything 🤦
So who you guys think will feature on the album?
I read on twitter that besides 50 Cent and Sting also Erick Sermon is confirmed?
What about the Dogg Pound and the other inmates? Does Dre still have problems with Daz?
So who you guys think will feature on the album?
I read on twitter that besides 50 Cent and Sting also Erick Sermon is confirmed?
What about the Dogg Pound and the other inmates? Does Dre still have problems with Daz?
this is one of the billion(!) times when Infinite proove that he aint know shit bout hiphop/rap.
whats the news?!
kingdom come is lowkey one of my favorite jay-z albums and by far the most underrated
dre did his thang on there
also worst jay z album in his discography.
except of miniority report, other dr. dre productions made me feel ashamed as a dr. dre fan. those tracks must be the worst dre productions ever. also worst jay z album in his discography.Not when Oxnard beats exist
You're just butthurt cause I don't chase around the new albums that come out like as if this is still the 90's and rappers are advancing the graft and everyone is hungry for that new sound, the next big thing in rap. Like when Rakim first came out it was like the buzz on the street, because he advanced the craft and was doing something with it that hadn't been done. So everyone was like hungry for that new shit.
Then of course like G Funk came out and that was the new buzz on the streetz and everyone wanted to take their hit.
And then Outkast, or Bone would come around with a new sound and revolutionize the game yet again. Even No Limit, though they were like the McDonals of rap, they did have like a signature sound that was the new buzz when it first hit with that "UUUUUHHHH" catchphrase when P broke thru on the Rhyme and Reason soundtrack.
If you still wanna act like you are hungry for that new shit go right on ahead, but the game done changed. I'm diggin for old classics pre-MP3 when it was hard to get your hands on everything. There's a treasure there to uncover.
Don't be butthurt just cause I ain't waiting for new shit. And to not be "off-topic" let me just say Dre started throwing up Devil Horns in 2020 and now I see it in pic after pic and images, so since selling his soul to the devil he's lost his midas touch and that Marsha Ambroious shit was YAAAAWWWWN - what are ya'll black women or something how yhou listening to that shit
Missionary won't drop or will be wack
This fiasco is a mess. You have people that are stuck in nostalgia and stopped listening to rap since a certain time, therefore they are not aware of HipHop's evolution and the business aspect of it. They are stuck in 2001.
So whatever that came after that, they don't understand it so they will criticize and get defensive.
Then you have the West Coast bias, which is understandable, this is a west coast forum, so their point of view will be a reflection of that.
What I find interesting is that most of us have been here since the beginning, 2001-2003; and some of us didn't grow musically. There is soo much music out there but some expects Missionary to have the old Death Row roster or a G-Funk sound, to which Dr.Dre himself said that it won't be
And yes, Dr.Dre did amazing on Kingdom Come
why would i be butthurt over what u decide to listen to?
do you even think about what u say or do u just say whatever first pops up in your mind?
and jay-z kingdom come is not even new … the album is from 2006 and entirely produced/mixed by dre
just because you’re not a true dr dre head and overlooked an album he did in the 2000s doesn’t mean u gota hurl insults outa defensiveness homie
your schtick is see through
and yet you have people saying kingdom come is dre’s worst album LOL
but then again cey cey is known to have an anti-dre bias for one reason or another
kingdom come is far and away jay’s best album sonically .. and i’m not a big jay fan, but to say it’s his worst album in a discography that contains blueprint 2, blueprint 3, and magna carta is kinda nuts
and yet you have people saying kingdom come is dre’s worst album LOL
but then again cey cey is known to have an anti-dre bias for one reason or another
kingdom come is far and away jay’s best album sonically .. and i’m not a big jay fan, but to say it’s his worst album in a discography that contains blueprint 2, blueprint 3, and magna carta is kinda nuts
bro.. where are you posting from? This is the second time you've done this. I wasn't even talking to you. My whole post was to DoggfatherI noticed that. He just exposed himself. Now, let's see him wiggle his way out of this one.
bro.. where are you posting from? This is the second time you've done this. I wasn't even talking to you. My whole post was to Doggfather
You listen to Jay-Z ??
…funny, and all these years I actually thought you had good taste in music
Well produced but still not his best effort
I noticed that. He just exposed himself. Now, let's see him wiggle his way out of this one.
:sas:
his best effort is reasonable doubt
but kingdom come is the best sonically
well this was obviously to me
VVVV
and then i replied to this and your reply read like it was a response to what i was saying
considering the topic was KINGDOM COME, i’m not sure what you’re going on about if u weren’t replying to that
as I said I wasn't talking to you I was talking to Doggfather
Dre mixed the whole thing but he only produced 4-5 songs.
why would i be butthurt over what u decide to listen to?
do you even think about what u say or do u just say whatever first pops up in your mind?
and jay-z kingdom come is not even new … the album is from 2006 and entirely produced/mixed by dre
just because you’re not a true dr dre head and overlooked an album he did in the 2000s doesn’t mean u gota hurl insults outa defensiveness homie
your schtick is see through
Dre mixed the whole thing but he only produced 4-5 songs.
Dre mixed the whole thing but he only produced 4-5 songs.
yea… he mixed the entire album. it was essentially a jay+dre album.
Prob is Dre doesn’t have a sound right now. Hasn’t found it yet, but maybe he has for this album
I don't think Dr.Dre ever had a sound. He knows how to uplift à sound and turn it into a eargasmic experience but I don't think he had a specific sound. I give credits to Sam Sneed, Scott Storch, Mel-man, Daz, Fred wreck and Above The Law, for crafting the sound throughout the years
stop …
dre had a sound
and from efil4zaggin all the way to relapse, that sound had traces of that same piano driven, simple drums with sonically incredible low end that dre was well known for
others creating his sound was always a myth, as he worked directly with musicians to get that sound he favored
that’s why whether it was scott storch, mike elizando, sam sneed, mel-man, the glove, etc .. didn’t matter who the session player was .. we could always tell when it was dre
it’s true that lately his productions have been more chaotic and all over the place .. but missionary is his chance to go back to and/or re-establish that signature sound
I have always questioned just how much Quincy actually did on Thriller. I mean, he had no input at all into a lot of tracks on there - Billie Jean, Thriller, Beat It, Human Nature, and I think also Baby Be Mine, but could be wrong on that last one.
I know the original demo's and alternative versions of all of the tracks on there are slightly different, but the originals and demo's still sound far better than other original versions I've heard that have went through the studio conveyor belt. Like Dre, I think he gets way too much credit on the music side, when like Dre, Quincy is probably really good at the business side - even back then, in those days as a black man with all the hurdles he would have had
To me, Dre is following Quincy Jones foot steps. Quincy produced the hell out of Thriller but there was a whole team involved, same with BAD. I don't think Quincy had a specific sound. Same with Dre.
Listening to Marsha's album, I hope he sticks to that. Well put instrumentation and great listening experience that fits the artist
I have always questioned just how much Quincy actually did on Thriller. I mean, he had no input at all into a lot of tracks on there - Billie Jean, Thriller, Beat It, Human Nature, and I think also Baby Be Mine, but could be wrong on that last one.
I know the original demo's and alternative versions of all of the tracks on there are slightly different, but the originals and demo's still sound far better than other original versions I've heard that have went through the studio conveyor belt. Like Dre, I think he gets way too much credit on the music side, when like Dre, Quincy is probably really good at the business side - even back then, in those days as a black man with all the hurdles he would have had
That's kinda how I feel as well, like Dre can upgrade a production or put an album together and make it sonically impeccable but as far as beat making and sound goes thats where the co-production comes in.
dre is extremely capable of making beats from scratch on his own .. most of his NWA stuff was solo .. some of his best beats ala Just Dippin were solo and contain that signature sound u claimed doesn’t exist
but Dre is a true producer as he understand that having a team under him to direct yields the most prosperous results
That's what I am trying to say. In your opinion, "Just Dippin" is some of his best work and that says alot. Although I love "Just Dippin" and the concept of it, it doesn't appeal to the bigger hip-hop audience. It's mostly regional.
most of his hits are regional sounding
nothin but a g thang
let me ride
who am i?
gin n juice
still dre
i can go on
these are all prototypical west coast productions that made the world fall in love with California hip-hop
just dippin is a classic .. the return of dre n snoop rapping together .. it wasn’t a hit because they didn’t make it a single. but i’ve never met anyone who had anything bad to say bout that song.
Outside of California, nobody knows Just Dippin unless you are an hard-core west coast fan. The ones that you have mentioned above are a cheat code.
Well said
stop …
dre had a sound
and from efil4zaggin all the way to relapse, that sound had traces of that same piano driven, simple drums with sonically incredible low end that dre was well known for
others creating his sound was always a myth, as he worked directly with musicians to get that sound he favored
that’s why whether it was scott storch, mike elizando, sam sneed, mel-man, the glove, etc .. didn’t matter who the session player was .. we could always tell when it was dre
it’s true that lately his productions have been more chaotic and all over the place .. but missionary is his chance to go back to and/or re-establish that signature sound
Outside of California, nobody knows Just Dippin unless you are an hard-core west coast fan. The ones that you have mentioned above are a cheat code.
Waaaaat Just Dippin was a classic in Europe at the time, but you are still too young for that, otherwise you would have known
LOL
dude trippin
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Definitely not tripping. This song is a classic amongst the fanbase but outside of it..who the fuck knows about Just Dippin??? It is not a known hip-hop song.
Waaaaat Just Dippin was a classic in Europe at the time, but you are still too young for that, otherwise you would have known
Definitely not tripping. This song is a classic amongst the fanbase but outside of it..who the fuck knows about Just Dippin??? It is not a known hip-hop song.
like i said.. wasn’t a single
but monumental for west coast hip hop
a songs quality isn’t measured only by his success it is .. unless u tryna claim laffy taffy > just dippin
LOL
Key word "West Coast Hiphop".. let's stop it right here. I respect your opinion and your preferences, but we are stating two different facts and debating further won't go anywhere
Dre should be somewhere putting in the final touches to hand in the album for September 1 8)
Don't know why you guys are focused on Just Dippin' when that same album had a much bigger (well known) hit in Bitch Please. I'm here in NJ, and nobody here knows Just Dippin but most older heads will recognize Bitch Please.
Also keep in mind that these songs are REALLY old. I was in high school when Bitch Please was making noise. I'm 42 now. :laugh:
Going to miss Nate Dogg popping up on songs like bitch please and next episode with a dope ass chorus … shit ain’t the same
they could get nate on there
nate’s estate is sitting on tons of unreleased nate vocals
snoops last album had this joint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrh_0lnOQLM
I Agree just dippin is very underrated and i love it. hittman wrote dre's lyrics by the way.
also there is a remix version which features butch cassidy and produced by dj battlecat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4M8E3vQl0c
Bad Azz wrote the Dre part from what i remember he got credit as well for writing it on the little credits that were accurate on the no limit albums …
only reason i remember heard/read Daz got no credit on Snoop first album there for I believe Hoes Money & Clout and DOGs Get Lonely Too ( he helped replay the music because of the prince sample with Soopafly u read back I the day in the source or MTV news also on Mack 10 Only in California was him. And Soopafly and Daz wrote the book , that’s why he made the In California single)
I Agree just dippin is very underrated and i love it. hittman wrote dre's lyrics by the way.
also there is a remix version which features butch cassidy and produced by dj battlecat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4M8E3vQl0c
damn why is this my 1st time hearing this lol? its dope as hell but I wouldn't expect anything less from Battlecat
I agree about the song being underrated...when I first bought the album I actually prefered this and Buck Em to Bitch Please
this remix lp is kinda hot!
I think thera are two versions of that LP.
this remix lp is kinda hot!
Sort of. There are two different covers, but the tracklist is the same (the order of the songs might be slightly different, but they're all the same songs).
damn why is this my 1st time hearing this lol? its dope as hell but I wouldn't expect anything less from Battlecat
I agree about the song being underrated...when I first bought the album I actually prefered this and Buck Em to Bitch Please
I’d actually rank them personally like this:
1) Buck Em
2) Just Dippin
3) Bitch Please
But really, they are all great songs
just dippin is my favorite of the 3
Not a bad choice at all- I feel it could’ve been huge if pushed properly.
yea they shoulda dropped it as a single.. woulda been bigger than B Please
altho B Please helped launch Xzibit’s career
yea they shoulda dropped it as a single.. woulda been bigger than B Please
altho B Please helped launch Xzibit’s career
In my memory X already had Paparazzi in 96 but now that I look at wikipedia maybe it was a bigger hit worldwide than in the US. The song was #4 on the dutch top 40 but #83 on US billboard. That’s wild. All these years I thought that was one of the biggest rap hits of my childhood so I figured it was the same in the US.
Still talking about 99 and 2000 albums in the Missionary thread smh 😂😂
In my memory X already had Paparazzi in 96 but now that I look at wikipedia maybe it was a bigger hit worldwide than in the US. The song was #4 on the dutch top 40 but #83 on US billboard. That’s wild. All these years I thought that was one of the biggest rap hits of my childhood so I figured it was the same in the US.
Xzibit definitely was making noise…Paparazzi and What U See videos were definitely in rotation. And his guest appearance on King Tee’s song Freestyle Ghetto got some attention too. He was respected and had a following, but no one really saw stardom coming for him.
Dre and Pimp My Ride did the job.
he doesn’t get to pimp my ride witout dre
N's In Paris is one of the worst songs I've ever heard. Lazy ass writing. "Don't lemme get in my zone, don't lemme get in my zone" GTFO.
What You may not know is that a nigga from the west produced this HITBOY
To go circle back to the MISSIONARY topic; Do yall think that some of the production will come from the LL Cool.J x Dr.Dre album that was recently scrapped? They did over 30 songs
maybe but something that was confirmed it that there could joints that were previously on the Jon Connor LP.
he was making noise
in the underground
he wasnt star status til he got wit dre
that's exactly when I really took notice of him
the only thing I knew about X in '96 is that he was that cat who made paparazzi
I knew the video seeing it on BET and thought it was a tight track but didn't really know anything much about him
then again I cant speak for other parts of the US at the time only NYC
Hopefully Dre and Snoop study LL and Q-tips new album to see how vets should get down in the game. The Force is true art with production that is both fresh and nostalgic, classic and experimental. And LL absolutely murders this album. If anything, this album shows that the grests can still be great at an advanced age.
I REALLY hope Snoop and Dre can bring it
I think it pretty much boils down to the dre production on the new album. To be honest I don't think the new style we have heard from dre over the last few years with the thicker more musical style will fit snoop at all. Snoops rapping style is based upon simple rhythm so im just hoping the production is way more stripped down.One thing for sure is that Snoop will sound at his absolute best on this album as he always does with Dre associated. It all comes down to what the production and vibe of the album will sound like for me. Will it sound dated? More grand and musical like the Marsha album? Or will we get an entirely new and fresh Dre sound? I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
was bumping Doggystyle for the first rhyme (time) in years this week. It was still flawless and brought back so many great memories. The Itunes version has "G'z Up And Hoes Down" which I had not bumped in years, because I had the o.g. album with that version but just hadn't listened to it in years. That track flows so well with the sequence of the album. Then that fuccin "PUMP PUMP" shit comes in so fire, with the Lil Malik and love how they used it in the Above the Rim movie. One complaint on the Itunes version though they have that long intro in front of Doggy Dogg World as part of all the same track. So it makes it hard to play on repeat.
Also, I know nobody ever wants to give Daz his props but I think Daz contributions to the album are FIRE!! He was all in like practically riding harder on that shit than Snoop himself. Like you really believed he was ready to fuccin take a bullet or some shit just to show he didn't give a fucc and make his point.
...Only one track I had to skip, "Murder Was The Case". I got to admit, as nostalgic as I am for the good ol days, that shit really is kind of about selling your soul to the devil and shit like that. I mean I don't think it was part of some industry conspiracy back then, I think it was just some shit that Snoop and Dre thought would be dope, and it was the hardest shit ever and still is... but I can't help but admit even back as a kid I kind of took it as like "oh yeah cool, the devil is gonna make Snoop "live like a baller loc, havin money, and blowin hella Chronic smoke"
Im not confident this is the classic vibe/sound i'm expecting or looming forward to if snoop is singing on the Sting track!
I don't mind snoop doing some melodic (psuedo singing rap) lines he's done in the past like on Doggy Style etc, but i'll wait until I hear the track before making my mind up
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2024/09/08/80s-rock-star-announces-extremely-unexpected-collaboration-snoop-dogg-21568590/amp/
Message in a bottle remake is the sting track. Could be interesting
Are you expecting Doggystyle 2, 31 years later?
Are you expecting Doggystyle 2, 31 years later?
Nope.Snoop's album Bush produced by Pharell, his album with Dam Funk, and his Snoop Lion album had him singing so it's not far fetched to hear him singing on a track or 2
Trying to recreate doggystyle wont be possible, but having snoop singing isn't the positive sign i am looking for.
If it's a like here and there, then it would be fine, but if he is singing whole verses then not.
I know he sang on Leave me alone (from Tha Last Meal), but that wasn't a Snoop & Dre Project.
As Teecee said, a classic hip hop sound with a modern twist, some quality beats and well written lyrics is all im asking for. If it's too experimental, then I think the fans will feel a little disappointed.
I feel it could be like a Doggumentary vibe, which I liked but would be a let down for the expectations for a Snoop and Dre reunion album
Cool, sounds like this could be a single
yeah its hard to make the argument that Doggystyle isn't the GOAT album
its as perfect as you can get and Gz Up Hos Down which I'm lucky to have on my OG CD just makes it even more complete
now if only we had the OG Next Episode to close it out like its listed on the back
but Pump Pump more than does the job as the closer
I don’t know what to expect…but i would LIKE some quality hip hop with a monster single or two.
It IS possible to deliver the classic sound but updated(check LL new album with Q-Tip)
It looks like Snoop and Dre are filming something with F. Gary Gray. Could it be a music video from the new album?
It looks like Snoop and Dre are filming something with F. Gary Gray. Could it be a music video from the new album?
https://www.instagram.com/p/C_v0kZ8SvNX/?igsh=MXM5bncwbWN5aGJ1OA==
Something is coming !! Video shoot with Dre and F Gary Gray
Damn, it's middle of September and still no reliable info about the album and release date...Normally we are still 2 months from the release. so nothing alarming
https://www.instagram.com/p/C_v0kZ8SvNX/?igsh=MXM5bncwbWN5aGJ1OA==
Something is coming !! Video shoot with Dre and F Gary Gray
Normally we are still 2 months from the release. so nothing alarming
Damn, it's middle of September and still no reliable info about the album and release date...
Does that honestly surprise you considering it's Dre?
Yes
Does that honestly surprise you considering it's Dre?
I hope there’s some unreleased Nate Dogg hooks or anything
They altered Sting's voice with AI to sound like Nate Dogg. He also plays guitar on the song which they altered with AI to sound like Nile Rodgers. Pretty wild.whuut? hell nahhhh
They altered Sting's voice with AI to sound like Nate Dogg. He also plays guitar on the song which they altered with AI to sound like Nile Rodgers. Pretty wild.
They altered Sting's voice with AI to sound like Nate Dogg. He also plays guitar on the song which they altered with AI to sound like Nile Rodgers. Pretty wild.
Dee Barnes on the remix too
They altered Sting's voice with AI to sound like Nate Dogg. He also plays guitar on the song which they altered with AI to sound like Nile Rodgers. Pretty wild.
Dee Barnes on the remix too
just a random question and not really related to the new album, but how many albums has dre executive produced outside of his own label? I know xzibit restless but anymore?
Reservoir strikes publishing deal with Snoop Dogg for rap star's hits and Death Row catalogue
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The deals include domestic publishing for Snoop Dogg’s entire catalogue of hits and future works, as well as the publishing catalogue of the rapper’s Death Row Records.
Born Calvin Broadus Jr, Snoop Dogg’s fame dates back to 1992 when he first appeared as a featured artist on Dr Dre’s debut single, Deep Cover. The following year he released his debut album, Doggystyle, via Death Row Records. The LP featured hit singles What’s My Name? and Gin and Juice.
To date, Snoop Dogg has released a total of 19 solo albums, with his 20th LP, Missionary, produced by Dr Dre, in the works. His lengthy list of hit collaborations include Young, Wild & Free with Wiz Khalifa feat. Bruno Mars, The Next Episode with Dr Dre, California Gurls with Katy Perry, P.I.M.P with 50 Cent, and Wiggle with Jason Derulo, among many others.
Drop It Like It’s Hot topped several charts including the Hot 100, and earned Grammy nominations for Best Rap Song and Best Rap Performance by a Duo or Group.
Snoop Dogg has 16 Grammy nominations, a star on the Hollywood Walk Of Fame and an American Music Award win for Favorite Rap/Hip-Hop Artist.
In addition to his acting career, Snoop Dogg has built numerous business ventures and secured endorsement deals worldwide. He is now a coach on NBC’s The Voice for its 26th season, joining Gwen Stefani, Reba McEntire and Michael Bublé.
In 2022, following the triumphant and Emmy Award-winning Super Bowl LVI halftime show, Snoop Dogg announced the acquisition of Death Row Records. Death Row released major albums by Snoop himself, Dr. Dre (The Chronic) and 2Pac (All Eyez on Me), among others.
In 2023, following his acquisition of the label, Snoop Dogg announced a new publishing business under the Death Row umbrella, representing many songwriters within the Death Row family. Reservoir’s new agreement with that publishing arm includes rights to hits like Hail Mary by Makaveli, I Ain’t Mad At Cha by 2Pac, and Picture Me Rollin’ by 2Pac, among many others.
Being in business with Snoop is an exciting opportunity to support his legendary catalogue
Golnar Khosrowshahi
On signing the deal, Snoop Dogg said: “I’m so honoured to have them as a partner and excited for all the great things to come with the catalogue as well as new music ventures.”
“Legendary artists only need one name. Snoop is part of that echelon,” said Donna Caseine, Reservoir executive vice president, global creative director. “From music, to brands, television, and film, his acumen represents excellence. For the last three decades he has been a pillar of hip-hop music and popular culture. He helped write Death Row Records into music’s history books. It is an honour to support Snoop’s vision and work with the Death Row family alongside Jaslin Levy, Sabriya Dublin, Sara Ramaker, and their entire team.”
Golnar Khosrowshahi, Reservoir founder and CEO, said: “Being in business with Snoop is an exciting opportunity to support his legendary catalogue, leveraging his massive stardom to further embed his music across mainstream media.”
She added: “This deal also marks a unique moment to help further the legacy of an important and valuable brand like Death Row. Snoop has come full circle with Death Row, showcasing his ongoing dedication to upholding its rich history – something Reservoir has proven as a core value and area of expertise across our business.”
Rell Lafargue, Reservoir’s president & COO, told Music Week last year: “Hip-hop has been a priority at Reservoir since day one,” says Lafargue. “It’s always been a genre that we focused on, as we recognise its cultural importance as well as its commercial value and crossover potential, especially as streaming was building as a format.”
Method Man on Missionary
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LnNfYW7eub0?si=hcgw76CbDlBSCtCY
Method Man is still dropping amazing verses so this is gonna be good
I guess tour coming early 2025? https://hiphopdx.com/news/snoop-dogg-teases-tour-missionary-album-dr-dre
"Reservoir has a varied and eclectic catalog of songs to license music for film, tv, trailers, advertisements, video games, NFTs, and more."
Normally we are still 2 months from the release. so nothing alarming
well we do have some info about the album now but I believe Dre said for it to come out in November they had to be done with it around the 1st of September
so my guess December at the earliest....but who knows it might still drop next month or next year
How long before Snoop loses patience and releases a quick thrown together album to get something out there, which in turn, ruins the mystique of the new album that Dre wants and now Dre backs out and the whole thing is done?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZsJreCGOvQU?si=bzHp5HdkOtW555K7
Dr.Dre and Snoop Dogg Interview with Big Boy
Nah, purely clickbate, the article states:That's why I said I guess
"The article continued, mentioning “talk of a tour as early as next year,” though those are the writer’s words and not Snoop’s — a direct quote is not cited."
So A) Snoop never said a tour, a writer interpreted it. and B) No mention of said tour having anything to do with Missionary.
This is a whole lot of nothing.
How Snoop Dogg Bet Big—On Himself
The hip-hop legend has gone from parental advisory to family friendly. This fall, he’ll join The Voice and release a new Dr. Dre–produced album, all while looking for new joint ventures—including the kind you roll—that will keep his grandchildren set for life.
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Brush with Greatness: Most of the art in Snoop’s Compound is produced by his fans.
Striding through the streets of Paris, the Olympic flame held high above his head, Snoop Dogg was surely the first torchbearer ever asked to do the Crip Walk—the hip-hop strut made famous in his “Drop It Like It’s Hot” video—by an adoring fan. The 52-year-old rap legend happily obliged, much to the delight of the French crowd.
Moments like that are why people of all ages, genders and races feel as if they actually know Snoop, like a friend who has been in their lives for 30 years. “I’m not distant,” he tells Forbes as he kicks back in the private casino at his 25,000-square-foot workspace-cum-playground in Inglewood, California, that he calls The Compound. “I’m, like, touchable.”
That familiarity, combined with the unmistakable figure cut by his slender 6-foot-4 frame and long braided hair, make it difficult for the rapper born Calvin Broadus Jr. to go out in public without causing a scene. It’s why he spends so much time at The Compound, which also features recording studios, an arcade and a basketball court. Armed with a fresh blunt and a comically oversized ashtray, he attempts to explain why seemingly everyone wants a piece of the D-O-double-G these days.
“I just think when you’re organic and authentic to who you are, eventually the world will catch up,” he says. “What I didn’t do was try to follow the fads or the trends. I just stayed me the whole way.”
The public perception of Snoop has certainly come a long way since his early years in and out of prison and his emergence as a West Coast rap pioneer, beginning with 1993’s Doggystyle. While sentiments around hip-hop and cannabis have shifted in the decades since, Snoop has also worked hard at reinvention—while staying true to who he is. Whether he’s putting out a reggae or gospel record, appearing in movies such as Old School and Training Day or producing an animated show for kids, Snoop’s brand has morphed from parental-advisory to family-friendly.
Coming off his work for NBC at the Olympics, Snoop has never been more popular or more in-demand. This fall, he’ll debut as the newest coach on The Voice, and in December, he’ll release Missionary, an album produced by his longtime mentor Dr. Dre. He also has a handful of entrepreneurial ventures he hopes will benefit from his newfound status as America’s favorite stoner uncle.
“Of course there is a level of danger with him, but more than anything he’s a fun person to be around,” says the 59-year-old Dr. Dre, who cofounded Death Row Records in 1991 and headphone maker Beats Electronics 15 years later. “We’re never going to change who we are.
“But,” he adds, “the fact that cannabis is legal now—that definitely helps.”
How Snoop Dogg Went From Parental Advisory to Family Favorite
Snoop’s latest turn as “peace messenger”—the moniker given to any Olympic torchbearer—is one he took very seriously in Paris. Whether he was swimming with Michael Phelps, dancing with Simone Biles or watching dressage with his longtime friend Martha Stewart, he radiated a positivity and playfulness that resonated with viewers.
“It’s everything we hoped for, and more,” says Molly Solomon, executive producer and president of programming for NBC Olympics. “He was as big a Paris headliner as any non-athlete has ever been.”
Solomon hopes Snoop will return not only for the 2028 Summer Games in his hometown of Los Angeles, but also for the 2026 Winter Games in Italy. At least there he won’t be asked to eat escargots on camera, as he was during a segment at Paris’ three-Michelin-star restaurant Le Cinq. “Y’all can put a pretty word on it all y’all want, try to make it cute, fry it, put seasoning on it,” he says of the French delicacy. “I don’t eat no snails.”
Despite his popularity surge and past as a pitchman for—among much else—Petco, Tostitos and Corona, Snoop has recently shifted away from endorsements to ventures in which he can participate in profits or get equity stakes. In 2020, he struck a licensing deal with 19 Crimes to launch a red wine with his face on the label, which the company says hit its 12-month sales target in the first six weeks. Dr. Bombay Ice Cream, a 50/50 joint venture with Happi Foodi, reported $10 million in sales since launching last August.
In the cannabis world—to which Snoop has been connected since he reportedly sold weed to high school classmate Cameron Diaz—he is so influential that a publicity stunt late last year in which he announced he would “give up smoke” caused publicly traded cannabis stocks to plummet—until he was later revealed to be promoting a smokeless fire pit. While he has ended his involvement with Casa Verde, the $350 million (2024 assets under management) cannabis-focused venture capital fund he cofounded in 2015, his Death Row Cannabis brand launched last year with stores in Los Angeles and Amsterdam.
Dressage to Kill Snoop twinned with Martha Stewart at an equestrian event during the Paris Olympics.
The hub for this burgeoning business empire is Death Row Records, the same label that first signed Snoop in the early ’90s but declined before eventually filing for bankruptcy in 2006. In 2022, Snoop purchased Death Row for an estimated $10 million from the Blackstone-controlled MNRK Music Group. On Friday, New York City-based catalog collector Reservoir Media announced a new publishing deal for Snoop’s past catalog and future works, as well as the publishing catalog of Death Row.
“I own the label, and I want to have ownership in the things that I promote and market because I realize I’m good at it,” he says. “It don’t make no sense for me to take a check for $10 million and promote your company and it makes $500 million.”
It’s the same theory behind Gin and Juice, his L.A.-based startup that produces a ready-to-drink cocktail named for his 1993 hit single, which he launched earlier this year with Dr. Dre and record executive Jimmy Iovine. Snoop says that when he name-dropped gin brands like Seagram’s and Tanqueray in the lyrics, he didn’t realize how much money he was going to make for them.
He’s also passionate about Missionary, the first full album Dr. Dre has produced for Snoop since Doggystyle. “I feel like this is some of the best music I’ve ever done,” Dr. Dre says. “This is going to give him something new to perform onstage, and that’s what I was thinking about while producing this record.”
Adds Snoop: “Music is my foundation. That’s the root of who I am, so I can never run away from that. And I feel like one thing about great music and great musicians, they’re timeless.”
With talk of a tour as early as next year, there are no signs of Snoop slowing down. At this point in his career, he says he’s motivated to keep working by his 12 grandchildren and the participants in his Snoop Youth Football League, which he supports financially.
“I think about the perspective of the Olympics, I think about running a race,” he says of his career arc. “When I was given the baton, most people were already around the lap four or five times, but now at the pace I’ve been running, I’ve lapped them four or five times. So how do I give the baton to my grandkids to where they ahead of the race and not behind?”
How long before Snoop loses patience and releases a quick thrown together album to get something out there, which in turn, ruins the mystique of the new album that Dre wants and now Dre backs out and the whole thing is done?
lol he just did that with the Dogg pound album
Marsha Ambrosius – Casablanco
you are right
it was just released a few months ago too :snoop:
I just listened to Outta da Blue again for the first time since it dropped…and wtf?? Snoop sounds EXACTLY how I’m hoping he will for this album, and Dre sounds decent as well; the back and forth verses are what is missing from hip hop nowadays. BUT, the production and chorus are utter trash…the worst production I’ve ever heard either spit on (and Snoop has rapped over some horrible beats over the years)
This song is only talked about on this forum anyway, there is a major promo Run happening for Snoop (n Dre) right now. It's coming!
This song is only talked about on this forum anyway, there is a major promo Run happening for Snoop (n Dre) right now. It's coming!
Where is the promo?The fact that Dre is outside and doing interviews speaking on the album means it’s coming. And Snoop is probably the most visible person in entertainment right now. There’s a lot of talk about the album happening not only by Dre and Snoop, but by others in the industry. And obviously this album is being promoted by the Gin and Juice drink as well.
Where is the promo?
This song is only talked about on this forum anyway, there is a major promo Run happening for Snoop (n Dre) right now. It's coming!
Where? Other than dedicated rap fans searching out little tidbits of information in unrelated Snoop interviews, i haven't seen any mainstream promo for this album or anyone doing an interview or podcast about this specific album.
It's always "Snoop and the olympics" or Dre and the Gin and Juice drinks, and then during the interview, one of them might casually say "yeah Dre and I are back in the studio" or "Dre and I might be working on something"...
That's hardly a major promo run.
Where? Other than dedicated rap fans searching out little tidbits of information in unrelated Snoop interviews, i haven't seen any mainstream promo for this album or anyone doing an interview or podcast about this specific album.
It's always "Snoop and the olympics" or Dre and the Gin and Juice drinks, and then during the interview, one of them might casually say "yeah Dre and I are back in the studio" or "Dre and I might be working on something"...
That's hardly a major promo run.
What's the point in promoting something that doesn't have a confirmed date. They don't caree nough about sales enough to put the time or money into promotion. So few people are actually paying for music now especially around major artist that why would they? Who on this thread apart from 2 or 3 people will actually BUY the album when it comes out? You could stream it every day for the rest of your life and it still wouldn't net anyone involved a single $.
i mean look at 90s artists like jay-z .. he went platinum on his last effort
if marketed properly, there’s still room for a successful album rollout
don’t need a date necessarily.. just promote the album as coming soon and then when a date drops that in itself becomes noteworthy …. similar to how eminem just dropped.
What's the point in promoting something that doesn't have a confirmed date. They don't caree nough about sales enough to put the time or money into promotion. So few people are actually paying for music now especially around major artist that why would they? Who on this thread apart from 2 or 3 people will actually BUY the album when it comes out? You could stream it every day for the rest of your life and it still wouldn't net anyone involved a single $.
i mean look at 90s artists like jay-z .. he went platinum on his last effort
if marketed properly, there’s still room for a successful album rollout
don’t need a date necessarily.. just promote the album as coming soon and then when a date drops that in itself becomes noteworthy …. similar to how eminem just dropped.
I totally agree, the album isn't close to being ready, and there isn't any promotion for it. These are the same people who thought Detox was coming for 15 years, and now maybe finally they have realized, although i'm sure there are some people who think Dre is still close to dropping Detox. The minute Snoop makes one little hint at something, people are like "Missionary is coming this week!!" Give it up.
It's more than likely locked in at this stage in terms of a finalised tracklist but the other stuff still has to follow. It's a Snoop/Dre album. It doesn't need a lengthy promotion. Years ago before streaming then yes there would be the gradual rollout but such a thing is null and void these days.
That platinum wasn't physical sales though. Streams don't count as 'sales' as far as I'm concerned.
Based on what exactly? What makes you think the tracklist and album are locked?
why you so heated about this bro lmao
dre said they are deciding between 14 or 16 tracks or something.
mentioned he's 1/3 of the way through mixing or whatever he said etc.
dre saying stuff like that is new - he's never outside actually acknowledging things. last time he did, was marsha. that came - very late, but it came.
why you so heated about this bro lmao
dre said they are deciding between 14 or 16 tracks or something.
mentioned he's 1/3 of the way through mixing or whatever he said etc.
dre saying stuff like that is new - he's never outside actually acknowledging things. last time he did, was marsha. that came - very late, but it came.
I'm just trying to keep things in this thread as accurate as possible. I want the album to come out as badly as everyone here. No anger from me. But it's posts like the one above that gets people confused, angry and frustrated towards the artists, record companies, etc. When people post statements as actual facts, with nothing to support what they say, that's when it gets frustrating.
Dre said he had to be done mixing by Sept 1st to make a November release date. That obviously didn't happen. There is no locked in tracklist yet, there is no album completion, no mixing completed, no release date set. I've seen recent posts on IG from artists saying they are still recording for it.
People trying to be detectives, like "Dre said this in one interview, then Snoop said this other thing, and 8 months ago, DOC said this, so that must mean the album is being released this week". No one is dropping any subtle hints or trying to have fans decode secret things. And honestly, i want accurate information too. So my purpose of questioning the prior post was to show me where that information was gathered from so I could see for myself. If it came from an accurate source, that's great news. But throwing out speculation and trying to pass it off as fact isn't helpful.
Dre had Marsha since 2013, over 10 years to release the album. So yeah, great Dre finally released it. But that doesn't mean this Snoop album, that Dre's been talking about for the past year and a half is any closer to being completed.
I don't agree with some takes on the promotion of this album.The album is on Aftermath so Dre has more say so than you think.
Snoop doesn't rely on album music sales anymore. Snoop is huge. Look how much money he made from the Olympics, and now he is on the Voice.
Think of it this way - Snoops new album doesn't need promotion, because the album itself is promotion for Snoop Dogg. Snoop markets himself now. Do you think Gin and Juice is this revolutionary drink? Of course not. People are buying it strictly because it is attached to Snoop and Dre.
People like Snoop don't need to spend a ton of promotion for his music. I don't think Snoop or Dre are expecting the album to sell millions of copies. The album will simply continue to promote both Snoop and Dre. And if the album ends up being well received, then that is a bonus.
This isn't like someone like RBX who really isn't a household name and can use his image to promote more business opportunities. RBX can't use his album as a promotional opportunity to get new gigs. RBX really needs the album to sell some copies, otherwise it is probably a net loss for him. Even if Snoops new album barely sells anything, it will still promote the hell out of Snoop Dogg and keep him in the lime light.
I've watched the interviews with Snoop and Dre and I do believe the album will be released. Dre never promoted "Detox" like this. Nothing ever concrete was discussed by Dre. Plus, at the end of the day, this is Snoops album and whether Dre likes it or not, Snoop can release it. I just think Snoop is trying to listen to Dre and take his direction as much as possible, but I doubt Snoop would shelve the album because dre isn't satisfied with it.
The album is on Aftermath so Dre has more say so than you think.
Oh, did not realize it was being released on Aftermath. Strange considering Snoop owns DR.
Oh, did not realize it was being released on Aftermath. Strange considering Snoop owns DR.
it will not be released this year i guess.
it will not be released
So the album features Jelly Roll (and I’m not talking the producer)? Damn. I mean, I appreciate Jell Roll’s come-up and all, but don’t need to hear him in a Snoop album. Wtf
So the album features Jelly Roll (and I’m not talking the producer)? Damn. I mean, I appreciate Jell Roll’s come-up and all, but don’t need to hear him in a Snoop album. Wtf
I agree with you but 'On the Blvd' from The Wash soundtrack was solid
Different jelly roll champ
Really?
I only know that Jelly Roll, lol!
Yeah I normally don’t judge features but damn.
But this is snoop 2024 not 1992 I guess
I’m hoping for a Snoop, Eminem and 50cent track produced by Dre, Snoop was featured on em’s greatest hits album and 50 recently said he’s dream collaboration would be a song with snoop and em.
I was the same until recently. I think his appearance on the Eminem album was the forst I realised it was someone else. i only learned this week that Octobver London is a male. Was convinced it was a female for some reason. Can't know everything!
:dead:
Jelly Roll and Sting? Snoop & Dre made a pop album.
All the Years by Joell Ortiz and Heatmakerz great Story telling
sampled
Holding Back the Years by Simply Red
Snoop and Dre are legends, why wouldn't they work with another legend in Sting?
I much rather hear a grown man album anyway rather than gangsta tales from 50 year old OG Snoop ;D
Of the reworked version of The Police hit song that Snoop has remixed, set for release in November, the 72-year-old explained: ‘Me and Snoop made a recording of Message In A Bottle, which he’s called something else.’
‘I played the guitar and I sang on it, but Snoop also sings on this, which is quite a revelation to me,’ he added, as well as sharing his view that the US star was ‘a very nice man’.
https://metro.co.uk/2024/09/08/80s-rock-star-announces-extremely-unexpected-collaboration-snoop-dogg-21568590/
It's Dr.Dre he could remake the Sesame street theme song and still make it great. Will wait!
213 already did that … but only a shitty version leaked lol
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBJUr_WPT0WYeah, this is another Detox/Beats By Dre situation....
Yeah, this is another Detox/Beats By Dre situation....
See, this is why I don’t want Sting on the album. Of course it’s just a remake instead of something innovative. I’m not sure Dre really has a direction for this album but I hope I’m pleasantly surprised.
Of the reworked version of The Police hit song that Snoop has remixed, set for release in November, the 72-year-old explained: ‘Me and Snoop made a recording of Message In A Bottle, which he’s called something else.’
‘I played the guitar and I sang on it, but Snoop also sings on this, which is quite a revelation to me,’ he added, as well as sharing his view that the US star was ‘a very nice man’.
https://metro.co.uk/2024/09/08/80s-rock-star-announces-extremely-unexpected-collaboration-snoop-dogg-21568590/
I have 2 questions for yall.
1. Noting that Snoop Dogg is the most famous entertainer alive, do you still expect him to go back and release the same content he did 31 years ago? He is almost in his mid 50's. Dr.Dre got away from the G-Funk sound since 96, why are we expecting them to drop something that haven't done in years and is not the reason of their current success.
2. Outside of this forum, do you guys listen to hip-hop? Or follow the evolution of it? There seems to be a huge disconnect where people are stuck in the 90s. People like Larry June or Tyler The Creator get ignored here, for example
I have 2 questions for yall.I think the reason that some people are expecting something along the lines of Doggystyle is the title of “Missionary”.
1. Noting that Snoop Dogg is the most famous entertainer alive, do you still expect him to go back and release the same content he did 31 years ago? He is almost in his mid 50's. Dr.Dre got away from the G-Funk sound since 96, why are we expecting them to drop something that haven't done in years and is not the reason of their current success.
2. Outside of this forum, do you guys listen to hip-hop? Or follow the evolution of it? There seems to be a huge disconnect where people are stuck in the 90s. People like Larry June or Tyler The Creator get ignored here, for example
Yeah, this is another Detox/Beats By Dre situation....
Today I'm almost sure we won't get it at least not fully produced by Dre. Maybe 1 or 2 songs will end up on next random Snoop's project.
Omg the topic starts again
Exactly, it's literally same thing all over again.
funnny, going back to those detox days, dre said back then, too, "im mixing the songs right now"
Exactly, it's literally same thing all over again.
When he had the Beats thing going on, he was talking about Detox non stop, saying how it was just couple mixes away from the completion and how the album will be there in a couple of months.
man i need a doctor was wack to meCareer low moment for Dr. Dre. Stupid Alex da Kid / Skylar Grey influence.
dr dre's return = alex the kid on the beat, gtfoh
Career low moment for Dr. Dre. Stupid Alex da Kid / Skylar Grey influence.
man i need a doctor was wack to me
dr dre's return = alex the kid on the beat, gtfoh
man i need a doctor was wack to mesad times to be a Dre fan back then
dr dre's return = alex the kid on the beat, gtfoh
sad times to be a Dre fan back then
Kush was dopeNope
Kush was dope
Kush was dope
And people say the album aint coming ;D
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kXDAHrHT6DM?si=uf9OC2qctS1Ipjr3
Hour long interview with Snoop and Dre on Stephen A Smith.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kXDAHrHT6DM?si=uf9OC2qctS1Ipjr3
Hour long interview with Snoop and Dre on Stephen A Smith.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kXDAHrHT6DM?si=uf9OC2qctS1Ipjr3
Hour long interview with Snoop and Dre on Stephen A Smith.
Was there any news of any importance? Name/release date of the first single? A tracklist? A release date? Anything?
For the record, I still don't think it's coming. It's all talk from Dre, just like it has been for the last 10 or so years.
To be fair, Dre isn't going to say Snoop sounds average or wack :D
I just can't believe we haven't had a leak of some track titles and audio snippets yet!
To be fair, Dre isn't going to say Snoop sounds average or wack :D
I just can't believe we haven't had a leak of some track titles and audio snippets yet!
DRE SAID THIS IS HIS THRILLER ALBUM..HYPE
Did he say that? Missed that
It’s funny hearing Dre say “I think an album should be one producer”
Mf has produced 3 albums in full last 25 years - 2001, Relapse, Marsha.
Maybe 4 if count Compton
Did he say that? Missed that
It’s funny hearing Dre say “I think an album should be one producer”
Mf has produced 3 albums in full last 25 years - 2001, Relapse, Marsha.
Maybe 4 if count Compton
And he clearly stated what his involvement in this album was.
He never said this is his thriller lmao
But I hear you guys
You understand English? He literally compared his work to the way Quincy worked on Thriller
Nope
:mjlol:
did you like this song? it was shit, with a shit chorus from Akon....with a guy who imitates Nate Dogg 🤮Akon's hook was average but that bridge by Sly, Kobe and Blaqthoven was great. Also The Game's remix with Slim tha mobster was fire. Daz and Blaq did some great remix too
Its an OK track at best
did you like this song? it was shit, with a shit chorus from Akon....with a guy who imitates Nate Dogg 🤮
Its an OK track at best
i’m not a big akon fan but his chorus went good wit the beat .. and the production was great.
cant hate on that joint.
but i just thought it was funny how u came in adamantly n said “nope”
:skip:
I hope this album will just be simple and funky on the productionside and not unnecessary complex like compton was. But Dre wants to be innovative, so i do not have a good feeling on this. They use the album as a promo for the liquor; if that sells well Dre/Interscope can pay off/compensate those Recording sessions of the last 20 years.If it wasn't for the liquor, they probably wouldn't even be doing this album.
Kush was dope
Tray Deee just posted a video to Insta wishing Snoop a happy birthday and the end is Snoop videoing a reply. He says he's "just finished filming a movie for Missionary", presumably a promo video?
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBXOtxYSJ-V/?hl=en (https://www.instagram.com/p/DBXOtxYSJ-V/?hl=en)
That outta da blue bullshit track is playing in his car
That's probably the video he was shooting lmao
Lol….was just about to post this.
Good news, at least that means the album is obviously done now, that they are shooting some type of movie for it .
And Tray Deee caption mentioned release date for Eastsidaz Single this Friday (or the whole album?)
Lol….was just about to post this.
Good news, at least that means the album is obviously done now, that they are shooting some type of movie for it .
And Tray Deee caption mentioned release date for Eastsidaz Single this Friday (or the whole album?)
God forbidTrue but unfortunately seems most likely
True but unfortunately seems most likely
That outta da blue bullshit track is playing in his car
That's probably the video he was shooting lmao
The right of Outta da Blue owns EA Games and is also not produced by Dr. Dre, I don't think it's on the album, Snoop only hears it in the background in the carWhat are you talking about? It is produced by Dre...
Best song we heard from "Detox" and it's better than anything on "Compton" to be honest. It's also one of the last songs that had that classic West Coast sound to it.
That outta da blue bullshit track is playing in his car
That's probably the video he was shooting lmao
Snoop and Dre BOtH flowin in that track; but the production is horrible and so is the chorus. The fact that it’s playing in the background is terrifying
I think quite the opposite, the fact that it's playing in the background means that it won't make the cut! I don't think they will leak music for this album just yet, it is not Dre or Jimmy's style.
new Lakers promo with Snoop narrating. some new? music playing in the background & the beat sounds COLD, definitely like an updated Death Row sound...
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBb6aROy4Ry/?igsh=aTJzaTZ3eTk1Yzc%3D
new Lakers promo with Snoop narrating. some new? music playing in the background & the beat sounds COLD, definitely like an updated Death Row sound...Sounds 🔥🔥🔥 hope this is what Missionary is going to sound like
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBb6aROy4Ry/?igsh=aTJzaTZ3eTk1Yzc%3D
Sounds 🔥🔥🔥 hope this is what Missionary is going to sound like
new Lakers promo with Snoop narrating. some new? music playing in the background & the beat sounds COLD, definitely like an updated Death Row sound...
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBb6aROy4Ry/?igsh=aTJzaTZ3eTk1Yzc%3D
new Lakers promo with Snoop narrating. some new? music playing in the background & the beat sounds COLD, definitely like an updated Death Row sound...
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBb6aROy4Ry/?igsh=aTJzaTZ3eTk1Yzc%3D
Yep…FIRE! Just this little snippet alone has more hit potential than any Dre beat I’ve heard in 15 years? Last Dre beat that hit me like that was Outta Control remix
that’s definitely dre
I hope it doesn't sound like this. This is nice for a west coast joint but meh... I expect some mind blowing shit.
I AM surprised that it’s so similar sounding to his past shit, but at least it sounds like a banger. In my opinion, IF he gonna go back to his sounds of the past, I’d love to see him update the early DR sound myself.
Pff beat is sick and definitly futuristic; like some next level Sam sneed shit. When the 90’s g funk transforms from megatron to galvatron.
Yeah, I can see a little Sam-Sneed type shit with this one
It’s not from the album. It’s not even Dre.https://youtube.com/watch?v=T79W4QV7ZWM?si=xXY6NJbWnho8jySA
The song is called « Bounce Rock Slide » by Andy Writer.
It’s not from the album. It’s not even Dre.
The song is called « Bounce Rock Slide » by Andy Writer.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=T79W4QV7ZWM?si=xXY6NJbWnho8jySA
Damn! All that excitement over nothing LOL
Still like the beat, tho ;)
crazy find! and you can grab the track for free (including instrumental) legally
https://gb.bammusic.com/albums/65d08579fa19ad5ed9246a18/Welcome%20to%20LA%202
here's the instrumental 8)
https://fromsmash.com/POftII2yep-bt
crazy find! and you can grab the track for free (including instrumental) legally
https://gb.bammusic.com/albums/65d08579fa19ad5ed9246a18/Welcome%20to%20LA%202
here's the instrumental 8)
https://fromsmash.com/POftII2yep-bt
Andre Writer, Dimitri L Syde, Jim Condelli, Heyalak Jones
Legends in the game
This album must be coming out soon, I’m thinking within the next couple weeks. No way they would be previewing it for people like this if it wasn’t going to drop soon.
This album must be coming out soon, I’m thinking within the next couple weeks. No way they would be previewing it for people like this if it wasn’t going to drop soon.
Listening party for Marsha was way before album finally dropped l. Feb 23 or some shit. Didn’t have the media blitz of this one tho
Two different artists and two different management. This could come tomorrow like it could come in January.
It's different, not what you expect ??
How is nobody talking about the fact that there are 2 separate Jelly Roll's?
Because it’s old news
I am a little worried they're going for pop/sales. Dre has always cared about sales.
I know but the worlds are colliding right now
It’s coming in December
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBmcn1OuOba/?igsh=MXIwcW15eHFlb202Zg==
Why do I feel like it's a rock-influenced album...
Anyway, you take it. As long as Dre is at the controls, I am with it 8)
Forward Ever Backward Never!!!
Above all, there are also other features on it like Eric Sermon, Method Man, 50 Cent, I think it will be a mixed album with one producer, Dre knows how to get Snoop back into the charts and he also has to deliver very good work, I think that is also the goal
50?
I have hopes after the Marsha album that it will be incredibly well produced. But I am a little concerned from the people saying repeatedly it sounds different, Hed's reaction wasn't great and I just pray to God it doesn't sound like I Need a Doctor.
Full albums produced by Dre do not disappoint so far, so let's see.
Damn seems like Hed didn’t like it lmao
any other reactions out there? just saw hed's, myselfI believe Tray Deee called it an instant classic after listening to it and Big Boys caption was “This album is crazy!”
I didn't get that impression from the interview.
He has been told not to give away any info about the album, but he just said it sounds different, but said 'oh shit' while he was nodding his head giving the impression that he did like it.
One thing is for sure that it will be a totally different sound and will sound nothing like Doggystyle (not that I was expecting it to), but I think people are naturally always going to compare it Doggystyle and will be disappointed in comparison.
I'm going to treat it on it's own merit and hopefully it's music that has longevity.
Doggystyle its good album, nothing mindblow. In my ears. That is that least album that i played. Couple of bangers and that is it. Dogg food is way batter. I think that all snoops album are mediocore at best.
Doggystyle its good album, nothing mindblow. In my ears. That is that least album that i played. Couple of bangers and that is it. Dogg food is way batter. I think that all snoops album are mediocore at best.
Doggystyle its good album, nothing mindblow. In my ears. That is that least album that i played. Couple of bangers and that is it. Dogg food is way batter. I think that all snoops album are mediocore at best.
Doggystyle its good album, nothing mindblow. In my ears. That is that least album that i played. Couple of bangers and that is it. Dogg food is way batter. I think that all snoops album are mediocore at best.
Doggystyle its good album, nothing mindblow. In my ears. That is that least album that i played. Couple of bangers and that is it. Dogg food is way batter. I think that all snoops album are mediocore at best.
Interesting take. We’re you listening to rap when this album dropped ?
Doggystyle its good album, nothing mindblow. In my ears. That is that least album that i played. Couple of bangers and that is it. Dogg food is way batter. I think that all snoops album are mediocore at best.
I have hopes after the Marsha album that it will be incredibly well produced. But I am a little concerned from the people saying repeatedly it sounds different, Hed's reaction wasn't great and I just pray to God it doesn't sound like I Need a Doctor.
Full albums produced by Dre do not disappoint so far, so let's see.
New Death Row Music Snoop Dogg feat. Danny Boy
https://x.com/deathrowmusic/status/1851121617537204423?s=46
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1y_mJWPaiRU?si=5DK25LjBw8ebpUuj
I concur with what's being said in regards to Doggystyle. I personally never liked it but I can acknowledge it as a masterpiece of production.
So now you cats don’t like Doggystyle but you like that trash new eastsidaz album lmao ok I’m done here
lol it’s only one guy who doesn’t like doggystyle
:mjlol:
Yeah Kush is nothing special. If you like it, fine, This is really not what I expected from a new Snoop / Dre combo...
lol it’s only one guy who doesn’t like doggystyle
:mjlol:
but that one french dude who we got on the phone together with infinite and cey cey a couple years ago did say he liked everything on eastsidaz album better than kush by snoop and dre
:dead:
and to go along with that, he also didn’t like rbx album
some of the opinions here are definitely questionable
Yeah Kush is nothing special. If you like it, fine, This is really not what I expected from a new Snoop / Dre combo...
but hey, everyone has their own musical tastes. Are we necessarily wrong if we were disappointed by Hibernation?? I see that you are still angry because I was disappointed with the R.B.X. album, personally my favorite from X is Ripp Tha Game Bloody. Nothing personal. I prefer W.A.W.G and Still Easty to Hibernation. Am I the only one on the forum? Torpor was good.
your musical tastes are also questionable ;)
because this is not the first post you have made on this subject. And yes Ripp Tha Game Bloody had a special connection for me.
Rbx’s files is 2nd for me but I can understand that RBX's files is #1 for most people
Here we go! The beat at the end sounds catchy as fuck!!
The background is only movie soundtrack like the Wash
The background is only movie soundtrack like the Wash
I dunno. It’s the same piano melody as one of the tracks on the Sugakane album but replayed, could be the intro to a song. Dont know the original of the top of my head.
For those who kept tryna shit on people that said this album (along with marsha’s album) would eventually drop
:umad:
could you believe 3 albums (eminem, marsha, snoop) will be released by dr. dre in a year? that never happened in his entire career.
only thing is fucked up is he didnt promote marsha's shit. that was disrespectful.
dem jointz mentioned king thurz, blu2th, cs armstrong, sam sneed, j.lbs, k.a.a.n., fredwreck for the first teaser in his instagram.
i'm excited that sam sneed is involved with the project.
Sam Sneed? That’s completely out of nowhere. When’s the last time he’s produced anything?
G-Unit stuff if I’m not wrong
2019 Sam cut in the studio with Dre and D.O.C they made some beats together
https://www.instagram.com/p/B3cgzXZl5lb/?igsh=dXp2c21rMHFrcnAx
As I wrote a few pages ago Dre has deleted Detox for that he now gives us Missionary, Sam Sneed and Cs Armstrong were at the Detox Sessions now they are on Missionary. Dre remixed the beats
do you know who the fuck is CS armstrong? he keeps bringing his kids to dre and post pictures of them together. is he kind of illegitimate child of dre? he is talented as singer anyway.
Where is everybody saying this project was "Detox" status?
IMO, the most likely outcome is that Missionary turns out like The Wash. People forget that was supposed to be the Snoop & Dre reunion album, but it only ended up having two Dre & Snoop traccs. Missionary will probably be similar. But I hope I'm wrong. I do think it is a real album, at least.
That's basically Soopafly DPGC and maybe Matty, I don't know.
I was the first person on this forum to say Detox was a myth, then everybody started following my lead. Having said that, I always thought Missionary was real. Here is an example:
In hindsight, the first part of this post is embarrassing. I still can't believe Snoop and Dre finally reunited for a full album. I thought that was the myth. But I always knew the album itself was real. It's in a different category from Detox.
According to Focus there will be 2025 CDs pressed with production booklets for those who want a physical copy .. Will be hard to get one .
First song is on the way!!!
Dropping tomorrow!
(https://i.ibb.co/GWVGW7n/Gb-Nl2-NWak-AIRuwp.png)
https://x.com/OnThinlce/status/1851936444857880747
https://music.apple.com/nz/album/missionary/1776700460
Whole tracklist - 15 tracks - Outta Da Blue is there.
Lol, wtf.. hype gone
Not sure if this is real:
Snoop Dogg & Dr. Dre's "Missionary" tracklist
Fore Play (Feat. BJ The Chicago Kid)
Shangri-La
Outta Da Blue (Feat. Alus)
Hard Knocks
Gorgeous (Feat. Jhené Aiko)
Last Dance With Mary Jane (Feat. Tom Petty & Jelly Roll)
Pressure (Feat. KAAN)
Another Part Of Me (Feat. Sting)
Skyscrapers (Feat. Method Man & Smitty)
Fire (Feat. Cocoa Sarai)
Gunz N Smoke (Feat. 50 Cent & Eminem)
Sticcy Situation (Feat. KAAN & Cocoa Sarai)
Now Or Never (Feat. BJ The Chicago Kid)
Gangsta Pose (Feat. Dem Jointz, Stalone & Fat Money)
The Negotiator
First single "Gorgeous" and album pre-save already up in NZ
Mac mall did these condom covers bout a decade ago...
very disappointed that outa da blue is on thereI def agree but am mostly surprised , if it was one of 15 top cuts why was it leaked already on some mediocre release already?! Weird
I def agree but am mostly surprised , if it was one of 15 top cuts why was it leaked already on some mediocre release already?! Weird
Where it was released? Is it on some album already?
Whole tracklist - 15 tracks - Outta Da Blue is there.
Snoop sounds incredible in the mic on Gorgeous (he was great on Outta da blue as well), but this Jhene chorus is too soft- needs some more attitude ala Jewell or Michelle or Val Young. Gorgeous is Mike’s better than Outta da blue but not as good as I hoped.
Whole tracklist - 15 tracks - Outta Da Blue is there.
First single:
https://pillowcase.su/f/11e15ba33e8e4476b3bab7de6e01f1d3
I don’t know about this track list. Just seems off to me.
Wasn’t October London to be on this album? I thought he had confirmed that on the breakfast club.
October London and Eric Sermon are missing, maybe there will be a deluxe edition with the CD release, First Single is Dope, hopefully a video for the single will be added tomorrow
Anyone see the cover/tracklist floatin around that has Dre listed as a feature on THREE songs?
Snoop's cadence on the Gorgeous sample is dope!
Glad Dre has got Snoop sounding his best vocally!!!
It does sound a little pop, but that's not a big deal as Doggystyle had some pop songs (who am I ,what's my name).
I like the song. Production is top notch as to be expected. The muted horns are great. Chorus is fine but certainly does not make the song by any means. It could've easily been something else, and better.
And again, coming in at under 3 minutes, it's just too short. At 30+ years since the last Snoop record produced by Dr. Dre, this project needs a lot more meat on the bone. The only song under 3 minutes on Doggystyle was G Funk Intro. The actual records ranged from 3:31 - 5:38, which is where it should be. There were only three songs in the 3 minute range while the rest averaged in the 4s.
First single:
https://pillowcase.su/f/11e15ba33e8e4476b3bab7de6e01f1d3
If in fact this track list is real, and the cover art is real. Seems like the album is ready to go.
Why wait until December 13th to drop this?
Not Like Us was the first three verse rap song to hit number 1 in 10-15 years I remember reading.
very disappointed that outa da blue is on there
If in fact this track list is real, and the cover art is real. Seems like the album is ready to go.
Why wait until December 13th to drop this?
I like the song. Production is top notch as to be expected. The muted horns are great. Chorus is fine but certainly does not make the song by any means. It could've easily been something else, and better.
And again, coming in at under 3 minutes, it's just too short. At 30+ years since the last Snoop record produced by Dr. Dre, this project needs a lot more meat on the bone. The only song under 3 minutes on Doggystyle was G Funk Intro. The actual records ranged from 3:31 - 5:38, which is where it should be. There were only three songs in the 3 minute range while the rest averaged in the 4s.
If in fact this track list is real, and the cover art is real. Seems like the album is ready to go.
Why wait until December 13th to drop this?
The iron is hot right now. These guys have been doing promo and marketing this album for months now.
LOL
promotion & marketing
I like the song. Production is top notch as to be expected. The muted horns are great. Chorus is fine but certainly does not make the song by any means. It could've easily been something else, and better.What's My Name had 3 8 bar verses. The only thing that made the song long was the bridge and the beat riding out at the end.
And again, coming in at under 3 minutes, it's just too short. At 30+ years since the last Snoop record produced by Dr. Dre, this project needs a lot more meat on the bone. The only song under 3 minutes on Doggystyle was G Funk Intro. The actual records ranged from 3:31 - 5:38, which is where it should be. There were only three songs in the 3 minute range while the rest averaged in the 4s.
The iron is hot right now. These guys have been doing promo and marketing this album for months now.
92 Bricks on Insta shared the back cover on their story.YEESSSS
Dre features on 3 tracks
(https://i.ibb.co/LpY8HVk/thumbnail-IMG-3178.jpg)
92 Bricks on Insta shared the back cover on their story.
Dre features on 3 tracks
(https://i.ibb.co/LpY8HVk/thumbnail-IMG-3178.jpg)
Shit. Outta da Blue made it in the final tracklist. If Dre thinks that song was album worthy, then I'm not confident I'm going to like Missionary.
i definately agree.
also the song "gorgeous" is nothing special at all.
features??? kaan, smitty, coco sarai, bla bla... dissapointing.
seems like dre wanted his crew (ghostwriters, producers, musicians...) to show up with an officlal release and he thought that new snoop album is the best option to do it. just like he did with compton soundtrack to promote some new aftermath producers and artists.
according to the tracklist and features i feel like this album is going to be dissapointing.
i hope i'll be wrong but i don't believe dre can drop something great as long as he keeps his recent crew (dem jointz, blu2th, bla bla...)
When 2001 came out, we didn’t know 40% of the features
we knew %60 of the features and they were exciting. Now we know who they are all already. only sting is promising. rest is k.a.a.n., smitty, coco sarai, jelly roll... we know all of these.
What’s wrong with these features?
How the fuck can you hate on a tracklist
How the fuck can you hate on a tracklist
What if the artwork and tracklist were AI generated?
I'm not too worried. If Gorgeous were on the Compton soundtracc it would have been a top-3 song on there. I guess I just like it more than most of y'all.
I'm not too worried. If Gorgeous were on the Compton soundtracc it would have been a top-3 song on there. I guess I just like Gorgeous more than most of y'all.
I'm not too worried. If Gorgeous were on the Compton soundtracc it would have been a top-3 song on there. I guess I just like Gorgeous more than most of y'all.
Dre talking about it's some of best music ever, well so far that single aint hot and Outta Da Blue is a dud :grumpy:
No one has even bothered qouting any Snoop lyrics from them songs.
Still early days but maybe they should called this album 'Long Beach...a companion to Compton'.
Sounds like a grower , the chorus is what most are complaining about
I love the chorus. The tonality during it is gorgeous. My only issue with the song is that it's only two minutes long, basically. Way too short for a lead single from one of the most anticipated hip hop albums in recent memory..
Gorgeous is easily better than anything from Compton imo.
I think the typical dre fan isn't a huge fan of Compton, so it isn't really good to compare to Compton.
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It might not be a lead single
for those that say they like Gorgeous but wish it was longer...I get it, I get it. I've said that about songs before, but...
Quality over Quantity. Would you rather have a song that is longer but not as good? Not me.
Like someone else said, Next Episode isn't that long of a song.
Snoop Dogg & Dr. Dre Tap Eminem, 50 Cent & More For 'Missionary' Tracklist
Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre‘s upcoming album Missionary wil boast appearances from Eminem, 50 Cent and a host other big names.
The tracklist for the eagerly anticipated project surfaced on Thursday (October 31) via its pre-release listing on Apple Music.
It’s revealed that Missionary clocks in at 15 songs and features guest spots from longtime collaborators Em and 50, as well as Method Man, Jelly Roll, Sting, Tom Petty, Jhené Aiko and BJ The Chicago Kid.
The diverse supporting cast also includes lesser-known names such as DMV lyricist K.A.A.N., Chicago rapper/songwriter Fat Money (who contributed to Kanye West‘s Donda 2 and Vultures 1) and singer Cocoa Sarai.
Eminem and 50 Cent feature on a song called “Gunz N Smoke,” marking the first time that Snoop, Dre, Em and 50 have collaborated on the same track, while Jelly Roll and Tom Petty guest on “Last Dance with Mary Jane,” an intriguing title for a prolific weed smoker like Snoop.
Jhené Aiko lends her sultry voice to “Gorgeous,” which will be released on Friday (November 1) as the lead single. The album itself arrives on December 13 via Death Row, Aftermath and Interscope.
In addition to the tracklist, the cover art for Missionary has also been revealed and depicts a black and gold condom wrapper that promises “aural pleasure.”
Check out the artwork and tracklist below.
Snoop Dogg & Dr. Dre — Missionary (Tracklist):
1. Fore Play (feat. BJ The Chicago Kid)
2. Shangri-La
3. Outta Da Blue (feat. Dr. Dre & Alus)
4. Hard Knocks
5. Gorgeous (feat. Jhené Aiko)
6. Last Dance With Mary Jane (feat. Tom Petty & Jelly Roll)
7. Pressure (feat. Dr. Dre & K.A.A.N.)
8. Another Part Of Me (feat. Sting)
9. Skyscrapers (feat. Method Man & Smitty)
10. Fire (feat. Cocoa Sarai)
11. Gunz N Smoke (feat. 50 Cent & Eminem)
12. Sticcy Situation (feat. K.A.A.N. & Cocoa Sarai)
13. Now Or Never (feat. Dr. Dre & BJ The Chicago Kid)
14. Gangsta Pose (feat. Dem Jointz, Stalone & Fat Money)
15. The Negotiator
Serving as the belated 30th anniversary sequel to Snoop Dogg’s 1993 album Doggystyle, Missionary is produced entirely by Dr. Dre and marks the pair’s first full-length collaboration since Snoop’s aforementioned debut.
The release date was announced earlier this week, accompanied by a hilarious trailer in which two Mormons knock on the door of a woman’s house, only to get the shock of their lives when she answers the door wearing sexy lingerie.
“What the fuck? Your ad said you were dedicated to missionary work!” she barks, clearly expecting something different to religious enlightenment.
Snoop and Dre have both set the bar high for Missionary, with Tha Doggfather calling it “masterful” in an interview earlier this year.
“When you hear what we have and how he got me rapping, it’s like a grown Snoop Dogg,” he said on former NBA players Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson’s All the Smoke podcast.
“It’s the way he selects his bars, it’s the way he uses his voice. [Dr. Dre] uses me like a fucking robot and I love it because I love to be produced. I love to be challenged.”
Dre echoed this sentiment in a chat with Entertainment Tonight in August, putting Missionary up there with some of his best work.
“This one’s gonna show a different level of maturity with [Snoop’s] lyrics and with my music. I feel like this is some of the best music I’ve done in my career,” he declared. “I’m not playing.
“The musicians I’m working with right now and some of the writers in the studio that are helping us… Snoop is really excited about this and so am I. I think people are gonna really enjoy this.”
Snoop Dogg has also teased a 2025 tour in support of Missionary, although nothing has been confirmed as of writing.
[Chorus: Jhené Aiko]
I feel so fuckin' gorgeous
Don't this shit look gorgeous?
Into the sky, stars in your eyes
This person full of love (Yeah, baby, come on)
We can be anything, this is everything
We do the hardest things, six in the morning
Yeah, bitch, this' the feeling
[Verse 1: Snoop Dogg]
Last time I checked
I was the plug to your plug, I'm the fuckin' connect
What you expect? Negotiate, never settle for less
I never lose, always winnin' when I shuffle a deck
Droppin' these jewels, where I'm from you better treasure your checks
You know the rules, plus one, she always come with a guess
She in the pool, best believe, I plan on makin' her wet
Give her the blues, back up in this bitch and get in my raps
Show you how to do it properly when you on my property
I'm a hot commodity, boy, walk Monopoly
A nigga safe, ran out of space, I'm a odyssey
Honestly, I'm that motherfucker that you gotta see
[Chorus: Jhené Aiko]
I feel so fuckin' gorgeous
Don't this shit look gorgeous?
Into the sky, stars in your eyes
This person full of love (Yeah, baby, come on)
We can be anything, this is everything
We do the hardest things, six in the morning
Yeah, bitch, this' the feeling
[Verse 2: Snoop Dogg]
Now, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
Now, that's a lot of ass in the passenger seat
Droppin' low, low, low, low
Yeah, about to hit a switch in this bitch
Watch the six-fold roll
I deal with the cons and the pros
I mix crip shit with the highs and the lows
Picture this bitch for drawing the bankroll
It's just some dog food for the soulless
Criminal psychology, this shit just a part of me
Industrial robbery, a product of '93, yeah
Follow me, follow me, I'm where the dollars be
My stock up, nigga, no return on this policy
[Chorus: Jhené Aiko]
I feel so fuckin' gorgeous
Don't this shit look gorgeous?
Into the sky, stars in your eyes
This person full of love (Yeah, baby, come on)
We can be anything, this is everything
We do the hardest things, six in the morning
Yeah, bitch, this' the feeling
If Gorgeous were on the Compton soundtracc it would have been a top-3 song on there.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbOZXPCW4AALeGN.png)
This cover basically destroyed 80% of my anticipation for the album.
The "Doggystyle" cover was iconic, this one seems way too lazy and "on the nose".
Preferred
a cartoon like Doggystyle tbh.
Joe Cool died
This cover basically destroyed 80% of my anticipation for the album.
Who the fuck wants to look at a rubber packet on a cover.
They were better of putting a really hot chick on it, in a missionary position with her legs spread.
Leave the past in the past!
It's not a matter of the past, bro. The position that I posed is only my opinion that this cover is ridiculous. Regardless of whether I'm comparing it to Dogyystyle or any other Snoop album before this.
Leave the past in the past!
You like that cock-related cover?
It’s nothing special to me, I still don’t think it’s official
The cover fits the theme and is pretty funny. Why is everyone so worked up over it? I’m far more concerned about the terrible production and chorus on Outta Da Blue?
The cover fits the theme and is pretty funny. Why is everyone so worked up over it? I’m far more concerned about the terrible production and chorus on Outta Da Blue?
It’s nothing special to me, I still don’t think it’s official
I’m far more concerned about the terrible production and chorus on Outta Da Blue?
The cover fits the theme and is pretty funny.
You dont think the cover is real, that the tracklist might be AI, that 'Gorgeous' aint the single (and we should get of the past everytime we comment on this album).
Well all that's real so far.
No I do think it’s all real, especially the single. But I wouldnt be surprise if the cover gets changed. It happens all the time
No I do think it’s all real, especially the single.
But I wouldnt be surprise if the cover gets changed. It happens all the time
It's not what you were implying earlier, but fine you believe it now.
What makes you think they would change the cover when it's plastered everywhere and no...hip-hop album covers do not get changed all the time. Once it's out, that's it.
I never said the somg wasn't real.
.
It might not be a lead single
Oh yeah,I still think another song will be released
No one said anything about the song being fake, it was about it you saying this amongst other things-
This guy seems like he doesn't understand things, or he's acting crazy.
I beg your pardon?
I beg your pardon?
I did not mean to press on him, maybe he's being an idiot or is one.
But if that's the level of discussion we are going to be having on 'Missionary' fuckin hell.
Cover and tracklist is real, Snoop and Fredwreck have now officially posted it in their storyline in IG.
Yep, I think it really is and still wants to be ironic. but let's leave it there and continue discussing the album.
Otherwise it will be like Cube's new album thread with Safe+Sound flooding nonsense things with Sccit. :tupac:
When some is fuckin up a thread just delete thier shit, out of all the forums i been on this one seems to attract the most spastics.
When some is fuckin up a thread just delete thier shit, out of all the forums i been on this one seems to attract the most spastics.
nothing hercy buggz said is off topic or remotely deletable
you may disagree with his sentiment, but we allow free speech here homie
nothing hercy buggz said is off topic or remotely deletable
you may disagree with his sentiment, but we allow free speech here homie
I was on about the Cube thread which is fucked, only matter of time someone fucks this one up too.
If you allow free speech let Safe+Sound keep wrecking that thread.
https://pillowcase.su/f/11e15ba33e8e4476b3bab7de6e01f1d3
What did everyone think of this by the way?
https://pillowcase.su/f/11e15ba33e8e4476b3bab7de6e01f1d3
What did everyone think of this by the way?
https://pillowcase.su/f/11e15ba33e8e4476b3bab7de6e01f1d3
What did everyone think of this by the way?
Extremely let down, we always said if Dre would oversee a full Snoop album, that's all we waited for.... 30 years and get this first single.
Just got done jammin just dippin', buck em', the wash, imagine. And this is Dr Dre equivalent to Michael Jackson Thriller???
Just goes to show, in my opinion all the shitty albums Snoop put out, were based on his lack of respect for his fans. Just my opinion
I was on about the Cube thread which is fucked, only matter of time someone fucks this one up too.
If you allow free speech let Safe+Sound keep wrecking that thread.
Yew spammin aint free speech.
When a thread has been spammed/trolled can those posts be deleted as they are clutter and not needed.
No one feels like posting in a ruined thread.
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I wonder which album is gonna be superior, Cube's or Snoop's.
as of now, xzibit’s might be better than both snoops and cubes by the looks of it lol
Wow, video worse then the song.
They dont even star in it!
Where the bitches and hos @ too?
lol that’s just a lyric video bro
How that passed quality check is unbelievable, Dre need to replace his head-phones.
Not a fan of the album cover, looks weird, and single is ok but not great. I’m more looking forward to ice cubes album
Both!!!
And xzibit. And nas/premier. And clipse.
Man, this is a good year!
What’s happened to Dr Dre, this single is mixed bad it distorts at high volume, it’s mixed way to loud. Also the chorus is boring. Also to add the YouTube version is fine it’s the Apple Music one that’s to loud and distorts
The sound quality on streaming is amazing compared to the website leak I heard yesterday.
Props to Dre and Snoop for releasing some music. I’m here for it and appreciate this type of sound.
Doggystyle will forever be in my top 5 albums OAT, but I’m 41 years old now. I’m not looking for another Doggystyle. I like this vibe and updated sound.
The sound quality on streaming is amazing compared to the website leak I heard yesterday.No Apple Music with AirPods Pro 2 and my car stereo with has insane sound, it sounds loud and distorted on the chorus
Props to Dre and Snoop for releasing some music. I’m here for it and appreciate this type of sound.
Doggystyle will forever be in my top 5 albums OAT, but I’m 41 years old now. I’m not looking for another Doggystyle. I like this vibe and updated sound.
Beat sounds like some 12 years old kid made his first beat and he is proud of it. Garbage.
cds and vinyls are up to pre-order.
Where can I pre-order them?
Just listened to 'Gorgeous' and loved it.
That beat is infectious and glad Dre has finally returned to the funk which compliments Snoops style so well, (he's rappin his ass off btw) SOLID track.
Jhené Aiko did what she was supposed to do... catchy, melodic and 1000x better than that Outta da Blue hook.
Haha...that's how wack 'Compton' was for Dre's standards.
Can’t stop listening to it, I like the extras added to the beat from the 2nd verse till the end…..I’m already over the initial doubt of Jhené Aiko chorus.
The production sounds like a mix between Satisfaction and The Wash (that might be me).
I’m enjoying it, are we going to get a video for it?
It took me a minute to locate it as well. Posting the link here for anyone interested. The prices seem fair - https://interscope.com/collections/snoop-dogg-missionary?srsltid=AfmBOorKZkfqD-RJBP7gOrpoLYu4AzLGzePwkcmNQc31VB7PeUBCma7u
I have hopes the album is good especially with Dre producing it. I'm not a fan of the Outta Da Blue track. Gorgeous is on streaming platforms nows and it's just ok to me. Seems too short. With as much time as they have in this album I really hope it is solid overall. I'm not quite sure yet on what to think lol.
It took me a minute to locate it as well. Posting the link here for anyone interested. The prices seem fair - https://interscope.com/collections/snoop-dogg-missionary?srsltid=AfmBOorKZkfqD-RJBP7gOrpoLYu4AzLGzePwkcmNQc31VB7PeUBCma7u
I have hopes the album is good especially with Dre producing it. I'm not a fan of the Outta Da Blue track. Gorgeous is on streaming platforms nows and it's just ok to me. Seems too short. With as much time as they have in this album I really hope it is solid overall. I'm not quite sure yet on what to think lol.
cds and vinyls are up to pre-order.
I’m enjoying it, are we going to get a video for it?
Wednesday, Snoop's Death Row Records revealed the album would be dropping on December 13 in a TV spot ... directly spoofing "South Park" creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone's early career comedy "Orgazmo"!!!
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damn am I the only one here who liked Compton?
I'm 47 and completely agree with you, it sounded more adult, I heard Doggystyle at 16 when it came out, it was also a different time, today the album would no longer have the success of that time, the generation is different
This is true. Sex in culture has been diminished. There's no more sex and nudity in movies. Young people don't have sex as much as they used to. When they do have sex, it's mostly blowjobs and missionary. Not much Doggystyle.
I wouldn’t call it a classic, but I definitely enjoyed most of it. I don’t go into any new Dre material thinking he’s going to resurrect the G Funk sound from the early 90s. Those just aren’t my expectations for Dre anymore. The people that hate on it would probably call it a classic if it was released by anyone other than Dr. Dre.
no .. compton was classic
and if you check the discussion thread, most the cats here loved it in real time
no .. compton was classic
and if you check the discussion thread, most the cats here loved it in real time
Most likely they got a drink to promote too, expect a lot of visuals from this album.
The Gin Juice/Gorgeous advert they did was inspired by the South Park Creators movie 'Orgazmo' -
(https://imagez.tmz.com/image/36/4by3/2024/10/31/3638f0c138814ff8bfa803c9fa605265_md.jpg)
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Nah, that was no classic homie, cannot put that next to The Chronics.
I envy everyone that likes that album, because when i pull out a Dre record to play it's never that.
No replayability, damn i tried.
A shame because that his only new full solo in recent years.
the problem is that you expected the chronic
Actually we were still expecting 'Detox' and yes at the level of 'The Chronic', that's the standard we hold the best hip-hop producer of all time.
Dre failed on that one and he knows it.
to keep it a buck, none of the detox leaks (save for kush and topless) were on the level of compton
to keep it a buck, none of the detox leaks (save for kush and topless) were on the level of compton
to keep it a buck, none of the detox leaks (save for kush and topless) were on the level of compton
Actually we were still expecting 'Detox' and yes at the level of 'The Chronic', that's the standard we hold the best hip-hop producer of all time.
Dre failed on that one and he knows it.
True, only mostly from what we heard leaked though.
Who knows what else he had in the vault, but clearly not up to his level or he would of put the shit out.
Dre did not even release a single from Compton, that was weird.
Instead of Compton, i wish we had a got proper soundtrack for the N.W.A movie compiled by Cube with fresh cuts like he did with the Friday movie.
Yeah, no way you can call Compton a classic, and I'm sure Dre would agree. In fact, I don't think Dre would be working on this Missionary album had Compton been a classic. Dre has a GIANT ego and he wants to go out on top. I think he has to go out on top. No way he could go out with Compton as his last album.
this assumption doesn’t make sense, as missionary is not a dre album
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While it may not be billed as a Dre album, it seems he put just as much time or more into this album than he did with Compton, and is doing FAR more to promote it.
, as missionary is not a dre album
talking to my diary was a single
but he didn’t have a video tho, which definitely was strange
this assumption doesn’t make sense, as missionary is not a dre album
damn am I the only one here who liked Compton?I love that Compton album. That's usually the first album I listen to when I get a new pair of headphones to judge the sound.
I didn't expect Dre in 2015 to sound like he did in '92 or '99
if you went into that album thinking he would I understand how you would be disappointed but I thought it was a dope album
talking to my diary was a single
but he didn’t have a video tho, which definitely was strange
Yes it is. It is a full executive produced album by Dre. Has Dre done this much promoting for anything in the past 20+ years? Nope. He never promoted any of his artists like this (Eminem, 50 cent). He barely even promoted Compton after it came out. He has been promoting Missionary like crazy.
You are crazy if you don't think this is a Dre album. If this weren't a Dre album, then it would have dropped a long time ago as that is snoops way of doing things. It isn't a Dre album as literally this is a Dr. Dre album, but this is very much a Dr. Dre project.
Dre produced a few tracks on Eminem's latest album, but I wouldn't even come close to calling that a Dr. Dre project. Dre is in complete control over Missionary.
Do ya think Snoop be writing his own lyrics on this,
no
Why the fuck is Dogg Pound not on it? I would love Daz Snoop and Kurupt on a dre production
Straight Outta Compton, Efil4Zaggin, No One Can Do It Better etc...and this one...not in name but all Dre records.
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On the rap side of things -
Do ya think Snoop be writing his own lyrics on this, did the single feel that way?
If not, who's the likely ghosts?
any word on D.O.C's involvement in this?
Track was written by Dr. Dre, The-Dream, Perky-B, Coco Austin, K.A.A.N., Erik "Bluetooth" Griggs, FredWreck, Preach Bal4 & Snoop Dogg. No The D.O.C. credits on this one.
yea but dre’s personal catalogue is still
the chronic
2001
compton
so even after releasing marsha and snoop this year, he will still be going out on compton .. unless he drops another solo
We know Dre aint writing the lyrics, maybe the first line or two to start the song like he used to do.
If it takes that many writers, then they doing that puzzle/game thing that Eric Sermon was on about.
Green eyed bandit has a track on this, wonder if it made it and which one it is.
Wanted to hear some original Snoopy slang like on the early Death-Row records - Biyatch!
I hope there's some storytelling songs on this, or at least a Watcher type song from Snoop's point of view...west-coast gangsta rappers used to be masters @ it.
producers get writing credits too
producers get writing credits too
Nothing? He's just gonna be a tool for Dre and his team on this.
Dre said he wants to pull out one more solo recored before he retires, fingers crossed.Oh for real? When did he say that?
Oh for real? When did he say that?
Both!!!
And xzibit. And nas/premier. And clipse.
Man, this is a good year!
In one of the interviews from this year.That's cool to hear.
What's the big deal?
Not really a big deal if they take the 'Boyz-N-Hood' Eazy route, that turned out classic.
But Snoop wrote most of the shit on The Chronic/Doggystyle, and most of his own stuff during his prime.
I would prefer one of the best west-coast rappers of all time to be spittin shit from his own mind and soul on his own album (Especially on this, Dre's talent on the music, Snoop's on the lyrics).
If he's still capable of it, do it.
Elite rappers used to be proud of rappin they own shit.
Knock it out better then any new Aftermath writers could do for him.
We are just speculating at this point anyway.
DOC wrote a lot for snoop during early Death Row days
Yep, he coached him on writing/rappin on The Chronic, by Doggystyle Snoopy was in full swing by himself.
I’ve played this one about 20x, as it’s infectious.
Yep, he coached him on writing/rappin on The Chronic, by Doggystyle Snoopy was in full swing by himself.
he had help on doggystyle as well
Marco will have the instrumental soon ;)
I already have it, I'll upload it now for y'all. lol
to keep it a buck, none of the detox leaks (save for kush and topless) were on the level of comptonEven Kush? The classic for this forum? ;D
Tha Doggfather album had other writers as well.
Even Kush? The classic for this forum? ;D
Im joking. I don t like much of the detox leaks...
Don't forget Busta Rhymes' new album.
Even Kush? The classic for this forum? ;DBest Detox leaks were the T.I. ones
Im joking. I don t like much of the detox leaks...
Don't forget Busta Rhymes' new album.
80s sounding
Snoop Dogg - (Gorgeous) (Instrumental) (By Marco for DubCNN).wav
That's what i thought, is there a sample to this or is it original?
Maybe it's just the style of the beat/bass that sounds 80s to us.
Am I trippin’, or does anyone else hear the Jermaine Dupri sample in the chorus “ya baby, c’mon”?
What's the big deal? Bush was basically a Pharrell album as far as who had artistic control. Missionary is a Dre album as far as who has artistic control.
Weren't Snoop and Dre at odds over how many songs to include? Looks as if Dre won out. IIRC, Dre wanted 15 traccs.
If he did it would be his in-house Death-Row homies and from elite MCs of the time like Kurupt, RBX, Rage etc...on the same page as himself but we also know Snoop wrote classics by himself too, that's undisputed.
I thought the same thing!LOL! You think they actually sampled him? Super random but oddly fits
LOL! You think they actually sampled him? Super random but oddly fits
One of the best Snoop's Dogg song in my opinion is on Dupri's Soundtrack (Life in 1472), "Protectors of 1472" produced by Preemo.That track is a classic for sure. The track they did on the MIB soundtrack is also very dope.
Nope, Dre wanted 13 tracks and Snoop wanted 16 tracks.
Guess they settled for 15.
any word on D.O.C's involvement in this?
Yes, I know!!! There's are other cartoonists who could do the art.
I did 2 artwork concepts for the album a few months ago… on my instagram page & paying homage to the OG Joe Cool cover.
Also on my site at djageproductions.com
Gorgeous sounds great, i like the beat and the hook, but i think that Snoop’s verses feel a bit unnatural.
With Dre's habit of making Snoop repeat lines to perfect every word, it feels like the verses were recorded in separate parts and pieced together, which disrupts the flow and makes it sound disjointed. I know that recording verses in separate parts always been a thing, but here it feels too noticeable
Overall, I like the track but i hope that the rest of the album is better.
He sounded like a lost puppy on that one.
Gorgeous sounds great, i like the beat and the hook, but i think that Snoop’s verses feel a bit unnatural.
With Dre's habit of making Snoop repeat lines to perfect every word, it feels like the verses were recorded in separate parts and pieced together, which disrupts the flow and makes it sound disjointed. I know that recording verses in separate parts always been a thing, but here it feels too noticeable
Overall, I like the track but i hope that the rest of the album is better.
I felt like that when i heard the album for the first time. Whispering flow, no convidence. Like he was on drugs. A few years later i saw the godfather movie. Vito Corleone is whispering as well. Started listening to the album again and realised freestyle conversation was one of the sickest flow/beat combos ever. After that the dj pooh tracks doggyland, 2001 became the future funk blueprint to me. Very creative one of a kind album.
One of the best Snoop Dogg song in my opinion is on Dupri's Soundtrack (Life in 1472), "Protectors of 1472" produced by Preemo.
Great concept of art. Preferred the second one. Congrats to you, and R.I.P. Joe Cool.
DOC wrote a lot for snoop during early Death Row days
DOC didn’t write a thing any where for any one he was barely sober during that time … he coached snoop and helped turn his freestyles into songs and helped his writing structure if any thing Snoop pushed DOC to get on songs with his voice with serial kills and $20 sack pyramid
RBX and Snoop did most of The Chronic and if you didn’t know Niggaz Don’t Give a Fuck was a Snoop song then It became a Dogg Pound song
Kurupt admits to Snoop even helping him structure his songs and make them in to verses instead of murdering MCs like DOC did with snoop
Ho Hopper Deez Nuutz were 213 songs that Dre recorded no DOC same thing with G Thang except DOC told him to repeat it’s like this that and this and uhh so yeah DOC wrote that
It’s been in magazines, books and stuff for years … Doc wasn’t sober during the 2 years he was around Death Row … he admitted it and left to Atlanta cuz of his drug binging .. wasn’t writing much JFlexx was writing for Dre
More than any one before the split
probably the most underrated dope track that Snoop has ever done
https://variety.com/2024/music/news/snoop-dogg-tom-petty-eminem-50-cent-planet-of-the-apes-movie-1236198269/
Am I trippin’, or does anyone else hear the Jermaine Dupri sample in the chorus “ya baby, c’mon”?
https://variety.com/2024/music/news/snoop-dogg-tom-petty-eminem-50-cent-planet-of-the-apes-movie-1236198269/
DOC didn’t write a thing any where for any one he was barely sober during that time … he coached snoop and helped turn his freestyles into songs and helped his writing structure if any thing Snoop pushed DOC to get on songs with his voice with serial kills and $20 sack pyramid
RBX and Snoop did most of The Chronic and if you didn’t know Niggaz Don’t Give a Fuck was a Snoop song then It became a Dogg Pound song
Kurupt admits to Snoop even helping him structure his songs and make them in to verses instead of murdering MCs like DOC did with snoop
Ho Hopper Deez Nuutz were 213 songs that Dre recorded no DOC same thing with G Thang except DOC told him to repeat it’s like this that and this and uhh so yeah DOC wrote that
It’s been in magazines, books and stuff for years … Doc wasn’t sober during the 2 years he was around Death Row … he admitted it and left to Atlanta cuz of his drug binging .. wasn’t writing much JFlexx was writing for Dre
More than any one before the split
Check DOC’sTwitter; he himself says he wrote A Nigga Wit a Gun
I heard it! Was thinking it sounded like Mase but you are right
Not worse than the og...8)
DOC didn’t write a thing any where for any one he was barely sober during that time … he coached snoop and helped turn his freestyles into songs and helped his writing structure if any thing Snoop pushed DOC to get on songs with his voice with serial kills and $20 sack pyramid
RBX and Snoop did most of The Chronic and if you didn’t know Niggaz Don’t Give a Fuck was a Snoop song then It became a Dogg Pound song
Kurupt admits to Snoop even helping him structure his songs and make them in to verses instead of murdering MCs like DOC did with snoop
Ho Hopper Deez Nuutz were 213 songs that Dre recorded no DOC same thing with G Thang except DOC told him to repeat it’s like this that and this and uhh so yeah DOC wrote that
It’s been in magazines, books and stuff for years … Doc wasn’t sober during the 2 years he was around Death Row … he admitted it and left to Atlanta cuz of his drug binging .. wasn’t writing much JFlexx was writing for Dre
More than any one before the split
also, "Ho Hopper" was Att Will's song first.
DOC didn’t write a thing any where for any one he was barely sober during that time … he coached snoop and helped turn his freestyles into songs and helped his writing structure if any thing Snoop pushed DOC to get on songs with his voice with serial kills and $20 sack pyramid
RBX and Snoop did most of The Chronic and if you didn’t know Niggaz Don’t Give a Fuck was a Snoop song then It became a Dogg Pound song
Kurupt admits to Snoop even helping him structure his songs and make them in to verses instead of murdering MCs like DOC did with snoop
Ho Hopper Deez Nuutz were 213 songs that Dre recorded no DOC same thing with G Thang except DOC told him to repeat it’s like this that and this and uhh so yeah DOC wrote that
It’s been in magazines, books and stuff for years … Doc wasn’t sober during the 2 years he was around Death Row … he admitted it and left to Atlanta cuz of his drug binging .. wasn’t writing much JFlexx was writing for Dre
More than any one before the split
gorgeous streaming numbers suck!
this is a big dissapointment. crap the "it grows on me" bulshit fellas.
gorgeous streaming numbers suck!
this is a big dissapointment. crap the "it grows on me" bulshit fellas.
As someone who insisted the album wasn't coming, something tells me you were never going to like anything that did come out anyway to be fair
The guy is dissatisfied with his life, he has to talk bad about everything and negative
gorgeous streaming numbers suck!
this is a big dissapointment. crap the "it grows on me" bulshit fellas.
I actually am really enjoying the song; despite the punched in vocals, Snoop sounds great and the production is top notch. And yes, the chorus HAS grown on me. Remember, before the internet/streaming age, when we used to let shit marinated for a bit before coming to conclusions? Still, I don’t think this will be a massive hit or anything.
What are the streaming and chart numbers for Gorgeous so far?
Sam Sneed on 3 tracks too, should be interesting.
Biggie sample on the track with Em/50.
So Sam Sneed has writing credits on three of the tracks Dre “solo” produced ??
DOC didn’t write a thing any where for any one he was barely sober during that time … he coached snoop and helped turn his freestyles into songs and helped his writing structure if any thing Snoop pushed DOC to get on songs with his voice with serial kills and $20 sack pyramid
RBX and Snoop did most of The Chronic and if you didn’t know Niggaz Don’t Give a Fuck was a Snoop song then It became a Dogg Pound song
Kurupt admits to Snoop even helping him structure his songs and make them in to verses instead of murdering MCs like DOC did with snoop
Ho Hopper Deez Nuutz were 213 songs that Dre recorded no DOC same thing with G Thang except DOC told him to repeat it’s like this that and this and uhh so yeah DOC wrote that
It’s been in magazines, books and stuff for years … Doc wasn’t sober during the 2 years he was around Death Row … he admitted it and left to Atlanta cuz of his drug binging .. wasn’t writing much JFlexx was writing for Dre
More than any one before the split
Check DOC’sTwitter; he himself says he wrote A Nigga Wit a Gun
Sam Sneed on 3 tracks too, should be interesting.
Biggie sample on the track with Em/50.
* shout out to (the real) JellyRoll for 4 bangers in a row from Mount Westmore, RBX & Ras Kass, DPG and Eastsidaz
Where does the info come from?
chad kiser
Sam Sneed on 3 tracks too, should be interesting.
Biggie sample on the track with Em/50.
length of each song, 43:32 in total:
Fore Play (1:15)
with BJ the Chicago Kid
Shangri-La (1:37)
Outta da Blue (2:39)
with Dr. Dre and Alus
Hard Knocks (4:13)
Gorgeous (2:56)
with Jhené Aiko
Last Dance with Mary Jane (3:05)
with Tom Petty and Jelly Roll
Pressure (2:22)
with Dr. Dre and K.A.A.N.
Another Part of Me (3:26)
with Sting
Skyscrapers (3:00)
with Method Man and Smitty
Fire (3:42)
with Cocoa Sarai
Gunz N Smoke (3:33)
with 50 Cent and Eminem
Sticcy Situation (3:08)
with K.A.A.N. and Cocoa Sarai
Now or Never (3:18)
with Dr. Dre and BJ the Chicago Kid
Gangsta Pose (2:56)
with Dem Jointz, Stalone en Fat Money
The Negotiator (2:22)
Last Dance with Mary Jane (3:05)
with Tom Petty and Jelly Roll
gorgeous streaming numbers suck!What? 300k ain't bad
this is a big dissapointment. crap the "it grows on me" bulshit fellas.
personally, I don't listen to anything before the album comes out. I've been waiting for this album for so long... Can't wait for December 13th to discover the album
So Sam Sneed has writing credits on three of the tracks Dre “solo” produced ??
So, 2024. Now.
Rbx>>>>eastsidaz>dogg pound.
Waitin for Snoop to this!
So, 2024. Now.
Rbx>>>>eastsidaz>dogg pound.
Waitin for Snoop to this!
15. The Negotiator
(Andre Young, V Smith, B. Perry, T Myrie, S. Anderson, J. Turnbull, L. Aekah Bouhairie, C. Marshall, R. Holmes & D. Abernathy Jr.)
Produced By Dr. Dre
we actually took time with ours … both eastsidaz and dogg pound whipped up a quick album with no attention to detail on the production side of things. real heads such as yaself will notice that immediately and appreciate the nuance that went in to it.
:salute:
I would rate backwards.
So, 2024. Now.
Rbx>>>>eastsidaz>dogg pound.
Waitin for Snoop to this!
he wrote a lot on the chronic.. and more than RBX. i can tell you that from first hand accounts…. not sure where dude getting all that from LOL
Maybe because of Snoop buying Death row; Dre and Snoop can use the old Sam sneed tracks/beats with his cooperation. Sticky situation is an old J flexx Sam sneed track.
One thing i've noticed on the 2 released Missionary tracks, is that there are no melodic basslines!
A good bassline can add an extra layer of sound to make it sound a little more 'warmer'
personally, I don't listen to anything before the album comes out. I've been waiting for this album for so long... Can't wait for December 13th to discover the album
That was a huge part of the “g funk” sound. They had live bass players. Dre thinks that sound is dated
Discover deeeeeez nutttzz in ya mouth French boy
they aren't complete, i imagine more 'co-producers' will be confirmed in the full credits. eg we know the track with 50/Em is produced with C.S. Armstrong
https://x.com/Southpawer/status/1852650785949061293
We've all complained how Snoop's albums are too long, have too much filler etc.
I'd rather a short sharp album that wants you wanting more, than dragging it out.
unfortunately under 3 minute tracks are the wave right now
I wish we would go back to the standard 3 verse songs with 16s
I disagree. When we complain that Snoop's albums are too long, we are talking about them having too many songs, not that the songs themselves are too long. The tracklist doesn't solve the problem. Missionary has enough songs. The problem is that the songs are too short.
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I hear you, but how long where the tracks on Regulate... G-Funk Era?
With the exception of a few tracks, i'm sure they were around the 3-3:30 min length.
Like I said, i'd rather have a shorter concise album that's on point, than tracks that are dragged out for too long.
I'm very interested on what the other tracks will sound like.
One thing is for sure, Snoop's cadence sounds the best i've heard him in a long time with the 2 released tracks!
Discover deeeeeez nutttzz in ya mouth French boyI'm not going to tell you the same thing about R.B.X. since you've already been sucking them for a long time. You and Sccit worked on the project. I understand your attachment but guys, stop, listening to you we haven't done better since All Eyez On Me ;D... make a forum of your cds and kiss your ass among yourselves... 8)
I'm not going to tell you the same thing about R.B.X. since you've already been sucking them for a long time. You and Sccit worked on the project. I understand your attachment but guys, stop, listening to you we haven't done better since All Eyez On Me ;D... make a forum of your cds and kiss your ass among yourselves... 8)
Bro RBX is not gay but if you really insist I will ask him for you lil fruit cup frenchy
And knowing your hater ass you’d probably hate even if we did put out AEOM
Bro RBX is not gay but if you really insist I will ask him for you lil fruit cup frenchyhell no because I said Torpor was good. But you 2 do not accept criticism (unless it is positive). and no thank you I don't suck anyone's balls ;) on the other hand it was you who started talking about gay shit. So don't say that I insist ;) and how do you know he's not gay? did you really ask him to suck his balls? ;D ;D ;D
And knowing your hater ass you’d probably hate even if we did put out AEOM
hell no because I said Torpor was good. But you 2 do not accept criticism (unless it is positive). and no thank you I don't suck anyone's balls ;) on the other hand it was you who started talking about gay shit. So don't say that I insist ;)
lol it really doesn't look like you and Duck give a damn. But it’s cool, as I’ve already said several times, everyone has their own musical tastes.
bro i don’t give a shit if u don’t like rbx album
i do think some of the stuff u say is funny but its all good homie
hibernation shivers >>>> torpor ….. if u disagree, cool. some people like dick over pussy.. we’re all unique.
:ohwell:
lol it really doesn't look like you and Duck give a damn. But it’s cool, as I’ve already said several times, everyone has their own musical tastes.
8)
go bump kush & chill
:phil:
go bump kush & chill
:phil:
Kush sucks. it sucked. thats what's written in history.
Kush sucks. it sucked. thats what's written in history.
Outta da Blue growing on anyone? I’ve given it a few spins the last few days and the back and forth rapping is impeccable. Shit chorus though so I’m never going to love it. Reminds me of On the Boulevard.
Outta da Blue growing on anyone? I’ve given it a few spins the last few days and the back and forth rapping is impeccable. Shit chorus though so I’m never going to love it. Reminds me of On the Boulevard.
Outta da Blue growing on anyone? I’ve given it a few spins the last few days and the back and forth rapping is impeccable. Shit chorus though so I’m never going to love it. Reminds me of On the Boulevard.
Outta da Blue growing on anyone? I’ve given it a few spins the last few days and the back and forth rapping is impeccable. Shit chorus though so I’m never going to love it. Reminds me of On the Boulevard.
Kush sucks. it sucked. thats what's written in history.
on the blvd is a straight classic
if we get even one track on that level, then i’ll be happy lol
I love the raps, find the production dope but never felt the chorus. Found the Wash to be much better. If we get one Snoop and Dre (vocals) track on THAT level I’ll be happy
what’s better.. kush or the new eastsidaz?
:hmmm:
Anyone know how to make an Outta da blue acapella w/o the vocal sample. It would sound a lot less busy and better with only dre and snoop over the beat. I wouldn’t mind the beat change then.
I love the raps, find the production dope but never felt the chorus. Found the Wash to be much better. If we get one Snoop and Dre (vocals) track on THAT level I’ll be happy
i know it's not Snoop but Bad Intentions over those >>>
That one is a freaking monsterIncredible track and I'm so mad Knoc didn't blow.
what’s better.. kush or the new eastsidaz?
:hmmm:
haven't heard the new Eastsidaz yet, is it even worth a listen?
haven't heard the new Eastsidaz yet, is it even worth a listen?
haven't heard the new Eastsidaz yet, is it even worth a listen?
It's fire!
haven't heard the new Eastsidaz yet, is it even worth a listen?
Sonically Gorgeous is incredible to me. And with Iovine's involvement, I wasn't expecting a street single for our first taste. So we'll see! We got at least a weed song coming (petty and jelly roll) and the 50/eminem joint -
I hope the 50 Cent/Eminem joint as the next single. C.S. Armstrong described it as "The greatest piece of audio you've ever heard". I think it's a good choice for a real street single. Let's see..
😀😀😀😀….this the kind of hype that raise unreasonable expectation in people.
I will try and delete that from my memory 🤣🤣
Incredible track and I'm so mad Knoc didn't blow.
Back in the day, so many unforgettable moments. I remember picking up The Chronic on cassette the day it dropped and going to The Wherehouse for Doggystyle’s midnight release. I lived through Ruthless and Death Row eras. In Los Angeles, we had Westside Radio and Friday Night Flavaz—people would stay up late, recording world premieres off the radio.
I still remember the night Warren G and Nate Dogg premiered “Regulate” on Power 106. Warren even talked about another track he had with Nate called “Gangsta Groove” and accidentally played a snippet on the radio. The night DJ Jam played the OG version of “What Would U Do?” Those were amazing times, and this sound was all so new to us.
I’ve been following this discussion and agree with the disappointment around “Gorgeous.” For me, I expected something groundbreaking from Dre. But, as others have pointed out, since the Scott Storch, Mike Elizondo, and the 2001 crew, Dre hasn’t found a new signature sound. From Straight Outta Compton, N4L, The Chronic, Doggystyle, 2001, to The Documentary, Dre always moved the needle.
Which brings me to Missionary. Everything about this project feels like a letdown so far. “Gorgeous” didn’t live up to the hype. I’ve tried to get into it, but it’s just not what I expected from Dre and Snoop. My friend Chris, who engineers for Snoop, got to hear the full album and sequenced it. He told me, “just wait,” but wouldn’t say more. I’m hoping the rest of the album is better, but I’m not optimistic.
Dre has too many producers involved now. The tracks are incredibly short, and I just don’t have a great feeling about this album. Granted, I’m not expecting a sequel to Doggystyle in terms of sound but this isn’t even close.
It was an incredible ride while it lasted.
Back in the day, so many unforgettable moments. I remember picking up The Chronic on cassette the day it dropped and going to The Wherehouse for Doggystyle’s midnight release. I lived through Ruthless and Death Row eras. In Los Angeles, we had Westside Radio and Friday Night Flavaz—people would stay up late, recording world premieres off the radio.
I still remember the night Warren G and Nate Dogg premiered “Regulate” on Power 106. Warren even talked about another track he had with Nate called “Gangsta Groove” and accidentally played a snippet on the radio. The night DJ Jam played the OG version of “What Would U Do?” Those were amazing times, and this sound was all so new to us.
I’ve been following this discussion and agree with the disappointment around “Gorgeous.” For me, I expected something groundbreaking from Dre. But, as others have pointed out, since the Scott Storch, Mike Elizondo, and the 2001 crew, Dre hasn’t found a new signature sound. From Straight Outta Compton, N4L, The Chronic, Doggystyle, 2001, to The Documentary, Dre always moved the needle.
Which brings me to Missionary. Everything about this project feels like a letdown so far. “Gorgeous” didn’t live up to the hype. I’ve tried to get into it, but it’s just not what I expected from Dre and Snoop. My friend Chris, who engineers for Snoop, got to hear the full album and sequenced it. He told me, “just wait,” but wouldn’t say more. I’m hoping the rest of the album is better, but I’m not optimistic.
Dre has too many producers involved now. The tracks are incredibly short, and I just don’t have a great feeling about this album. Granted, I’m not expecting a sequel to Doggystyle in terms of sound but this isn’t even close.
It was an incredible ride while it lasted.
Bad Intentions was a BANGIN track fo sho
I’ve never heard of this “Gangsta Groove” snippet being played…did it have Nate on it too?
He only played a brief part—just Warren. I still have the tape somewhere, along with him talking about the song.
Warren G also mentioned “Regulate” would be on an upcoming soundtrack, which turned out to be Above the Rim, and later his album. Originally, the G-Funk Era tracks had Snoop on the hook for ‘This DJ’ and Tha Dogg Pound on another track. From what I remember, Suge got involved, and Warren had to remove the songs with DR artists.
Tha Dogg Pound was on G Funk Era? Do you know the song?
I never knew that. They were on What We Go Through on his second album, but never knew they recorded something for his first.
Drink with the Champs interview with Snoop n Dre 11.16.24
https://www.instagram.com/p/DB9hfqwRfmD/?igsh=bTBtbDFxMnptcXl4
Drink with the Champs interview with Snoop n Dre 11.16.24
https://www.instagram.com/p/DB9hfqwRfmD/?igsh=bTBtbDFxMnptcXl4
Tha Dogg Pound was on G Funk Era? Do you know the song?
I never knew that. They were on What We Go Through on his second album, but never knew they recorded something for his first.
He only played a brief part—just Warren. I still have the tape somewhere, along with him talking about the song.
Warren G also mentioned “Regulate” would be on an upcoming soundtrack, which turned out to be Above the Rim, and later his album. Originally, the G-Funk Era tracks had Snoop on the hook for ‘This DJ’ and Tha Dogg Pound on another track. From what I remember, Suge got involved, and Warren had to remove the songs with DR artists.
I remember reading Damion “Damizza” young’s book and his take on Bishop Lamont’s “Grow Up” which was a perfect tracks for Bishop or even a good song for Dre to return with. Never the less the track was and still is amazing.
But Interscope pulled the records out a cease and desist in effect for power 106 not to play it. And the station that helped Dre and his team get rich off the spins of their music got a invite to listen to the final version of “ Grow Up” with Marsha Ambrosia on the hook and Damizza shared his disconnect with the final mix that had lost its hip hop edge and sounded over produced …
Case in point here a great song amazing beats and delivery flow from Snoop, but an over produced song with a busy vocal hook that isn’t being much to the chorus ..
Dre hasn’t been on the scene with young artist and or let alone tried to make music outside of his team of aftermath shit he barely did anything with Kendrick Lamar … while Dre is the GOAT producer it comes at a fault … he wants it all too polished and nothing fun and dirty these days …
Please find that tape and post the snippet. I've never heard anything about this song. Would be great to hear a scrapped G Funk Era track as Warren G unreleased stuff is pretty hard to come by.
are u saying there’s a version of grow up with marsha on the hook?
According to the Damion Young aka Damizza there is and was and he told Dre himself it’s overproduced and didn’t have that feeling that garnered it the radio play it was getting and wasn’t as dope as the first version .. he paints a picture he was Dre’s go to guy for hit singles
Talks about the first version of Still DRE with different lyrics (more braggy Bentley that Jay Z is used to and Dre said he didn’t like it, Dre spoke on it in the Blaze magazine as well)
He even said he heard a version of My Name Is.. with just a hook or no hook, it was the opposite of what Dre and Em and claim they first did together in the studio when they speak on it in interviews…
I hope the 50 Cent/Eminem joint as the next single. C.S. Armstrong described it as "The greatest piece of audio you've ever heard". I think it's a good choice for a real street single. Let's see..
the track 'Hard Knocks' can be heard in the first 15 secs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftXPKt16rRI
Nice to see a lot of FredWreck and Focus on additional protection credits. I trust them fully.
Of course Dem Jointz helped on Outta Da Blue lol
I’m sorry I just can’t get into it he new single. Someone on here was talking about dre over producing these days and I gotta agree. Sonically and structurally great but lacks the soul we’re used to. Just not hitting right
focus was all over the compton.
yeah only name gives me hope is Fredwreck.
Fredwreck solo >>> Fredwreck with the ICU. It's like Dre solo productions.
fredwreck is overrated tbh
his best stuff was his dre imitation beats in the early 2000s
fredwreck is overrated tbh
his best stuff was his dre imitation beats in the early 2000s
Fredwreck is good producer, His work speak for itself.
Just to name a few of my favourites off top:
Crazy (Snoop & Nate)
Fuck with us (Kurupt, Tray Dee & Xzibit)
Gang Bang 4 Real (Eastsidaz)
Ditty Dum Ditty Doo (Nate Dogg)
Onsite (Kurupt)
Space Boogie (Kurupt)
Hardest Muthafucka (Kurupt)
Who ride with us (Dogg Pound)
Nitefalls (Tash)
Represent Dat G.C
Have a nice day (Mount Westmore) with Dem Jointz
Credit where it’s due, he is a good producer, no need to down play it.
And he also produces other genre of music too.
focus was all over the compton.I don't mind Compton and think Focus is a good producer.
yeah only name gives me hope is Fredwreck.
I don't mind Compton and think Focus is a good producer.
What happened to DJ Silk and Chocolate? They were around a lot in the Detox days and I think they produced Talking to my Diary.
I don't mind Compton and think Focus is a good producer.Here's a recent interview Chocolate did if you're interested.
What happened to DJ Silk and Chocolate? They were around a lot in the Detox days and I think they produced Talking to my Diary.
yea.. nobody said he’s not a good producer. but notice most the stuff u listed is exactly what i said was his best work.
u actually only named 1 song that came out in the last 15 years LOL
yea.. nobody said he’s not a good producer. but notice most the stuff u listed is exactly what i said was his best work.
u actually only named 1 song that came out in the last 15 years LOL
fredwreck is overrated tbh
his best stuff was his dre imitation beats in the early 2000s
Fredwreck solo >>> Fredwreck with the ICU. It's like Dre solo productions.
Fredwreck solo >>> Fredwreck with the ICU. It's like Dre solo productions.That's crazy accurate
naaah he has his own flavor. he is one of those producers that you realise its produced by fredwreck when u listen to one of his productions.
yeah he did some dr. dre influeced beats but who didnt in early 2000s????
his very first early mainstream production is Mamacita for Kurupt. definately a banger and different than dre's beats.
Raise Up and Fuck With Us from Bones OST are examples of his unique style.
Let's All Roll by KnocTurnal, From Long Beach 2 Brick City by Snoop, Gangsta Nation by Westside Connection...
i can name more to prove his is not doing dr. dre beats, he does his own thing that inspired other producers.
yea.. nobody said he’s not a good producer. but notice most the stuff u listed is exactly what i said was his best work.
u actually only named 1 song that came out in the last 15 years LOL
Snoop Dogg’s Times Square concert showed the ambitious future of music in Fortnite
Epic Games is trying to make music collaborations a larger part of its always-changing virtual world.
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In front of thousands of fans in Times Square, with most of the sprawling screens displaying his face, Snoop Dogg provided a twist on one of hip-hop’s iconic lines. “It ain’t nothin’ but a gangsta party,” he chanted. “It ain’t nothin’ but a Fortnite gangsta party.” The moment was part of a concert that also featured Ice Spice, all performed live in New York while being broadcast as an in-game event for anyone logged in to the game. The battle royale has had plenty of concerts and events in recent years, but the Snoop collaboration is part of a plan to more deeply integrate music into the budding metaverse.
“This is a partnership,” Snoop said during an interview after the show. “Most games just want one song and you don’t even see the artist. So for them to let us be a part of the game, and that community, it’s deep.”
In the past, Fortnite’s big musical moments have largely been singular virtual concerts from the likes of Ariana Grande and Metallica. But over the years, music has steadily permeated the game to the point that Snoop’s Times Square performance was just a kickoff point for a monthlong event.
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A screenshot of Eminem, Snoop Dogg, and Ice Spice in Fortnite.
Fortnite’s current season, dubbed Chapter 2 Remix, debuted this weekend, rewinding the clock with a version of the battle royale map from several years ago. But there’s a twist — hence the “remix” in the title. Each week, the game will change slightly, themed around a different artist. Snoop is up first. You can enlist him as a companion, visit a heavily guarded Dogg Pound compound, or rock out as his tracks play on the radio as you drive around the island.
If you boot up Fortnite Festival, the rhythm game developed by Rock Band studio Harmonix, he’s the new headlining act, which means you can buy his songs to play along to, unlock Snoop-themed guitars and drum sets, and buy a crip walk emote that plays “Drop It Like It’s Hot.” Snoop will be followed by Eminem, Ice Spice, and the late Juice WRLD, with future updates introducing elements like a gun that spits Eminem lyrics.
According to Nate Nanzer, head of global partnerships at Fortnite developer Epic, there have been two key points in the evolution of music in the game that led to this point. The first was Travis Scott’s “Astronomical” concert, which showed the scale possible with these kinds of virtual events, with an audience topping 12 million. “After we did Travis Scott we had everybody coming to us saying ‘Hey, I want to do that,’” says Nanzer.
The second was the launch of Fortnite Festival last year. Like the battle royale mode, Festival has seasons, each “headlined” by a different artist, which, to date, has included stars like Billie Eilish and Lady Gaga. “If you look at all of the things we did prior, they tended to be more one-off,” says Nanzer. “We’d do an event, and then months or even years would go by before we did something else. What Festival did was give us this venue to be able to celebrate music more regularly.
For Snoop’s son Cordell Broadus, there was one particular moment that convinced him Snoop should be in Fortnite. In 2022, a collaboration with the Wu-Tang Clan featured an in-game glider that would play the chorus to “C.R.E.A.M” as players flew down to the battle royale island. “I kept saying: ‘I gotta put his music in there,’” he explains. “Because every time I play Fortnite that’s what I hear. So a lot of the inspiration came from seeing them doing it, and seeing that Fortnite’s not afraid to really deal with hardcore hip-hop.”
That feeling grew stronger as the more ambitious virtual concerts continued to make waves. “We’re real competitive,” says Broadus. “So we’re competing with Travis Scott. What he did with Fortnite was huge, and I feel like we topped that tonight. But we’ll let the people decide.” (Snoop was quick to clarify that “I didn’t say that, he said that.”)
The Fortnite collaborations that get headlines — and a prime Friday night spot in Times Square — feature huge artists. But part of turning the game into a viable venue for music, according to Nanzer, is integrating it in multiple ways so that all kinds of artists can be featured. In addition to virtual concerts and headlining Festival, there are the emotes, in-game radio stations, and individual tracks you can buy to play in Festival.
Not all of these ideas have worked out. Epic tried to create a virtual tour stop for artists in 2020, going so far as to build out a studio space in Los Angeles, and the effort has largely fizzled out. But as the company continues to try to push Fortnite beyond its battle royale roots, with games like Lego Fortnite, a concentrated focus on community-made games and experiences, and a still-mysterious virtual world built with Disney, music is another important tool to make the game more than just another live-service shooter, an increasingly difficult space to compete in. That’s true at various scales, from Snoop in New York to an indie band getting its first airtime on a Fortnite radio station.
“We want to work with the biggest artists in the world,” says Nanzer, “but we also want to figure out if we can break artists in Fortnite.”
Gorgeous is getting good feedbacks this far
Tbh I think it’s been more mixed
I like it but I’ve heard people say that it’s over produced
I can see their point of view too
More mixed?
Fred is a mix off dre, battlecat and quik.
I believe FredWreck did a lot of POP production throughout the years. In my opinion his production his more polished than Meech Wells.What happened to Meech Wells? I used to love this work during the Snoop No Limit era, also I believe he had production on the first Eastsidaz album which sounded amazing during that time.
This Smytty guy posts on the Coli/Booth (formerly SOHH); he didn’t know he was on the album until he saw the track list like the rest of us. Said he thought it was a throwaway verse he did with Method Man. I believe he’s been writing a lot behind the scenes for Dre and others over the years
This Smytty guy posts on the Coli/Booth (formerly SOHH); he didn’t know he was on the album until he saw the track list like the rest of us. Said he thought it was a throwaway verse he did with Method Man. I believe he’s been writing a lot behind the scenes for Dre and others over the years
Fred is a mix off dre, battlecat and quik.
Fred is a mix off dre, battlecat and quik.
all 3 of them are far better than fred …. fred is more on meech wells level, and i actually prefer meech to fred
too bad meech is no longer workin
what’s his username on the coli??
Smitty22. He posted about it in the thread for the Gorgeous single
here's the 76 songs meech and snoop worked together. you can play or download any of em trough the link.Father’s Day is such a fuckin good track! Meech, Snoop, X & Kokane kills it !
https://mega.nz/folder/20ly3aBZ#G0I6U69ROhPbwP6B5Tf0mQ
Father’s Day is such a fuckin good track! Meech, Snoop, X & Kokane kills it !
lmaoooo
that guy is just trollin in that thread
he was jokingly tagged in there because he has the same name .. then he goes along with it in jest
teecee… u have a name on the coli too?
Xzibit too, I love this track!I mentioned X ;)
hahah really? Seen him tagged in other threads too. Gonna change my username to Snoop and see how I get on! He did it very well. I know some artists lurk there so didn't doubt it :D
I mentioned X ;)
yea smitty22 is a prominent poster there …. one of my many nutriders
Have to say that 50 being on here is going to leave a bad taste in the mouth for me after him congratulating the orange cunt. Hoping I can bump the table and the vinyl will skip his verse :D
Not long now though. This album is going to leave a ton of people disappointed. Promoting it as a Doggystyle sequel makes so many expect Doggystyle with different lyrics. It won't be that but it's a Snoop project produced by Dre so people should just enjoy it. It's not 1994, as much as some people would like it to be.
I agree, I think most people on this forum will be disappointed. I mean, for most people on this forum, I'd have to think that doggystyle and the chronic are some of the best albums ever made. I'd say 90% of this forum has both those albums in their top 10 of all time. Many would call either album their top album of all time.
I personally call Doggystyle and The Chronic my top 2 favorite albums of all time, and I can't help but to compare Missionary to these two albums. Is it a fair comparison? Probably not, but I can't help it.
I still have a lot of hope that it is a really dope album though. Especially since I was pleasantly surprised with both the DPG and Eastsidaz new albums.
I don't understand, this guy is pretending to be the real "Smitty" from Aftermath on another forum "Coli"?
I agree, I think most people on this forum will be disappointed. I mean, for most people on this forum, I'd have to think that doggystyle and the chronic are some of the best albums ever made. I'd say 90% of this forum has both those albums in their top 10 of all time. Many would call either album their top album of all time.
I personally call Doggystyle and The Chronic my top 2 favorite albums of all time, and I can't help but to compare Missionary to these two albums. Is it a fair comparison? Probably not, but I can't help it.
I still have a lot of hope that it is a really dope album though. Especially since I was pleasantly surprised with both the DPG and Eastsidaz new albums.
lmaoooo
that guy is just trollin in that thread
he was jokingly tagged in there because he has the same name .. then he goes along with it in jest
teecee… u have a name on the coli too?
lmaoooo
that guy is just trollin in that thread
he was jokingly tagged in there because he has the same name .. then he goes along with it in jest
teecee… u have a name on the coli too?
you mean stylistically maybe?
I like Fred but those are 3 GOATs right there like Sccit said
Snoop Dogg's 'Missionary' Vinyl Looks Like a Condom
No rawdogging
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Levity is extremely important in these trying times — and whether it's his contributions to world-class athletics or enriching the life of Michael Bublé's daughter as an honorary uncle, we can always count on Snoop Dogg to bring it. (And the smoke, except when he's promoting smokeless fire pits.)
The rapper recently confirmed the upcoming release of his Dr. Dre-produced successor to 1993's Doggystyle — Missionary, out December 15 on Interscope — and shared its lead single, a collaboration with Jhené Aiko called "Gorgeous." The album features a ton of additional guest stars, too, including Sting, Eminem, 50 Cent, Jelly Roll, BJ the Chicago Kid, and even the late great Tom Petty.
You can find the full tracklist information and hear "Gorgeous" below, but it was crucial to bring to your attention the fact that the announcement came along with pre-orders for special vinyl copies of the LP. This is typical, except Snoop and his visionary marketing team have optimized the use of picture-disc technology to make the Missionary record look like a condom.
In addition to a classic white latex variant, there are different colours like green and blue available through different retailers if you're into the idea of safe sex with Kermit the Frog or a Smurf. Sure, it was one thing to make the album artwork look like a condom wrapper, but this? It's officially time to wrap it up.
(Missionary condoms are lubricated for your aural pleasure, if you were wondering.)
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And sonically. Snoops Crazy sounds like battlecat beat right? Best beat on that album. I really likes his sound selection. He aint good like those 3, but he is pick somthing from all 3.
ok I see what you are saying now(https://i.ibb.co/zRkP0YB/16.png)
"Crazy" is definitely one of the highlights of that album...I thought the Dre beats were subpar by his standards on BCT
I don’t expect Doggystyle or anything close to that era at all, I am hoping for tunes similar to Dre’s work with Snoop on Tha Last Meal album( Lay Low, True Lies), Hennessy & Buddah still one of my favourites Dre produced track for Snoop, the melodic rhythm and flow over that beat .is so special, I want something like that….when Dre beat and Snoop flow mix together effortlessly
Rick Rock review of the album
I think only him can understand what he is saying 🤣🤣
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCHRi27uJ3K/?igsh=d3drMDV5aG5wMnZo
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Imagine might be one of the best Dre beats ever and Boss' Life is a perfect song, especially version with Nate
Question for y'all. Would you agree that Dr.Dre is a better producer than he is a beatmaker?
what kinda of question is this
it’s like asking if kobe is a better basketball player than he is a shooter
LOL
You know the difference, c'mon, you know this!
the Dre beats on Tha Last Meal and NLTD >Those are classics but he really perfected his 2001 style in 2006 on TBCT and The Big Bang
Question for y'all. Would you agree that Dr.Dre is a better producer than he is a beatmaker?Yes
Yes
Because he barely programs any beats anyway
Question for y'all. Would you agree that Dr.Dre is a better producer than he is a beatmaker?
Yes
Because he barely programs any beats anyway
I'm not an expert on either producing or beatmaking but is there anyone who does those 2 things better than Dre?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pjFp3dm5sVs
this what they lookin for
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pjFp3dm5sVs
this what they lookin for
This is fake though
Absolutely fake, beat is wrong, the voices are from other tracks
Question for y'all. Would you agree that Dr.Dre is a better producer than he is a beatmaker?Yes.
thanks for the update
I think "Gorgeous" is a reference track to Alus ;D ;D
What a great bitch! :o
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBJ1pGJSLzS/
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCM4VmCSjvT/?img_index=1
Too much surgery, they all look like clones.
Too much surgery, they all look like clones.
what do you expect when these womens role models are people like the Kardashians? :laugh:
But, back to talking about the album... when it's will the next single come out?
I believe that by the end of this month, Snoop will release another one, a street single please.
But, back to talking about the album... when it's will the next single come out?
I believe that by the end of this month, Snoop will release another one, a street single please.
Didn't realise you worked in his studio 8)Do you read the credits?
I’m interested to hear the track with Method Man and Smitty, it will be either that or the one with 50 and Em
but imo Meths flow is up there with Snoops, if the 2 of them are in top form it will be a memorable song
would be dopeThere’s no doubt the track with Eminem and 50 would generate the most buzz and is the track most people are looking forward to hearing
There’s no doubt the track with Eminem and 50 would generate the most buzz and is the track most people are looking forward to hearingWith how good Dre has Snoop rapping, I just want Snoop himself over some classic-level Dre production. The only guest I’m looking forward to hearing on the album is Dre himself (Outta da Blue shows their chemistry nicely despite the brutal chorus and production).
With how good Dre has Snoop rapping, I just want Snoop himself over some classic-level Dre production. The only guest I’m looking forward to hearing on the album is Dre himself (Outta da Blue shows their chemistry nicely despite the brutal chorus and production).I completely agree with you, but you know the Interscope machine must be salivating over releasing this track as a single. Also, didn’t one of the co producers suggest this was the best piece of audio ever created? Pretty sure that was the quote…
With how good Dre has Snoop rapping, I just want Snoop himself over some classic-level Dre production. The only guest I’m looking forward to hearing on the album is Dre himself (Outta da Blue shows their chemistry nicely despite the brutal chorus and production).
snoops rapping on gorgeous, while very crisp and technically sound, actually sounds a bit contrived and too pieced together .. not a very natural sound. he does sound more energetic but it honestly lacks that soul
i’m the biggest dre apologist here and i do think the song had classic potential, but a few elements were overdone imo (forced chorus, overproduced snoop rapping, lack of bassline)
wit those minor tweaks we have a still dre level single
imagine butch on that chorus .. really a missed opportunity there
I'm happy they didnt go with Ariana Grande or Sabrina Carpenter for the chorusThey're not above this either haha.
snoops rapping on gorgeous, while very crisp and technically sound, actually sounds a bit contrived and too pieced together .. not a very natural sound. he does sound more energetic but it honestly lacks that soul
i’m the biggest dre apologist here and i do think the song had classic potential, but a few elements were overdone imo (forced chorus, overproduced snoop rapping, lack of bassline)
wit those minor tweaks we have a still dre level single
imagine butch on that chorus .. really a missed opportunity there
I'm happy they didnt go with Ariana Grande or Sabrina Carpenter for the chorus
They're not above this either haha.
They're not above this either haha.
Look at the tracklist.
No DPG, Eastsidaz, RBX, Rage, Butch etc.
All about selling records
I'm happy they didnt go with Ariana Grande or Sabrina Carpenter for the chorus
It’s almost here, can’t wait!
This album needs at least one stone-cold classic track otherwise I think it will be considered a disappointment.
or Skylar Grey
temper expectations folks
if we get a compton level album we will be extremely lucky
even 75% of compton would be good with me, considering the first 2 joints we heard
It just needs one 10/10 track for you to not be a disappointment? For real? We've been waiting on a dre produced snoop dogg album for 30 years. If at least half of the songs aren't 10/10 songs then this album will be a disappointment for me.
I'm hoping to be blown away.
Skylar Grey usually appears in Alex da Kid's beats, and in this case he didn't produce any track for this album, your beats are annoying. Thank God.
temper expectations folks
if we get a compton level album we will be extremely lucky
even 75% of compton would be good with me, considering the first 2 joints we heard
One thing this album will have over Compton is Snoop vs
Dre (the voice and flows were terrible aside from four or five tracks); Gorgeous is “catchier” than anything on Compton BUT they didn’t quite pull it off. Compton’s hightlights were dope AF (Animals, Diary, All in a Days Work, One Shot, Foe the Love, It’s All On Me, Darkside/Gone)….it may be hard to match the quality of these tracks, but I definitely think this album will have bigger hits and gain more traction with the general public.
One thing this album will have over Compton is Snoop vsWhat didn't you like about Gorgeous?
Dre (the voice and flows were terrible aside from four or five tracks); Gorgeous is “catchier” than anything on Compton BUT they didn’t quite pull it off. Compton’s hightlights were dope AF (Animals, Diary, All in a Days Work, One Shot, Foe the Love, It’s All On Me, Darkside/Gone)….it may be hard to match the quality of these tracks, but I definitely think this album will have bigger hits and gain more traction with the general public.
What didn't you like about Gorgeous?
Im not expecting anything Gangsta from Snoop he is considered a POP icon, anything gangsta from him would be fake and laughable at this point, hence why we still have people Tha Eastsidaz; its a bit more authentic and believable. I expect this album to be about who he is now, a Pop icon and a musical performer, good music to vibe to. Gorgeous is fine though, but Rihanna or Beyonce on the chorus would take it where it needed to be.
Are you talking serious?
:snoop: :mjlol: :dead:
Rihanna or Beyonce on the chorus would take it where it needed to be.
Man, there's been some horrible female singers mentioned today in this thread, thank god none of them are on it.
You wouldnt want one 2 of the biggest R&B singers on your first single? Knowing the impact that it could have?
Fuck it, i want Snoop's next single with Taylor Swift on the hook, Billionaire Dre can afford it.
Trash singers? let me guess, having Danny Boy on the hook would have a bigger impact?
I have already discussed this with you previously, if you don't remember go back to the previous pages. Whether it's going to make an impact or not, fuck it. Nobody here wants to know about this rubbish participation. I think you are like that.
What didn't you like about Gorgeous?
Fuck it, i want Snoop's next single with Taylor Swift on the hook, Billionaire Dre can afford it.
Dead serious my guy. The gangsta image is no longer serving for Snoop. Believe it or not, this guy is everywhere, he just cried on national TV two days ago, the tough guy persona is no longer. Snoop is bigger than rap so to me it would make sense to go that route, the audience is wider.
I’m interested to hear the track with Method Man and Smitty, it will be either that or the one with 50 and Em
but imo Meths flow is up there with Snoops, if the 2 of them are in top form it will be a memorable song
Outta Da Blue as a soundtrack
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCUoSL2SPHT/?igsh=MWU3bmdsNnI2ZGwxcg==
Man, there's been some horrible pop female singers mentioned today in this thread, thank god none of them are on it.What the fuck? ???
People on here really thinking 50 Cent was out there getting hip hop quotables or something back in the day? Dude R&G The masterpiece if you want 50 and Snoop. Best you will ever get is probably the PIMP remix. We all know but won't admit Ja Rule was lyrically superior to 50. That beef in my eyes - image won over lyrics.(50 the Underdog stamped by Dre and Em) vs Murder Inc (lyrically better but converted to Pop music and were ridiculed for it)By that logic you shouldn't be excited for Dre/Snoop album either, because both haven't dropped a great project in over a decade
Meth - go replay the song off Neva Left or the Algorithm
The point is why would you be hyped for collabs that already happened and were just ok?
Snoop Dogg Launches New Jewelry Line Called Lovechild (Exclusive)
The rap icon created the collection in collaboration with jewelry brand Metal Alchemist and gamma.: “I wanted to have a product I could share with the world that speaks to every element of who I am at this point in my life.”
November 13, 2024 8:20am
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Drop it like it’s hot: Snoop Dogg is releasing his own jewelry line called Lovechild.
The rap icon created the collection in collaboration with jewelry brand Metal Alchemist and gamma. – the music and media company that he’s partnered with. Lovechild launches Wednesday via pre-sale at Snoop.Love. and the collection will be available on Dec. 6 in retail exclusively at Reeds 57 locations and online at reeds.com.
“I chose to name the collection Lovechild because I felt like the world is so full of anger and negativity and division, and I know that I lead with love,” Snoop Dogg tells The Hollywood Reporter. “The news is quick to bring you bad news, so we are stepping in with a whole new force of love.”
He adds: “Lovechild is a child created from love — while the world is so full of anger, negativity, and division — I’m choosing to lead with love…for the child that still lives within me, for the child that lives within everyone. I wanted to have a product I could share with the world that speaks to every element of who I am at this point in my life.”
Metal Alchemist says Lovechild is “Snoop’s unique take on jewelry designed for personal empowerment, well-being, and iconic style that’s rooted in American craftsmanship.”
Metal Alchemist founder Carolyn Rafaelian adds: “Snoop, Larry [Jackson] and I built our careers from a shared foundational belief: empower others and change the way things are done. With Snoop’s deep-rooted belief in love as an energy that transforms, and Metal Alchemist’s dedication to crafting clean, powerful precious metal innovation, Lovechild was born. Larry knew bringing us together would spark something extraordinary.”
Jackson — a former Apple Music executive — launched gamma. last year, and the company and Snoop Dogg signed a long-term licensing agreement for exclusive rights to market and distribute the Death Row Records catalog, as well as release two Snoop Dogg albums. Gamma. also has a joint venture with Usher and L.A. Reid, and has partnerships with Rick Ross’ Maybach Music Group and Rebel Music/Open Shift Distribution, which includes breakthrough rapper Sexyy Red.
“It’s one thing to endeavor to create a new line in any field, it’s another to do so with a captain of industry and a successful entrepreneur by your side. Having Carolyn Rafaelian on the journey of crafting this new jewelry line with us is a true privilege — it is rare to work with a partner who has the expertise and in house capabilities to create the most fully vertically-integrated manufacturing experience. And with my partner Snoop at the peak of his powers, this partnership stands to be an unexpected hit,” Jackson tells THR.
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The collection is launching Dec. 6 in retail exclusively at Reeds 57 locations and online at reeds.com. It will also available online at Snoop.Love.
Lovechild has something for everyone, as the initial release consists of the following: the Broadus Ring (which pays homage to his last name), cuban link chains in 3mm and 8mm, the Broadus Ring with prong set stones, and cuban chain bracelets in 3mm and 8mm. Each product is available in gold and silver, and prices range from $188 to $1,388.
Per the site’s official description of the partnership, Lovechild “unites Snoop’s values, Gamma’s empowering vision, and Metal Alchemist’s innovation and craftsmanship. Gamma plays a pivotal role, providing the creative freedom and resources that allow Snoop’s vision to thrive without compromise. It was Gamma that connected Snoop and Metal Alchemist, recognizing the synergy between Snoop’s mission and Metal Alchemist’s integrity and unique approach to jewelry. This collaboration enables Lovechild to uphold an uncompromising standard in design and quality, bringing Snoop’s values to life in every piece.”
Pre-order a piece from Snoop Dogg’s new jewelry line just in time for a holiday gift here! https://metalalchemist.com/collections/lovechild
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Outta Da Blue as a soundtrack
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCUoSL2SPHT/?igsh=MWU3bmdsNnI2ZGwxcg==
I don’t even think Gorgeous needs a singer on the hook; I’d rather something along the lines of Still Dre or something…a rapped chorus
How do you know its Outta Da Blue?
People on here really thinking 50 Cent was out there getting hip hop quotables or something back in the day? Dude R&G The masterpiece if you want 50 and Snoop. Best you will ever get is probably the PIMP remix. We all know but won't admit Ja Rule was lyrically superior to 50. That beef in my eyes - image won over lyrics.(50 the Underdog stamped by Dre and Em) vs Murder Inc (lyrically better but converted to Pop music and were ridiculed for it)
Meth - go replay the song off Neva Left or the Algorithm
The point is why would you be hyped for collabs that already happened and were just ok?
Anticipation for me is dead after the 2 songs heard so far. Cube and Xzibit to close out and save the year. I cant be excited about no album where I already heard 13% and its mid that has no replay value for me.
Last year it was BODR dropping - the excitement of a new Death Row
Earlier before that , IG playing Talk Dat $hit in the background after the Eminem mini beef along with the Mount Westmore snippets
This year 2 average songs. SMH
Man saying that Danny boy, Dion or Kobe (lol) are better than Beyonce or that she's a "trash pop-tart singer" is like absolutely fucking delusional lmao
Just to be clear, I didn't want her anywhere near this album, but she's literally one of the most iconic artists with countless classics and been there since the 90's. Her shitty personality and shady reputation can't change that. What's next, y'all gonna claim Butch or Danny Boy are better than Sade too?
You wanna know who the real shitty pop singers are - take a look at this album tracklist, it's filled with them.
beyonce is a solid singer but her style of music doesn’t mesh with snoop like a danny boy would
sade >>>>>>> beyonce btw
Snoop did a song with Kelly Rowland from Destiny's Child who sounds exactly like Beyonce.
Snoop also did a song with freaking Pussycat Dolls, a Danny boy on a hook will not add value to a song in 2024, it make a few members on this board cum. But outside in the real world nobody cares or knows about him
snoop has done shit wit everyone
what’s your point?
eminem also did a song wit beyonce and it was possibly his worst single ever
nobody gives a fuck to hear them together .. 2 different fanbases
My point is, Snoop is the most diverse rapper ever, can we really define his fan base? I'm a day one fan, but also realistic
yes.. we can define his fanbase
being diverse has nothing to do with a core fanbase
just because someone recognizes snoop on a commercial he did with katy perry doesnt now mean katy perry fans are snoop fans …..
damn near nobody cares bout missionary outside of the same cats who loved doggystyle 30+ years ago
that’s his fanbase
Oh, no doubt, that's why I don't want her on it.
beyonce is a solid singer but her style of music doesn’t mesh with snoop like a danny boy would
sade >>>>>>> beyonce btw
Outta Da Blue as a soundtrack
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCUoSL2SPHT/?igsh=MWU3bmdsNnI2ZGwxcg==
Oh, no doubt, that's why I don't want her on it.
I'm just saying it's wild to call her a trash pop singer, especially with singers like Alus and Stalone being on this album, that's all.
Sade is one of the greatest of all time, but it wouldn't surprise me if somebody here called her trash too and said that Jewell is better lol
you lost me when you brought up Ja Rule like he's some type of lyrical miracle wordsmith
Ill take Snoop, Meth and 50s flows over Ja's rapping any day of the week
Again on the subject, Dr.Dre has a different verse than in the leak track
I’m not saying Rule was the pinnacle of lyricism but out the beef Rule> 50 and Tah Murda and Black Child > Banks and Buck.
50 had Em better than all of them but apart from 50 repeating I smell Pu$$y the hype and Muder Inc going Pop was the downfall
Could trim so much irrelevant bickering off this thread ::)
if Outta Da Blue allegedly sounds different to the leak with a different verse, any chance it's got a different beat?
Today the Netflix trailer will be released and will be accompanied by the track then we will know more. I think the track will be officially released today or tomorrow
Could trim so much irrelevant bickering off this thread ::)
if Outta Da Blue allegedly sounds different to the leak with a different verse, any chance it's got a different beat?
Did they make a new track for Missionary out of it???
https://x.com/billboardcharts/status/1857076791543730206?s=46&t=QJJTYqj7mQPgYwSLYwuArA
this isnt good .. not even top top 25 on the hip hop chart and didn’t make billboard hot 100
cube did way better debuting at number 7
this isnt good .. not even top top 25 on the hip hop chart and didn’t make billboard hot 100
cube did way better debuting at number 7
Yeah, they needed a good video like Cube’s to push it but looks like they didn’t bother with a video for this one.
They might have another single planned with good visuals before the album drops
DOPE!!! thx
Look at this low life scumbag
Trailer outHard to tell with the movie sound effects going off if the song is much different.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCWx_MxuHeA/?igsh=cjB0a2c0eXUxNjVy
Look at this low life scumbag
Hard to tell with the movie sound effects going off if the song is much different.
and blu2th says he is satisfied with the "gorgeous" record, fredwreck says the same... here's the result they are satisfied with. fuck ICU.
👉👌
Not sure why you guys didn't like that song so much. It's a pretty dope hype track.
The hate in this forum is there from the beginning although the album and the remaining tracks are not yet out. The forum was different a few years ago also the respect was there, now only children's stuff
how old are you? really?
47 I've been there since 2000, but in 2011 I had to make a new account
The hate in this forum is there from the beginning although the album and the remaining tracks are not yet out. The forum was different a few years ago also the respect was there, now only children's stuff
gorgeous is weak
everything on rbx album is better
and when the piano first hit i initially thought it was dope
but the more i listen n compare it to less contrived shit the more i realize what a weak effort it is
keep in mind dre has always been my inspiration in producing
if u bump it’s my ego immediately after gorgeous u will see the difference
They are two different tracks though. I see ''Gorgeous'' as an attempt to reach the POP audience, while ''Its My Ego'' is for the core Ice Cube fans. Sonically Gorgeous is better, it sounds amazing in the car too, and I've heard it in a store as well and it fit the atmosphere.
Now, do I think this is a great lead single to hype the album; Absolutely not, but again this may be a failed attempt to go Pop
failed attempt is the right phrase
and it doesn’t sound amazing in the whip
it sounds hollow and overly polished
I like Gorgeous well enough, but like you when I first heard the piano I thought it was the one. Still, I don’t mind it at all, just but a great first single. It’s My Ego is okay in my opinion but nothing too special…pretty formulaic. I like the “remix”…overall it’s a quality track.
gorgeous is weak
everything on rbx album is better
and when the piano first hit i initially thought it was dope
but the more i listen n compare it to less contrived shit the more i realize what a weak effort it is
keep in mind dre has always been my inspiration in producing
if u bump it’s my ego immediately after gorgeous u will see the difference
Gorgeous is mid
I like Gorgeous well enough, but like you when I first heard the piano I thought it was the one. Still, I don’t mind it at all, just but a great first single. It’s My Ego is okay in my opinion but nothing too special…pretty formulaic. I like the “remix”…overall it’s a quality track.
They are two different tracks though. I see ''Gorgeous'' as an attempt to reach the POP audience, while ''Its My Ego'' is for the core Ice Cube fans. Sonically Gorgeous is better, it sounds amazing in the car too, and I've heard it in a store as well and it fit the atmosphere.
Now, do I think this is a great lead single to hype the album; Absolutely not, but again this may be a failed attempt to go Pop
its my ego is a "xxxx type of beat #47" produced by xxxxx (any fucking amateur youtube beatmaker).
write "free west coast beats" to youtube and listen a few immediately you will see the similarity.
i don't know why you guys think its my ego is for core ice cube fans.
i'm expecting a few core ice cube fans to show up here so let them talk. i want to hear what the core ice cube fans wants.
it sounds fun when somebody who is not a core ice cube fan talks about what core icube fans want.
"its my ego" type of song doesnt represent any era of ice cube, i meanice cube was "the ice cube" like he was kendrick.
i can tell you’ve never gotten into EA Ski and his name is mostly unfamiliar to you
show me a free west coast beat that compares to it’s my ego in terms of layering and sonic mastery
just check a few free west coast beats on youtube, you will find way more better beats.
the hate for it’s my ego and love for gorgeous is mind boggling
:mindblown:
It’s a matter of preference I guess but when I listen to ITS MY EGO it reminds me of that beat below.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TZ_Ad9QJ-O4
the hate for it’s my ego and love for gorgeous is mind boggling
:mindblown:
I feel the opposite, the My Ego beat is cool but Ice Cube did nothing special with it.
and let me guess, u think gorgeous is excellent, right?
Why do you keep comparing both? You think it’s either or?
You think people can’t like both?
I like both, both good music to, different in vibe but that’s exactly what it used to be about!
They don’t have to the same type of sound, vibe, tempo to be good.
It’s not a versus battle 🙈
Why are you comparing!!!! We are all equal and lovable ok!!!! Stfu you fucking low life it’s a music forum. You slow or something. People literally come here to discuss music
Why are you comparing!!!! We are all equal and lovable ok!!!! Stfu you fucking low life it’s a music forum. You slow or something. People literally come here to discuss music
and let me guess, u think gorgeous is excellent, right?
I don't think Gorgeous is perfect but overall I think it's a better track, you saying that it's worse than every tack off the RBX album is laughable.
I don't think Gorgeous is perfect but overall I think it's a better track, you saying that it's worse than every tack off the RBX album is laughable.
Your mom’s pussy is laughable with those roast beefs flapping, you low life scumbags never learn. “Oh I don’t think gorgeous is perfect” STFU you cock gobbler you sound like an idiot
what’s laughable is you being impressed with gorgeous as the first snoop & dre single in almost 20 years
You arguing with everyone in the forum who has a different opinion to you is the real joke. You like My Ego better than Gorgeous, good for you, I'm happy for you.
Your mom’s pussy is laughable with those roast beefs flapping, you low life scumbags never learn. “Oh I don’t think gorgeous is perfect” STFU you cock gobbler you sound like an idiot
Dre Snoop Drink Champs tomorrow, reminder
Hope it’s the real deal and they go for a while and no topic off the table
Why are you comparing!!!! We are all equal and lovable ok!!!! Stfu you fucking low life it’s a music forum. You slow or something. People literally come here to discuss music
You arguing with everyone in the forum who has a different opinion to you is the real joke. You like My Ego better than Gorgeous, good for you, I'm happy for you.
Bro you seem stresful nowadays, cool it down please. thats not you.
Bro you seem stresful nowadays, cool it down please. thats not you.
Looking forward to the Drink Champs interview! They usually run 2-3 hours.
Gorgeous is the biggest disappointment of my life. And why are people here are defending it like it’s their mom? Outta Da Blue might actually be better than Gorgeous.
I don't see all the hate for Gorgeous. I personally like it, it's catchy and I find it stuck in my head (which is what a single is supposed to do). Everybody I showed the song to (more casual listeners, not people who are more into it that go to forums like us) they seem to really love it and are impressed by the song so I feel the album should do well. I for one, am excited for the album. I'm not going to do no weird shit like compare it to an album that came out 31 years ago and hold it to unrealistic expectations. Imma just enjoy it for what it is, you should too.
I don't see all the hate for Gorgeous. I personally like it, it's catchy and I find it stuck in my head (which is what a single is supposed to do). Everybody I showed the song to (more casual listeners, not people who are more into it that go to forums like us) they seem to really love it and are impressed by the song so I feel the album should do well. I for one, am excited for the album. I'm not going to do no weird shit like compare it to an album that came out 31 years ago and hold it to unrealistic expectations. Imma just enjoy it for what it is, you should too.
That's your biggest disappointment? you need to go outside and live my friend!
the casual listener might like it but they are not the ones who are purchasing the album...we are
I am more excited about the Pete & Bas debut album. Than this Snoop & Dre album. Just checked out Gorgeous and Outta Da Blue. Gorgeous is mediocre and Outta Da Blue. is not what i want on a Dre produced album. I want songs like that imagine song they did.
Same, it's going to be great. Pete & Bas, then Cube, then the new Body Count album. Next friday is going to be a great day for music!
Anyone know if Nore and Snoop have ever had any public conversations about LA LA? Jus curious to see what was said.They did in the past, Snoop went to Drink Champs twice already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv2Tfgkm_0M
They just promoted Outta Da Blue as a new track on Drink Champs… can’t believe we getting a leaked joint that hasn’t had a great reception as the next big thing… bruh! :(
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCcztZ7ucvI/?igsh=MTBqa2E2NmR1c3d4ag==
Maybe they’re expecting Outta Da Blue to catch on with the younger generation or play in the clubs but I have to admit, I’m surprised they are pushing this as a single and even surprised it made the album TBH
Maybe they’re expecting Outta Da Blue to catch on with the younger generation or play in the clubs but I have to admit, I’m surprised they are pushing this as a single and even surprised it made the album TBH
the track is so bad it won't be catching on with anyone.
you can't even blame Dem Jointz cause Dre is the one picking these things thinking it's the best shit going. it's sad.
They just promoted Outta Da Blue as a new track on Drink Champs… can’t believe we getting a leaked joint that hasn’t had a great reception as the next big thing… bruh! :(
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCcztZ7ucvI/?igsh=MTBqa2E2NmR1c3d4ag==
people finally realizing yall got scammed by dre with this compton pt2 sounding nonsense lol. dre turned his back on everyone who worked on detox tirelessly for a decade just to scrap all those flawless classics including the early detox leaks, just link up with these new guys who are ruining his legacy by being mindless yes men. maybe now people will appreciate the detox era more when dre was actually being innovative and using the great talent of the people around him.
Its slowed down. The original speed is faster
Oh God the preview of the Sting song.....
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCdPY8PRHWe/?igsh=ZG9vb2s4cDV4aXIz
Mike Tyson > Dre
All new snippets from the album
What are we thinking ??
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCdrxQmvwVr/?igsh=aXpxdXllZ3BvY25j
With all respect bro! It’s like saying my shit is brown now but tomorrow it’s green… bro it’s still shit!
Seems like Dre picket the wrong team with the ICU..Yeah, that was obvious from the moment Compton dropped. And the worst part is that he's been stuck with them for a decade now, they been his production team longer then anybody else before them (other than Mike Elizondo)
All new snippets from the album
What are we thinking ??
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCdrxQmvwVr/?igsh=aXpxdXllZ3BvY25j
First snippet is called "thank you" and its not for missionary. Dre said he is still not done with the song and its a demo that they are going to play.
Damn, that's a real shame. That first track sounds dope (the best of the snippets) with that guitar! I like how Snoop took the first couple of bars of 'The Watcher'they chose Outta Da Blue instead :laugh:
What were they thinking not putting that on the album?
Yeah, that was obvious from the moment Compton dropped. And the worst part is that he's been stuck with them for a decade now, they been his production team longer then anybody else before them (other than Mike Elizondo)
Haha what adults nothing for you gangsta idiots
NWA created Gangsta Rap at the time. Dre has developed it further with Chronic 2001, now they are almost 60 and Dre has adapted Snoop to his age, out of the gangsta shit and made international music out of himself, now we also know why they took Sting, because it is from their generation and all the others who are over 50, Dre and Snoop are out of the gangsta shit. There will be no detox as we expect, gangsta rap is out, we have 2024
bad music is bad music whether it be gangsta or notfacts
I’m not mad at how those previews sound. They sound kinda dope to me. I’ll have to wait to judge the album when it comes out.
facts
the first snippet had the most energy but that's not on the album. caught the Dem Jointz snare though...
jelly roll track sounded like a nice production.
for what compton was, which was basically 2015 version of the aftermath presents 2000 album, it was listenable. but for a dr dre album following 2001, grodt, doc1, big bang, blue carpet, kingdom come, bishop tapes, slim war music, relapse, recovery, curtis, bisd, red album, gkmc etc it was extremely pathetic. if we didnt know the amount of legends working on detox and the leaks/snippets/known songs for it that dropped from detox, we would probably enjoy the new stuff 5% more but knowing how great detox was and knowing that dre caved in from fake pressure put onto him by jimmy iovine its a slap in the face for hiphop fans. its not hyperbole to say detox dropping wouldve changed rap music. it was literally everything we ever wanted from a dre album but it is what it is now, just another sad L we gotta take knowing dre is too insecure to even drop a lost tapes album.
WISH this was compton 2
unfortunately, it’s not lookin that way
for what compton was, which was basically 2015 version of the aftermath presents 2000 album, it was listenable. but for a dr dre album following 2001, grodt, doc1, big bang, blue carpet, kingdom come, bishop tapes, slim war music, relapse, recovery, curtis, bisd, red album, gkmc etc it was extremely pathetic. if we didnt know the amount of legends working on detox and the leaks/snippets/known songs for it that dropped from detox, we would probably enjoy the new stuff 5% more but knowing how great detox was and knowing that dre caved in from fake pressure put onto him by jimmy iovine its a slap in the face for hiphop fans. its not hyperbole to say detox dropping wouldve changed rap music. it was literally everything we ever wanted from a dre album but it is what it is now, just another sad L we gotta take knowing dre is too insecure to even drop a lost tapes album.Dre didn't do shit on Red album and war music tho, he only dropped 1 guest verse on both
Dre didn't do shit on Red album and war music tho, he only dropped 1 guest verse on bothdre did almost half of the original red album, was co exec producer with pharrell on it. some of the stuff ended up dropping through mixtapes. back against the wall with slim the mobster was a detox leftover. come and go, fire, ridaz, psycho, death to my enemies, ok ur right, i get it in etc are all top tier dre collabs. calling producing over a quarter to half of those albums small contributions by dre and wack is hilarious.
And his role on Curtis, recovery and bisd was very small and frankly wack
the rest of your post is on point
dre did almost half of the original red album, was co exec producer with pharrell on it. some of the stuff ended up dropping through mixtapes. back against the wall with slim the mobster was a detox leftover. come and go, fire, ridaz, psycho, death to my enemies, ok ur right, i get it in etc are all top tier dre collabs. calling producing over a quarter to half of those albums small contributions by dre and wack is hilarious.The original red, yes, not the one that was released. And he did only like 4 tracks on the original version, if I'm not mistaking.
The original red, yes, not the one that was released. And he did only like 4 tracks on the original version, if I'm not mistaking.ur just talking semantics, official or leaked dont matter, real songs from those albums exist and they were all fire. they might not be for u but that dont mean they arent dope lol. Fire and all the other songs u think arent special are still way better than everything we got after detox was finally scrapped in 2011, people need to appreciate those songs more cuz were never returning to that futuristic and experimental sound from dre ever again. entitled fans are too ungrateful and dismissive at times.
Back against the wall was the only Dre song on War Music and it had Jake one's production
Fire legit might be one of the worst beats Dre ever did, literally any beat on Compton was better, and the rest of the ones you mentioned weren't anything special, just some good beats
I get it in was cool though but it wasn't on the album
"quarter to half"? Bruh learn how to count lol. Dre only did 2 tracks on recovery out of 20. That's not a half nor a quarter. 3 tracks out of 17 on both bisd and curtis. That is a small role.
Fire and all the other songs u think arent special are still way better than everything we got after detox was finally scrapped in 2011, people need to appreciate those songs more cuz were never returning to that futuristic and experimental sound from dre ever again. entitled fans are too ungrateful and dismissive at times.Gone alone is better than all these songs you mentioned.
Gone alone is better than all these songs you mentioned.gone is terrible, just a basic rip off of the mid 2000s dre piano beats, weak beat by Focus. clearly u didnt understand what futuristic and experimental means in this context. dre rapping over trap beats on compton is not experimental lol.
There was nothing futuristic about Fire, Death to my enemies or Psycho, they were very basic ass records. And even if they were, just because something sounds "futuristic and experimental" doesn't mean it's good. Hell, Compton was experimental for Dre, doesn't change the fact that it was a disappointment.
gone is terrible, just a basic rip off of the mid 2000s dre piano beats, weak beat by Focus. clearly u didnt understand what futuristic and experimental means in this context. dre rapping over trap beats on compton is not experimental lol.If Gone was terrible that would mean all the mid 00's Dre beats were terrible as well, by your logic. Because that beat is pure classic Dre (Focus didn't even touch that song lol)
for what compton was, which was basically 2015 version of the aftermath presents 2000 album, it was listenable. but for a dr dre album following 2001, grodt, doc1, big bang, blue carpet, kingdom come, bishop tapes, slim war music, relapse, recovery, curtis, bisd, red album, gkmc etc it was extremely pathetic. if we didnt know the amount of legends working on detox and the leaks/snippets/known songs for it that dropped from detox, we would probably enjoy the new stuff 5% more but knowing how great detox was and knowing that dre caved in from fake pressure put onto him by jimmy iovine its a slap in the face for hiphop fans. its not hyperbole to say detox dropping wouldve changed rap music. it was literally everything we ever wanted from a dre album but it is what it is now, just another sad L we gotta take knowing dre is too insecure to even drop a lost tapes album.
Don’t tell me what to do. Oh how weird to compare it to the album that THEY keep mentioning it’s a sequel too. Nobody is telling you not to enjoy it. We are simply expressing our opinions. If that bothers you get the fuck off a forum and keep listening to it with your casual buddies while you get some matcha lattesTell you what to do? I wasn't even talking to you! You think o make a post and it's dedicated to you? Get your head out your ass and leave me alone potna! I was stating my opinion, it didn't warrant a response from you as it wasn't directed at you. But since you wanted my attention, you got it. If you want to be goofy and compare a 2024 release to a 1994 release do what floats your boat. Kinda retarded if you ask me but retarded does retarded shit I guess. You on here trying to argue with whoever you think will bite on your bullshit well you found the right one buddy. You on a forum upset about an single because I stated I liked it and you don't. Who loves a fuck what you dislike. I'm actually on and from the west coast and we lime the song over here so casually put these nutts in ya mouth you fuckin scumbag. Now I'm talking you what to do, leave me the fuck alone. You on here uptight, arguing with mothafuckas, why don't you log off and search your basement for you dildo so you can feel better and not be so uptight my guy.
father time is undefeated
i hope he proves me wrong.. but based on the three snippets, dre after his divorce = kobe after tearing his achilles
even the goats cant be in prime form forever
Today In Hip Hop History: Dr. Dre’s Sophomore Solo Album ‘The Chronic 2001’ Turns 25 Years Old!
November 16, 2024
On this day in 1999, legendary super-producer Dr. Dre put out Chronic 2001, his last album before a 16-year hiatus. Containing some of the most known tracks in rap, Chronic 2001 has been extremely successful over the years. As of July 2013, the album has been certified septuple platinum, selling 7,664,000 copies in the United States alone and with the recent success of the film Straight Outta Compton, one can only imagine the increase in its sales that is to come. Dr. Dre is an artist known for the breaks he takes between albums. Chronic 2001, the follow-up to The Chronic, came seven years after its predecessor and although it may have been an excruciating period of time to wait, each project he’s delivered has been more than worth the time spent wondering what it would consist of.
The quality of work that makes up Chronic 2001 is epic. Of course, the production of this album is more solid than most coming from Dre himself along with Mel-Man and Lord Finesse, but the vocal features that were at Dre’s disposal due to his success at the time also helped to make this project such a classic. Rappers such as The D.O.C., Hittman, Snoop Dogg, Kurupt, Xzibit, Nate Dogg, and Eminem made appearances on this album. It would be an understatement to say that this project was an influential part of west coast rap and culture.
As previously stated, this album was widely regarded and critically acclaimed. It debuted in 1999 at #2 on the Billboard 200 chart where it peaked and sold 516,000 copies in its first week. The album also claimed the #1 spot on the Billboard Top R&B/Hip Hop Albums chart, #4 on the UK Album Chart, and #17 in the Dutch Albums Chart. As far as its legacy, the album has made its appearances on music charts worldwide since its release and is #17 on the Billboard 200 chart for the 2000s. Its hit single “Still D.R.E.”, is certified quadruple platinum by the RIAA and is a household name in the Hip Hop world.
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Dr. Dre’s successes following this album are enough to make a second movie about. His influence on rap and rap culture spans a generation and his place in pop culture as a whole has been cemented due to what he has accomplished. We can only sit back and watch what the mastermind that is Dr. Dre has in store for us in the coming years.
Ranking Every Song on Dr. Dre's '2001' Album
Dr. Dre's '2001' album turns 25 this year.
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For the 25th anniversary of Dr. Dre’s classic ‘2001’ album, Okayplayer ranks every track on the LP, from “Still Dre” to “Forgot About Dre.”
Was Dr. Dre still Dr. Dre?
Sure he was a legend, but following his departure from Death Row Records, middling reception to The Firm’s debut album, and an objectively lackluster Aftermath compilation, the answer wasn’t so clear. In 1999, Dre erased any ambiguities with 2001, a sophomore album that re-established the musical maestro as one of the most compelling forces hip-hop has ever produced.
Released about seven years after he revitalized the West Coast with his debut album, The Chronic, the LP is a powerhouse effort that includes features sleekly nocturnal production, bars from apex Eminem, and timeless Snoop Dogg-assisted anthems designed to reverberate into the ages. While I’d argue it’s a half-notch below the standard he set with his maiden effort, it stands as compelling evidence of why we should never forget about Dre.
Tomorrow, 2001 celebrates its 25th anniversary. To celebrate, Okayplayer ranks every single track on the album. Peep the list below.
22. "Bar One (Skit)" (featuring Traci Nelson, Ms. Roq, and Eddie Griffin)
A limpid placeholder that really doesn’t need to be on this LP, and it’s also not all that funny.
21. "The Car Bomb (Skit)" (featuring Mel-Man and Charis Henry)
The thing with skits is that they’re usually only around to serve as bridges to the next actual song, so they don’t have to be anything spectacular. This one fulfills its purpose with a genuinely organic interaction between the vocalists, but it’s just a skit, so placing it here.
20. "Ed-Ucation" (featuring Eddie Griffin)
Empty, by-the-books “women are women and hoes are hoes” rhetoric even Eddie Griffin’s expressive delivery can’t save.
19. "Pause 4 Porno (Skit)" (featuring Jake Steed)
Yo… was Dre serious with this? Probably not, and it’s cool because it’s some genuinely funny bit of absurdist humor.
18. “Lolo (Intro)”
Nothing special here, but nothing especially offensive or needless. Its cinematic tone lets you know you’re in for some fire, though.
17. "Murder Ink" (featuring Hittman and Ms. Roq)
Props for the Halloween sample, but the track feels generic otherwise, with flavorless verses and a hook that sounds like it came together in exactly 15 seconds. Dre’s authoritative presence is also sorely missed on the vocal end of things.
16. "Housewife" (featuring Kurupt and Hittman)
This one’s just kinda there. Serviceable hook and fine enough Dre verse, but it’s a mostly indistinct entry into an album that’s already deals with this whole topic — a very sexist one — a little too much. Ok, way too much. But at least the others are more fun.
15. "Let's Get High" (featuring Hittman, Kurupt, and Ms. Roq)
Out of all the 2001 tracks, “Let’s Get High” sounds the most like early ’90s G-Funk, and the spitters here bounce off each other with some engaging kineticism to make you feel like you’re at a house party.
14. "Ackrite" (featuring Hittman)
Playful, threatening and melodic, Hittman did his thing here, even if we’re toward the back end of the album at this point. He’s an underrated figure in this whole 2001 saga, as you’ll see throughout the list.
13. "Bitch Niggaz" (featuring Snoop Dogg, Hittman, and Six-Two)
With some vaguely sinister guitar strings and menacing verses from all involved parties, “Bitch Niggaz” typifies gangsta rap of the early aughts — with Dr. Dre, of course, being at the sonic and curatorial center. And man. Whatever happened to Hittman? This dude is on the album way more than I remember, and he seemingly always does his thing.
12. "Light Speed" (featuring Hittman)
A fog of nocturnal gangsta funk, “Light Speed” isn’t anything that its title suggests. But it is embedded with a deceptively infectious hook and another set of charismatic flows from Dr. Dre.
11. "Some L.A. Niggaz" (featuring Hittman, Defari, Xzibit, Knoc-turn'al, Time Bomb, King T, MC Ren, and Kokane)
Kudos to Dre for bringing MC Ren back into the mix, and Xzibit once again reminds us why there was way more to him than Pimp My Ride — even if I’d love to see another season in the very near future.
10. "Bang Bang" (featuring Knoc-turn'al and Hittman)
Everyone knows the streets of L.A. have a gun problem, and it’s really not something to celebrate. Here, Dre takes a step back from glorifying the action to simply call it for what it is, and the beat, along with the guest appearances, mesh seamlessly with his ambivalent stance on the whole situation.
9. “Big Ego’s” (featuring Hittman)
Two big ego's making you realize they've got a reason to be that way — even Hittman!
8. "The Message/Outro" (featuring Mary J. Blige and Rell)
Penned by Royce Da 5’9,” “The Message” serves as a touching reflection to Dr. Dre’s younger brother, who died in a fight back in the ’80s. While it scans as a bit by the numbers, Mary J. Blige’s vocals, and the general poignance of the writing make this one resonate in a major way. Plus, it’s a nice reprieve from some of 2001’s excessive nihilism. Somber Dre can be a pretty profound one.
7. "Fuck You" (featuring Devin the Dude and Snoop Dogg)
Classic, juvenile, and probably irresponsible West Coast fun courtesy of flagrant obscenities, a stylish soundscape and delirious joint hook from Devin the Dude and Snoop. Parts of it are very cringe as it pushes the limits of blatant misogyny, but it’s all done in such casually blatant way it sort of just blends in with the silliness of the song
6. “The Watcher”
With “The Watcher,” Dre revels in living to be an OG, emitting an unusual comfort with aging out of music industry and miscellaneous street nonsense. The rhymes here are sharp — Em reportedly wrote them — but once again, Dre sells it with matter-of-fact conviction and a beat designed for pensive thoughts.
5. "Xxplosive" (featuring Hittman, Kurupt, Nate Dogg, and Six-Two)
With the exception of “Still Dre,” no other 2001 track embodies “Xxplosive”’s undercurrent of pristine, West Coast cool. Once again, Nate Dogg serves up a melody you can’t help but murmur, and Hittman reminds all that he should’ve had more of a career. Bonus points for this being the beat Vince Staples Blacked out on for an L.A. Leakers freestyle years later.
4. “The Next Episode” featuring Snoop Dogg, Nate Dogg and Kurupt
Everything about this one sounds like a celebratory climax. The David McCallum sample is epic, Snoop’s hook (lada-dada-da!) is infectious and the shit talk is sublime. All those elements were already enough, but Nate Dogg’s refrain cemented the track is legendary.
3. “What’s The Difference” featuring Xzibit and Eminem
A posse cut among posse cuts, this one sees Dre, Xzibit, and Em get reflective as they nod to themes of loyalty, brotherhood and abrupt honesty. The beat here is iconic and the hook itself is a challenge rooted in integrity, helping make it more than symbolic enough to be indelible.
2. “Forgot About Dre” featuring Eminem
A flurry of nihilistic punchlines and ricocheting rhyme schemes, “Forgot About Dre” is the rap equivalent of Mischief Night. Delivering an Eminem-written verse, Dre once again puts down all his naysayers with frequent reminders of his resume. For his part, Em turns in the most tightly wound rhyme couplets you could ever imagine, swirling them together with an impressively juvenile imagination.
“Still D.R.E.” featuring Snoop Dogg
From its cinematically fluttering keys to its West Coast symbolism and general theme of the gang getting back together, everything about “Still D.R.E.” says “West Coast Classic.” Here, Snoop Dogg and Dre are back to their old tricks as the duo that put the West Coast on their shoulders to define the G-Funk era. Dre nods to fallen friends (2Pac and Eazy-E) and low-riding Cali traditions before offering sharp retort for folks who said he’d fallen off: “They say Dre fell off, how, nigga, my last album was The Chronic.” Sure, JAY-Z wrote it, but Dre said TF outta that shit. Then, there’s the two-part hook that hits with all the destructive force of a joint punch from Batman and Robin — or a LeBron alley oop from Dwyane Wade. Between the bars, the beat, and Dre’s charisma, it’s all pretty incredible. But when you throw in the nostalgia — even back then — it becomes a reassuring reminder that sometimes, the best things can live forever. Even if it's only for four minutes at a time.
1999 Rewind: Remembering Dr. Dre’s 2001
November 16, 2024 1999 Rewind, best of, Dr. Dre, music
Are y’all ready to party like it’s 1999? We all love the 90s here so it’s only right to revisit albums that are marking 25 years in 2024. 1999 Rewind looks back at all your old faves and see how well they hold up.
Were you as confused as I was in 1999 when Dr. Dre dropped an album named 2001? Weird nomenclature aside – that’s a whole story in itself – the pressure was sky-high for Dre on this project. His previous offerings with The Firm and Aftermath underwhelmed, and the shadow of the legendary The Chronic loomed large. Ronald Grant is back to talk about the very controversial and complicated legacy of Dre’s comeback album.
Ronald’s 2001 song ranking
1. “Xxplosive”
2. “The Next Episode”
3. “Still D.R.E.”
4. “What’s the Difference”
5. “Forgot About Dre”
6. “The Watcher”
7. “F*** You”
8. “Big Ego’s”
9. “Light Speed”
10. “Some L.A. N****z”
11. “B**** N****z”
12. “Let’s Get High”
13. “The Message”
14. “Housewife”
15. “Bang Bang”
16. “Ackrite”
17. “Murder Ink”
Edd’s 2001 song ranking
1. “Xxplosive”
2. “Forgot About Dre”
3. “The Next Episode”
4. “Still D.R.E.”
5. “The Watcher”
6. “What’s the Difference”
7. “Housewife”
8. “B**** N****z”
9. “Let’s Get High”
10. “Bang Bang”
11. “Murder Ink”
12. “Big Ego’s”
13. “The Message”
14. “Some L.A. N****z”
15. “F*** You”
16. “Ackrite”
17. “Light Speed”
Y’all know how we start – share your first thoughts of hearing this album.
Ronald: There’s one memory that sticks out particularly with first hearing 2001. I’m on the Seven Mile bus headed home from my after-school job at a supermarket in a suburb of Detroit and I unintentionally start ear hustling a conversation between a guy my age and another in probably his mid-20s. The older guy is saying how 2001 is basically better than any other hip-hop album that dropped so far in ‘99. While I didn’t chime in, I do remember thinking, “How good could it be? It’s been like a hundred years since The Chronic!” Still, I remembered the dude’s words and soon headed to my nearest Best Buy to scoop up a copy. While I can’t that my mind was blown, I was proven VERY wrong: 2001 had bangers to spare! I also remember being particularly taken with “Xxplosive” and “Light Speed’. Overall, I gladly ate my slice of humble pie and enjoyed 2001 throughout the remainder of ’99 and well into 2000.
Edd: Once again, this isn’t an album I enjoyed in real time. I’m a native of Virginia and in the 90s the industry remained very regional in its sounds. In the early years of my fandom Va’s sounds were directly influenced by whatever was going on in New York at the time. By the mid to late 90s, Va was more readily embracing Southern hip-hop influences. We were quite the sonic melting pot. However, that often excluded the west. Now don’t misunderstand me, it’s not like we didn’t hear West Coast artists on our radio – I was a big Snoop fan and news of 2pac’s death had all the girls crying on my school bus. That said, my tastes were strictly East Coast/Dirty South in 99, so I didn’t rush out to buy this album, even though the singles got recent radio and video play. I wouldn’t hear the album in full until the streaming era, and I quickly became a fan. And last year when I ranked the best rap albums of the 90s, I was surprised to see just how well this album continues to hold up sonically.
What’s your pick for best song?
Ronald: “Xxplosive”
It’s gotta be “Xxplosive.” Considering everything on this album, this is an extremely tough question. Between a handful of legendary singles and what seems like a ton of deep cuts that could have been singles, it took me a minute to come to an answer. But “Xxplosive” is just this buttery, bluesy wave of impeccable production that stands unmatched even by the massive radio hits. Kurupt is completely in his bag in kicking the song off and Nate Dogg’s pristine R&B in-song interlude makes it a classic. But to me, the real proof is in how sampling the song provided Erykah Badu with her first Billboard Top Ten hit in “Bag Lady”. I see it as no small feat for an R&B song to sample a hip-hop track and blow up off it when it’s usually the other way around.
Edd: “Xxplosive”
Ron never lied. “Xxplosive” is an now-iconic mix of laid-back cool and biting edge. This track pimp walks through your speakers. From that catchy hook from the underrated Hittman – the unquestioned MVP of this project – to Nate Dogg’s brand of R&B bullying, this track has become a quintessential West Coast hit.
What about best video?
Ronald: “Forgot About Dre”
“Forgot About Dre” is my choice here. Let’s face it: there’s something weirdly sinister, goofy and hilarious about Dre and Eminem when they’re in music videos together. “Forgot About Dre” is no exception. Dre must’ve said to just give this video the full Eminem treatment because it’s so reminiscent of both “My Name Is” and “Guilty Conscience.” And Em claiming to have been upstairs listening to his Will Smith CD while the old lady’s house “caught on fire” is just the perfect bit of sarcasm. In truth, “Forgot About Dre” is more entertaining than any other music video from 2001. While “Stil D.R.E.” and “The Next Episode” are classic radio singles, neither video aged well. With “Forgot About Dre” we at least got an injection of dark comedy that we know couldn’t be pulled off today but made for a video that matched the vibe of the song perfectly.
Edd: “Forgot About Dre”
“Forgot About Dre” for sure. Ron’s points are sound – “The Next Episode” and “Still D.R.E.” are just late 90s rap visuals. They’re not poor but they certainly aren’t very memorable. “Forgot About Dre” is another level of madness. Remember, Eminem was still relatively fresh to the scene when this video dropped in early 2000, so his cartoonish antics and twisted humor were still novel. Em steals the show, making these visuals anything but boring.
And name a song that should have been a single.
Ronald: “What’s the Difference”
“What’s the Difference,” without a doubt. Upon a few additional listens, I was gonna give the nod to “Light Speed” because it just oozes that signature West Coast sticky icky bravado. But “What’s the Difference” can arguably be counted as one of the most monumental deep cuts of all time. Where else can you find upstart versions of Eminem and Xzibit, both having graduated from the battle rap circuit and at the start of their major label careers and both giving some of the most spirited, hungry verses from their respective catalogs? Combined with that sample from Dre that equal parts gritty, smooth, heavy and thumping and you have a song that would have served perfectly as another single from an album already loaded with heavy hitters. Of course, you’d need to clean up Em’s closing verse to make it radio ready. But other than that, I deem “What’s the Difference” single worthy.
Edd: “What’s the Difference”
Imma need Ron to stop stealing my answers! But I love it when you’re right. “What’s the Difference” is one of those tracks that FEELS like a single, even though that wasn’t the case officially. Those thumping horns that waddle around the track like the Penguin are instantly recognizable, as are the verses from X to the Z and Em – the latter of whom especially snaps. All this needed was yet another insane video and I think it was a hit in the making – not that this project lacked hits.
Every Dr. Dre project has stellar production. Which beat was best?
Ronald: “Xxplosive”
It’s hard to argue against “Xxplosive.” Maybe it’s a cop out on my part, but it’s literally one of the most flawlessly produced songs in all of Dre’s catalog. That silky guitar and that subtle but commanding bassline immediately engulf you in pure, unadulterated West Coast sh*t. It’s been said many times that Dre is an undeniable perfectionist, and I can see why when he and Mel-Man can come up with production this funky and saturating.
Edd: “Xxplosive”
Nope, it’s not a cop-out when it’s the correct answer, playa. The production of “Xxplosive” towers above all others, and that’s saying a LOT for a Dr. Dre project. As Ron mentioned earlier, the fact that Erykah Badu borrowed the same sample for “Bag Lady” not even a full calendar year after its release shows just how inspired the production was for others artists. Easily one of the best beats of its era. Maybe ever.
What’s the most underrated song on the project?
Ronald: “Some L.A. N****z”
I’m gonna roll with “Some L.A. N****z”. At first, I was inclined to choose “Big Ego’s,” but the former has more flavor to it and, honestly, is everything a great posse cut should be. When you consider that 2001 starts to lose steam a bit once you hit “The Car Bomb,” it can be easy to dismiss the latter half of the album. That said, “Some L.A. N****z” brings the energy back up but also masterfully mellows things out while featuring some of L.A.’s most coveted emcees in Defari, MC Ren, KnocTurn’al, Xzibit and Hittman. It’s easily the best track on the second half of 2001 and deserves more recognition as a stellar deep cut in an album with more than a few of them.
Edd: “Bang Bang”
There are lots of choices here – “Housewife,” “Lets Get High,” but I’ll go with “Bang Bang.” Dre, Hittman and Knoc-turn’al (who I really thought was next up) have so much chemistry. But it’s the track’s commentary on Cali’s never-ending gun violence that really cements the deal. What could have been the usual gangsta posturing is actually a chilling account of life in a war zone. It’s a level of depth that’s too often overlooked.
2001 is crammed to the brim with features. Who went hardest?
Ronald: Eminem on “Forgot About Dre”
Tough call, but I’ll take Eminem on “Forgot About Dre.” Among so many memorable guest spots from Em, Snoop, Xzibit, Nate Dogg, Kurupt and more, Dre knew we’d be arguing years later over who had the top guest spot on 2001. But Em’s wrap up verse on “Forgot About Dre” takes the crown, followed by Kurupt’s opening verse on “Xxplosive” and X to the Z in third place with his verse on “What’s the Difference”. Em was in rare form since he knew he still had so much to prove on his own and as Dre’s protégé, and he brought every ounce of dark satire, disturbing comedy and Midwest rapid-fire flow to “Forgot About Dre.” In the process, he likely made everyone do a double take the first time they heard him dismantle the track.
Edd: Eminem on “Forgot About Dre”
Em was in his bag on “Forgot About Dre.” I know he’s an easy target for fans today, especially younger fans who missed out on his heyday, but this verse is a masterclass. From the metaphors, the breath control, the pacing, the imagery, the humor, it’s truly Marshall at his best. And that’s not even including this tongue-twisting hook, which took me forever to learn to recite in 2000. Em makes this rapping thing look so easy.
How does 2001 compare to its big brother, The Chronic?
Ronald: The Chronic is an institution and a landmark in hip-hop that stands tall with 90s albums that have earned their own mystique and lore: Illmatic, Ready to Die, Aquemini and The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, to name a few. By comparison, 2001 isn’t quite on that level. With The Chronic, it was the first time that any of us had been exposed to Snoop, live instrumentation on a hip-hop album or the overall concoction that would become known to a wider audience as G-Funk. It was something many of us weren’t expecting and were forever changed by. 2001 is undoubtedly one of the best hip-hop albums of 1999 and of the 90s period, but it’s not on The Chronic’s level, which was likely Dre’s intention anyway. I imagine he didn’t really want to duplicate what he did on the former and knew it was an impossible task. Even with 2001 not being on the level of The Chronic, it was still a memorable outing with classic tracks that we’re still bumping today. Unfortunately, it’s still overshadowed by The Chronic.
Edd: Let’s face facts – 2001 is a great album; if it dropped today, it would be my 2024 album of the year, no question. But when paired next to its predecessor, literally one of the greatest and most influential albums of ANY genre, it pales in comparison. 2001 doesn’t have the game changing influence of The Chronic, but let’s be real, very, VERY few albums can compare to that lofty legacy. As a follow up to one of the greatest albums ever, I remember some disappointment from fans that “it’s not Chronic good” (which is why I didn’t rush to get a copy in 1999). Sure, it’s not as stellar as what came before it, but that diminish all that 2001 does well – great production, a great showcase for a new generation of artists and a great comeback for an artist who had a few bumps in the road leading up to this.
Can we talk about the elephant in the room? Several of 2001’s tracks didn’t age very well in today’s climate. Has that hurt the albums’ legacy, or is it just a product of that time?
Ronald: To make it plain, as a fan, I must own up to the fact that not only did lots of the tracks on 2001 age very poorly, so did the imagery of the videos and the overall language, attitudes and behavior towards women, especially black women. I’m personally not going to take the route of saying 2001 was just a product of its time. As a 17-year-old high schooler, I fed right into the scantily clad, booty-shaking visuals of “Still D.R.E.” and “The Next Episode” and thought they were awesome. As I’ve grown, I’ve had to learn about and own up to the darker side of hip-hop that results in women being treated as objects for the purpose of making a music video look amazing to young, impressionable eyes and minds. I don’t think that hurts the albums’ legacy, but I do think that there’s a lot that we must grapple with and answer for as younger generations discover this and similar songs, videos, albums and other content.
Edd: Man listen. I’ll admit that, growing up a fan of hip-hop, I mostly turned a blind eye to its rampant misogyny. I knew it was wrong, I just wrote it off as “jokes,” assuming no one took the disrespect seriously. I mean it’s not like Dr. Dre would ACTUALLY do something to harm a woman in real life, right?
*cough*
By 1999, as female MCs like Lil Kim, Foxy Brown, Da Brat, Lauryn Hill and especially Missy Elliott became a bigger part of my fandom – along with me growing up into a decent adult who respects women – I became very weary of the “b’s ain’t ish” lyrics. It felt old and corny. And with 2024 ears, MAN, these songs don’t age well. “Housewife” for instance is a good song from a technical standpoint – it may have Dre’s best flow on the album – but it can be pretty cringe to sit through.
Here’s the thing about legacy – it represents both the past it emerged from, along with the future it currently resides in. It’s important to remember that 1999 was a much different era than 2024 – we all knew disrespecting women wasn’t good back then, but, sadly, it was more accepted. As fans, I think we must objectively weight all those sides – recognizing that music was good and shaped a generation, remembering that those controversial themes were more accepted back then, and also loudly calling out that disrespect today to ensure we don’t go back there.
“Your body, my choice?” Get out of my face with that incel garbage. We need to do better in 2024.
Where does 2001 rank among the best albums of the 90s?
Ronald: 2001 is a dope album and possibly in the Top 5 of 1999 for me, but I hesitate to rank it among my Top 20 albums of the entire decade. The thing about the 90s is that there was such a diversity of greatness that we were seeing from every corner of the country. Honestly, I can probably name at least 10-15 hip-hop albums from the 90s that are superior to 2001. But it was an unequivocal return to form for Dre after many of us thought he was done from the eggs that were laid with the Aftermath compilation and The Firm project. He dusted himself off, went back to basics, updated the formula for G-Funk success in a new era and made us all eat crow while nodding our heads in the process.
Edd: WELL, I did rank the best albums of the 90s – see for yourself – and it fell within the top 40. That may seem low, but when you consider just how incredibly stacked the 90s were with classic, impactful releases, that’s actually very high praise. It was the comeback album Dre needed, it was the necessary launching pad for emerging artists like Eminem and the production is still a benchmark today.
Where does 2001 rank among the best L.A. hip-hop albums of all time?
Ronald: I snuck this question in because just as there’s a huge diversity of classic 90s hip-hop albums, L.A. has a boatload of classics of a wide variety, and I’m interested to know what our fearless leader Ed thinks about where 2001 ranks among them. When you consider titles like Straight Outta Compton, The Chronic, Power, Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde, GKMC, Doggystyle, All Eyez on Me, The Documentary, AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted and more, the question gets tougher and tougher. Me myself personally, I’d place 2001 in my top 15 L.A. hip-hop albums of all time because of its sheer domination of radio and TV at the time and because no one could have reimagined and reworked G-Funk for a new era of hip-hop the way Dre did so superbly.
Edd: When you narrow the field down a bit, I think 2001 ranking pretty high among its West Coast brethren. While I wouldn’t put it above most of the albums Ron mentioned above (although I’d put it WAY above All Eyez on Me – but that’s a war for another day…) it’s still a very important piece of West Coast history. If anything, I think the biggest knock against 2001 is that it constantly resides in the shadow of The Chronic. But judged on its own merits, I think it’s a powerful – albeit controversial – piece of the West’s rap legacy. Unfairly forgotten but absolutely necessary.
Who got it right, Ron or Edd? Let us know below and share your memories of 2001 too.
Come on now, Compton is definitely not better than blue carpet, gkmc and big bang
compton is better than every album u listed save for the first 3
Come on now, Compton is definitely not better than blue carpet, gkmc and big bang
i literally had nightmares about this album last night
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yes it is
On big speakers sounds fucking crazy. Yall expecting ternage music again from people in their 60s. Yall needs the grow the fuck up.
On big speakers sounds fucking crazy. Yall expecting ternage music again from people in their 60s. Yall needs the grow the fuck up.
I bumped both 2001 and Streetz yesterday since it was the 25th anniversary of their release2001 spearheaded the best era of West coast hiphop.
now those CDs sound crazy on speakers
You keep bringing up Ice Cube. Not sure why? His post didn’t mention him.
is ice cubes new singles “teenage music”??
wtf does this even mean
I bumped both 2001 and Streetz yesterday since it was the 25th anniversary of their release
now those CDs sound crazy on speakers
You keep bringing up Ice Cube. Not sure why? His post didn’t mention him.
Anyways, I get what he was trying to say. And since you keep comparing Snoops new music with Dre to what Cube has put out. - there’s no chance in hell people would be loving Dre’s production if it sounded like Cubes first two singles. They are good, but Dre made those type of beats 25-30 years ago. And a better version of them.
So I’m glad he’s creating different shit and making new music that doesn’t sound like that era back then. I’m in my 40’s and don’t need to hear 50 year olds making worse versions of what they made in the 90’s. I’ll listen to the old shit if I’m in the mood for that now. The new snippets sound dope to me and I’m looking forward to hearing more of the album. I think it will be great, and it’s going to be well received from people outside of this board.
Tell you what to do? I wasn't even talking to you! You think o make a post and it's dedicated to you? Get your head out your ass and leave me alone potna! I was stating my opinion, it didn't warrant a response from you as it wasn't directed at you. But since you wanted my attention, you got it. If you want to be goofy and compare a 2024 release to a 1994 release do what floats your boat. Kinda retarded if you ask me but retarded does retarded shit I guess. You on here trying to argue with whoever you think will bite on your bullshit well you found the right one buddy. You on a forum upset about an single because I stated I liked it and you don't. Who loves a fuck what you dislike. I'm actually on and from the west coast and we lime the song over here so casually put these nutts in ya mouth you fuckin scumbag. Now I'm talking you what to do, leave me the fuck alone. You on here uptight, arguing with mothafuckas, why don't you log off and search your basement for you dildo so you can feel better and not be so uptight my guy.
I bumped both 2001 and Streetz yesterday since it was the 25th anniversary of their release
now those CDs sound crazy on speakers
This is also the reaction they expected, they have finished with such forums as these and the 90. Fans . With this album they want to show that they have finished with their old music, they are not interested in whether the album will be successful, it will also be the last thing that especially Dre has brought out of himself, end:D did Dre tell you that himself? The goal is & always will be to win! Dre said himself he scrapped Detox cause he wasn’t feeling it & couldn’t do it to his “fans”
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCdPY8PRHWe/?igsh=MTQxeTYybndzNWUwZA==
Hope renewed y’all! This sounds so fucking dope
Shut yo bitch ass up. Go jack off to some 90s hip hop and argue someone you can win the argument with mark. You from the westcoast? Fuck no, westcoast of Germany some shit. I know a poser when I read a poser's post. Eat a zip lock bags of dicks, diet it and go play on the freeway loser. Ya momma pathetic for letting yo daddy fertilize her rotten egg and have you. She gotta be suicidal to see what she gave birth to.
Got your feelings hurt? Why don’t you write me novel. I’m from the west coast too. What’s your point. Leaveee meee alonneee. I want to comment on these music forums in peace hahaha low life scumbag and you taking my sayings now too??? Pathetic
Shut yo bitch ass up. Go jack off to some 90s hip hop and argue someone you can win the argument with mark. You from the westcoast? Fuck no, westcoast of Germany some shit. I know a poser when I read a poser's post. Eat a zip lock bags of dicks, diet it and go play on the freeway loser. Ya momma pathetic for letting yo daddy fertilize her rotten egg and have you. She gotta be suicidal to see what she gave birth to.
i literally had nightmares about this album last night
:dead:
You from the westcoast? Fuck no, westcoast of Germany some shit.
Also to the puppets that keep saying … “they older now, they not making gangsta music, grow up” etc etc
STFU
With tracks entitled ‘Gunz N Smoke’ & ‘Gangsta Pose’ don’t really look like it’s not supposed to appeal to the fans who like gangsta shit!
And if it’s too 90’s for you here in 2024… go cry on social media cause you at the wrong place.
Also to the puppets that keep saying … “they older now, they not making gangsta music, grow up” etc etcThat's just them trying to appeal to everyone.
STFU
With tracks entitled ‘Gunz N Smoke’ & ‘Gangsta Pose’ don’t really look like it’s not supposed to appeal to the fans who like gangsta shit!
And if it’s too 90’s for you here in 2024… go cry on social media cause you at the wrong place.
You keep bringing up Ice Cube. Not sure why? His post didn’t mention him.
Anyways, I get what he was trying to say. And since you keep comparing Snoops new music with Dre to what Cube has put out. - there’s no chance in hell people would be loving Dre’s production if it sounded like Cubes first two singles. They are good, but Dre made those type of beats 25-30 years ago. And a better version of them.
So I’m glad he’s creating different shit and making new music that doesn’t sound like that era back then. I’m in my 40’s and don’t need to hear 50 year olds making worse versions of what they made in the 90’s. I’ll listen to the old shit if I’m in the mood for that now. The new snippets sound dope to me and I’m looking forward to hearing more of the album. I think it will be great, and it’s going to be well received from people outside of this board.
2001 is best sounding album in music history. All genres. I dont expect nothing but that on this snoops album. Lyrics and type of beats i dont care.
2001 was the best mixed rap album ever back then improving what Quik did a year earlier with Rhythmalism but with all the new tech there are better sounds right now. Dre's new stuff sounds better sonically if you just check the kicks alone. If you go back to 2001 some of the drums sound dated now to me and some of the sounds and synths used are starting to show their age. Storch used to love using workstation keyboards back then.
Don't get me wrong I think 2001 is massive. It made me want to make beats but I think Quincy Jones did a better job with Thriller.
give me those “dated” drums over these super crisp, thin sounding new age mixes we hearing ala “gorgeous”
live music has a thicker consistency to it.. it’s also why vinyl sounds so much more authentic than digital
Anyone have another way to hear the snippets? All I get ita blank picture on those posts. I especially want to hear that thank you snippet. Anyone know what project that is for? Thanks
give me those “dated” drums over these super crisp, thin sounding new age mixes we hearing ala “gorgeous”
live music has a thicker consistency to it.. it’s also why vinyl sounds so much more authentic than digital
I don’t understand people complaining in here? Those snippets all sound extremely fire. The Jelly Roll track and the Sting sample both sound dope as fuck and both like they could be huge hit records. Snoop sounds better than he has almost ever on these previews as well. Wtf is going on in here ??
Anyone have another way to hear the snippets? All I get ita blank picture on those posts. I especially want to hear that thank you snippet. Anyone know what project that is for? Thanks
I think Dre & Snoop missed a real opportunity not having Anderson Paak on the album especially if they're going for a more mature sound because AP can bring that with a more old school feeling. ETA was a good example of that and with these new track off Cordae's album which Anderson kills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK2kqW0_6Tg
I think Dre & Snoop missed a real opportunity not having Anderson Paak on the album especially if they're going for a more mature sound because AP can bring that with a more old school feeling. ETA was a good example of that and with these new track off Cordae's album which Anderson kills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK2kqW0_6Tg
Anyone have another way to hear the snippets? All I get ita blank picture on those posts. I especially want to hear that thank you snippet. Anyone know what project that is for? ThanksI feel like I'm using a Netscape browser every time I come to this site. I doesn't appear to have been updated since 2017.
I feel like I'm using a Netscape browser every time I come to this site. I doesn't appear to have been updated since 2017.
Also to the puppets that keep saying … “they older now, they not making gangsta music, grow up” etc etc
STFU
With tracks entitled ‘Gunz N Smoke’ & ‘Gangsta Pose’ don’t really look like it’s not supposed to appeal to the fans who like gangsta shit!
And if it’s too 90’s for you here in 2024… go cry on social media cause you at the wrong place.
I feel like I'm using a Netscape browser every time I come to this site. I doesn't appear to have been updated since 2017.
So what did I miss? Sccit hollered at me about the album, but why?
The album hasn't dropped, and all you guys are doing on here is complaining about the two songs that were released. Also, when I searched for the "new Snoop songs" all I got were a bunch of those fan made youtube joints.
So am I missing anything? If I'm missing something then let me know. If not, then wake me up when the album releases to ITunes.
(I will give it a chance on the strength of Snoop coming to his dog senses and supporting Trump and the possibility that Dre throwing up devil horns since 2020' doesn't mean he sold his soul, and the Marsha album was not an indication that he doesn't have it anymore)
Not exactly my cup of tea, but Snoop and Dre have two potentialI only heard 20 seconds of the Sting remake and it’s been in my head since
massive hits on their hands with the Sting and Jelly Roll songs.
If there’s two things the average music fan likes right now, it’s lazy 80’s/90s remakes and Jelly Roll
I only heard 20 seconds of the Sting remake and it’s been in my head since
Are you runnin' a Windows 95 in your machine?
I get a white space for where the IG post/video is suppose to be. It's not the browser, it's the site. The same way it won't show the video for various video platforms when you post a link from the site. Other forums have this function. The code has to be updated in order to read and encode the video.
kinda weird because all the youtube n instagram videos should be workin unless your browser has em blocked
no different from the coli
I think my browser joke went past you guys but it's ok.I get a white space for where the IG post/video is suppose to be. It's not the browser, it's the site. The same way it won't show the video for various video platforms when you post a link from the site. Other forums have this function. The code has to be updated in order to read and encode the video.
Ah no, my browser has been updated since 2017, this site hasn't been. I'm not the only one saying it. Someone else said it and I was saying that I was having the same issue.
it’s obviously not the site considering everyone else can see the videos lol
clear your browsing history and try again
should work :)
Ah no, my browser has been updated since 2017, this site hasn't been. I'm not the only one saying it. Someone else said it and I was saying that I was having the same issue.
Ah no, my browser has been updated since 2017, this site hasn't been. I'm not the only one saying it. Someone else said it and I was saying that I was having the same issue.
Hoping “Thank You” makes it as a bonus or ends up on another project instead of getting stuck in demo land.
Actually, if Dre n’ Snoop want to thank their longtime fans, they need to put The Next Episode OG and Hoe Hopper out. If they can’t legally release iit, then put it online. It’ll never happen but I think the fans have waited long enough!
What song is that ? Thank you was it a leak ?
Me too. Kinda undeniable. I don’t wanna like it but I can’t help it
The Next Episode OG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh6CV400FUw
The Hoe Hopper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHFOJJMgXZU
The Next Episode OG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh6CV400FUw
The Hoe Hopper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHFOJJMgXZU
They gave us next episode. Milion times better than this.
They gave us next episode. Milion times better than this.
Dre fell off after Storch and Elizondo left but Dem Jointz is an all time low ..
has nothing to do wit storch and elizando .. he made classic soundin dre shit wit khalil during the detox era. and had some top tier stuff wit dem jointz on compton
the fall off coincides with his divorce and brain aneurysm
if this was prime dre, he would be bangin out timeless classix regardless of his team
Dre fell off after Storch and Elizondo left but Dem Jointz is an all time low ..dre literally levelled up after 2001 album with his new aftermath team of mark batson, dawaun parker, trev lawrence, dj khalil, jake one, just blaze, focus, mr porter, hitek, nottz etc and scott/mike were still around periodically from 03 to 11 lmfao. it was dem jointz and those new bums that ruined him.
has nothing to do wit storch and elizando .. he made classic soundin dre shit wit khalil during the detox era. and had some top tier stuff wit dem jointz on comptonNah, Dre's all time low was 2018 when he made those Oxnard beats and it was before his divorce. His sound has actually improved now
the fall off coincides with his divorce and brain aneurysm
if this was prime dre, he would be bangin out timeless classix regardless of his team
has nothing to do wit storch and elizando .. he made classic soundin dre shit wit khalil during the detox era. and had some top tier stuff wit dem jointz on compton
the fall off coincides with his divorce and brain aneurysm
if this was prime dre, he would be bangin out timeless classix regardless of his team
Maybe I don’t remember correctly, but I don’t think Dem Jointz has much production on Compton…maybe three songs? And those certainly weren’t classic sounding (the best one he did was Satisfaction )
Nah, Dre's all time low was 2018 when he made those Oxnard beats and it was before his divorce. His sound has actually improved now
Maybe I don’t remember correctly, but I don’t think Dem Jointz has much production on Compton…maybe three songs? And those certainly weren’t classic sounding (the best one he did was Satisfaction )
Yeah it was dope, but Dre-produced joints (Left to right, mansa musa, who r u) were the weakest songs on it imo
oxnard was a really dope album
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCdrxQmvwVr/?igsh=aXpxdXllZ3BvY25j
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCdrxQmvwVr/?igsh=aXpxdXllZ3BvY25j
Yeah it was dope, but Dre-produced joints (Left to right, mansa musa, who r u) were the weakest songs on it imo
^^ this sounds pretty fuccin legit right therem
Two totally different songs. I love both tracks, but don’t tell me Snoop isn’t so much better in the OG
This thread is so bloated it’s now got 2 pages of you guys talking about someone’s internet browser being dated and how he needs to clear a cache
I think the main problem with the new Dre production is that he's lost his trademark sound. Mixing is still on top level, but the beats are cerebral, the drums are often kind of weak, especially compared to the 2001 and Parker, Batson and co. eras, when almost every beat sounded very powerful. The drums were banging, the simple piano loops or synth elements were on point.
Now the beats often have far too many elements, the drums sound weak (this is probably where Dem Jointz comes in), there is no high recognition value in contrast to any(!) other of his trademark eras. The sound doesn't sound like a further development to me, but like a blatant break in style. That's probably the main problem. At least for me.
Nevertheless, he has shown in recent years that he can still produce music that is reminiscent of the past, but somehow represents a further development: Eminem's ‘Lock it up’ and ‘Lucifer’, HARDY's ‘Gin & Juice’, Marsha's ‘Smoke’ or ‘Greedy’. I hope ‘Missionary’ will go in this direction.
In the end, it's very bitter that the Parker, Batson, Trevor Lawrence Jr. era in the form of Relapse only resulted in one album produced entirely by Dre, whereas we've now got the third ICU album since 2015 - I count ‘Compton’ as one of them, even if he didn't produce every track. But I'm not complaining, I'm still really looking forward to ‘Missionary’.
I think the main problem with the new Dre production is that he's lost his trademark sound. Mixing is still on top level, but the beats are cerebral, the drums are often kind of weak, especially compared to the 2001 and Parker, Batson and co. eras, when almost every beat sounded very powerful. The drums were banging, the simple piano loops or synth elements were on point.
Now the beats often have far too many elements, the drums sound weak (this is probably where Dem Jointz comes in), there is no high recognition value in contrast to any(!) other of his trademark eras. The sound doesn't sound like a further development to me, but like a blatant break in style. That's probably the main problem. At least for me.
Nevertheless, he has shown in recent years that he can still produce music that is reminiscent of the past, but somehow represents a further development: Eminem's ‘Lock it up’ and ‘Lucifer’, HARDY's ‘Gin & Juice’, Marsha's ‘Smoke’ or ‘Greedy’. I hope ‘Missionary’ will go in this direction.
In the end, it's very bitter that the Parker, Batson, Trevor Lawrence Jr. era in the form of Relapse only resulted in one album produced entirely by Dre, whereas we've now got the third ICU album since 2015 - I count ‘Compton’ as one of them, even if he didn't produce every track. But I'm not complaining, I'm still really looking forward to ‘Missionary’.
Yeah it was dope, but Dre-produced joints (Left to right, mansa musa, who r u) were the weakest songs on it imoThis is accurate. The Dre tracks on that Paak album are the worst songs on the album.
I think the main problem with the new Dre production is that he's lost his trademark sound. Mixing is still on top level, but the beats are cerebral, the drums are often kind of weak, especially compared to the 2001 and Parker, Batson and co. eras, when almost every beat sounded very powerful. The drums were banging, the simple piano loops or synth elements were on point.Lol this is such a good point.
Now the beats often have far too many elements, the drums sound weak (this is probably where Dem Jointz comes in), there is no high recognition value in contrast to any(!) other of his trademark eras. The sound doesn't sound like a further development to me, but like a blatant break in style. That's probably the main problem. At least for me.
Nevertheless, he has shown in recent years that he can still produce music that is reminiscent of the past, but somehow represents a further development: Eminem's ‘Lock it up’ and ‘Lucifer’, HARDY's ‘Gin & Juice’, Marsha's ‘Smoke’ or ‘Greedy’. I hope ‘Missionary’ will go in this direction.
In the end, it's very bitter that the Parker, Batson, Trevor Lawrence Jr. era in the form of Relapse only resulted in one album produced entirely by Dre, whereas we've now got the third ICU album since 2015 - I count ‘Compton’ as one of them, even if he didn't produce every track. But I'm not complaining, I'm still really looking forward to ‘Missionary’.
I think the main problem with the new Dre production is that he's lost his trademark sound. Mixing is still on top level, but the beats are cerebral, the drums are often kind of weak, especially compared to the 2001 and Parker, Batson and co. eras, when almost every beat sounded very powerful. The drums were banging, the simple piano loops or synth elements were on point.
Now the beats often have far too many elements, the drums sound weak (this is probably where Dem Jointz comes in), there is no high recognition value in contrast to any(!) other of his trademark eras. The sound doesn't sound like a further development to me, but like a blatant break in style. That's probably the main problem. At least for me.
Nevertheless, he has shown in recent years that he can still produce music that is reminiscent of the past, but somehow represents a further development: Eminem's ‘Lock it up’ and ‘Lucifer’, HARDY's ‘Gin & Juice’, Marsha's ‘Smoke’ or ‘Greedy’. I hope ‘Missionary’ will go in this direction.
In the end, it's very bitter that the Parker, Batson, Trevor Lawrence Jr. era in the form of Relapse only resulted in one album produced entirely by Dre, whereas we've now got the third ICU album since 2015 - I count ‘Compton’ as one of them, even if he didn't produce every track. But I'm not complaining, I'm still really looking forward to ‘Missionary’.
dre literally levelled up after 2001 album with his new aftermath team of mark batson, dawaun parker, trev lawrence, dj khalil, jake one, just blaze, focus, mr porter, hitek, nottz etc and scott/mike were still around periodically from 03 to 11 lmfao. it was dem jointz and those new bums that ruined him.
Relapse was very important album for both Eminem and Dre.
Dre realised that his type of production is outdated and he has to change it.
Eminem also realised that he need to find new producers to work with because Dre is not able to catch the current or future at that moment.
I still fuck with some relapse songs but that album was a deception point for everybody to realise "they cant do it like this anymore".
Relapse was very important album for both Eminem and Dre.And that's very ironic given that in the end Relapse has aged infinitely better than every album Em has put out after that. That's crazy how Recovery sounded so current and much more modern than Relapse back in 2010 and how outdated it sounds now, while Relapse sounds exactly like it did on the day it came out.
Dre realised that his type of production is outdated and he has to change it.
Eminem also realised that he need to find new producers to work with because Dre is not able to catch the current or future at that moment.
I still fuck with some relapse songs but that album was a deception point for everybody to realise "they cant do it like this anymore".
Most of the beats were dope , Eminem just ruined "them" with his stupid accentAgreed. Production was top notch on Relapse.
Most of the beats were dope , Eminem just ruined "them" with his stupid accent
Agreed. Production was top notch on Relapse.
he probably wasn't used to rapping soberAgreed. The GTA release stuff a few years ago missed the mark for me. It was mediocre at best. I have low expectations for this album and thats sad because we have been waiting for this album from these two forever.
same...the production on Relapse is probably Dre's best work in the last 15 years
Agreed. The GTA release stuff a few years ago missed the mark for me. It was mediocre at best. I have low expectations for this album and thats sad because we have been waiting for this album from these two forever.
Relapse was very important album for both Eminem and Dre.
Dre realised that his type of production is outdated and he has to change it.
Eminem also realised that he need to find new producers to work with because Dre is not able to catch the current or future at that moment.
I still fuck with some relapse songs but that album was a deception point for everybody to realise "they cant do it like this anymore".
yet relapse is better than any album em has released since thenLargely because of the production. The accent is stupid and hard to ignore.
wowzers
yet relapse is better than any album em has released since then
wowzers
Largely because of the production. The accent is stupid and hard to ignore.
PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR IF YOU DGAF !! DRE 2024 on that sting song lmaoHaha yeah that was probably not necessary
Haha yeah that was probably not necessary
Most of the beats were dope , Eminem just ruined "them" with his stupid accentIt was a concept album. He's spitting from the prospective of a serial killer when he uses the accents. That's why songs like Beautiful and De Ja Vu didn't have the accents because he's rapping as Eminem. It was just him being in character.
Was that live, or part of the track? Totally unnecessary as you say.I think I just read on here that Dre said that track was a demo, but haven’t actually seen any footage of him saying this. It seems odd to me that they would be previewing a demo track on drink champs while promoting the album.
In other new, I saw a different snippet of that thank you “demo” and Snoop flowin his ass off. Hopefully it makes an expanded edition or something
I think I just read on here that Dre said that track was a demo, but haven’t actually seen any footage of him saying this. It seems odd to me that they would be previewing a demo track on drink champs while promoting the album.
Yeah i watched that part that he says its a demo and he is not done with it yet. it is a mystery where that song will take place. missionary deluxe or another project. but i loved the joint.Damn! The track sounded great and would be brutal if it didn’t get released. Still find it weird they would preview it at a promotional even for Missionary if it wasn’t attached to the project somehow.
What demo are y'all talking about that didn't make the album? Can someone direct me to the snippet?
Fuck it, i want Snoop's next single with Taylor Swift on the hook, Billionaire Dre can afford it.
eminem still spittin … the accents are a bit over the top but i prefer it to lyrical miracle hippity hop eminem
I agree that hes still spittin.. I don't understand the people that are saying he fell off. There are a lot of new Eminem verses that are on par with his old shit or better. The verse on Medicine Man and Best Friend for example had my face twisted.
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You like all three tracks? I’m definitely feeling each one
It was a concept album. He's spitting from the prospective of a serial killer when he uses the accents. That's why songs like Beautiful and De Ja Vu didn't have the accents because he's rapping as Eminem. It was just him being in character.
yeah but did he have to be a serial killer from Ireland or Scotland?
Can’t believe they went with this as the second released track. But god damn I love hearing Snoop and Dre go back and forth/ that alone makes the track almost listenable.
Nah they have both lost it, Dre sounded bored, the beat is annoying and over mixed with that last crying on the whole track, I think this is the end of them, he gave up with detox and now we get this, it’s not for the new fans or the old ones
I honestly believe it will be
Watch this be the worst song on the album
Sounds nothing like a Dre production. Why isn't there someone who tells them not to release this on the album? It's simply not good enough. It would have been okay if they put it on the Madden soundtrack for streaming and to give the fans more music, but this is not album material - especially not for a Dre and Snoop album.
But I also think that it's just kind of a street single without a video. I hope they are going to release a banger as the first real single with big budget video in the coming weeks. The album needs it, "Georgeous" and "Outta da Blue" isn't what most people expect of a Dre and Snoop album.
I’m not sure it’s going to appease the hardcore fans, but I’m willing to bet Last Dance with Mary Jane featuring Jelly Roll will be the big single release…it’s just undeniable on a commercial level.
Whether you want to hear it or not, the thing has more positive reviews on the internet than gorgeous. Gen Z finds it fire
Who could guess that a k-pop producer were going to finish Dre's career... this is incredible.
(https://imgmedia.larepublica.pe/675x391/larepublica/original/2022/05/09/62798f1b3e075d33fd76bc14.webp)
And now to you, Dre and his ICU team got a Grammy for the Kobe trailer, Eminem's album was this year the most successful in his career prod. by Dr.Dre and ICU also Dem Jointz, in the summer Marsha Ambrosius, now the Snoop and Dre album all with the participation of Dem Jointz, and you say career ended, that I don't laugh
Em's new album is his most succesful album of his career? Hahahahha. You are funny. I wont even discuss it. Also you said ICU produced the album? Only 4 songs produced by icu as i know. One of them is an interlude type of shit. I mean "trouble".Check first before you open your mouth here
They got grammy for kobe trailer?? Its just marketing and power of interscope. They did a california love cover and put some kobe videos and get a grammy??? Who arranged that made up shit?
Casablanco? They didnt even promote it. Also its not a big deal. Jazz hip hop fusion shit couldnt get anybody's attention.
Check first before you open your mouth here
yeah but did he have to be a serial killer from Ireland or Scotland?Haha for real! The production wins me over though. Never really heard Dre stick to a theme thought the whole album for an artist like he did with the horrocore shit with Relapse. Every beat sounds like it could've been on a horror film
I'm pretty sure it will be the same for Outta Da Blue, it has a great kill the party vibe
Was wondering what OUTTA DA BLUE would sound like without Alus/vocal sample in the background. Made it in 5 minutes, don't like the quality at all...but..this would have been better 100%
https://mega.nz/file/Fohg0LpL#8V9wsnc3YyPzl6y-6VzC4rIYohiiJihDA_L1-1Kvw_w
I've realized that Gorgeous was well received outside of this forum. I'm pretty sure it will be the same for Outta Da Blue, it has a great party vibe
I like listening dre and snoop rapping back and forth. So i would like to listen it on a decent catchy smart production.
Which forums are those?
If your co producer is a K-Pop producer, thats what happens.This is honestly makes zero sense
The street! And every other social media outlets. This album is also anticipated now.
The street! And every other social media outlets. This album is also anticipated now.It’s true. I don’t love Outta Da Blue either but this album is highly anticipated everywhere and people outside of the DubCc are liking the two songs released
Hahaha. Fuck gen z then.
I wish Eazy was still about, so he could tell the bitch in the back-groud singing on 'Outta Da Blue' to shut the fuck up.
It's best not to let any discussions with this Jay j he gives his disrespectful comments in several forums, even in official accounts with Icu has ended Dres career and fuck off, he behaves outside of dubcc disrespectfully he should be locked here
outta da blue is just a compton style rip off of kida - holla from 15 years ago lmao. https://kida.bandcamp.com/track/21-holla-remix-feat-busta-rhymes-little-brother-kurupt-crooked-i-talib-kweli-jay-rock-willie-b-produced-by-seige
people saying sampling police for another part of me is lazy but atleast the song sounds decent. dre has been approving these boring flips by the icu for too long. marsha album was just od on bland flips of countless nas songs lol.
Not to like something or hate somebody is not disrespectful, its opinion you idiot.
By the way Dont forget to write my name with big letters on your suicide note. I'd appriciate that. ;D
Fuck ICU one more time. (Except of Fredwreck)
Snoop is not happy. Seems like he doesn’t like the track that much. Check his last instagram post
I am not sure at this point that Snoop, Dre or others even care about their legacy. They have done so much they probably say hell.. music doesn't even sell much anymore.. I mean how much does an artist like Snoop/Dre even make off a album like this anymore?If they don't care about legacy or selling records, they should be making music for their hardcore fan base.
I'm not a fan of Outta Da Blue much and I am hopeful the rest of the album hits. I'm a big fan but just don't think they give a $hit.
The clips I heard for the Tom Petty and Sting tracks seem to just be rapping over classic tracks. I hope I am wrong.
Never thought I would say this but I am feeling Out da Blue.. its kinda dope 8)
If it gets a dope video they may just have something
huh?
he’s literally vibin out to it in the whip
fuck u on??
yeah but did he have to be a serial killer from Ireland or Scotland?
I'm not disappointed with anything I've heard off this album. I'm excited to get a really good new snoop album. I know the quality is there. I've kept expectations pretty low. I've been playing Gorgeous A LOT, my kids are even getting annoyed with me. The album will be the best Snoop album in a loooooooong time. What else can we ask for?
I was 10 or 11 when Doggystyle came out. We all dubbed it off each other in elementary school. Everyone at school knew the album. I was 16 when 2001 came out. You couldn't go to a house party without seeing a dozen of these cd's laying around the stereo. These were big social albums that all our friends knew. Even non-rap fans knew these albums. It was a different time. We all associate these albums with these fun times in our lives. Now I'm over 40. I'm gonna stream Missionary on my way to work (I'm still gonna play it loud). Most people I know listen to country music now. I couldn't care less if this gets radio play. I haven't listened to the radio in years. I don't care if this gets played in the clubs. I don't go to clubs anymore. Dre and Snoop's fans aren't kids anymore. This album can't be as big as the old ones were. Young people don't care. Old people are old.
I'm not disappointed with anything I've heard off this album. I'm excited to get a really good new snoop album. I know the quality is there. I've kept expectations pretty low. I've been playing Gorgeous A LOT, my kids are even getting annoyed with me. The album will be the best Snoop album in a loooooooong time. What else can we ask for?
I was 10 or 11 when Doggystyle came out. We all dubbed it off each other in elementary school. Everyone at school knew the album. I was 16 when 2001 came out. You couldn't go to a house party without seeing a dozen of these cd's laying around the stereo. These were big social albums that all our friends knew. Even non-rap fans knew these albums. It was a different time. We all associate these albums with these fun times in our lives. Now I'm over 40. I'm gonna stream Missionary on my way to work (I'm still gonna play it loud). Most people I know listen to country music now. I couldn't care less if this gets radio play. I haven't listened to the radio in years. I don't care if this gets played in the clubs. I don't go to clubs anymore. Dre and Snoop's fans aren't kids anymore. This album can't be as big as the old ones were. Young people don't care. Old people are old.
I'm not disappointed with anything I've heard off this album. I'm excited to get a really good new snoop album. I know the quality is there. I've kept expectations pretty low. I've been playing Gorgeous A LOT, my kids are even getting annoyed with me. The album will be the best Snoop album in a loooooooong time. What else can we ask for?
I was 10 or 11 when Doggystyle came out. We all dubbed it off each other in elementary school. Everyone at school knew the album. I was 16 when 2001 came out. You couldn't go to a house party without seeing a dozen of these cd's laying around the stereo. These were big social albums that all our friends knew. Even non-rap fans knew these albums. It was a different time. We all associate these albums with these fun times in our lives. Now I'm over 40. I'm gonna stream Missionary on my way to work (I'm still gonna play it loud). Most people I know listen to country music now. I couldn't care less if this gets radio play. I haven't listened to the radio in years. I don't care if this gets played in the clubs. I don't go to clubs anymore. Dre and Snoop's fans aren't kids anymore. This album can't be as big as the old ones were. Young people don't care. Old people are old.
I agree with most of this. People always resonate to their "Coming of Age" music years. All of us do it. I still get chills listening to 2001 like I did back when I was 14 when it came out. It brings me back to those years. As I have gotten older I have viewed music as a situational thing and my horizons have broadened. When I was younger I used to exclusively to listen to rap. Now I enjoy good music in general from all genres. That also includes some country music as well. Chris Stapleton slaps. lol.I agree with all of this and couldn’t have said it any better. I’ve got a playlist for every genre on my phone, even a playlist for my 3 year old. I’ve probably listened to as much Sharon Louis and Braham and Raffi as I have Snoop and Dre in the past year or so. You better believe I’m looking forward to this Snoop album LOL!!
I was also 11 when Doggystyle came out. My brother got it for me for Christmas 1993 and it was actually my favorite Christmas present of all time. I got my first CD Player and my very first CD was Doggystyle. It felt like the first time I ever could control what I could listen to instead of waiting for a song on radio, hearing it, and then it disappears. I was the only kid my age with parents who allowed the album, so all the kids in the neighborhood wanted to come to my house to hear it.
I had 3 big revelations listening to the album...
--The first came one lazy weekend day, I think it was raining outside but I had nothing to do. So I was just looking through the liner notes and listening to the album and it was the first time in my life I became aware of "album cuts". Like these tracks that were huge bangers but never made it to radio. Because as a kid you only know what plays on the radio. So my first time really getting into "The Shiznit" blew my mind it was like a real life superhero, I imagined Snoop really was an outlaw gangsta--hiding out in the hood and escaping the law.
--Second big revelation came one morning getting ready for school. I always skipped "Ain't No Fun" because it sounded strange to me like it was a skit or something. I didn't realize they were being "ironic" by presenting a very simplistic sort of upbeat corny love song, but it was actually a gangsta track about bitches and hoes and shit like that.. It was almost like a big comedy record and became a neighborhood hit sort of like the Jerky Boys or other shit you used to listen to as kids just to hear cause words and sexual content for the first time.
--Third big revelation staying over at my best friends house, staging boxing matches all night we just let the album play front to back, front to back, front to back with no skips. It was that night I lost to my friend Adam in a controversial split decision match, that I realized the cd could just play front to back any song, no need to skip.
Represents a lot of firsts for me. Album also was instructions on how to mack a bitch, I was in 6th grade and had my first real kiss with a 7th grade jr high girl at the movie theatres. She taught me everything, but I'm not sure I would have had the balls at 11-12 years of age had I not been hyped up on Snoop and even later that night Snoop was performing "Lodi Dodi" on Saturday Night Live
The more and more I struggle with this new sound, the more I start to understand I was the same way when 2001 came out. It was an adjustment from Dre's earlier work and being overseas at the time with my parents i was not exposed to a lot of music "in between" the big album releases. So it was more of a shock to me how different 2001 was to his earlier work. Only time will tell if this new sound will grow on me. But it goes to show how bad rap music must be right now if there is mostly a positive response to this song outside of this forum.
you’re an outlier because most people loved 2001 immediately
I'm not disappointed with anything I've heard off this album. I'm excited to get a really good new snoop album. I know the quality is there. I've kept expectations pretty low. I've been playing Gorgeous A LOT, my kids are even getting annoyed with me. The album will be the best Snoop album in a loooooooong time. What else can we ask for?
I was 10 or 11 when Doggystyle came out. We all dubbed it off each other in elementary school. Everyone at school knew the album. I was 16 when 2001 came out. You couldn't go to a house party without seeing a dozen of these cd's laying around the stereo. These were big social albums that all our friends knew. Even non-rap fans knew these albums. It was a different time. We all associate these albums with these fun times in our lives. Now I'm over 40. I'm gonna stream Missionary on my way to work (I'm still gonna play it loud). Most people I know listen to country music now. I couldn't care less if this gets radio play. I haven't listened to the radio in years. I don't care if this gets played in the clubs. I don't go to clubs anymore. Dre and Snoop's fans aren't kids anymore. This album can't be as big as the old ones were. Young people don't care. Old people are old.
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Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre featuring ALUS – “Outta Da Blue”
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As the release date for Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre‘s collaborative album, Missionary, looms closer and closer, the iconic tandem serve music fiends another tester with “Outta Da Blue,” a bouncy jam that matches true school fundamentals with new school sensibilities.
Taking a back-and-forth approach ala Jadakiss and Styles P, Tha Doggfather and Dre brandish their veteran status and penchant for “bottles and bi**es,” good smoke, and assigned seating in the lap of luxury.
“See, reaching these type of heights, it come with a third eye/ I’m better at betting on me, the numbers don’t lie,” Hip-Hop’s resident Doc boasts, as he serves double duty, manning the mic and the boards.
While the instrumental borders on disjointed amid its varying moving parts, the track never loses its footing, as the dynamic duo keep the buzz regarding Missionary‘s arrival at a fever pitch with this latest loosie.
Maybe that “demo” track is from a new Dre album.
Shit is ugly man. That hook on thank you; Outta da blue.
Gorgeous is a nice track.
The Sting and Jelly Roll tracks sound promising and funky.
Westcoast is flushing with shit; Cube album is mwa only 2-3 dope beats, Kendrick: cant stand that overly done delivery; makes me tired listening to that. Dpg album sounds rushed; all filler; maybe 1-2 good tracks.
On the other hand i dont care About the west in particular; just want good funk no matter where its from.
Eastsidaz EP still dope though.
There is a beat playing throughout the trailer for the drinks champs episode on Nore’s IG that sounds very classic Dre’ish that I have not heard before. Does anyone have info on that beat? I don’t remember how to insert those videos on this forum, I’m old and washed up on DubCc nowadays
not better...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t_1bWLdAmp8?si=xqSu6YCAOc8CzEzb
this is the hardest thing i’ve heard from missionary thus far
If this is a ‘missionary’ beat, it's definitely going in the right direction.
It is indeed a dope beat, but I don't think it's from Missionary (just my opinion).
I very much hope i'm wrong, as it would be interesting how Snoop would sound over it!
Not from Missionary? Then why is is soundtracking the Drink Champs interview?
Check the sample - Watermelon Fantasy - Daylight Studio.
hopefully the album has something you can bump your head to because right now it's sounding like a bunch of yes-men and we'll be lucky to get a few great tracks.well said, dr Dre has ruined his legacy
unthinkable really but then came Outta Da Blue which is possibly the worst track Dre has ever put out. the beat is horrendous, just the fact it made the album and they're actually pushing the song. nothing is off the table as far as quality goes.
I'm not saying it's definitely not from Missionary, it's just my opinion that I don't think it is (I very much hope it is as it sounds dope).
It very much has hallmarks of Still DRE with the hard drum beat and the same trombone melody.
Dre and the label seem to be very strict when it comes to officially releasing the snippets of the album
They dropped a small snippet of Gorgeous on the Missionary ad, but that was a proper official ad, so and it would be strange imo for them to release the beat from the album like this.
I would have thought they would of kept this gem under wraps so it will be a good surprise for those who will listen to the album for the first time.
Like I said, i hope i completely wrong and it is on the album!
hopefully the album has something you can bump your head to because right now it's sounding like a bunch of yes-men and we'll be lucky to get a few great tracks.I wouldn't say it's the worst ever, Dre has some records worse than that, but yeah.
unthinkable really but then came Outta Da Blue which is possibly the worst track Dre has ever put out. the beat is horrendous, just the fact it made the album and they're actually pushing the song. nothing is off the table as far as quality goes.
Also it's hilarious that some of yall thought that beat was from Missionary lmao. This sounds like youtube fanmade remix of Still Dre, it's crazy that yall can't tell a real from a fake
"Outta da blue" sounds like everything we hate about Compton.Nah, it's worse
"Outta da blue" sounds like everything we hate about Compton.
Also it's hilarious that some of yall thought that beat was from Missionary lmao. This sounds like youtube fanmade remix of Still Dre, it's crazy that yall can't tell a real from a fake
Surely we are expecting better than this?
"Outta da blue" sounds like everything we hate about Compton.
outta da blue doesn’t sound anything like compton bro LOL
I think dre needs to ride this new west coast sound but with his twist, and adding shit. Yg, kendrick, mustard type beats, even tyga. But with dres touch. I think that he is trying too much. He is too cinematic. Thats is not bad, i like cinematic beats like he did on bustas bing bang track with Nas. That is right direction. Right now it is too much.
he said he is trying to bring musicianship back in an interview. he think thats where rap music will evolve in close future.
what he means with musicianship is live instruments and different type of drums.
"gorgeous" is a good example of it but its an average song.
it sounds like a combination of "genocide", "for the love of money", "satisfaction"... you dont even have to listen closely, just try to remember.
i still think that they are reducing expectations before they hit the world with their best song they are keeping.
on the other hand, i am thinking if outta da blue is the worst song on the album, which song would it be comparable from 2001 album? ackrite?
there is no song as bad as outta da blue or gorgeous on 2001.
we still don’t know where it’s from …. but it’s the sound that we’re looking for. whether its properly layered or sonically on point is hard to tell when listening through a phone. however, it definitely has the 2001 sound, which is better than what we’ve heard thus far.
Yeah there are no comparable tracks on 2001 that album is a front to back classic no skips
All but 1. Can't be bumping the album loud then you're in another room and Pause 4 Porno comes on haha. I don't listen to the physical anymore due to that. I just replace it in a playlist with the instrumental track which arguably fits better too.
exactly what i do also
2001 is great album no doubt, it changed the game, created a New type of funk and proved all Dre doubters at the time wrong. Every sound on it is effective. But I rarely bump that album. It got played out pretty fast.
Big ego’s is the only track that stays heavy in rotation (the watcher and forgot About Dre stay dope as well)
Big Bang, the Firm, Last meal are semi-Dre produced albums that have more replay value for me (offcourse if you skip certain tracks).
For me Dre can win a lot in the music game if he produces a grown up easy to listen to future funk album that Bumps, no gangsta gangbang baggy bandana dumb shit, but gangster/business/player/familyman wise content, that you can even play in presence of your parents, wife, friends, colleagues, family and kids on a house party and in the ride.
All but 1. Can't be bumping the album loud then you're in another room and Pause 4 Porno comes on haha. I don't listen to the physical anymore due to that. I just replace it in a playlist with the instrumental track which arguably fits better too.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7z42sSxeQcA?si=5AUg_yukOV_ut2hhGuess this was from a Jelly Roll show and not Snoops upcoming Amazon show.
Snoop and Jelly Roll live Last Dance with Marry Jane
Jelly Roll, Snoop Dogg Spark Up a Blunt Onstage in Nashville
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The pair also performed a new song set to be featured on Snoop's upcoming album Missionary
November 27, 2024
Jelly Roll brought out surprise guest Snoop Dogg during his Bridgestone Arena show in Nashville.
Snoop Dogg made a surprise appearance at Jelly Roll‘s Beautifully Broken Tour stop at the Bridgestone Arena in Nashville Tuesday night, joining the country star to debut a collaboration off Snoop’s upcoming album Missionary.
The song, “Last Dance With Mary Jane,” interpolates Tom Petty’s 1993 classic “Mary Jane’s Last Dance,” and unsurprisingly reflects Snoop’s longtime affinity for marijuana. Jelly takes a verse of his own on the song while also singing the chorus featured on Petty’s original version.
After finishing the performance, Snoop took out a blunt and lighter, and walked back over to Jelly to share with him. “Oh he’s lighting a fresh one,” Jelly said before he and Snoop both took a few puffs onstage.
Snoop performed several of his own songs before debuting the Jelly Roll collab too, including his classics “Drop It Like It’s Hot,” “Gin and Juice,” and “Next Episode.”
“Last Dance With Mary Jane” will release with the rest of Missionary on Dec. 13. Other artists featured on the Dr. Dre-produced project include Eminem, 50 Cent, and Jhené Aiko among others.
Guess this was from a Jelly Roll show and not Snoops upcoming Amazon show.
Nonetheless this track sounds fucking sick and can’t wait to hear the album version. Wish it was longer with another verse from Snoop on it tho.
Agreed- another Snoop verse needed.
Agreed- another Snoop verse needed. Maybe there is on the album? Anyway, they definitely tryin for a big hit with this one…Unfortunately I don’t think there is a second Snoop verse and this will be a reoccurring theme on the album. The track lengths are listed on Apple and I think there is only 1-2 tracks that hit the 4 minute mark on the entire project. Lots of 2-3 minute songs on there which is disappointing considering how good Snoop is going to be on it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7z42sSxeQcA?si=5AUg_yukOV_ut2hhMan that sounds so generic and terrible 3 strikes and Im out
Snoop and Jelly Roll live Last Dance with Marry Jane
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7z42sSxeQcA?si=5AUg_yukOV_ut2hh
Snoop and Jelly Roll live Last Dance with Marry Jane
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7z42sSxeQcA?si=5AUg_yukOV_ut2hh
Snoop and Jelly Roll live Last Dance with Marry Jane
just preordered the CD from AmazonDon’t know why but when the album was first announced I first imagined the Joe cool Snoop in a robe with Dre preaching as a missionary converting the masses with their music. I suppose similar to the welcome to tha chuuch cover like an updated one. Didn’t think they would go with the obvious simple sex angle.
https://www.amazon.com/Missionary-Snoop-Dogg/dp/B0DLH53ZLZ/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._ZjGcfLswsQgwmSRg6A1DiIrLqPORzYx1XTNQkHB7a1qwdY_JqIxmg6SCzLiEuaFcOP6hgNPYQBmywW1nLq5wdFh_iaeJtIMMNWx0tbd7R5wPJ2VgZTPCifAhcqKmHQf3fn9jn-KS8OSoNn-4fICdieN1MUhw4wG9znvarBv_uAUkrT7dQLKM0D8AoSFXeX1COZlU8dr3_czbL-PlUC5-C1ddubgAXrObMK8nYwu-Pg.ygoIZQn86Y2r4mH49RjB7K-MSJybrt6FFksBeZf4EzU&dib_tag=se&qid=1732733663&refinements=p_lbr_music_artists_browse-bin%3ASnoop+Dogg%2Cp_n_binding_browse-bin%3A387645011&s=music&sr=1-1
any chance for a last minute front cover change?
Don’t know why but when the album was first announced I first imagined the Joe cool Snoop in a robe with Dre preaching as a missionary converting the masses with their music. I suppose similar to the welcome to tha chuuch cover like an updated one. Didn’t think they would go with the obvious simple sex angle.
just preordered the CD from Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Missionary-Snoop-Dogg/dp/B0DLH53ZLZ/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._ZjGcfLswsQgwmSRg6A1DiIrLqPORzYx1XTNQkHB7a1qwdY_JqIxmg6SCzLiEuaFcOP6hgNPYQBmywW1nLq5wdFh_iaeJtIMMNWx0tbd7R5wPJ2VgZTPCifAhcqKmHQf3fn9jn-KS8OSoNn-4fICdieN1MUhw4wG9znvarBv_uAUkrT7dQLKM0D8AoSFXeX1COZlU8dr3_czbL-PlUC5-C1ddubgAXrObMK8nYwu-Pg.ygoIZQn86Y2r4mH49RjB7K-MSJybrt6FFksBeZf4EzU&dib_tag=se&qid=1732733663&refinements=p_lbr_music_artists_browse-bin%3ASnoop+Dogg%2Cp_n_binding_browse-bin%3A387645011&s=music&sr=1-1
any chance for a last minute front cover change?
https://www.instagram.com/p/C_kgllIPuZk/?img_index=1&igsh=MWxhMzV1dTdoMDBx
https://www.instagram.com/p/C_kgllIPuZk/?img_index=1&igsh=MWxhMzV1dTdoMDBx
https://www.instagram.com/p/DB3oQT8P0rK/?igsh=MWcxdG10bWkyb3pjcw==
this is 10x better 8)
sounds like the best track yet but still not what we want for missionary
1 minute snipped: https://www.freshhiphoprnb.com/snoop-dogg-dr-dre-feat-sting-another-part-of-me/
Why do all this though? why not wait for the album release for the fanmade stuff?
dope cover!
I did these before the release of the cover! 2 Joe Cool style concepts in September to try & commission my work for the official cover & then the condom concept after the release for a potential deluxe edition… just what you do if you are trying to get your work out there
i remember telling u on IG to use Dre in the drivers seat
great cover
Another Part of Me feat. Sting is out , this Track is 🔥🔥🔥
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bDGBC55Qjk8?si=MnYfXW2GMTIMuTR2
Video is unavailable for me :(
Everyone has been prepared for this, Dre said in an interview: no Westcoast! It is international so in all directions. Look at it finally they have the status no longer to make the gangsta shit
u sure about that, because the song literally says “i’m just tryna show u some gangsta love”
LOL
so that lame ass excuse not guna cut it
1 minute snipped: https://www.freshhiphoprnb.com/snoop-dogg-dr-dre-feat-sting-another-part-of-me/
He is not promoting gangstarism, or gang music...he says gangsta love. It's just a word at this point.
I like the Sting song for what it is…but damn, Dre missed the boat not rappin in withmustard and Sounwave.Sccit & Siavash
He is not promoting gangstarism, or gang music...he says gangsta love. It's just a word at this point.
What in the actual fuck...
What the hell, the sting song dropped on Apple Music and again it’s trash, what’s going on with this album, not one single has been good. Snoop and Dre have lost their legacy status after this album, I don’t even care now if there is a good song on there, 3 songs out and all bad. What the hell they smoking. The dumb album art cover as well. Everything about this record annoys me
We don’t expect g funk or 2001… but if you think these tracks are at any level to Dr Dre standards then you only playing yourself!
Dre scrapped so many great projects as a perfectionist & set the expectations so high that he is now struggling to deliver so far… I don’t hate what I’ve heard but they are not to Dre standards & to have a leaked track like Outta Da Blue feature as a single is just a poor choice!
He did better production on Em’s last album & if Kendrick can make music that’s hitting consecutive no.1’s with that west coast feel, then you suckaz saying this album is not for original fans or is not made for west coast are just stupid cause clearly that sound still hitting right!
I think they still have it - Snoop sounds good and so far no 's-n-double-o-p, l-b-c-, 1-2-3' rhymes and his cadence and flow is dope, just not is classic smooth flow.
It's just not the sound that we are used to or hoping for, but personally I like the change in direction.
We just have to accept Dre won't go back to that classic sound from the 90's and 00's that we grew up with.
This new one is more infectious to me, I will it was just Snoop alone with another verse.
I like them in this order.
1) Another Part of Me
2) Gorgeous
3) Outta Da Blue
I totally understand how everyone is feeling about the direction they took (with what we have heard).
I was also expecting stuff like B**** Please, F**k ‘Em, Hennessy N Buddah but so far none of that, still hoping I will get like 4 of those from the other 12 tracks.
I think they still have it - Snoop sounds good and so far no 's-n-double-o-p, l-b-c-, 1-2-3' rhymes and his cadence and flow is dope, just not is classic smooth flow.
It's just not the sound that we are used to or hoping for, but personally I like the change in direction.
We just have to accept Dre won't go back to that classic sound from the 90's and 00's that we grew up with.
snoops lyrics been on point on all the joints so far., it’s just the lackluster production that’s a let down. Snoops had yes men for years but I didn’t expect him to turn into another one of Dre’s yes men. I think back to that skit on Erick Sermons Music Album something similar to that going down
https://youtube.com/watch?v=m3LO6JO_7n4?si=uVNv4nym0PWSTvDx
still have hope for harder or more funk influenced tracks, maybe just the singles have a pop sound..
I don't think Dre will go back to the 70's/80's funk samples even with a new twist.
It's been re-hashed to death. Having said that, Gorgeous is as funk influenced as we may get from Dre.
Why do I want to shoot you;D
Somebody may have fucked up behind the scene. Something is not right with this whole album rollout, plus Kendrick just killed all the hype of this album with GNX
All the songs are flopping, who wants to hear a 50 year old rapper singing autotune on a pop beat?This isn't the reason it's flopping
All the songs are flopping, who wants to hear a 50 year old rapper singing autotune on a pop beat?
I liked it.
I think it's not what people initially expected, which is the main issue.
Just because it's not a proper typical hip=hop beat, doesn't mean it's pop, but a more rock influenced production. 'Round here' from TBCT was a guitar lead production sampling Dido.
When I first heard Sexual Eruption, I was like WTF is this? But quickly I loved it and so did many other people.
I think there's trouble behind the scenes. I asked Focus on IG why there is no promotion or videos for the album. Short Answer: Ask InterscopeThere’s a 10 minute video dropping on the 10th of December that’s narrated by Method Man. I’m sure this will have visuals for a number of songs from the project. Good idea to hype it up right before it drops. I’m sure it will be big budget.
Regarding interests in genres outside of hip hop, I agree that my musical tastes have also expanded since The Chronic and Doggystyle, but when I hear Dre and Snoop are making an album, I want to hear a straight hip hop album from them, because there aren't many other combinations of producer and rapper that can touch them in hip hop. And so I don't buy a Snoop album wanting to hear him be an average at best singer or Dre try to imitate current pop music. When I buy a hip hop album, I want hip hop. When I buy a rock album, I want rock. When I buy a electronic album, I want electronic. When I buy a country album, I want country. Sometimes people just need to stay in their lane and focus on what they're good at.
There’s a 10 minute video dropping on the 10th of December that’s narrated by Method Man. I’m sure this will have visuals for a number of songs from the project. Good idea to hype it up right before it drops. I’m sure it will be big budget.
As for the promo, I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a Snoop album get some much promo. He’s everywhere right now
They were probably expecting Gorgeous to go viral and have the teens using the song on TikTok.
This seems to be working for Kendrick tho
Interscope could potentially push it back and focus on Kendrick.
I think they still have it - Snoop sounds good and so far no 's-n-double-o-p, l-b-c-, 1-2-3' rhymes and his cadence and flow is dope, just not is classic smooth flow.
It's just not the sound that we are used to or hoping for, but personally I like the change in direction.
We just have to accept Dre won't go back to that classic sound from the 90's and 00's that we grew up with.
You will never get an updated version of Doggystyle because they were dumb and young when they made that album, it was innovative and the sound evolved since then, I wish they used the same formula in terms of body of work and cohesiveness though, or bring a follow up to the story since this is a sequel to Doggystyle.
Also the term hook singers doesn't exist, it's a term created by west coast dubcc fans. There is no such thing as a hook singer
Also, another point that people seems to ignore, Dr.Dre doesn't want to rap or perform anymore.
lol
hook master is definitely a term in hip-hop
It's 2024 my guy. This term is not used. It was Nate Dogg, Akon and maybe T-Pain to an extend.
Bullshit
Deion The Future,
just an example
and please
It's 2024 my guy. This term is not used. It was Nate Dogg, Akon and maybe T-Pain to an extend.
facts…
if Led Zeppelin came out with a new album and it wasn’t true to their sound, but instead incorporated elements of hip-hop and EDM, what do you think would be the reception?
this isnt rocket science… if dre and snoop dropped an album every couple years and wanted to experiment after multiple classix together, fine.. but considering it’s their first full album together in 30+ years and a follow up to one of the greatest albums in rap history, having it be one big experiment is not the play.
only in hip-hop is venturing out to other genres seen as “growth” .. it’s borderline racist, and stems from the mindset of “hip-hop isn’t a real art form!!” ….. the people here hyping this up based on what we heard have low expectations, because u can’t say with a straight face that anything they dropped thus far has been classic.
not kokane?
https://allhiphop.com/news/rap-hook-master-kokane-returns-with-new-album/
:hmmm:
u jus makin stuff up as u go along fam
Exactly. This is their first album in 30 years and Dre wants to get experimental. Why? They really only have The Chronic and Doggystyle so far together. There should be plenty of more hip hop they could make together.
If Dre is so keen on trying out other genres, good on him. But he shouldn't force other rappers to go along with him. He should go work with other types of musicians, you know, like he did with Marsha Ambrosious. But, oh wait, Marsha flopped because no one cares about Dre outside of fans of West Coast hip hop. So maybe he should stop running away from his roots and commit to making West Coast sounding hip-hop, you know, the genre he basically helped create.
Compare this to Xzibit's singles from Kingmaker. All three are lyrical hip hop, through and through. He knows what he's good at. He knows what his paying fans want. He knows what beats he sounds best on. Xzibit is staying true to himself.
DubCC be like:
“Is Nate Dogg on the hook?”
No.
“Is it G Funk?”
No.
“This fucking sucks! This is wack!”
xzibit’s new stuff isn’t nate dogg or g-funk and it’s not whack ….. same with kendrick’s new stuff ……. u tryin too hard to cape for mediocrity bruh
Ty Dolla Sign was all over people's hook for a while. Did they ever call him a "hook master"?
ty is an r&b singer …. hook master was generally used as hip-hop artists who were notorious for their hooks
kokane
nate
butch
bo-rocc
knocturnal
Levitti
these are artists who could sing but were mainly known for being featured on rap tracks due to their ability to create catchy hooks
Based off the examples, could you agree that it's mostly a West Coast thing?
xzibit’s new stuff isn’t nate dogg or g-funk and it’s not whack ….. same with kendrick’s new stuff ……. u tryin too hard to cape for mediocrity bruh
Exactly what I’m saying! Some these ppl need to read & wake TF up!
Dem Jointz dropped a dope track with Xzibit… how is this missionary album his fault lol
Lol at comparing xs tracks with snoops. Completlwy difderebt level of music and production.
Who said xzibit track is dope. Its wack. Horrible chorus. Ordinary beat.
Not only missionary, everythig dre drops or doesnt drop are ICU's fault. Dem Joinz has a heavy role in ICU unfortunately.
Who said xzibit track is dope. Its wack. Horrible chorus. Ordinary beat.
Not only missionary, everythig dre drops or doesnt drop are ICU's fault. Dem Joinz has a heavy role in ICU unfortunately.
Lol at comparing xs tracks with snoops. Completlwy difderebt level of music and production.
Dont forget Focus… he brings in the rock and vocal samples I read somewhere when compton dropped.
I like gorgeous and another part of me. They contain a certain funk and are more easy listening than compton. Stings vocals sound dope to me.
Still Dre is out of touch (maybe he damaged an essential part of his hearing testing these headphones). These mixes sound way too bright. If the sounds were tweaked a bit darker and heavier it would be more dope and more Dre like.
Probably Focus… did most of the mixing as well.
I do like the fact that these songs dont overly use the regular hiphop cursewords. These cursewords are played out.
Example: My wife likes the new Snoop tracks, at Xzibit she says get the shit out the kids are there hahaha
Compton was very bright with silibant vocals.At Compton and Gorgeous my tweeters scratch, thought at Bernie Grundman Mastering the album or tracks is mastered again? the same was at the first stream at the Doggpound album sounded terrible, when it came out on cd it was also reissued on stream and sounded tuned and much better
Gorgeous is silibant all over the beat and vocals.
Another Part of Me is way better the only silibant part is Snoop's verse where he's rapping. But the beat bangs.
Who are we to critisize Dre's mixes? I don't know but I know when my ears hurt listening to something. Dre's beats always had highs but i feel like the vocals especially are way over the top in these tracks, especially when said vocals are so forward in them.
Much better than Compton but Compton was already so highly mixed . The majority will like the new Album and Gorgeous and Another Part of me are not bad tracks
this is a good thing?
we are looking for a rap album, not a pop album
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this is a good thing?
we are looking for a rap album, not a pop album
:camby:
this is a good thing?
we are looking for a rap album, not a pop album
:camby:
Comparing production not raps!
You can even compare it to Eminem…. They all the same producers on Aftermath that’s where we share the comparison
That's one thing to understand though, you are probably part of the small pourcentage that want this from them. Like I've said previously Snoop Dogg is bigger than rap, 75% of the fan base appreciate the persona, the icon, 20% will acknowledge his impact in hip-hop and 5% are the die hard fans that are stuck in area that Snoop and Dre have move on from
That's one thing to understand though, you are probably part of the small pourcentage that want this from them. Like I've said previously Snoop Dogg is bigger than rap, 75% of the fan base appreciate the persona, the icon, 20% will acknowledge his impact in hip-hop and 5% are the die hard fans that are stuck in area that Snoop and Dre have move on from
Yes. All 3 diff sounds and production. But same musican and producer? Dre is genious.
No one is saying it has to be early 90s G-Funk, but why does it have to be Dre fucking around with genres he know nothing about? It just sounds bland and uninteresting as a result. Example, I quite like Sting, but listening to Snoop try to sing alongside him is an absolute joke. Why would I waste my hard earned money supporting a sub par blend of hip hop/pop, when I could instead get a great pop album from someone who can actually sing and a great rap album from someone who is committed to lyrics and flow?
If you don't like it, you should put up with the fact that times change. If you want hardcore hip hop, you shouldn't look for Snoop and Dre anymore😂😂😂
That's one thing to understand though, you are probably part of the small pourcentage that want this from them. Like I've said previously Snoop Dogg is bigger than rap, 75% of the fan base appreciate the persona, the icon, 20% will acknowledge his impact in hip-hop and 5% are the die hard fans that are stuck in area that Snoop and Dre have move on from
yo this sting single sux
i really wanted to like it too
the beat had potential and wasn’t bad at all.. but u can see they didn’t know where to take it
i forced myself to try liking both gorgeous and this latest one
they just ain’t it tho
Dj Hed just said that Missionary has nothing to do with Doggystyle. There you have utso we all got tricked into that marketing lie!
so we all got tricked into that marketing lie!
so we all got tricked into that marketing lie!
It’s Bush V2 with Dre!
That Amazon shit is dope tho
Dre not being there is weird
so we all got tricked into that marketing lie!
It’s Bush V2 with Dre!
BUSH is not a bad album lol actually very underrated BUSH and 7 Days Of Funk
glad someone mentioned Bush i feel like that LP is very underrated. one producer(s) (significant it may be the final project from The Neptunes as a duo) and has Snoop doing a variety of styles, most funk & pop sorta records. probably the best album he put out since BCT and the bar i'll judge Missionary against.You can't really go wrong with This NEPTUNES X Snoop X Uncle Charlie combo!
What marketing lie? They made a new album together after 30 years. Dre said it's different, it sounded international
BUSH is not a bad album lol actually very underrated BUSH and 7 Days Of Funkit did great numbers 😂😂😂
1. Doggystyle (1993) – Over 11 million copies worldwide, one of the best-selling hip-hop albums ever
2. Tha Doggfather (1996) – Over 2 million copies in the U.S. 
3. No Limit Top Dogg (1999) – 1.5 million copies in the U.S. 
4. Tha Last Meal (2000) – Over 2 million copies in the U.S. 
5. Paid tha Cost to Be da Boss (2002) – Over 1.5 million copies worldwide 
6. Tha Blue Carpet Treatment (2006) – Over 1 million copies in the U.S. 
7. Ego Trippin’ (2008) – Over 500,000 copies in the U.S.
8. R&G (Rhythm & Gangsta): The Masterpiece (2004) – Approximately 1.7 million copies worldwide 
9. Malice n Wonderland (2009) – Over 300,000 copies in the U.S. 
10. Doggumentary (2011) – Over 300,000 copies in the U.S.
11. Reincarnated (2013, as Snoop Lion) – Over 100,000 copies in the U.S.
12. Bush (2015) – Over 100,000 copies in the U.S.
13. Coolaid (2016) – Approximately 50,000 copies in the U.S.
14. Neva Left (2017) – Approximately 50,000 copies in the U.S.
15. Bible of Love (2018) – Over 40,000 copies in the U.S.
16. I Wanna Thank Me (2019) – Approximately 30,000 copies in the U.S.
They said several times it was a follow up to Doggystyle….hence the title Missionary
You keep talking international like it’s in different languages!! Maybe Pac should of made a rock album in German so it could be international GTFOH
Numbers equals quality?
Isn’t that what we aiming for with these new singles?
Just wanting to show where Bush sits but I go by longevity
BUSH is aging well as a body of work😂😂😂 your opinion but not the majority of fans anywhere around the world! Just a fact
BUSH is going to be way better than Missionary.
They said several times it was a follow up to Doggystyle….hence the title Missionary"The first album was Doggystyle, this time we decided to FLIP it"
You keep talking international like it’s in different languages!! Maybe Pac should of made a rock album in German so it could be international GTFOH
"The first album was Doggystyle, this time we decided to FLIP it"
Meaning we're doing the opposite lmao. Dre said it numerous times it's gonna be nothing like their previous works, so there was no lies in the promo campaign
Definitely looks like it is going the opposite of a classic LOL
I don’t buy Body Count cause I don’t like metal but still like Ice-T… this album should of been marketed the same was as his gospel or reggae album… nobody wanted a Snoop Swift & Andre Spears pop album
Snoop Swift & Andre Spears pop albumYou are just saying random shit that doesn't make any sense now, ain't you?
I just want a good hip hop album from Dre cause we know he had more to offer than what we’ve got so far!
You are just saying random shit that doesn't make any sense now, ain't you?🤦♂️😂
🤦♂️😂Bro no matter how trash Outta da blue is, it isn't a pop record in any way
Bro no matter how trash Outta da blue is, it isn't a pop record in any way
Gorgeous isn't any more pop tha Snoop/Pharrell records. Just cause it's mediocre and has a female on the hook doesn't make it a pop records
That Sting song may sound like some garbage too but it's more like rock influenced, or at least pop rock, so it's still not pop.
Just because something is trash and doesn't sound like g funk doesn't automatically make it Taylor Swift-style music lol
Bro no matter how trash Outta da blue is, it isn't a pop record in any way
Gorgeous isn't any more pop tha Snoop/Pharrell records. Just cause it's mediocre and has a female on the hook doesn't make it a pop records
That Sting song may sound like some garbage too but it's more like rock influenced, or at least pop rock, so it's still not pop.
Just because something is trash and doesn't sound like g funk doesn't automatically make it Taylor Swift-style music lol
You right but these tracks ain’t hitting for Dre standards! That’s the bottom lineNo doubt. Dre standards ain't been the same since 2010, we really shouldn't be surprised at this point
You right but these tracks ain’t hitting for Dre standards! That’s the bottom line
Gangsta Dre -
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Gangster Dre -
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Yew we all replaced it with the instrumental (ill shit) by now.
''I cant see, i cant see...''
Bitch calm down, ahaha
Snoop Dogg, Sting, and Dr. Dre Reinvent ‘Message in a Bottle’
Snoop's new Dre-produced single, "Another Part of Me," features vocals from Sting and a beat that draws from the Police classic
November 29, 2024
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NEW YORK, NEW YORK - DECEMBER 31: Sting and Snoop Dogg on New Year's Eve in Times Square on December 31, 2018 in New York City.
Snoop Dogg and Sting team up on Snoop's new single, "Another Part of Me"
Snoop Dogg‘s new single from his upcoming Dr. Dre-produced album Missionary takes major inspiration from the Police‘s 1979 single “Message in A Bottle,” using a sampled or replayed version of Andy Summers’ guitar line and part of the melody — as well as fresh vocals from former Police frontman Sting.
“Me and Snoop made a recording of ‘Message In A Bottle’, which he’s called something else,” Sting recently told BBC Radio 2. “I played the guitar and I sang on it, but Snoop also sings on this, which is quite a revelation to me.” Sting added that he found Snoop to be “a very nice man.”
Snoop’s confident singing is just as prominent as his rapping on the track (produced by Dre and the ICU), and Sting fits seamlessly alongside him, adopting some of Snoop’s flow into his own part. At one point, the two vocalists even nail a harmony together.
“We hung out and we chilled,” Snoop recently said of his time with Sting. “Like a child that’s infatuated with somebody as a singer, and you get a chance to meet them and they give you everything you expected. That’s what happens with me all the time: I meet people I’ve always wanted to meet and they’re everything I wanted them to be.”
Missionary will drop Dec. 13, a date that also marks the 30th anniversary of Snoop Dogg’s Dre-produced debut, Doggystyle. “We were kids at that time,” Dre said in August. “Snoop may have been like 18 or 19 years old, and I’m, I think, I’m six years older than him… This one is gonna show a different level of maturity with his lyrics and with my music.”
maybe someone can make a cartoon drawing of that picture of snoop and dre as an alternative cover. joe cool risky brent style (doggfather back cover artwork)
What marketing lie? They made a new album together after 30 years. Dre said it's different, it sounded international
This will surely be Snoop Dogg's worst album. :grumpy:Are you kidding me? Bit of an overreaction here. Not a fucking chance it’s his worst album. There’s still a very good chance it will be his second best album.
After watching his performance last night, it makes more sense now. 30 years of hits, with diverse fan base. The crowd had peope from all over with different age groups. Maybe Missionary will be for all of them, hence the various styles and direction.
Also "Drop it like is hot" is Snoops biggest hit. This to me is a Hip-pop joint.
yeah on the pop charts it is
but even pop fans have to have songs like "Gin and Juice" and "What's My Name?" ranked higher, no?
anyway it was dope to see Daz and Kurupt out there for a few joints even though Dre's absense was puzzling :-\
I pre-ordered the CD...
Random question that might be related to this; How do you guys listen to music in general? Is it on the computer? Phone, Bluetooth system? Do you listen to them in the car?In the car, home speakers and also headphones at times. My problem with Outta Da Blue is Alus. I don’t know who she is, where she came from or how she got on with Snoop and Dre, but her voice doesn’t add anything to the track and is pretty flat out annoying. The beat itself and Snoop and Dre are pretty good on the song.
I've played all 3 songs in different setting and devices. OUTTA DA BLUE isn't as bad in the right setting. It is more enjoyable in a loud setting with good speakers, or the car.
Random question that might be related to this; How do you guys listen to music in general? Is it on the computer? Phone, Bluetooth system? Do you listen to them in the car?
I've played all 3 songs in different setting and devices. OUTTA DA BLUE isn't as bad in the right setting. It is more enjoyable in a loud setting with good speakers, or the car.
for the longest I used to listen to music on my computer, mp3s, FLACs but after it crashed like a year ago I found my old CD boombox and been listening to CDs ever since
anyway I preordered Missionary from Amazon so when I listen to it I'll be able to better tell how all the tracks sound
all these songs so far sounds like they could use an extra verse from snoop... i always had this feeling on a lot of his last albums. is it laziness? it's some sort of intro, a chorus, one verse and the chorus again... that's it. wasted a lot of good instrumentals trough the years imo.
Russ wrote the song.
Are you kidding me? Bit of an overreaction here. Not a fucking chance it’s his worst album. There’s still a very good chance it will be his second best album.
I also believe it will be his biggest dissapointment.TBCT out now
As long as the last meal or no limit top dogg stands there, no album can beat them to be his 2nd best.
Audiophile?
The only thing I have found disappointing with these 3 songs is Snoop isn't credited as a writer on Gorgeous, or Another Part of Me. I know he hasn't always written everything he's performed, but I think we all know he CAN write. Snoop has turned into more of a performer/personality than an MC.
If Snoop did something like what Nas did with Hit Boy I think he could be regarded as a top tier MC again. But Missionary is a different animal. You can hear the money in the music lol. Nothing 'gritty' about any of this. It's all perfect and polished, which is something we haven't heard much in hip hop. In no way is it 'bad' music, but it's out of the ordinary.
They said several times it was a follow up to Doggystyle….hence the title Missionary
You keep talking international like it’s in different languages!! Maybe Pac should of made a rock album in German so it could be international GTFOH
Snoop was regarded as a top tier MC? When? Great rapper but never ever heard that said about him.
Based on the songs released, I have a feeling this will be a huge let down.
glad someone mentioned Bush i feel like that LP is very underrated. one producer(s) (significant it may be the final project from The Neptunes as a duo) and has Snoop doing a variety of styles, most funk & pop sorta records. probably the best album he put out since BCT and the bar i'll judge Missionary against.
Are you kidding me? Bit of an overreaction here. Not a fucking chance it’s his worst album. There’s still a very good chance it will be his second best album.
I’m guessing the work the Erick Sermon said he did for this album never came to fruition. I didn’t notice his name on the credits anywhere. Unless he worked on that track they previewed on drink champs that Dre said wasn’t finished….
I played this in the car with the wife this morning. She said it was a good song but thats all it is. there is no peak or anything and i agree it sounds incomplete. Almost like i am waiting for the beat drop to happen and it never does.
Numbers equals quality?
Dre had said in an interview that this would be his best work and that he was a perfectionist like Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson for Thriller.
I think he is trying to reproduce this pattern with an album in which we will find several genres: rock, pop, hip hop etc.
Thriller contained funk, soul, rock. Except that here the instrumentals of the 3 singles are more than average... I think he did not surround himself with the right people, he is too much in a delirium of experimentation.
"Delirium of experimentation" is a perfect descriptor. He's all over the place. Nothing flows together. There's no unifying sound or vision thus far. I feel like after the divorce and the middling reception to Compton, Dre has put himself under a lot of pressure to release some massive, game changing album, thus experimenting with other sounds and genres. But, frankly, his talents are in hip hop. Not other genres. Why release a 3 star bland mixed genre album for the sake of experimenting, when you could release a 5 star classic hip hop album by doing what you excel at?
I think like Sccit said, Dre just lost his touch is the most logical explanationI think we should all wait until the album drops to judge what Dre’s current standard is. I still fully expect there will be beats and music on this album that is superior to the current state of hip hop music. I’ll eat my words if I’m wrong but I have no doubt there will be some absolute Dre bangers on this album and some neck snapping beats for us to rock to. I’ll own it if I’m wrong.
the other one has been mentioned before, that he has been overrated from the start and its the people around him that did the work
that might come up again if the album sounds anything like the first 3 singles
I think we should all wait until the album drops to judge what Dre’s current standard is. I still fully expect there will be beats and music on this album that is superior to the current state of hip hop music. I’ll eat my words if I’m wrong but I have no doubt there will be some absolute Dre bangers on this album and some neck snapping beats for us to rock to. I’ll own it if I’m wrong.
Where did Dre or Snoop say this album is the sequel to Doggystyle? If it's a sequel, it would be called Doggystyle 2 or Doggystyle Part 2.
It's 2024, not 1994 or 2004. The music industry has changed. The internet is as big as ever, MTV doesn't exist like it did back then. A video, promo, single, etc, it doesn't matter anymore.
This album isn't selling gold, platinum, or multi-platinum. None of these "singles" are going to be #1 or top the Billboard charts. It's unrealistic and delusional reading all of this shit since these songs came out.
"Missionary" is a funny pun for Doggystyle, it's just named that because it's the first Dr. Dre-produced album since 1993, has nothing to do with Doggystyle. Dre is damn near 60 in a few months, Snoop Dogg is the most recognizable face in the world and he is 54 years old. Why would anyone think this was going to be G-funk or west coast-sounding?
I would say temper expectations. Three out of 15 tracks, many people on this forum are disappointed. We have no idea how this album will sound, most albums have songs like this, then the rest is different.
Last thing: Dubcnn and Reddit are vocal minorities, so all of this "we didn't want this" is silly to me. You don't speak for the majority. I bet anything that this album is going to get rave reviews when it's actually out.
Stop thinking this is 1994 or even 2004, the music business is pretty much dead, this isn't moving units, or changing the culture. Times have changed, we're in the streaming era. If this does 250,000 that's considered an achievement. Look at other artists that are so-called big, besides Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Drake, Taylor Swift, Travis Scott, Eminem, Beyonce, Adele, and some others, everyone is pretty much selling low 100,000 (being generous). Music doesn't sell anymore, it is ridiculous to see all of the "this flopped" or "it's flopping."
Do you know how much Ice Cube sold with Man Down in his first week? 20,000. This is Ice Cube, a movie star now, not a rapper in his prime. My only problem with the album is it's too damn short, 43 minutes sucks for a full-length album for Snoop Dogg, where most of his albums are always an hour long or more.
TLDR; It's not 1994 or 2004 anymore. The music industry is pretty much on life support. This album isn't going to be G-funk or 2001. This album isn't selling like Death Row in its peak. Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg are old, they're not rapping about gangbanging or fucking hoes. Get that out of your head and be more open-minded.
Jay Z once said "Niggas want my old shit, buy my old albums"
Where did Dre or Snoop say this album is the sequel to Doggystyle? If it's a sequel, it would be called Doggystyle 2 or Doggystyle Part 2.
It's 2024, not 1994 or 2004. The music industry has changed. The internet is as big as ever, MTV doesn't exist like it did back then. A video, promo, single, etc, it doesn't matter anymore.
This album isn't selling gold, platinum, or multi-platinum. None of these "singles" are going to be #1 or top the Billboard charts. It's unrealistic and delusional reading all of this shit since these songs came out.
"Missionary" is a funny pun for Doggystyle, it's just named that because it's the first Dr. Dre-produced album since 1993, has nothing to do with Doggystyle. Dre is damn near 60 in a few months, Snoop Dogg is the most recognizable face in the world and he is 54 years old. Why would anyone think this was going to be G-funk or west coast-sounding?
I would say temper expectations. Three out of 15 tracks, many people on this forum are disappointed. We have no idea how this album will sound, most albums have songs like this, then the rest is different.
Last thing: Dubcnn and Reddit are vocal minorities, so all of this "we didn't want this" is silly to me. You don't speak for the majority. I bet anything that this album is going to get rave reviews when it's actually out.
Stop thinking this is 1994 or even 2004, the music business is pretty much dead, this isn't moving units, or changing the culture. Times have changed, we're in the streaming era. If this does 250,000 that's considered an achievement. Look at other artists that are so-called big, besides Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Drake, Taylor Swift, Travis Scott, Eminem, Beyonce, Adele, and some others, everyone is pretty much selling low 100,000 (being generous). Music doesn't sell anymore, it is ridiculous to see all of the "this flopped" or "it's flopping."
Do you know how much Ice Cube sold with Man Down in his first week? 20,000. This is Ice Cube, a movie star now, not a rapper in his prime. My only problem with the album is it's too damn short, 43 minutes sucks for a full-length album for Snoop Dogg, where most of his albums are always an hour long or more.
TLDR; It's not 1994 or 2004 anymore. The music industry is pretty much on life support. This album isn't going to be G-funk or 2001. This album isn't selling like Death Row in its peak. Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg are old, they're not rapping about gangbanging or fucking hoes. Get that out of your head and be more open-minded.
we don’t want old shit, we just want new shit that’s good
You keep comparing to Compton though.
Dr.Dre clearly said that he doesn't listen to his old shit. Why do we expect for him to be inspired by it?
And again that "We want" portion is about a very small pourcentage of the fan base.
Regardless of what 'us' hardcore fans want and our disappointment with the album direction, (so far) the numbers don't lie. The songs ain't connecting with the mainstream. 1.5 mil YouTube views on Gorgeous weeks later after all the album hype tells you all you need to know.
Name 3 tracks that released this year that is dope to you?
You know it’s subjective but curious where you set the bar
"Delirium of experimentation" is a perfect descriptor. He's all over the place. Nothing flows together. There's no unifying sound or vision thus far. I feel like after the divorce and the middling reception to Compton, Dre has put himself under a lot of pressure to release some massive, game changing album, thus experimenting with other sounds and genres. But, frankly, his talents are in hip hop. Not other genres. Why release a 3 star bland mixed genre album for the sake of experimenting, when you could release a 5 star classic hip hop album by doing what you excel at?
Not necessarily, I Wanna Thank Me was a good record.
kanye west & ty dolla sign - burn
kanye & ty dolla sign - do it
kanye & ty dolla sign - fuk sumn
saba & no-id - i'm not impressed
mr. criminal & b-real - dreams come true
eminem - habits
eminem - houdini
kendrick - not like us
kendrick - whole gnx
dogg pound - grown up
rakim - now is the time
ice cube - break the mirror
xzibit - play this at my funeral
zeefan & timbaland - if it wasn't up to me
snoop & warren g - cali 2 canada
mustard - one of them ones
I would pick maybe 4 off your list!
Early/Mid 90's snoop was on top
let me hear yours please.
additional thoughts...these songs feel like Snoop features not the main artist. its like he's just singing along with the others
Regardless of what 'us' hardcore fans want and our disappointment with the album direction, (so far) the numbers don't lie. The songs ain't connecting with the mainstream. 1.5 mil YouTube views on Gorgeous weeks later after all the album hype tells you all you need to know.
Put it this way my heavy rotation right now is GNX & Man Down but was also Em’s last & Chupacabra.
For me GNX is so far the best album of 2024
Haven’t felt this way about Dot since 2011/2012 before GKMC
You lost me with Yeezy
I would pick maybe 4 off your list!
Can you name one of those songs "wack"???
Did you listen to all i mentioned?
How come you didnt feel "mr morale and big steppers"?
As I said man music is subjective! Not interested in Yeezy & only liked his older stuff!
This like asking me to listen to Travis Scott, Migos etc… I don’t like that style of music so don’t look for it!
damn
doggystyleee doin more views than snoop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6stTKfoDw18
:snoop:
So far no video for any of the songs dropped, apart from the 10 mins mini movie they spoke about on Drink Champs, they must have music videos planned for some of the tracks surely.
If you like old kanye, you will like vultures 1... i wasnt listening to kanye for long time. This vultures 1 is very close to his old style. Pleae check it.
A few months ago, most of you didn't even believe that the Missionary album would see the light of day. For you, it was the new Detox and blah, blah, blah. Now you're just criticizing the music. Are you serious? These artists work and don't give a fuck about your opinion.... They're too rich! Now how about just enjoying the music!? Everyone has the right to like it or hate it, but I don't understand why we're arguing about it! Just enjoy the mouvement... chuuuch!
A few months ago, most of you didn't even believe that the Missionary album would see the light of day. For you, it was the new Detox and blah, blah, blah. Now you're just criticizing the music. Are you serious? These artists work and don't give a fuck about your opinion.... They're too rich! Now how about just enjoying the music!? Everyone has the right to like it or hate it, but I don't understand why we're arguing about it! Just enjoy the mouvement... chuuuch!
Dr Dre or Snoop don't have to produce the music WE want to hear. They're creative people over 50 with nothing left to prove. So many legends have passed away or are no longer making music, we can count ourselves lucky to still have tracks from them in 2024! Like I said, just enjoy!
Yes, i'm sure this music sounds absolutely fantastic as they are creating it in the studio. No doubt i'd love to hear this in DRE's studio, i bet it sounds phenomenalThat's an extremely accurate description of how I think Dre feel about his current music lol
Snoop was always a personality with me. Never much of a mc. Kurupt is an mc mi 90s. He was top 5 mc at that time. Pqc bigie, nas, prodigy, kurupt. Snoop was always a character.
I finally listened to all three tracks. Profanity aside, they are all good records. I don't understand the hate.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TI_VkC_WNBw?si=e1MepDyXTNWnKs7Q
There's nothing enjoyable about this. Yes, i'm sure this music sounds absolutely fantastic as they are creating it in the studio. No doubt i'd love to hear this in DRE's studio, i bet it sounds phenomenal, but the sum of everything is just bland. We have two "decent" songs so far....Dre called it his Thriller album, so of the released tracks which are the counterparts on the Thriller album? You cant call this "My Thriller" album with what has been released. if they meant "Doggystyle" flipped, then yes this is exact opposite of the impact Doggystyle had so far. We have not heard any legit hip hop tracks yet and i am hoping that is what is coming next.Isn't Missionary just Doggystyle flipped? 😁
Isn't Missionary just Doggystyle flipped? 😁
Outta Da Blue as a first visual & even considered after being leaked to even be on the album is a HUGE MISTAKE!!
Someone at Interscope needs to be fired …. On a side note the Drink Champs looking to be doing a Detox 😂😂😂 I’m slowly losing interest in its release.
This album sounds like it should of been left for the vaults & Detox should of dropped 🤦♂️
The Drink Champs interviews are often released months later, it's not surprising
From all 3 leaks, outta da blue grow the most on me no homo no diddy.I enjoyed it more when it leaked 4-5 months ago tho 😂
yeah...flipped from super classic to super wackGuess you didn't get the joke, maybe you should fuck more! 🙍
Seems like a lot of people are hating on here... I’m just happy these two are putting out music that sounds good to my ears and hopefully will give us a few more classics to bump into the next decade.
Dre compared his work on this to the Thriller ENGINEER'S work - Bruce Swedien- not Quincy or Michael - so we should have no expecations of the song writing, or that we will get 9 hit singles out of this. We should expect it to be mixed very well based on that comment. So far he set our expectations well.
Sounds good. Nothing groundbreaking, though, and song structures far from genre shifting or game changing. That video looks fire, tho
This album sounds like it should of been left for the vaults & Detox should of dropped 🤦♂️
For the people not liking OUTTA DA BLUE because of the hook, yall didn't like the original song by M.I.A back in the days?
that isn't the issue it's this right here, whoever thought this would make a good sample...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0d9rKfkTyg
Good find! Maybe that's Dre being creative?
I just heard Dre compare it to the thriller album, didn't know there was additional context that needed to be explained. Regardless, I don't think anyone thinks of the engineer when talking about or comparing to Thriller
I think I’m one of the few that’s still excited about this album on here.
Seeing the video teaser got me even more excited, have watched it several times……watching the lil exchange between Snoop & Ali’s in the chorus makes difference (to me).
The more I listen to the tracks they have realised the better they sound to me (just like how it used to be back in the day before we lost our attention span).
I’m still 70% convinced Missionary is going to be a very good album.
that isn't the issue it's this right here, whoever thought this would make a good sample...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0d9rKfkTyg
when outta da blue got leaked, people hated it.
than it took place in album tracklist, people hated more.
than they released it as 2nd official single, people hated more and more.
now they are shooting a video for that, what the fuck are they trying to do?
when outta da blue got leaked, people hated it.
than it took place in album tracklist, people hated more.
than they released it as 2nd official single, people hated more and more.
now they are shooting a video for that, what the fuck are they trying to do?
Guess you didn't get the joke, maybe you should fuck more! 🙍
I got it, it just wasn't that funny :ohwell:
if you read the youtube comments, most people actually love it
kinda weird .. maybe there’s something to sampling retarded peoples music after all
most the world is retarded, so dre might actually be on to something
I have to disagree with this. Kanye is a shell of himself at this point and hasn't had a vintage Kanye album since Yeezus...MAYBE TLOP.
if you read the youtube comments, most people actually love it
kinda weird .. maybe there’s something to sampling retarded peoples music after all
most the world is retarded, so dre might actually be on to something
if you read the youtube comments, most people actually love it
kinda weird .. maybe there’s something to sampling retarded peoples music after all
most the world is retarded, so dre might actually be on to something
What the fuck. Did Dre do anything on this production? I thought he was staying away from samples these days. Instead, he's just while sale stealing the beats. What a fucking hack.
The last song should have been named the Negrotiator , a nod to his show on MTV back in the days
oh, by the way, anyone remember this Snoop comedy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79idB95cZ1s
Only dre can make this in too a banger.
I'm sorry. A banger? Hardly. It's a fucking migraine, is what it is.
All this talk about Dre's production encouraged me to do my now annual "let's try to listen to Compton again and see if we misunderstood it the first 10 times we listened to it" private listening party. It's still as boring and sleep inducing as I remember. I guess so just don't like Dr. Dre's change in production post-Detox recording sessions. It still amazes me that Kush and I Need A Doctor didn't blow up.
There's nearly 2800 replies to hear the rap version of Aaron Rodgers playing football in 2024 compared to the 150 replies for Kendrick who is actually holding it down for the west coast.
Imagine if Dubcc decided years ago to not be the official Snoop Groupie Message Bard. Maybe it would actually be relevant.
Kendrick is boring.
Played this in the club, damn that bass hard.
Okay, so this is my personal opinion without hate. If you really try to enjoy the music and you have some headphones and not just a laptop or cellphone - the tunes are infectious - well sort of - certain elements because of Snoop's rapid fire delivery and the tempo of songs 1 and 3 - don't sound that bad. But the thing is - these tunes aren't memorable. With today's fast pace of everything dropping on Spotify overnight, too many music releases come and go because there's always new content. Something just ain't there.
Snoop sat on the sideline like a complete bitch while Drake used his voice without permission to diss Kendrick while he was holding it down for the coast.
Again, I don't blame you since this forum as a whole made the decision 20-25 years ago to be a Snoop Groupie forum that cannot criticize Snoop under any circumstances, but in 2024/2025, Kendrick is the one holding it down for 2pac and the West Coast.
All this talk about Dre's production encouraged me to do my now annual "let's try to listen to Compton again and see if we misunderstood it the first 10 times we listened to it" private listening party. It's still as boring and sleep inducing as I remember. I guess so just don't like Dr. Dre's change in production post-Detox recording sessions. It still amazes me that Kush and I Need A Doctor didn't blow up.I need a Doctor is the worst thing Dr. Dre has ever done. Pathetic.
Here is the concept art Joe Cool did for the album before he passed, classic album cover 8)
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDGJvuTNrwD/?igsh=MWk0MDY3d3hvcTJxcQ==
I'm on my phone so can't post the actually pic.
Here is the concept art Joe Cool did for the album before he passed, classic album cover 8)
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDGJvuTNrwD/?igsh=MWk0MDY3d3hvcTJxcQ==
I'm on my phone so can't post the actually pic.
talk about out of touch
most the people on this forum not feeling what snoop is doing with missionary right now
What??? To me it seemed like most were liking it
The Dog fucking missionary really?
What??? To me it seemed like most were liking it
Here is the concept art Joe Cool did for the album before he passed, classic album cover 8)
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDGJvuTNrwD/?igsh=MWk0MDY3d3hvcTJxcQ==
I'm on my phone so can't post the actually pic.
plant, hercy buggz, and aftermathmusic ….. don’t u see all the pages of those 3 telling people “it’s not 1993 timings!!! no g-funk is ok if snoop liking beyonce leveling famous!!!! they are gangster now, no gangsta, ok?!?!!!!!!”
I think it’s dope & should have been used if JC did it before passing!
Or they could a used my animated concepts I designed also…
Only problem is it tricks the person thinking this is going to be a Snoop classic… so maybe the cover they chose fits the overall theme of we all got fucked 😂
Snoop sat on the sideline like a complete bitch while Drake used his voice without permission to diss Kendrick while he was holding it down for the coast.
Again, I don't blame you since this forum as a whole made the decision 20-25 years ago to be a Snoop Groupie forum that cannot criticize Snoop under any circumstances, but in 2024/2025, Kendrick is the one holding it down for 2pac and the West Coast.
Snoop Dogg is a brand, he does cartoon for kids now. This cover is not it, could be seen as misogynistic.😂😂😂 but the title & a condom is fine? Either we be soft or grow TF up in 2024!
😂😂😂 but the title & a condom is fine? Either we be soft or grow TF up in 2024!
Here is the concept art Joe Cool did for the album before he passed, classic album cover 8)
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDGJvuTNrwD/?igsh=MWk0MDY3d3hvcTJxcQ==
I'm on my phone so can't post the actually pic.
So a cartoon of a dog having a sexual act is okay as an album cover, knowing that the man has a kid cartoon that is very successful?your wokeness is why the world is fucked up! I don’t think a place like this is right for you, unless you the hip hop police! Next you gon be asking me for my pronouns GTFOH
The album cover could pass because like I said, it could promote safe sex. As for the title, even it could be used multiple ways because of its multiple connotation.
Expecting a 54 man to release this type of album cover this high in his career is nuts to me
your wokeness is why the world is fucked up! I don’t think a place like this is right for you, unless you the hip hop police! Next you gon be asking me for my pronouns GTFOH
It's not even that.
if Outta Da Blue wins a grammy i will eat my hat.
who knows maybe it's actually this generations Billie Jean.
if Outta Da Blue wins a grammy i will eat my hat.
who knows maybe it's actually this generations Billie Jean.
I'm curious to see if they'll release another single!?
Is the video completely outside or just the snippet?
and I hope that our wishes are heard
Tracks
1. Fore Play
2. Shangri-La
4. Hard Knocks
9. Skyscrapers
10. Gunz N Smoke
13. Now Or Never
15. The Negotiator
The grenade simply has to be there
Sam Sneed co-produced "The Negotiator", "Shangri-La", and "Skyscrapers"
These some things old tracks reworked or has he been in the studio lately? Whatever the case, this gives me hope. All we really need is dope production and hooks as Snoop sounds so good on the mic on the three released singles (even the Sting one). Dre knows how to get the most out of Snoop vocally
I'm curious to see if they'll release another single!?
I’m shocked to write this but after watching the music video trailer a few times and listening on my headphones, Outta Da Blue is very strangely growing on me.
Didn’t expect that at all
in the studio
You ever think of locking in with Sam Sneed? Dre’s sound with him > 2001 era sound to me.
the glove has been our dre guy.. haven’t considered sam sneed as he was on hiatus when we did fatlip and rbx but anything’s possible
8 Days to go 8)
That’s so dope you working with The Glove- I believe he worked on the very first rap I ever heard (early Ice-T). He also did Phone Tap? That beat alone makes him a legend. He did the Po Broke n Lonely shit too. Been on the game forever.
That’s so dope you working with The Glove- I believe he worked on the very first rap I ever heard (early Ice-T). He also did Phone Tap? That best alone makes him a legend.
yes, he did some of dre’s best stuff. xxplosive is one which he did that kanye credits for influencing his career..
here’s a couple tracks we did wit glove:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPLJUtrvME0
https://rbxthenarrator.bandcamp.com/track/regrets
Xxplosive too? Whoa. I know he did Stranded on Deathrow as well.
And I’ve spun those songs you did with him numerous times fo sho. Dust in the Wind is a masterpiece front to back. And The Glove helped on Regrets? That’s my favourite track on the RBX album (how come it’s off Spotify?!)- I just bought on Bandcamp (which I’ve never used before)
That’s so dope you working with The Glove- I believe he worked on the very first rap I ever heard (early Ice-T). He also did Phone Tap? That best alone makes him a legend.I posted a interview of him where he talked about doing phone tap. If you do a search here you can check it out.
I purchased the CD and Spotify exclusive green vinyl just for the f of it. I have a pretty large collection of Dre/Snoop/Death Row stuff so I wanted to add it to the collection. I have the rare Doggystyle green vinyl for the Xmas promo and a few other green vinyl releases so said why not! In the behind the scene Drink Champs stuff DJ Speed posted there is one track I really want to hear - you can hear it in this Reel: https://www.instagram.com/p/DCe3fXmS6HZ/?igsh=bmdka2dpaGpkeDdj
https://interscope.com/collections/snoop-dogg-missionary?srsltid=AfmBOoqCdsRsXib5ps-4o6kuIFD5ZrT0roGqk-w4cmS9kisMSd5zLj61
I was debating the vinyl but had added it to my cart. I came back a few days later and it was no longer avail but since I had it in my cart I said F it and snagged it anyways! Like I said before, I really wished the team had gotten Joe Cool (RIP) to do the artwork years ago for the album. Why not have it a spin off the iconic 'Doggystyle' ya dig?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54187168259_0f5aff2a79_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qykpgH)Screenshot 2024-12-06 at 10.18.47 AM (https://flic.kr/p/2qykpgH) by J Dogg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/201925001@N07/), on Flickr
Instagram Reel ain't working for me
For some reason that instagram post not available in UK- I get a message saying it goes against the local law
Instagram Reel ain't working for meSomething's wrong with the way this board processes IG.
For some reason that instagram post not available in UK- I get a message saying it goes against the local law
This drink champs getting the detox treatment 🤦♂️😂
The DJ Speed one? Shows fine in UK here.It comes up as age restricted and I aint ever made an IG account so guess thats why
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDRsHdBJXCD/?igsh=MW9ha2hkN252a3h4ZQ==
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL-pwzIIgyc?si=TNCOHUiDNyWCkdd9FINALLY
Dre and Snoops Drinks Champ interview
That Thank You record is out of this world!!!!! My Gawdddddd
That Thank You record is out of this world!!!!! My Gawdddddd
That Thank You record is out of this world!!!!! My Gawddddddstarted off good, but It started to sound like another chaotic record to me. Still, not on the tracklisting and probably wont see the light of day unless released on deluxe edition.
started off good, but It started to sound like another chaotic record to me. Still, not on the tracklisting and probably wont see the light of day unless released on deluxe edition.
Outta Da Blue is ready for the album, but Thank You isn’t?! WTF. I’m glad EFN called Dre out. Thank You is Dre’s best beat since relapse. It better be on a deluxe version. But I imagine we would have heard about a deluxe version by now if one was coming.
It better be on a deluxe version. But I imagine we would have heard about a deluxe version by now if one was coming.
they said that album doesnt look "done" and needs another song, thats who did "thank you" and its going to take place in the album.
i feel that its going to be added to tracklist previewed in dsp's. but im not sure how its going to be added to the vinlys and cd's which are already been oredered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL-pwzIIgyc?si=TNCOHUiDNyWCkdd9
Dre and Snoops Drinks Champ interview
This thank you track is another horrible track. Basic ass generic rhymes by Snoop and horrible beat.. Dre & Snoop abandoned the core fan base since 92'.You must be trippin man!
This thank you track is another horrible track. Basic ass generic rhymes by Snoop and horrible beat.. Dre & Snoop abandoned the core fan base since 92'.
We are told this album is only occuring because of Doggystyle and the 30 reunion, correct?
Then why not incorporate samples from Doggystyle, make this an album that it truly should be. At this point we are basically getting 2 new artists named Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre!..
We are told this album is only occuring because of Doggystyle and the 30 reunion, correct?
Then why not incorporate samples from Doggystyle, make this an album that it truly should be. At this point we are basically getting 2 new artists named Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre!..
If you want Doggystyle go listen to Doggystyle ffs
If you want Doggystyle go listen to Doggystyle ffs
I get it… I really do… but can’t blame hardcore fans for wanting that Dre & Snoop magic we got with such classics!
I’m excited about the album again but when you set the bar at a high standard, you gotta expect the OG fans to feel a certain way when it switches up!
For the people saying Dre went pop. DRE went that route the minute he signed Eminem.
Dre produced a pop band of ex-Mickey Mouse club members long before that, so you're wrong more than you were before you posted that comment.
For the people saying Dre went pop. DRE went that route the minute he signed Eminem.
Dude, Eminem was the breaking point. Having him and Dre dressed as Batman and Robin, he may have produced for pip acts before that but signing Eminem changed everything.
For the people saying Dre went pop. DRE went that route the minute he signed Eminem.
This Missionary record is probably going to be quite successful. It has mass appeal and touches a number of different genres. It might just be the record that takes Snoop to the red carpet. I'm happy for them both. It's certainly not what I wanted or expected from them but there is no question that the record will be immaculately produced and sonically impeccable. As Effen said, the records are big, not niche. And today, Gangsta Rap has become niche. There just isn't the kind of audience for it that there once was. However, pioneers do exactly that - they pioneer. They dictate what's what and tell a story to people about who they are and where they come from with sound that is unique to that story; it's part of what being original is all about. Funk came from all parts of the country but the West made it their signature sound when rap emerged, with Dre being one of the primary architects.
That said, I really wanted a Funk record. I wanted to see how Dre could reintroduce Funk and what sorts of samples he would use. There are SO many countless Funk records that are absolutely incredible. The genre is an endless goldmine.
The title of this record suggests a continuity between it and Doggystyle, which I think is misleading to original fans - we have a right to feel that way because of how familiar we are with their work and the indigenous sound that defines the West. In my opinion, the record shouldn't have been named Missionary. That title (along with Joe Cool's art) should've been saved for a record that embodied the Funk sound they put on the map. If anyone could bring it back, it's those two. Maybe we might get one before they hang it up. I won't hold my breath but it would've been nice.
What is the last Dr.Dre Funk influenced record/song?
Just finished the Drink Champs interview. As others have said; definitely sounds like Thank You will be in the album. They said 16 tracks, plus why would they play it if they weren’t gonna include it. Dre himself said it was his favourite.
Also, the Mary Jane track is gonna blow no doubt (but I wish it had a little more Snoop and a little less Jelly Roll)
Sadly, that track would have been better if it were just Dre and Jelly Roll. I don't like Jelly Roll, but he killed that beat.
Just finished the Drink Champs interview. As others have said; definitely sounds like Thank You will be in the album. They said 16 tracks, plus why would they play it if they weren’t gonna include it. Dre himself said it was his favourite.
Also, the Mary Jane track is gonna blow no doubt (but I wish it had a little more Snoop and a little less Jelly Roll)
Just finished the Drink Champs interview. As others have said; definitely sounds like Thank You will be in the album. They said 16 tracks, plus why would they play it if they weren’t gonna include it. Dre himself said it was his favourite.It doesn't sound like that at all. You're overthinking this
The tracklist on all the music retail sites don't include it, so i dont think it will be on there, plus as snoop said in the interview, Dre will have to see how it fits on the overall sequence of the album.
It should be included.
Snoop sounds like old snoop dogg in "thank you"... his tone, his flow, cadance... this is really snoop's himself. We heard somebody else in gorgeous, outta da blue and another part of me... in thank you i hear snoop doggy dogg.
When it comes to beat, that guitar and its rhytm reminds me in da club and westside story, the sound effect in the beginning of each verses is what dre always does in early 2000s, when snoop started like "once upon a time...".. that melody is from shiznit beat, lots of lyrics have references to previous songs like "the watcher", "serial.killers" and a few more...
I wish there would be a 3rd dr. Dre verse and that could be the come back track for these legends.
“Thank You” was tagged on IG by Cocoa Sarai as “Thank you” featuring Cocoa Sarai, Missionary 12/13
I’m expecting this to be on the album now
https://www.instagram.com/stories/snoopdogg/3518248189556117309?igsh=MWVxMHg2ZTlueGU2ZA==
Probably cos its the only one getting a positive reception from the old heads from the 5 heard so far lol. Anyhow youtube rip to mp3 that was posted here a few pages ago.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/eba7oillya1fvwz/Thank_You_ft_Coco_Sarai.mp3/file
By the way beside the songs thats been played drinkchamps was a failure. They didnt ask anything special or they couldnt lead the show to get something important from dre and snoop.
"Thank You" and "Last Dance With Maryjane" are bangers.
Honestly i started to like anothet part of me. Only thing is missing with the song is there is no certain hook and structure on the song.
Well, first of all, I don't understand at all why there is a discussion here, or why there is hope that the track will still be on the album...like Dr. Dre says it's not finished yet, it'll be released next Friday and you don't seriously believe in a deluxe version and it's so cool, let's be honest the track isn't either. Apart from that I read somewhere Gunz N Smoke (feat. 50 Cent & Eminem) contains a sample from Biggie, so nothing against The Notorious B.I.G. For me one of the best in the game, but please not something like Marsha
Nowadays with streaming it's so easy to add a song to the tracklist the same week the album is dropping.The drink champs episode was filmed like a month ago, so they’ve had lots of time to finish the song.
Not like it used to be when you needed weeks/months for printing hard copies and stuff lol.
So they'd have a few days to finish Thank You.
I’m so confused how everyone loving the jelly roll song but hates the I need a doctor song in this forum. It’s like the same style of power ballad rap that’s been going on ever since I need a doctor was released. Also why I like the Xzibit Been a long time Pt2 the least out the tracks put out.
I’m so confused how everyone loving the jelly roll song but hates the I need a doctor song in this forum. It’s like the same style of power ballad rap that’s been going on ever since I need a doctor was released. Also why I like the Xzibit Been a long time Pt2 the least out the tracks put out.
I agree 0%. I dont understand the similarity between i need a doctor and mary jane.
I need a doctor was a new age rap song produced by alex da kid.
Mary jane is produced by dr.dre, highly influenced by prime timbaland. Without jelly roll this song would be a 7/10. With jelly roll its 10/10.
If i am going to compare this song to another, i would say "boss's life" by snoop.
I still hate i need a doctor, i love mary jane. It is very sensible.
Not only old heads... everybody is hyped with it. Thats what i always told, if its a hit it doesnt matter pop, g funk, sound old or new, local or inrernational... if its a hit, everybody likes it. Thank you is a pizza!
Probably because she wrote that wack lhbtiq hook. With that english Jamaican accent just like that bridge on outta da blue. Its not a hit to me.
I am talking about "thank you".. not "outta da blue"
I need doctor was/is trash from top too bottom. Maybe if they do it today would do it better. Vifeo is fire, but evrything else is strash, from eminems screaming teenage rap to dr dre corny lyrics.Yup. Totally different from Mary Jane. Riding that Alex Da Kid wave was so weak on Dre part.
I don’t think ‘Thank You’ will be on the album cause it’s too late for all hard copies right now! Maybe added to stream.
If it were a hidden track there’s no way they would have played it there but then again ‘Outta Da Blue’ was a single that leaked months ago we were surprised made the album… so anything is possible.
I don’t think ‘Thank You’ will be on the album cause it’s too late for all hard copies right now! Maybe added to stream.
If it were a hidden track there’s no way they would have played it there but then again ‘Outta Da Blue’ was a single that leaked months ago we were surprised made the album… so anything is possible.
Technically not a leak as it was released on Madden and can be heard on the new Jamie Foxx movieleaked months ago way before the Foxx movie was even mentioned. It was supposed to be on Madden 25 soundtrack back in August/September & is now on there… so it was a leak
Which totally confuses me, they said they made the track 4 days before Dink Champs, why are they still working on the album when the track list is already out and then it will be Dre's favorite track, I'm curious what they do with itDre also said 16 tracks when it’s only 15 announced!
Dre also said 16 tracks when it’s only 15 announced!
Yeah he did. Didnt he?Yeah i picked it up right away! Could be just a human error but its strange we have this 'Thank You' track played for millions but isn't on the album...
Me too.The hook is taken from Sly and the Family Stone song. It’s a sample.
I think she wrote that hook on thank you.
‘Thank you for letting me be myself’?
that is the opposite of gangster; always be yourself dont care what other people think or what they let you be
I’m so confused how everyone loving the jelly roll song but hates the I need a doctor song in this forum. It’s like the same style of power ballad rap that’s been going on ever since I need a doctor was released. Also why I like the Xzibit Been a long time Pt2 the least out the tracks put out.
nothing u said has anything to do wit what the QUALITY of the music should sound like
and no its not dre’s first produced album since 93 LOL
Snoop Dogg - Last Dance With Mary Jane (Feat. Tom Petty & Jelly Roll) [Produced by Dr. Dre] 2024 MP3This is just ripped from Drink Champs.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/nntwkb2j4dsfk1f/Last_Dance_With_Mary_Jane.mp3/file
Snoop Dogg - Last Dance With Mary Jane (Feat. Tom Petty & Jelly Roll) [Produced by Dr. Dre] 2024 MP3
https://www.mediafire.com/file/nntwkb2j4dsfk1f/Last_Dance_With_Mary_Jane.mp3/file
Dre also said 16 tracks when it’s only 15 announced!Dre also said that he's featured on 2 songs, when we know that he's on 3.
Dre also said that he's featured on 2 songs, when we know that he's on 3.well done
He also said that he produced half of GRODT, when we know that he only did four tracks (4 isn't a half of 20 tracks album)
Dre makes mistakes like that all the time
I didn't say that, I said it's his first produced album he has done with Snoop since 1993. You and the others are on a different level of delusion. I can't wait until Friday hits. Did you like Man Down? I love it. It's not prime Cube, but I enjoyed it. Did you like Thank You from Drink Champs?
The quality of the music is subjective, we will see, and none of what you or the others in this thread say are facts.
Bruuh 😭POP music
After listening back to the playing of Thank You on Drink Champs, it does seem that Snoop was suggesting that Thank You was planned to go somewhere on Missionary with Dre trying to work out where to put it.
Does anyone know when the episode was recorded? Was it after the album was already mixed and submitted? It does seem weird that they were still recording music for it until quite recently if so.
Unless they are planning an expanded addition or something like most albums seem to do these days.
After listening back to the playing of Thank You on Drink Champs, it does seem that Snoop was suggesting that Thank You was planned to go somewhere on Missionary with Dre trying to work out where to put it.
Does anyone know when the episode was recorded? Was it after the album was already mixed and submitted? It does seem weird that they were still recording music for it until quite recently if so.
Unless they are planning an expanded addition or something like most albums seem to do these days.
Snoop on Cameron & Mase Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRMypwZCKPI?si=oFIzkTLkZd-tCFiB
When is the movie dropping?
Snoop on Cameron & Mase Podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRMypwZCKPI?si=oFIzkTLkZd-tCFiB
The interviewer specifically says there's 16 tracks and they played Thank you at the end, so maybe it will make the album afterall!
Cam'ron ****
lol …..” the mark apostrophe ( ' ) used to show that one or more letters or numbers have been left out”
His names are Cameron Ezike Giles.
That “thank you” track is dope!
Yeah, Cam mentioned 16 tracks and they played Thank You at the end of the show, so seems it’s going to be on the album after all.
I hope they haven’t moved release of the mini movie from today, waiting patiently for it.
You dont know Cam'ron?? thats his rapper name
Movie will definitely come tomorrow, Thank you is really dope they should definitely have taken it as the first singleI was thinking Tomorrow as well. I thought Dre mentioned that movie on Stephen A Smith show would drop on the 10th. But think he said 9th on Drink Champs.
All videos and posts have been deleted wtf?
Probably because there was a typo it said Death Trow
Probably because there was a typo it said Death Trow
Trailer arrived.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uLBlAQIf9A?si=SAYpmlRdiuXMUX3C
I've just had a thought come to my mind!
Maybe 'Thank you' may not be on the album, in the same way 2Pac's 'Pain' wasn't on the Above The Rim OST! It was a monster of a track and on the intro to the film but never made the album for some reason (it was released as a B-Side to Regulate though).
I never understood why it never made it on the Above The Rim OST!!!
I've just had a thought come to my mind!The track is literally featured in the mini movie for the album. It’s the only track playing throughout the trailer. Would make no sense to not include it on the album.
Maybe 'Thank you' may not be on the album, in the same way 2Pac's 'Pain' wasn't on the Above The Rim OST! It was a monster of a track and on the intro to the film but never made the album for some reason (it was released as a B-Side to Regulate though).
I never understood why it never made it on the Above The Rim OST!!!
Yes! Looking more and more likely that Thank You is on the album. I really got the impression from Drink champs that it’s Jimmy pushing the Jelly Roll and Sting joints, which makes sense due to his music background. I’m imagining that the rest of the tracks will be more in line with what we’re expecting from Dre and Snoop.Jimmy is all about pop and radio hits. No surprise here.
But not on the CD.
Don't quite understand hthe decision to have it on the tape but not on the CD!
I have it on the B-Side to the Regulate single (also includes Loyal To the Game)
Tapes allowed for a longer play time than cds. I don't think it would fit on the cd.
I've just had a thought come to my mind!It was on the cassette but wasn't enough space for the last few songs on the CD so they were bonuses on the cassette.
Maybe 'Thank you' may not be on the album, in the same way 2Pac's 'Pain' wasn't on the Above The Rim OST! It was a monster of a track and on the intro to the film but never made the album for some reason (it was released as a B-Side to Regulate though).
I never understood why it never made it on the Above The Rim OST!!!
Just got an email that my Missionary pre order is delayed until 20 December on Vinyl!!! Take what you want with that information!
They said there’s a delay with the manufacture & could be even more delayed… wonder if Thank You being potentially added has caused this!
i'm gonna say Thank You will not be part of the album (or released) because they're used the 'demo' version to promote the short film. doesn't seem like something they'd do if a 'complete' version was coming.
I think the track is now mixed, Dre would not use it unmixed in the trailer and movie
I think the track is now mixed, Dre would not use it unmixed in the trailer and movieand hard copy delays wouldn’t have occurred necessarily unless they added this last minute
and hard copy delays wouldn’t have occurred necessarily unless they added this last minute
that sounds like a good explanation...cds delayed too?
i'm enjoying it more than the stuff we've heard so far 8)
Also on the last Cam’ron podcast it says while playing Thank You!….
‘Here’s a sneak preview of one of the sounds from the album’
Definitely made the album!
it doesn't have any of the extra elements that Dre said he wanted to add or sounds like the final mix, it's the same that was played on Drink Champs. guess we'll see what happens...Dre was playing the unfinished card so if it sucked then he doesn’t look bad… but with the positive response they got they used it on the trailer, Drink Champs & also on Cam’s podcast!
it doesn't have any of the extra elements that Dre said he wanted to add or sounds like the final mix, it's the same that was played on Drink Champs. guess we'll see what happens...
Mix and Mastering should be judged on friday, listening to the entire album in high quality. These clips/leaks and audio rips always are compressed and converted.
But what I hear on the official singles is that it's very bright mixed and mastered. Maybe Dre has lost his ability to hear higher frequencies. That happens to a lot of older people. Even younger peeps have tinnitus...
But as I said, we should judge it on friday.
Mix and Mastering should be judged on friday, listening to the entire album in high quality. These clips/leaks and audio rips always are compressed and converted.
But what I hear on the official singles is that it's very bright mixed and mastered . Maybe Dre has lost his ability to hear higher frequencies. That happens to a lot of older people. Even younger peeps have tinnitus...
But as I said, we should judge it on friday.
I wish they could use ai nate dogg vocal for last dance with mary jane's chorus. They really missed a chance.
Would be dope with Anderson .Paak, doing the Jelly Roll part.
Mix and Mastering should be judged on friday, listening to the entire album in high quality. These clips/leaks and audio rips always are compressed and converted.
But what I hear on the official singles is that it's very bright mixed and mastered. Maybe Dre has lost his ability to hear higher frequencies. That happens to a lot of older people. Even younger peeps have tinnitus...
But as I said, we should judge it on friday.
I have already read from a few that Dre no longer hears so well in old age, that's why the highs are so loud, there was an interview on You tube after the Compton album of Focus, he had explained the mixing process and that they intentionally mix so high so that it highlights the voice. Sometimes they are 8 in the studio in the mixing process and Dre not alone mixed, maybe there is still the interview on You Tube
The possibilities are certainly much more extreme today when it comes to mixing, but if we take 2001 masterpiece for example, it might be because they mix the things in Atmos
I notice it in the car, I can turn up the new Snoop songs loudly and they are clear and distinct, after that Ice Cube comes on my play list they are quieter but the bass booms at the same volume that I have to turn down so that you can understand something. I find Compton worse because my loud speakers are scratching and the voices are not clean because it is too bright
The old albums of Dre are better mixed they have more bass on it and the voices are not so in the foreground, but as Focus said it is done on purpose, it had started from Compton, no idea why they find it better
Anyone else just feel lucky to be getting this project at all? It’s crazy after all these years to have this only a few days away.How I'm feeling after complaining about some of the singles! Lol.
Dre got Snoop sounding tighter than a MFer on the mic, and I gotta feeling the tracks the traditionalists are waiting on will be there (like Diary on Compton for example).
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDZ7zJFP_KR/Crazy dope ad!
CD also delayed until 18 December
Where from? My Amazon pre-order still shows 13th but could be they just haven't updated it yet.direct from UMG
Anyone else just feel lucky to be getting this project at all? It’s crazy after all these years to have this only a few days away.
Dre got Snoop sounding tighter than a MFer on the mic, and I gotta feeling the tracks the traditionalists are waiting on will be there (like Diary on Compton for example).
Anyone else just feel lucky to be getting this project at all? It’s crazy after all these years to have this only a few days away.
Dre got Snoop sounding tighter than a MFer on the mic, and I gotta feeling the tracks the traditionalists are waiting on will be there (like Diary on Compton for example).
Thank You Prod By Fredwreck & Dr. Dre
(EDIT)
https://pillowcase.su/f/05fcac81b99d0e8dd00b2c27ddc9a1a6
Would be dope with Anderson .Paak, doing the Jelly Roll part.
Naaaah. Jelly roll killed it. You should give his flowers to him.
I agree, he killed his part! It's a great song!Agree, Jelly Roll fits that record and killed it.
Naaaah. Jelly roll killed it. You should give his flowers to him.
vinyl manufactures always take long af to press records
Vinyl delayed until at least 10 January 2025 by UMG! CD’s will be available as normal on release
That is correct! I already pressed several vinyls by myself (300 pieces per album) and was able to manage the time schedules. But major labels like Interscope with one of the biggest names in the history of hip hop music are not able to plan this shit correctly? I think it's on purpose, it's called marketing. They play the "Thank You" was added last minute game... To have the internet talks, as we do now. So it's smart in a way... But a bit cheap if you ask me.
They would likely have been beginning the process before it was delayed. Often the issue is down to things like Record Store Day, National Album Day etc clogging up the plants with constant re-issues.
I just got a shipping confirmation for the cd from Amazon ? ???
I can't imagine that they already have the CD there today to arrive on Friday, if the appointment has been postponed somewhere else
Have we considered that Thank You could already be on the album but with a different title?
I also thought, there is a track .. Fire feat. Cocoa SaraiFire is 3 minutes 40 seconds, while Thank You is like 2:30
Remember when people were questioning the promotion and rollout for this album?
Seems crazy now. My social media literally has paid promotion for this album all over it. Seems like this album has been promoted on some new platform almost everyday for the last two weeks. The visuals have been crazy as well between the mini movie and the Still GIN commercial. This album is getting heavily promoted
Remember when people were questioning the promotion and rollout for this album?
Seems crazy now. My social media literally has paid promotion for this album all over it. Seems like this album has been promoted on some new platform almost everyday for the last two weeks. The visuals have been crazy as well between the mini movie and the Still GIN commercial. This album is getting heavily promoted
my sources told me tracklist is 100% going to change
:sas:
my sources told me tracklist is 100% going to change
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my sources told me tracklist is 100% going to change
:sas:
my sources told me tracklist is 100% going to change
:sas:
Just Thank You added, or something else too??
that’s all we’re allowed to say
Very interesting. If this is true and it’s off the back of the reception to Thank You online and on Drink Champs it’s kind of strange that the album wasn’t completely finished and they were still recording music that could be included.
But then again I guess Dre did this before with Doggystyle with the last minute removal of Tha Next Episode just before it went to press
that’s all we’re allowed to say
lol, you on Dre's team now? Did someone specifically have a conversation with you telling you that you're allowed to say the tracklist changed, but that's it??
that’s all we’re allowed to say
I still think that the first tracklist leaked by mistake
I find it so random and dope that Method Man is on this album. I guarantee he crushes his feature. Just not someone Dre and Snoop typically work with.
Method hasn't lost a step at all. He's been amazing on features over the last 1-2 years.
Method Man kills every track he spits on; in fact, flow wise, the only rapper touching prime Snoop has gotta be prime Method Man (too bad the original Tical got lost in the floods-I've heard Method Man on a lot of features (especially with Griselda) these past 1-2 years and he's still so good.
I’d say he’s the best rapper ever without a classic solo release ). I think they’ll make a great pair, but why Smitty gotta be on the track too?
Also, you hear Method Man is narrating the short movie they dropping?
I wonder if they realize that so people are not feeling the pop songs and are now shifting to more of a hip hop feel..I wouldn't expect the tracklist to change much. Probably just adding Thank You.
Not sure about this source, but for what it’s worth the article suggests the full mini movie won’t drop until after the album his streaming platforms.Unfortunate. Should have dropped today to build hype for Friday!
https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/music/news-everything-know-snoop-dogg-dr-dre-s-upcoming-album-missionary-dropping-friday
I've heard Method Man on a lot of features (especially with Griselda) these past 1-2 years and he's still so good.
Yup, I'm aware he narrated the short film!
track 7 is going to changeSo Thank you is IN and Pressure is OUT? That wasn’t a Sam Sneed one, was it??
So Thank you is IN and Pressure is OUT? That wasn’t a Sam Sneed one, was it??
The album was available on Spotify to pre save with the tracklist included and that’s now been removed from SpotifyYeah just saw this
not necessarily
Sam Sneed co-produced "The Negotiator", "Shangri-La", and "Skyscrapers"
It’s still on Apple with the original tracklist.Agree! Just make it 16 songs!
I hope they just add Thank You to make 16 tracks as opposed to removing one of the tracks and keeping it at 15 songs.
not necessarily
Sam Sneed co-produced "The Negotiator", "Shangri-La", and "Skyscrapers"
On DJ WhooKids IG he just posted a little bit ago a clip overdubbing the Still Gin commercial and it plays some snippets of Gunz & Smoke with Em and 50. Snoop reposted it on his IG story.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/djage/3521155300985669238?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MTd0a3lwM2k2aDIzcg==
track 7 is going to change
No changes to track listing on CD! We got them in here!
https://ibb.co/fkfyfPx
https://ibb.co/jR9mRxr
https://ibb.co/Xz3yMtv
track 7 is going to change
Surprised the album has not leaked yet, really thought that the physical albums were delayed...but looking at those pictures of DJ Age some country already have 'em. Strange things happening ;Dppl out here to lazy to rip & upload!
I will get a digital download in about 5hrs
ppl out here to lazy to rip & upload!
I will get a digital download in about 5hrs
yo Scitt - according to CD's, tracklist is not changed as you claimed?
It’s still on Apple with the original tracklist.
I hope they just add Thank You to make 16 tracks as opposed to removing one of the tracks and keeping it at 15 songs.
urban world australia :salute:
we’ll see what happens when it drops on DSPs
Ps.: hit me with a link!
;) ;)
we’ll see what happens when it drops on DSPsyeah I think they’ll add Thank You on the streaming
Dear lord. Album is a 3/5. Thank you Dr. Dre but that’s not what we wanted.
Dear lord. Album is a 3/5. Thank you Dr. Dre but that’s not what we wanted.
Dear lord. Album is a 3/5. Thank you Dr. Dre but that’s not what we wanted.Where is for listé the album ??
Mp3 rip is out
What is the tracklist?Same as before
Same as before
Sccit was capping :grumpy:
snippets (nice pop album lol)
7 songs under 3 minutes ???
https://music.apple.com/nz/album/missionary/1776700460
No snippets in Poland - it seems that tracklist is not changed?just hit the link...
I’m intrigued as to how the Sam Sneed co-productions sound like. They must be beats made a few years ago when he was up in Dre’s recording studio, or more interestingly, will they be repurposed beats from his album on the OG Death Row Records?he is credited on three songs as a producer
Not listening to snippets. Waiting for full album!
Same as beforeWait, hold on...
Sccit was capping :grumpy:
Wait, hold on...
Shit, Sccit WASN'T capping lol, Thank You was indeed added to the tracklist and it's #7 (except it didn't replace anything, it was added in between Last Dance and Pressure)
My bad homie ;D
So just to clarify, Thank you is on the album?It looks like it is after all. Well, at least in a mp3 rip that I found lol
Not sure if you are joking or not, lol
I was planning to drive to the record store tomorrow to get the CD, but not sure if I should wait to see if they will drop a delux edition with a bonus track!
Wait, hold on...
Shit, Sccit WASN'T capping lol, Thank You was indeed added to the tracklist and it's #7 (except it didn't replace anything, it was added in between Last Dance and Pressure)
My bad homie ;D
It looks like it is after all. Well, at least in a mp3 rip that I found lol
The full album is 46 minutes
It's a shame that that beat they did for Still Gin commercial is better than anything that's on the album....
Wait, hold on...
Shit, Sccit WASN'T capping lol, Thank You was indeed added to the tracklist and it's #7 (except it didn't replace anything, it was added in between Last Dance and Pressure)
My bad homie ;D
I thought so. Thanks!
And it's the proper finished track (not the rip from the Drink Champs episode)?Yeah, properly mixed and done
And it's the proper finished track (not the rip from the Drink Champs episode)?
Honestly so far this shit SLAP!
The beat switch up on 'Hard Knocks' is FIRE!!! & yes Thank You is Track 7
Im slowly eating my words on any negaive comments I made LOL...
50 rappin his ass off on 'Gunz N Smoke'! 8)
Honestly so far this shit SLAP!
The beat switch up on 'Hard Knocks' is FIRE!!! & yes Thank You is Track 7
Im slowly eating my words on any negaive comments I made LOL...
Did I understand it correctly on the cd is Thank you not on it but on the streaming platforms?
Did I understand it correctly on the cd is Thank you not on it but on the streaming platforms?Im on stream and havent checked the CD yet!!!
OK after the first listen, not as expected, really not bad, but a really bad selection as far as the singles are concernedAgree the singles definetly took us off!
Listening to the snippets it sounds really horrible...Bro dont rely on snippets....too many beat switch ups that SLAP!
I'm waiting to receive the CD :lebroncry:
this album is terrible. every new dre release since 2011 makes it more embarrassing he scrapped detox, fired his og aftermath team and switched up on everyone loyal to him. need Chad Kiser to leak not my style cuz that song better than everything on here.
Gunz N Smoke should be a SINGLE!!! Definetly has everything IMO!
What cover do you have?
This one?:
https://hmv.com/store/music/cd/missionary-(hmv-exclusive)-alternate-cover
I got the cd wit the different cover , also 15 tracks.
Yes
Ah! Have you listened to tracks 6-8 all the way through to see if Thank you is on there?
If it isn't then I will hold off from going to the store to get that version for the time being.
Not sure if the CD of the original album cover has Thank you on there....?
I listened to all the tracks, its not on it.Thank You is on my leaked version
Thank You is on my leaked version
A deluxe version coming in my opinion.
To those that have listened to the album top to bottom.
Are there skits & interludes on the album?
9 more hours and will have on Spotify…..can’t wait
Pressure feat. K.A.A.N. , shouldn't dre be heard on pressure too?
Dre is a little part of the chorus
the hook sounds like Pharrell
I thought he sounded unnatural with that flow if i'm honest.
Will be interesting to hear how Snoop & Em sound on it.
The beats from some of the snippets sound very 'Just Blaze' influenced imo
I think the album is missing a dark and gritty sound and tracks with 'warmth'. It does sound very clean and 'spacious' which has caused it to sound a but cold and souless imo
But damn, Snoop sounds tight!
Do you have a link to the leaked version?
I just want Thank You!
So just to confirm Thank You is not on the physical version but is on the Digital version?
https://streamable.com/afqaim
Hard Knocks - FIREEEEE!
Boring. (strongly disagree bro
“Hard Knocks” starts at the 19:00 min mark. Track is absolutely fire 🔥
Another sit down with Cam, strictly about the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FZ0WrLO8eA?si=Tdg9ExaTDSJWYDGL
They should have led with the hip-hop songs and then introduced the pop songs after.
Spent 2 hours online searching for this shit and can’t find nothing.
In Europe only >:(15
They should have led with the hip-hop songs and then introduced the pop songs after.
How is the track now or never, does Dre have a rap part?
I only have heard the snippets so far. I need to listen to it on big speakers in my truck. Snoops flows seem good. None of the beats so far stand out on computer speakers.
I feel like Scott Storch doesn't get enough credit for the 2001 Dre beat style , which I prefer. I am not a huge fan of what I call the "Great Gatsby" Casablanco style beats. Most of my favorite Dre beats were basically Scott Storch beats.
storch didn’t do much on 2001 outside of the keys for still dre
most of it was mel man
Didn't he do Forgot about Dre also?
storch didn’t do much on 2001 outside of the keys for still dre and a couple others.. he wasn’t even the main keyboard player on the album
most of the beats was aided by mel man
not to my knowledge … i believe he mainly played keyboard on still dre and big egos
but to call those scott storch beats is insane LOL
You cant be wronger than this."Making Still Dre" you putting a lil too much sauce on that 1. All he did was write and play the piano part. He himself has said that in several interviews.
Scott Storch and Camara Kambon were main instrumentalists for the album. Mel-man was the co producer and he was mostly resposible for drum programming.
Dr. Dre was struggling since he founded aftermath till he release 2001... most of the people says the missing link was eminem but i think missing link was scott storch.
Instead of 7 songs he is involved, Just for making "still dre" scott storch is the most important part of 2001.
Give him his flowers Sccit
You cant be wronger than this.
Scott Storch and Camara Kambon were main instrumentalists for the album. Mel-man was the co producer and he was mostly resposible for drum programming.
Dr. Dre was struggling since he founded aftermath till he release 2001... most of the people says the missing link was eminem but i think missing link was scott storch.
Instead of 7 songs he is involved, Just for making "still dre" scott storch is the most important part of 2001.
Give him his flowers Sccit
"Making Still Dre" you putting a lil too much sauce on that 1. All he did was write and play the piano part. He himself has said that in several interviews.
Storch and Elizondo made that Dre 99-2005 run a great one .
After that Dre music gradually fell off .
It's facts
Storch and Elizondo made that Dre 99-2005 run a great one .
After that Dre music gradually fell off .
It's facts
:mjlol:
camaro kambon was the main keyboardist for the album.. storch was secondary … this is facts, not my opinion homie
mel-man did wayyyyy more than storch, it’s not even close
storch was essentially a session played who was guided by dre
the only thing he came up wit on his own was the piano riff for still dre
none of this is disputable
storch himself will tell u he was nothing more than a session player
Storch:
"people say Dre doesn't do his beats but just takes the credit." Scott immediately dispels that notion. "Dre is very hands-on," he explains. "He's a very technical dude. I'll see that dude coming into studio with EQs and crazy compressors from the seventies. He programs the beats. All the stuff we did together, he orchestrated." Storch paints Dre as an absolute visionary, and rightly so.
https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/138882-scott-storch-opens-up-on-crafting-2001-with-dr-dre-on-the-breakfast-club-news
same with elizando
the glove and mel-man >>>>>>>
The Watcher
Fuck you
Still dre
Big egos
Lets get high
Bitch Niggaz
Murder Ink
Housewifes
Are the songs Scott storch is involved with.
Scott Storch proved how much he is capable of in his career.
Camara Kambon couldnt. (I love him by the way) So i believe scott storch did more than you thought for the songs he is credited as only "keyboardist".
Yeah i know the difference between being an instrumentalist, beatmaker and producer.
But without Camara Kambon, Scott Storch and Mel Man 2001 wouldnt have the same impact.
mel-man did wayyyyy more than storch, it’s not even close
Batson/Parker era was basically Storch/Elizondo era on steroids. Some of the best Dre beats of all time came out around that time. Their sound was like 2001 brought to another level. Shit Dre did on The Big Bang and TBCT still sounds incredible, and Relapse is the Em's best produced album.Big Bang Theory, BCT, Relapse phenomenal production for sure
Batson/Parker era was basically Storch/Elizondo era on steroids. Some of the best Dre beats of all time came out around that time. Their sound was like 2001 brought to another level. Shit Dre did on The Big Bang and TBCT still sounds incredible, and Relapse is the Em's best produced album.
If you really want to capture that sound minus Mel-Man - think about people who didn't get paid when the album first came out....
Stu-B-Doo (Uncredited Producer), Chris The Glove Taylor (Did Xxplosive), Colin Wolfe (Uncredited producer/musician), Drauma (Stocks Mcguire - Ghost Wrote on 2001), Bud'da (Has a Platinum Plaque from 2001, but where's his name in the credits?), and so on and so forth.
one of snoop's weakest albums
I'm not talking about Dre taking credit away from others or not being the main guy .. I'm just saying whether it was Storch and Elizondo co-producing or just playing the keys or the bass , the beats were fire .
Storch solo beats weren't as great as the ones he was involved with Dre ..
one of snoop's weakest albumsSnoop got some weak solo albums bro lol
Wrong
He was way more famous and "wanted one" for a while for east/west rappers and rnb singers.
Family Portrait by Pink
Me myself and i by Beyonce
Naughty Girl by Beyonce
Fighter by Cristina Aguilera
Lean back by Fat Joe
Candy Shop by 50 Cent
Lil bit by 50 Cent
Lets Ride by The Game
Let me love you by Mario Winans
You got me by The Roots
Lightets up by Lil Kim
Run it by Chris Brown
You aint know by Lil wayne
Time is up by Jadakiss
I can name more and more only produced by himself. He dominated 3 or 4 years of hip hop in first decade of millenium. He was way more famous and "wanted" than dr. Dre or any other producer in music industry for a while. However he owns it to dr.dre for teaching him how to produce and being a producer.
I think cop what ever hard copies you can early cause this reminds me of Doggystyle with G’z Up etc removed … my Chronic from 92 doesn’t have Bitchez Ain’t Shit but then a second copy I got had it unlisted & hidden after the outro…not sure why we get these messed up track listings but as a collector I’m happy to have the variety
storch himself will tell u he was nothing more than a session player
Storch:
"people say Dre doesn't do his beats but just takes the credit." Scott immediately dispels that notion. "Dre is very hands-on," he explains. "He's a very technical dude. I'll see that dude coming into studio with EQs and crazy compressors from the seventies. He programs the beats. All the stuff we did together, he orchestrated." Storch paints Dre as an absolute visionary, and rightly so.
https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/138882-scott-storch-opens-up-on-crafting-2001-with-dr-dre-on-the-breakfast-club-news
same with elizando
the glove and mel-man >>>>>>>
bruh i think you’re confused
storch was not even a co-producer on 2001
i’m not saying he wasn’t great at playing his role as a session player
but to credit him with being the most important piece to 2001 is INSANE
LOL
If you really want to capture that sound minus Mel-Man - think about people who didn't get paid when the album first came out....
Stu-B-Doo (Uncredited Producer), Chris The Glove Taylor (Did Xxplosive), Colin Wolfe (Uncredited producer/musician), Drauma (Stocks Mcguire - Ghost Wrote on 2001), Bud'da (Has a Platinum Plaque from 2001, but where's his name in the credits?), and so on and so forth.
The whole credit of the organization of things just falling into place for 2001 - look no further than Jimmy Iovine, Dr. Dre, and Dre's team. But as far as production, its no one's sound really apart from Dr. Dre. Not that Storch and others may need more credit, but the production is all Dr. Dre. Now onto Missionary, the snippets...are strange. I don't really know what to think of them.
Camara Kambon was also a keyboardist and session player but he was an important piece. He wasnt a co producer either. You know who dr.dre wanted to work with in his career after 2001. Scott Storch and Mike Elizondo. Not Mel Man. So it seems like he thinks he need scott and mike rather than mel man.
You overlook Scott's role in 2001. Only with his piano riff in still dre shaped the whole west coast hiphop in 2000s.
sccit to your point if storch was anything more than a session guy, he'd be working more with dre since he's gotten his life back together, i would think..
fact dre doesnt have him in the lab is because it's raining performers there now. from the icu crew to the orchestral talent he's used, etc.
You can't extrapolate anything from that reasoning. Do you definitively know what MEL-MAN ACTUALLY WANTED TO DO WITH HIS CAREER after 2001? Just because someone is working with Dre doesn't automatically mean that's what they then resign themselves to do for life.
Similarly, Dre had the Mel-Man sound for 2001. Does that mean he wants to use it forever? A good thing never remains a good thing forever. Some of the biggest succeses in music are by one time or limited collaborations.
I like mel man. He is resposible with 2001 sound. But as a solo producer he is nothing. Scott became top producers of hiphop. Dj khalil has a name in hiphop. I respect mel man. He helped dre to shape his drum programming/bassline style especially. Scott storch is another level. Without scott storch 2001 wouldnt have the same impact, dr. Dre coıldnt have his best productions without the way scott made him to follow. Even without scott storch hiphop wouldnt be the same in first decade of millenium
Camara Kambon was also a keyboardist and session player but he was an important piece. He wasnt a co producer either. You know who dr.dre wanted to work with in his career after 2001. Scott Storch and Mike Elizondo. Not Mel Man. So it seems like he thinks he need scott and mike rather than mel man.
You overlook Scott's role in 2001. Only with his piano riff in still dre shaped the whole west coast hiphop in 2000s.
I like mel man. He is resposible with 2001 sound. But as a solo producer he is nothing. Scott became top producers of hiphop. Dj khalil has a name in hiphop. I respect mel man. He helped dre to shape his drum programming/bassline style especially. Scott storch is another level. Without scott storch 2001 wouldnt have the same impact, dr. Dre coıldnt have his best productions without the way scott made him to follow. Even without scott storch hiphop wouldnt be the same in first decade of millenium
You guys have spent 2-3 pages arguing over who played the keyboard better on 2001!! FFS!
This is a 2024 Snoop and Dre album. Let’s discuss the album. Go make another thread about Scott Storch, Camera Kamdon, Mel Man, whoever else. They have nothing to do with this album.
Sooooo, I started listening to the album on a decent set of headphones while out on a walk.
All I can say is that listening it on a laptop will not do it justice at all.
Beforehand, I couldn't understand why the tracks were so short and if you listened to the tracks individually, they weren't spectacular (other than 'Thank you').
However, when you play the album from beginning to end, it makes much more sense and has a good coherent vibe to it.
I think the major downside is that there isn't a classic bangers on there as we've grown to expect but as a project i'm loving it now that i've accepted Dre is past the classic g-funk and 2001 sound. As someone previous commented, if this album suddenly dropped out of the blue and listened to it (not knowing it was produced by Dre), they will approach it differently.
Snoop sounds so good on it and the ghostwriters did a good job. There wasn't unnecessary swearing or typical S-n-double-O-P, L-B-C, 2-1-3 rhymes.
Other than Thank you, I would listen to the album in its entierty instead of there odd track here and there, as the tracks don't quite work individually in the same way
Meth killed his verse and after listening to the whole of Gunz N Smoke, I liked 50's verse more than when I first heard the snippet and i'm glad Em didn't used any silly/corny accents!
i much prefer mel man solo beats to scott storch solo beats
scott storch is dope but his best stuff just sounded like cheaper imitation of dre
Can you count 10 mel man solo beats in his all career?
I can count 20 scott storch hits that whole world knows.
Cheap dre beats? Come on! Scott has his own style. He is a jazz musician. He did lots of jazz/rnb/soul influenced hits. Even rock influenced hits. Dre has his piano-string based "dre type of beats" with scott's contribution. Funny you claim scott to make cheap dre beats. He was dominating charts in different genres.
Can you count 10 mel man solo beats in his all career?
I can count 20 scott storch hits that whole world knows.
Cheap dre beats? Come on! Scott has his own style. He is a jazz musician. He did lots of jazz/rnb/soul influenced hits. Even rock influenced hits. Dre has his piano-string based "dre type of beats" with scott's contribution. Funny you claim scott to make cheap dre beats. He was dominating charts in different genres.
bro who cares about charts, swizz beats dominated charts too
maybe calling his beats cheap is a bit exaggerated, but they are a level below dre productions with that same sound
and yes, i’m aware he started wit roots n has diff sounding beats.. but his signature style became the dre imitation stuff he was doin
6 and a half hours to go for me. Peoples reactions in different forums vary wildly from this being WAY better than anticipated to it being garbage. Looking forward to judging for myself. One thing many are saying is that Method Man kills this shit, which is no surprise.
Seeing lots of people saying the album is Dre doing his best Just Blaze impression?
6 and a half hours to go for me. Peoples reactions in different forums vary wildly from this being WAY better than anticipated to it being garbage. Looking forward to judging for myself. One thing many are saying is that Method Man kills this shit, which is no surprise.
Seeing lots of people saying the album is Dre doing his best Just Blaze impression?
Yes! outside of here, this album is anticipated and getting good feedback, and I love Just Blaze so it's not a bad thing for me.
Yes! outside of here, this album is anticipated and getting good feedback, and I love Just Blaze so it's not a bad thing for me.
that’s a lie
the coli is hating on this way worse than the dub is
pretty much, yea
This Cd sound like East Coast
Doesn't appear that the tracklist changed at all. Unless you're talking about them adding something to the digital download.
Why can’t we get that doggystyle and 2001, chronic sound for now days, it’s not about it being out dated it’s about it being better musicThose three albums are still available to listen to.
Doesn't appear that the tracklist changed at all. Unless you're talking about them adding something to the digital download.
I'm not listening to the album until I get the actual CD in the mail. Real fans buy the music. Having said that, is Thank You on this? Yes or no.
I'm not listening to the album until I get the actual CD in the mail. Real fans buy the music. Having said that, is Thank You on this? Yes or no.
Also, how long is the full album? My big concern is that it's going to be short as fucc considering songs only have two verses now. :-\
After 4 back to back spin, I have to say THANK YOU!
Refreshing, new, matured Gangsta music.
Snoop doesn’t sound lazy or repetitive like some of his projects, he sound sharp, crisp and energised.
That Slick Rick flow on Pressure beat 🔥🔥
Fire is actually fire.
Hardknocks - the beat keeps getting sweeter after every spin.
Skyscrapers with Method Man…damn….they were both rapping rapping.
Gunz N Smoke - all 3 delivered without doing too much.
I love the scheme used in Negotiator.
This album is pretty good and fresh, not going to get boring or outdated fast, like most music nowadays.
I’m going to play the shit out of this album.
No way anyone can listen to this properly and not like what these guys delivered.
Oh and definitely not a pop album like some people are saying, this is proper polished hip hop by Icons of the game.
No, it's not on there....will be digital. Might be on later reissues, who knows.
Thank you isn’t on my iTunes purchase ?? Is it different by country ?
The Australian i-Tunes store had two versions of the album to purchase, one with 15 track & the other with 16.
Best Snoop album since Doggystyle 8)
Also, how long is the full album? My big concern is that it's going to be short as fucc considering songs only have two verses now. :-\
Snoop Dogg has a spring in his step on his relentlessly interesting Dr Dre collaboration Missionary
Rapper and producer team up for the first time since their 1993 album ‘Doggystyle’
*****
“If you’re an easily offended p****, don’t worry, nobody wants to f*** you up,” runs the flight attendant-style announcement at the beginning of Missionary, Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg’s first full-length album in just over 30 years. The announcement goes on to suggest that those likely to be upset by Snoop’s unrepentant “gangsta s***” should exit the album. Everybody else should recline their seats and be prepared to soak up 15 tracks of the OG, G-Funk duo on their finest form, as Dre shuffles one cool groove after another and Snoop’s smooth flow glides and curls over the deck like smoke.
The last time the pair worked together on an album was on their era-defining Doggystyle (1993). It was a record that defined the West Coast rap sound, with Dre mixing the soul of live musicians with classic samples, while piling on the tension with slick hooks. Lyrically, the album was dominated by sexist gangsta braggadocio, with Snoop spitting playfully delivered but unabashed bars about guns, cars, drugs and pimping hoes.
When he was interviewed by The Guardian in 2011, Snoop said he didn’t regret the misogyny of his lyrics, even when challenged with the 2004 line, “You got to put that bitch in her place / Even if it’s slapping her in the face.” Married to his childhood sweetheart for decades, he did admit that having a daughter had altered his attitude to women, who he conceded were becoming more “empowered”.
Missionary still finds Snoop (now 53) referring to women (but probably also men) as “b****es” and rapping about murders and marijuana. He sounds more energised than he has in years, and there’s a compelling spring in the vocal step with which he prowls through Dre’s delectably crafted sonic cityscapes, giving props to the producer who’s “got the melodies for the felonies”.
Snoop has said that while other producers (including Pharrell) tend to bow to his star power, Dre pushes him for perfection – Dre keeps the textures shifting with a casino dealer’s dexterity. The guest list is fun too, with everyone from Jelly Roll to Sting, Eminem and 50 Cent popping in for some mic-time. “Outta Da Blue” is driven by a raw piano hook and a cowbell (look out for samples of Lisa Stansfield and The Clash). “Hard Knocks” is pure Dre drama, building from an organ riff and low-rise beat to tell a murky tale of a cold case with rhyming clues: “Alleyway/ Saturday/ DA / Matinee/ Watch me smoke a bag a day.”
“Another Part of Me” bounces from the sloshing hook of The Police’s “Message in a Bottle” with the additional falsetto scratch of Sting’s backing vocal. “Sticcy Situation” finds Cocoa Sarai sing-rapping to the tune of Suzanne Vega’s “Tom’s Diner”. There’s a wicked harmonica breezing over an acoustic guitar on “Last Dance with Mary Jane” (on which Snoop assures us he’s never giving up his weed); tangy Middle Eastern strings on “Pressure”; parping brass and swooping soul strings on “The Negotiator”. It’s relentlessly interesting – a cleverly crafted new noise around every corner.
Album Review: Missionary by Snoop Dogg
After 31 years since they teamed up for the iconic debut album, ‘Doggystyle,’ Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre reunited for a polished sequel.
Rap superstar, producer, singer, songwriter, label boss, actor, comedian, video game enthusiast, licensed football trainer, adult film producer, father, and pimp—Snoop Dogg embodies all this and probably much more. Above all, he remains one thing: a cool-ass dog. Snoop grew up in Long Beach, California. He sang in the church choir and played the piano. In the sixth grade, he began writing and rapping his lyrics. Yet none of these musical ambitions kept him from coming into conflict with the law. Even during his school days, he was repeatedly caught with drugs. Shortly after graduating high school, he was behind bars for the first time. Spending time among violent gangs was perhaps not the best idea.
However, his budding love for hip-hop offered other perspectives. Snoop formed the group 213 with his cousins Nate Dogg and Lil’ 1/2 Dead. Also on board was Snoop’s childhood friend Warren G, who happened to be Dr. Dre’s stepbrother. Dr. Dre eventually got his hands on a demo tape from the 213 crew, which caught his attention. He kept a close eye on them, invited them to his studio, and finally took them under his wing alongside Death Row Records label boss Suge Knight. Dre’s former N.W.A. colleague, The D.O.C., provided Snoop Doggy Dogg (as he now called himself) with valuable foundational knowledge.
These lessons bore fruit, as evidenced by Snoop’s prominent contributions to Dr. Dre’s 1992 album The Chronic. In this landmark G-Funk release, the young Snoop Doggy Dogg rapped himself squarely into the spotlight and the public consciousness. Gangster rap had never sounded sweeter. The Chronic hit the scene like a long-anticipated bomb. Its first single, “Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang,” would later be hailed by Rolling Stone magazine as one of the best songs of the ’90s. Snoop immediately rose to stardom and emerged as the new messiah of the genre. Expectations for his solo debut, Doggystyle—also created in close collaboration with Dr. Dre and considered the unofficial continuation of The Chronic—soared to dizzying heights.
Three years later, we’re here with Missionary and do not expect another Doggystyle because it’s unrealistic. Uncle Snoop was previously having fun in the Olympics earlier this year, and Dre, while yes, shrouded by more controversy, had quite a good year by helping produce Marsha Ambrosius’ Casablanco. Restrained by familiar formulas, “Outta Da Blue” relies on Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre’s established legacy, blending old West Coast flavors with faint Virginia-era Timbaland influences. Comforting recollections surface, never pressing into groundbreaking territory. Some parts display vocal clarity, though Alus remains disconnected, and frequently borrowed elements (a lá M.I.A.’s “Paper Planes”) weaken the structure.
Regarding “Another Part of Me,” mild satisfaction can be found. Sting’s rhythmic choice feels unusual, and The Police sample recalls earlier eras. Snoop’s attempt at melodic delivery introduces low-level contrast, yet production and lyrics remain safely moderate. Signaled by "Gorgeous," where Jhené Aiko joins under Dr. Dre and The ICU’s output, a lighter tone develops. Aiko’s hook noting night skies and distant dawn suggests small pleasures instead of daring steps forward. Although “Last Dance With Mary Jane” is a predictable flip on Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers’ “Mary Jane’s Last Dance,” he paints a vivid picture of the Snoop’s entanglement with their metaphorical muse, Mary Jane—a reference to marijuana as well as a symbol for solace and escape.
Beginning with an energizing introduction from Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre, there is an implicit promise to reinvigorate the history of their genre, capturing an aspirational zest as Snoop prepares to deliver rhymes “with some monumental shit” on “Shangri-La.” You’ll recognize the same Ahmad Jamal flip that De La Soul and Dilla did on “Stakes Is High.” This track underscores the evolution of Snoop Dogg’s artistry and influence over his “thirty summers” in the industry. Let’s get this out the way: K.A.A.N. is the secret weapon behind his rhymes because Snoop does not rap this clean with schemes and random cadences. However, it doesn’t taint that some tracks, like “Hard Knocks,” are deeply personal and introspective, with imagery that paints a portrait of struggle, ambition, and survival.
An immediate standout comes “Skyscrapers,” a discourse on success and hustle. Uncle Snoop initiates the track with a laid-back yet commanding flow, recounting his journey with a vivid imagination and wordplay reflecting triumph and introspection: “Never hear a ho tell, I’m the shit if I do say.” He uses nods to iconic California locations and elements of his legacy, intimately tying his past with the present moment. Method Man’s verse juxtaposes nicely with Snoop’s, as he steals the show by exhibiting a sharp and energetic delivery packed with clever metaphors and cultural references. “I’m hot, boss, don’t slip/In New York, I’m drippin’ with hot sauce,” cleverly aligns his verbal skill with a unique sense of swagger and chic.
We have a crown jewel with “Gunz N Smoke,” which mixes Biggie’s “Dead Wrong” vocals, bringing together industry titans 50 Cent, Snoop, and Eminem to craft a track throbbing with the raw energy of their street-hardened pasts. The opening lines echo the weight of street wisdom as 50 aligns guns with smoke, a metaphor encasing the chaotic and fraught world of survival and dominance on the streets, as captured in the line, “Drums come with the dope/Guns come with the smoke.” Snoop’s voice shines through with his characteristic laid-back delivery, spotlighting the gritty authenticity of his past and the rugged roads. Em reflects on fame and his tumultuous relationship with the world, reflecting on the pressures and misconceptions that fame brings, poignantly nested in “Guess that’s the price that you pay for all the glamour, the fame, and stardom.”
Other features include K.A.A.N. (as mentioned earlier) on “Pressure” and the vintage West Coast bop with “Sticcy Situation” with Cocoa Sarai, who also did backgrounds on multiple songs (including the Crip walking anthem, “Gangsta Pose”) but lent her Reggae-tinged vocals on “Fire,” as Snoop’s poignant irony is captured in lines like “our business is a fuckin’ warm gun,” revealing how crime and danger have become an almost institutionalized aspect of his existence. BJ the Chicago Kid appears on “Fore Play,” setting the tone on Missionary, and “Now or Never,” where Snoop reminisces about overcoming adversities with his ascension from “hood nigga to Hollywood,” as Dr. Dre’s verse complements by exuding an aura of caution amidst chaos, likening life to a constant battle where “land mines” and “banana clips” are metaphorical necessities for survival.
Missionary ends with “The Negotiator,” which is a fascinating exhibition of his seasoned artistry that blends introspection with bravado, revealing layers of his persona and career. Right from the onset, the track sets a tone of self-assurance and reflection, as illustrated by the line, “Back in this bitch with a poker face, I survive over time, I survive, everlasting.” It also references significant personal milestones, subtly acknowledging his longevity and influence, connecting his sustained success to cultural icons and historical moments, and reinforcing his impact. Even if the LP doesn’t match the caliber of his A or B-tier works, Snoop celebrates his legacy and acknowledges the commercial aspect of his art.
Snoop Dogg Drops Luxury Music On Wondrous New Album ‘Missionary’
Spoiler free album review – West coast hip-hop legend Dr. Dre embraces fun and rhythm alongside his longtime collaborator.
Snoop Dogg is upside our heads again, but this time it’s a Dr. Dre album, too. The rapper’s collaborative project Missionary has been in full promotion mode since the drop of their debut single, Gorgeous.
The two followed it up with Outta Da Blue and Another Part of Me, featuring Sting, two bangers that instantly hit and grow on the listener.
The album was promoted on several fronts, including the trickle release of its three singles without music videos. However, the duo revealed a comedic trailer modelled after a buddy partnership action movie.
What You Need To Know
It has has been anticipated for some time, with the two artists insisting on a collaboration. Both Broadus and Young have consistently made persuasive, high-quality music together, as evident during Doggy Dogg’s dry period at No Limit Records, until they reunited for songs like Buck ‘Em and B**ch Please.
The project consists of 16 tracks and is released on Snoop’s newly acquired Death Row Records and Dre’s Aftermath. The parent company, Interscope, will distribute the forty-six-minute long play.
Missionary also features appearances from Jhené Aiko, Eminem, Method Man, Sting, Jelly Roll, and Alus.
What It Sounds Like
The G-Funk sound gets a long overdue upgrade, and there is no doubt in my mind that Snoop is a pioneer of the subgenre. Over the years, the rapper has approached music with austerity, but on this new album, he has undoutedly upped his game through a fresh challenge.
While retaining the same mellow vocals he is renowned for, Broadus manages to compete with his peak form by adapting to a noticeble shift in Dre’s production.
Moving from sonic hues of dark, dramatic undertones to an upbeat manifesto of contemporary work has reinvigorated the two rappers. Their embrace of a catalogue that demonstrates a vivid transition in sound and vocalisation is unmistakable.
Verdict
⭐⭐⭐⭐
Rating: 4 out of 5.
From the cover art to the content, Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre have really gone to town on Missionary, cutting a clear hole through a veil of saturation to balance a sound that perhaps lost its way.
Streaming has negatively impacted song durations, rushed projects, and stained creativity to the point that fun is no longer an option. But this album drags us back to a place where we can nod our heads and smile a little.
However, the production may sound dated for fans seeking something new. From a commercial standpoint, it hits the spot, but hip-hop fans might want to look elsewhere.
Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg Meet Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. in Jaw-Droppingly Realistic Still G.I.N. Ad (Exclusive)
Frank Sinatra’s daughter, Tina Sinatra, called the ad "both thrilling and surreal"
Dr. Dre and Snoop meet Frank Sinatra and Sammie Davis Jr. in New Gin Ad
Courtesy of Still G.I.N.
The Rat Pack just got two unofficial new members.
A new Still G.I.N. By Dre and Snoop ad drops on Tuesday, Dec. 10, and it features rappers Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg “meeting” music legends Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. The cinematic spot brings the iconic musical artists together through AI technology and premieres during NBC’s The Voice finale (which also marks the conclusion of Snoop’s first season as a coach on the show).
The spot begins with Dre, 59, and Snoop, 53, dressed in tuxes, sauntering through an elegant nightclub as chic guests glance their way. Sinatra and Davis notice the newcomers across the crowded club and approach.
“So what’s your pleasure? What are you guys drinking?” Davis asks, to which Snoop replies, “Gin,” with Dre adding, “Still G.I.N.”
“Okay. Still G.I.N. for everybody!” Sinatra says to a cheering crowd.
The ad — which also features a surprise cameo by actress and model Lori Harvey — ends with the four musicians sitting around a table while toasting their glasses.
According to an official release the gin brand — which launched in February and is co-owned by Dre and Snoop — joined forces with their creative agency, Rosewood Creative, acclaimed director Dave Meyers, and the generative AI company Metaphysic to create the innovative ad.
“The result is a ‘what if?’ meeting that cinematically bridges past, present and future generations of superstars,” the release states.
The team also worked in close partnership with the Sinatra and Davis estates in order to ensure a faithful representation of the late stars.
Tina Sinatra, 76, said in an exclusive quote to PEOPLE that seeing an artificial intelligence replica of her father engage with the two rappers in the time-bending commercial was "thrilling and surreal."
"To see Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg alongside my dad and Sammy Davis Jr. in such a revolutionary way is both thrilling and surreal,” Sinatra’s daughter, Tina Sinatra, 76, said in a quote “It's a celebration of timeless artistry, breaking barriers, and the enduring legacy of collaboration across generations."
Per the brand, Still G.I.N. By Dre and Snoop is “defiantly smooth” and stands out as a clean, light, highly mixable modern gin. It’s currently the second product from the company — the first being the award-winning, premium sparkling gin-based cocktail Gin & Juice By Dre and Snoop.
Still G.I.N. By Dre and Snoop is 85 proof and is distilled and bottled in the U.S. It’s distributed nationally for $34.99 through Southern Glazer’s Wine and Spirits.
Can confirm CD doesn’t have Thank You. But noticed stores stocked only a few! They know it’s not the release they want & Thank You needs to be added!so they fucked it up completely what an amateur job lol and two versions on digital platforms? what a mess
Snoop Dogg And Dr. Dre Reunite For New Album ‘Missionary’
Grammy-winning producer Dr. Dre has been by Snoop Dogg’s side since the start of the rapper’s career more than three decades ago, with Snoop’s 1993 debut album Doggystyle instantly putting him on the map thanks to the smash single “Gin and Juice” and other Dr. Dre-produced hits. Now, fresh off the 30th anniversary of the album, the two Super Bowl halftime headliners have joined forces once again for the new album Missionary.
Missionary marks the twentieth studio album of Snoop Dogg’s career, and the landmark album arrives as the SoCal-bred rapper basks in the glory of his wide-reaching empire from the kitchen with Martha Stewart to the Olympic torch relay. When speaking about teaming up with Dr. Dre once again for the album, the “Drop It Like It’s Hot” MC said Dre was able to bring out a new side of him as an artist at 53. “When you hear what we have and how he’s got me rapping, it's like a grown Snoop Dogg. There's some growth to him. It's the way he selects his bars, it's the way he uses his voice,” he said on the All the Smoke podcast back in January.
“[Dr. Dre] uses me like a f**king robot and I love it because I love to be produced. I love to be challenged,” he continued. “If I’m being produced, we’re creating this piece together, and this s**t is masterful because my voice is a part of your music. It is actually an instrument, as opposed to it just bouncing around the track. Use my voice like a f**king instrument. Let me be a part of the music.” He added that all of his collaborations with Dr. Dre have been like this. “Every song that you’ve ever heard from Dre and Snoop, my voice is never on top; it’s always in there because it’s an instrument. That’s what he’s doing. He’s using me as an instrument right now to create this masterful album.”
Throughout the album, the dynamic duo bring in a wide variety of guest stars from Eminem, Method Man, and 50 Cent to Sting, Jelly Roll, and Jhené Aiko. Snoop’s reunion with Dre came, he said, after the producer noticed that the rapper’s music today needed to match the same all-star level of name recognition with other pursuits and products. “[Dre] was watching me in the entertainment world and figuring that my music hand ain’t matching my entertainment hand,” Snoop told The Associated Press. “He wanted to put music back in the foreground with his production, leadership, and guidance on the project.”
I'm not listening to the album until I get the actual CD in the mail. Real fans buy the music. Having said that, is Thank You on this? Yes or no.
Also, how long is the full album? My big concern is that it's going to be short as fucc considering songs only have two verses now. :-\
This album suprises me. It sounds fresh, innovative. A no skip album for me, just like Chronic, Doggystyle and 2001.it’s a dope album but I find myself skipping the singles… also wish it was a little bit longer!
so they fucked it up completely what an amateur job lol and two versions on digital platforms? what a mess
it’s a dope album but I find myself skipping the singles… also wish it was a little bit longer!
Just bought the album and I'm lookin' at the credits. How did Sam Sneed end up working on this album?once again it’s the man with the master plan, they call him Sam & I think you better recognize!
once again it’s the man with the master plan, they call him Sam & I think you better recognize!
After my first listen I am impressed. Gotta give it up to Snoop and Dre. Love the vibes of this album and obviously the fact that Dre got Snoop sounding as good as ever. The album sounded cohesive after the 1st play. Also not too long or too short, just right. All the features worked and contributed nicely to the album.
Snoop Dogg reclaims and refines his West Coast gangsta roots with help from Dr. Dre on ‘Missionary’
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The highlight of this year’s Paris Olympics was a 53-year-old rapper from Long Beach.
Snoop Dogg — out on assignment as an NBC commentator — carried the Olympic torch through the suburb of Saint-Denis. He spiced up a badminton match between the United States and China — “As you see, it don’t stop ’til the casket drop.” He grooved with gymnasts Simone Biles and Jordan Chiles and donned dressage boots with his pal Martha Stewart.
“I was just trying to embody all of the things as a kid that I remembered about the Olympics,” Snoop said, in an interview in his trailer on the set of “The Voice” in December. “Respecting what it takes to become a professional on that level. Trying to bring my Snoop Dogg flavor to the table.”
Fans may have assumed this was Snoop’s new milieu. A gently-graying singing-competition judge on “The Voice.” Long Beach’s Olympics ambassadeur.
But Snoop Dogg the MC, the laconic voice who defined West Coast gangsta rap in the ’90s, never left us. On Friday, he’ll release “Missionary,” a much-anticipated spiritual successor to his 1993 debut “Doggystyle,” and a decades-in-the-making reunion with producer and mogul Dr. Dre.
The album’s existence is historic, a reminder of how singular these two are in a studio. But after Kendrick Lamar’s “GNX” rallied the world south of the 10 Freeway, “Missionary” says something important about how West Coast rap matures gracefully.
“Dre’s hungry, just like I’m hungry,” Snoop said. “He knows what he wants sonically and what I want vocally. I don’t want to rap like a 19-year-old. The perspective I’m speaking from is a grown-ass man that survived. I’ll never lose that spirit of a young MC, but I have to make a record for who I am.”
In 1993, Snoop’s debut “Doggystyle” shocked the world.
“This is his very first album, but at this point Snoop Doggy Dogg may be the most famous rapper in the world,” The Times’ Jonathan Gold wrote then. The LP’s tales of lascivious sex and brash violence were bolstered by exquisite G-funk musicianship: “No rapper has ever occupied a beat the way Snoop does, sliding around corners, lounging on the syncopations.” Dre’s production “takes hip-hop to another level ... Organic yet relentless, the air alive with sleigh bells, sighs, countermelodies.”
A whole lot has happened in West Coast hip-hop in the interim: the bicoastal gang rivalry that claimed the lives of Tupac Shakur and the Notorious B.I.G. Snoop’s acquittal for murder in 1996. Death Row Records dissolving in acrimony. Dre discovering Eminem and 50 Cent. Snoop playing the Kennedy Center and investing in weed, tech, food and cocktails. Dre selling his headphone company Beats Electronics to Apple to become hip-hop’s first billionaire.
Today, Snoop cuts much the same figure as he did in the ’90s — tall and lean, with cascading braids and a warm, quippy demeanor peppered with his distinct slang. He’s earned 11 top 10 albums and hit singles like the inimitable Pharrell Williams jam “Drop It Like It’s Hot.”
But he admits that “the young demographic don’t know the old Snoop Dogg. They don’t know the rapper,” he laughed.
“They only know that I have to cater to all of my audiences, the Martha Stewart audience. I had to make my own version of CoComelon, Doggyland, because I was tired of my grandkids not paying attention to me. I have to be a classy adult around them. But now I get to go back to my gangsta crowd and be gangsta again.”
Neither Snoop nor Dre expected that it would take them 31 years to make another full album together as rapper and producer respectively. But anyone who saw them headlining Coachella in 2012 could tell you they never lost that alchemy.
“Missionary” harks back to their crowning achievement together — the title gives it away. It’s coming out on Snoop’s old label Death Row Records, which Snoop bought back the rights to in 2022. The guests traverse Dre’s vast catalog, with cameos from Eminem and 50 Cent, and big samples and cameos from Sting, Jelly Roll and the late Tom Petty.
“It’s like Michael Jordan finding Phil Jackson again,” Snoop said. “Dre was figuring ‘Look, let me put you back in a musical position like you need to be in. Star-power-wise, you’re there, but people forgot you made music because you do so much. Let me put you back in the perspective where music is your foreground.’”
“No one produces me better than Dr. Dre,” Snoop continued. “But I had to go back and become a student and be humbled and take direction.”
Lyrically, the album is firmly in the present, an LP fondly looking back on a ferocious youth from several lifetimes later. Two generationally important artists with nothing to prove but plenty left to accomplish.
“This is a passion project of mine,” Dre said in a rare interview with The Times. “I’ve been dying to get back in the studio with my brother Snoop for years. Snoop has never went anywhere, but to be honest with you, I wished he would sit down and just focus on something. So I think that my approach was to show the growth and where we’ve come over the last 30 years. The lyrics can’t get too far away from the streets, but we also have to show a level of maturity over the years.”
To hear the two of them back swapping tawdry bars on “Outta Da Blue” and dancing all over the jittery funk of “Pressure” is to be dropped right back into whatever weed-strafed house party made you fall in love with L.A., their two voices inseparable from SoCal’s identity. On “Gunz & Smoke,” Snoop re-stakes his claim on his beloved hometown — “Bullet holes in the palm trees, Dirty money in the laundry / 10 toes in the concrete, n— know where to find me.”
He drops some spit-take funny lines about his age on “Sticcy Situation” — “Look at daddy Warbucks / Huh, I probably had your auntie on my tour bus,” and eyes today’s rap culture with a familiar jaundice: “Times are changin’, young n— is dangerous / Rich and shameless do anything to be famous … Once upon a time the Dogg went through it all / Withdrawals and breaking laws, the streets under my paws.”
“There’s one thing about rock, country or jazz — no matter how old they get, this s— is good,” Snoop said. “It’s not based off of the past. I come from hip-hop where it was a must to be original, to be fly every time you came out and not do nothing twice. To me, it’s an opportunity to prove that I am one of the top MCs of all time, and I’m gonna milk that moment.”
On “Last Dance With Mary Jane,” they cleared a holy grail of a Tom Petty sample as the song’s backbone. Dre and Petty were connected through Interscope founder Jimmy Iovine, and Petty (a fellow cannabis fan) seemed to anticipate Dre and Snoop would use it one day.
“I have this video clip with Tom Petty saying ‘If Dre ever samples the song Mary Jane’s Last Dance, he’s going to have an instant hit on his hands,’” Dre said. “It comes along with a massive amount of trust. And you know, Snoop’s putting his entire career and his legacy and everything that he’s built in my hands. So I have to really nurture that and make sure it’s presented in the right way.”
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Snoop Dogg poses for a portrait ahead of his new album "Missionary." on Monday, Dec. 9, 2024 in Los Angeles, CA.
“Missionary” comes right on the heels of Kendrick Lamar’s modern West Coast masterpiece “GNX” (“Maybe it is a cosmic coincidence, but it’s really weird that all this is happening at the same time from our circle,” Dre said). Snoop shared a stage with Dre and Lamar at the 2022 Super Bowl, but came in for a bit of a ribbing on the track “wacced out murals,” where Kendrick chided Snoop for posting a clip with his nemesis Drake’s diss track in the background.
Snoop handled it with typical good humor — “It was the edibles. west west king,” he tweeted. But Snoop acknowledged it was a changing of the guard.
“We’re family so I didn’t take it no other way but the right way,” Snoop said. “He’s the King of the West right now. There was a time where I was the King of the West, where it was my job to handle the responsibility of making sure the West was riding the right way. That’s his job right now, and he’s doing an amazing job.”
The two were first ready to showcase their reunion last year, for a Hollywood Bowl run celebrating the 30th anniversary of “Doggystyle.” They called off the dates, however, in solidarity with striking entertainment workers. “I work with these people, and I knew that me standing with them would help make Hollywood understand that we need to get these people paid,” Snoop said. “My voice is big. If Snoop Dogg is standing up, we don’t want him to be against us.”
Other markers of time have begun to sink in too. Losing Quincy Jones, a longtime friend and mentor to Snoop, was painful. “We were very close. His daughter Kidada was a good friend of ours even before she met Tupac,” Snoop said. “When I got my star on the Walk of Fame, he asked to come give a speech. I’m like, ‘How the f— did Quincy Jones come and give a speech? I ain’t done enough to be here.’”
But most harrowing were when Dre suffered three strokes and a brain aneurysm back in March, after Snoop’s daughter Cori suffered her own stroke at 24 this year. The two health crises shook Snoop, a devoted husband and family man.
“It affected me mentally, physically and spiritually,” Snoop said, briefly growing somber. “There’s only so much you can do for these situations, but you can try to be in full support of their rehabilitation. I was always there for my daughter. She’s getting stronger and better, and it makes me feel even better to know that me and Dre still have our same friendship from day one.”
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Even as he revives his old gangsta mystique on “Missionary,” talking about family seems to bring something tender out in Snoop. When a Times reporter mentioned that his mom was coming out to visit L.A. for the holidays, and that she was curious to sample the wares at his Inglewood weed store SWED, Snoop’s eyes lit up.
“My mom passed recently, and anytime I hear the word ‘mom,’ and your mom is still here, she’s gonna get blessed,” Snoop said. “I may just roll one up for her so she can have one rolled by the D-O-double-G.”
He riffled through his backpack and divvied up a few nugs from his florid personal stash, a welcome gift to the West Coast.
“That’s that Death Row top of the line,” Snoop said, inhaling deeply. “Mommy, I love you.”
Now or Never is dope!!!!!! Rral Hiphop shit
Ps: if you listen to this project on your phone or computer, you will hate it.
so they fucked it up completely what an amateur job lol and two versions on digital platforms? what a mess
You definitely need a decent system to appreciate the details of the production.
I personally recommend listening to it from beginning to the end on a decent set of ear/headphones while going for a walk.
Now or Never is dope!!!!!! Real Hiphop shit
Ps: if you listen to this project on your phone or computer, you will hate it.
The sound on Missionary definitely feels too sharp, and it’s largely due to the evolution of Dr. Dre's production style over the years. Dre's work on 2001 was groundbreaking, with deep bass, atmospheric synths, and crisp drums that defined the West Coast sound. The mix was warm and immersive.
However, as time has passed, Dre has shifted towards a more polished, "brighter" sound, influenced by newer trends and technologies. The highs are more pronounced, and the bass feels less heavy, which can feel less organic compared to the darker, layered production of 2001. Dre has also been influenced by newer producers and musical movements, leading to a departure from the classic "G-funk" style that made him famous.
Overall Trends in Post-2006 Dr. Dre Productions:
Bright vs. Warm: The most noticeable difference between Dre's earlier work (pre-2006) and his later productions is the brightness of the mix. In his earlier work, the sound was warmer with more emphasis on bass and midrange frequencies. In his post-2006 work, the balance has shifted towards a more bright and sharp sound, with higher frequencies (particularly the treble) more emphasized.
Modern Mixing Techniques: The evolution in frequency balance may also reflect the influence of modern mixing and mastering techniques. Today, there is a tendency toward cleaner mixes with more separation of elements, and less reliance on overwhelming low-end power. Additionally, advancements in digital technology and the loudness war (which strives for maximizing volume) could lead to a more polished, high-frequency emphasis to ensure tracks stand out in a compressed, high-volume digital space.
Crisper, Cleaner Production: With the influence of newer producers and trends, Dre’s sound has become more clinical and less organic. This is particularly true in the higher frequencies, where the clarity and presence of instruments (especially percussion) have become more prominent, sometimes at the cost of the "richness" and depth that characterized his earlier work.
Conclusion:
The shift from Dre’s pre-2006 sound (which emphasized warm, deep bass and smooth midrange) to the more bright and high-frequency-focused production style of Missionary, The Contract EP, and Compton can be attributed to both an evolution in Dre’s personal taste (or his ear-fatigue?) and the broader trends in hip-hop and music production. While this new approach might feel jarring to some longtime fans who loved the deeper, more layered sound of Dre's earlier albums, it's clear that Dre has adapted to modern expectations, embracing a cleaner, more polished, and "brighter" sound that aligns with current music production trends.
I agree. Think about it: they are incentivizing us NOT to buy the album now and wait for a later pressing with Thank You. So STUPID. And this is a big budget studio album.
Is it any wonder why the retail music business is on hard times?
So what would be the solution if you were in their shoes? The album was already pressed some time ago and shipped out. Thank You was a last minute addition to the album thanks to fan feedback. So the options were to do it the way they are doing it now, which you say is STUPID.....or not put Thank You on the album at all (streaming or hard copy) which will make everyone mad. OR, delay the release date, after all the hype and promotion for the 13th, recall and destroy all the existing copies of the album and repress and reship with THANK YOU on it.
Of the possible options, this is the best they could do.
I wouldn't categorize Dr.Dre's sound as GFunk, as a matter of fact throughout his career, he did all he could to stay away from it. This ideology is fan made.
Also, about the new producers...Fred wreck and Focus are all over this new album. They ain't new comers.
There is nothing trendy about this album. Nothing at all.
So i hear everyone talking about how impressed they are with the mixing of the album. Impressed with how Snoops flow and delivery is on the album. But how are the actual songs? Do they have any replay value or think years from now you can pick out a handful of songs and put them in a hip hop mixtape and bump them?
It's like looking at a work of art, like a painting, and can be impressed with the brush strokes and the vision of the artist and the technique they used to create the painting, but when you step back and look at the painting hanging on the wall, it's just an ugly blob of colors.
I get that vibe that's how most of you are describing Missionary.
Don't know what to say about this album, obviously well produced to perfection with Dre--got the Sting joint on replay.
...but i'm just not sure at their age and at this stage in rap's decline that they can really do it anymore. This is probably the best they can do. So I'll try to enjoy it a bit. When it comes to old age come backs they are possible, I think Xzibit might end up pulling it off better than Snoop when we see the final product from Xzibit.
It seemed maybe they was trying to go too mainstream and the "icon" angle which doesn't really work in hip--hop, hip-hop is more about hunger and going for yourz
My brother said he cringed during the Sting song. I agree the Dre part is corny. That being said I enjoy it more than I thought I was going to. I agree also that Snoop reached a level of commercial fame that is hard to take serious. Dude is literally everywhere. Good for him and he is getting his bag but putting Death Row chains on The Voice contestants is next level corny and devalues that brand. Death Row is supposed to have a gangsta image.
Snoop Dogg – Missionary
A Dre-powered testimony to West Coast hip-hop...
ClashMusic
Snoop Dogg has never rested on his laurels, never allowed his back catalogue to supersede his current plans. The 21stcentury has brought a host of projects, musical and otherwise, with Snoop arguably transcending rap to become cherished part of American pop culture more generally. Fresh from having a ball at the Paris Olympics, ‘Missionary’ dials into his roots – the title is a self-conscious echo of almighty debut album ‘Doggystyle’, while old friend Dr. Dre comes on board as producer. An eager act of fan service, the results represent one of his most consistent records from the past 20 years.
Anyone who’s encountered Snoop Dogg before will know what to expect. This is sheer West Coast hip-hop, matching rubberfunk beats to his playful flows. There are marijuana references a-plenty, with the rapper seizing on the cartoonish aspects of his persona and claiming them as his own.
There’s plenty to absorb here. Early highlights like ‘Shangri-La’ and ‘Outta Da Blue’ snap hard, the latter with a neat ‘Paper Planes’ interpolation. Method Man guests on ‘Skyscrapers’, and it’s a neat collaboration from two all-timers. ‘Now Or Never’ has a great BJ The Chicago Kid feature, while the sombre ‘Last Dance With Mary Jane’ lifts from the Tom Petty classic to probe Snoop’s life-long infatuation with the sweet leaf.
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The production, too, is note-worthy. Now perhaps known as a leading music industry figure and business mogul, Dr. Dre serves up some excellent beats, with some nimble sonic moments alongside. The rugged keys on ‘Gorgeous’ for example are undiluted West Coast funk, while ‘Gangsta Pose’ oozes don’t-f*ck-with-me energy.
That said, not everything lands. ‘Gunz N Smoke’ has an incredible guest cast, but the features from 50 Cent and Eminem are forgettable; equally, the Sting sample on ‘Another Part Of Me’ doesn’t quite fit the broader sonic themes on the record.
But perhaps that’s churlish. Snoop Dogg has worked relentlessly these past decades, but it hasn’t always met his lofty standards – entertaining-if-sight diversions in reggae and gospel, albums that have often felt patchwork. Aligning with Dre across the full breadth of the record, ‘Missionary’ is one of rap’s most iconic voices doing what he does best.
7/10
Snoop Dogg – ‘Missionary’ review: an underwhelming sequel to a hip-hop classic
As a follow-up to the history-making ‘Doggystyle’, ‘Missionary’ swaps out its predecessor’s hedonistic charm for some more mature nuggets of wisdom
NME
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It’s been over 30 years since Snoop Dogg dropped the Dr Dre-produced ‘Doggystyle’ – the album that brought G-funk to the world. The duo pioneered West Coast hip-hop, making being gangster fun and pop-friendly compared to the gritty real rap of Ice-T and NWA. ‘Missionary’ doesn’t follow in the footsteps of the history-making hip-hop classic, though. Instead, Dre and Snoop wanted to “show a different level of maturity” with a motivational – yet unpolished – record to close out 2024.
Although it’s named after a sex position, nothing about ‘Missionary’ screams sensual. The closest attempt to this is ‘Gangsta Pose’, on which Snoop raps: “Don’t stop, visionary / On top, missionary / Legs up, on your belly / Then, I’m back up in the chef’s”. Despite the salacious start, it turns into another lesson from Uncle Snoop about confidence and having to “gangster lean through this life”.
The album is more so a glitzy, Hollywood-style free-for-all than full of pleasure-seeking anthems, where the likes of the late Tom Petty, Jelly Roll, 50 Cent and Eminem join Snoop on tracks to toe the line between inspirational and relatable. The results are a little hit-or-miss, especially in the features department: Petty’s droning hook on ‘Lady Mary Jane’ (an ode to the West Coast icon’s beloved marijuana) is an uncomfortable listen. Eminem’s staccato flow on ‘Gunz n Smoke’ feels dull against 50 Cent and Snoop’s entertaining laidback braggadocio as they tell tales inspired by their gritty pre-fame lifestyles.
Not everything on ‘Missionary’ flounders, most surprisingly so on ‘Another Part of Me’, where Snoop takes on psychedelic rock with Sting. Although the sound throws off the album’s overall cohesion, it’s an enchanting one-off that isn’t a tacky venture into another sound. The same can’t be said of ‘Fire’, the random and disastrous reggae song that makes you glad Snoop Dogg is Snoop Lion no more.
Occasionally, there are even moments that hark back to Snoop and Dre’s glory days. ‘Outta Da Blue’ is another classic from the pair as they go back and forth over a nostalgic, ’80s-style beat, making a beautiful nod to hip-hop’s early days. But outro track ‘The Negotiator’ is really where Dre’s expert production and Snoop’s signature chillness align the best. As the cinematic strings, hypnotic jabs of the guitar and dreamy chimes lay the foundation for Snoop to take his victory lap, he reflects on how far he’s come to have his “name on the [Hollywood] Walk of Fame right next to Lenny Kravitz”.
‘Missionary’ is an underwhelming sequel where the inspirational tone feels forced, and the sonic versatility hinders the whole project. Dre and Snoop forgot the legacy they created for the West Coast with ‘Doggystyle’ and – although there are flashes of fun – the forgettable collection barely scratches the surface of their legendary status.
I'm sorry but for those who say it is well mixed, i'm sitting here with professional studio speakers and it is not well mixed at all... super treebly and harsh, serious lack of basse... i switched back to 2nd to none Up In Da club to recalibrate my ears and i was like ok it is not me being tired or my speakers, that missionary album is harsh as a mutha fuck@, don't listen on phone speakers and says it sounds superb lol ....
Snoop performance at The Game Awards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1ciDvNH84A?si=j0RWixZpLRhDsEMb
once again it’s the man with the master plan, they call him Sam & I think you better recognize!
Rolling Stones
ALBUM REVIEW
Dr. Dre Helps Bring Out the Best in Snoop Dogg on ‘Missionary’
Their first full-length collaboration since Doggystyle is a celebration of strengths, displaying Snoop's growth while underlining his congenial gangsta appeal
***1/2
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On “Sticcy Situation,” off Snoop Dogg’s ambitious new album, Missionary, which is his second full-length collaboration with mentor Dr. Dre, the golden-voiced star proclaims, “Multi-platinum gangsta shit/Who did it before us?” And 31 years after dropping Doggystyle, his rebellious diamond-selling debut, he cuts right to the heart of his and Dre’s atom-shifting allure. The bass on “Sticcy Situation” stabs your spleen, and the pianos, straight out of a classic mafioso flick, brand you an overeager accomplice in lighthearted larceny. Snoop’s snarl is mellower on this long-awaited LP — no wonder when the foremost gangsta rapper is a 50-something bestie of Martha Stewart — but the bars are signally wry, crisp, and wicked.
Heady, give-no-fucks flows (and bold-name magnetism) typified Doggystyle, which was everywhere, like Mickey D’s, despite its blush-worthy cover art and lead single, which defiantly asked, “What’s my motherfucking name?” when mainstream rappers were, comparatively, as soft as the Elmo doll. 60 years before Snoop philosophized about a young G’s perspective, the critic Walter Benjamin noted that all great works either dissolve a genre or invent one. Doggystyle didn’t invent gangsta rap. But, notably, rapturously, it damn sure dissolved it. Suddenly, it was all about big hooks, bright melodies, and sing-along anthems that belied the dark, Dre-produced songs. “Gin and Juice” was Long Beach and Compton to the core but felt tailor-made for some giddy heartland kegger. Far from violent, “Who I Am (What’s My Name?)” is salacious bravado amenable enough for Monday night karaoke. Back when Newsweek put the Long Beach MC on its cover, wondering, “When Is Rap Too Violent?” there was a sadistic irony in scapegoating the one megastar who, it turns out, wasn’t much about violence.
One beaten murder charge (broadcast for the ages circa a moving Video Music Awards performance in which Snoop declared, “I’m innocent! I’m innocent!”) and 19 solo LPs later, this project with Dre is a celebration of strengths, displaying his growth while underlining his congenial gangsta appeal.
Nothing on Missionary is quite as explosive as his classic Dre-helmed confessional “Murder Was the Case.” (Never mind that Snoop has never delved that deep since his long creative estrangement from the Compton O.G.) Since at least The Blue Carpet Treatment — his seductive 2006 sleeper — the vibes have been posh and diplomatic (not tight and territorial). Suddenly, Snoop became everybody’s uncle. Dre probably always knew that the guest features on a Snoop Dogg project emboldened his friend, allowing him to shine while distilling the Greek chorus into a funked-out support group. This time out, the guests include everyone from Eminem and 50 Cent (on the underwhelming “Gunz N Smoke”) to Method Man to BJ the Chicago Kid to Sting.
To that end, he manages at least one heartfelt heater here, sporting a celebrated rock icon. The rootsy “Last Dance with Mary Jane,” featuring Jelly Roll and a wistfully rendered sample of the titular Tom Petty classic, is a gorgeous and cozy freefall down memory lane. There’s a late-harvest glint to the guitar here, distinctly offset by a roadhouse stomp, punctuating Snoop’s poignant reminiscences. Flexing the ganja-as-metaphor theme (”I used to flip bags with her/Skip class with her”), Snoop admits that Buddha helped him cope — as a 17-year-old “serving fiends,” and when he was locked up, enduring those “county blues.” Of course, Snoop has jammed with everyone from Willie Nelson to the Gorillaz to the late Quincy Jones, but he’s never sounded so pure and contemplative.
“Pressure,” which sports a wonky bass note and brash snares, finds Uncle Snoop kicking hard bars, rendered impeccable by his patented L.B.C.-by-way-of-Mississippi lilt. It’s just a thrill to hear him rap for two-plus minutes — his cadence maintains that same sticky crescendo found on anthems like “Gz and Hustlaz” which, similarly, is an all-Snoop affair, minus any guest verses. Meanwhile, the ribald “Outta Da Blue” is, once again, a Snoop-and-Dre tandem built to decimate speakers. Over fervid pipe drums — pulled from Schoolly D’s 1986 salvo, “Saturday Night” — the two vets feed off one another more seditiously than Ren and Stimpy. “Bottles and bitches, believe we back in business,” Snoop asserts before Dre cozies in with, “The sonic still iconic, they still sniffing the product,” reminding us why these two made the leaf more infamous than Adam and Eve.
Though “Fire,” with its faux-ragga musings, feels like a misstep, the Sting-fueled “Another Part of Me” is a genuine moment of transcendence wherein Snoop bares his soul, singing about how he gets by in “the land of the lost and the scandalous.” It plays like a soon-to-be-stadium filler — the chords conjure sunsets during the last stretch of a summer tour. But the aura is straight-up emo, giving Snoop a woozy troubadour vibe. And that feels new, given that he’d dropped, like, his 10th album the year your favorite SoundCloud rapper was born. But nothing is touching the militant peel of “Hard Knocks,” wherein Snoop, over vigorous organs, sneers, “Let’s get this shit in order, I’m at the top of the totem,” hinting that Missionary is perfectly positioned to blow up.
So i hear everyone talking about how impressed they are with the mixing of the album. Impressed with how Snoops flow and delivery is on the album. But how are the actual songs? Do they have any replay value or think years from now you can pick out a handful of songs and put them in a hip hop mixtape and bump them?
It's like looking at a work of art, like a painting, and can be impressed with the brush strokes and the vision of the artist and the technique they used to create the painting, but when you step back and look at the painting hanging on the wall, it's just an ugly blob of colors.
I get that vibe that's how most of you are describing Missionary.
My top 5 Snoop album before this was:
1.Doggystyle
2. Tha Last Meal
3. Top Dogg
4. Blue Carpet Treatment
5. Doggfather
This is definitely changing, by Monday, Missionary is going into top 3 for me.
I'm sorry but for those who say it is well mixed, i'm sitting here with professional studio speakers and it is not well mixed at all... super treebly and harsh, serious lack of basse... i switched back to 2nd to none Up In Da club to recalibrate my ears and i was like ok it is not me being tired or my speakers, that missionary album is harsh as a mutha fuck@, don't listen on phone speakers and says it sounds superb lol ....
WHEWWWWW STICCY SITUATION
I'm sorry but for those who say it is well mixed, i'm sitting here with professional studio speakers and it is not well mixed at all... super treebly and harsh, serious lack of basse... i switched back to 2nd to none Up In Da club to recalibrate my ears and i was like ok it is not me being tired or my speakers, that missionary album is harsh as a mutha fuck@, don't listen on phone speakers and says it sounds superb lol ....
kinda weird, but the spotify version sounded much thicker than the apple version on the low end
almost like they used 2 different masters
still tryna digest before i give a final conclusionLeave Compton alone man lol the last Dre album before this was Marsha's. This is a Snoop album produced by Dr.Dre, Compton is basically a compilation and Snoop is on one song if I recall. If Missionary is to be compared, it shouldnt be with Compton!
there’s some good stuff on here… some ok stuff on here…. overall not what we expect from dre n snoop but it’s not flat out whack
on first listen, compton was much better
3.5 is a low rating for this album. It’s at least a 4/5.
For people who don’t like the album, I’m curious as to what albums you would rank above this that have come out in the last couple years?
3.5 is a low rating for this album. It’s at least a 4/5.
For people who don’t like the album, I’m curious as to what albums you would rank above this that have come out in the last couple years?
Leave Compton alone man lol the last Dre album before this was Marsha's. This is a Snoop album produced by Dr.Dre, Compton is basically a compilation and Snoop is on one song if I recall. If Missionary is to be compared, it shouldnt be with Compton!
I agree with his vocal deliveries as well yes but again the songs are pretty bland and no catchy rythyms at all , just mid
Oh fuck off this is not better than top Dogg blue carpet or last meal you guys are hilarious
I’ve listened all the way through twice now…gonna reserve judgment until a few more listens.
But anyone else BLOWN AWAY by Snoop’s vocal
Performance on this shit? The flows, the melodies, etc. He hasnt sounded this hungry and creative for an entire album in 30 years…too bad the subject matter is tired (what happened to mature lyrics lol?) but that’s what is expected with Snoop I guess
TBH to me it sounds like they mixed that for the new generation who listen to earbuds or their mobile phone speakers, it is very high mid centered, very low bass and quite harsh on the vocals.
i liten with some studio neumann speakers and a pair of focal headfones, it blew my mind when i heardit as it doesnt sounds like some Dre' s team mix, it is very modern and digital not in a pleasing way to me...
fuck you talkin bout dude
the vocals are pretty damn silibant on like 2/3 of the album. i guess put some hi-fi EQ on there and don't listen to this thing on a clear system for the best experience :laugh: probably sounds good in Dre's studio which has a billion times more bass than your average stereo.
Thank You is genuinely the best track, something about this one is very high-energy, catchy & replayable 8)
You keep mention and comparing to COMPTON
and?
that was the last hip hop album fully produced by dre
people are always going to draw comparisons between bodies of work
get over it cuzz
i dont have an average stereo though but pro monitoring lol, agree with the sibilant sound. drums are too live too it looses the hip hop dimension sonics.
that is a very mid project to me, dont get why ppl are wowed
I’ve listened all the way through twice now…gonna reserve judgment until a few more listens.Yup Snoop sounds incredible on here and that's the Dr. Dre effect. Someone actually holding him to a standard.
But anyone else BLOWN AWAY by Snoop’s vocal
Performance on this shit? The flows, the melodies, etc. He hasnt sounded this hungry and creative for an entire album in 30 years…too bad the subject matter is tired (what happened to mature lyrics lol?) but that’s what is expected with Snoop I guess
yup there's no warmth it's just brittle & cold sounding, digital like you said. but who are we to question Dre :laugh:
Compton was not touched by Dre, but by his team of 20 producers, it was done in 2 weeks from what i remember...
lol what are you talking bout bruh
dre produced compton in the same way he produced missionary …. with a team of musicians under him …. the ICU (minus fredwreck)
CD focused primarily on commercial performance plus promotion of the drink.
I think that is the most fair comment so far
Just updated with full Production Credits, as always. :bandit:Thanks!
https://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php/topic,343960
nice album!
have to put the hiphop filter on apple music though (just found out)
skyscrapers, hard knocks, sticky situations pff great tracks.
intros nice; they carry outta da blue to a more digestable level (still some horrible shit going on there - but that bass and dre flow hit).
other songs all nice.
i only have to skip thank you.
the album has a bit of that 70s blaxploitation/orchestra funk mixed with some English 70/80’s funk rock influence.
nice subtle sub bass layers and effects.
No problem with the vocals AT ALL over here.... bumped it in the ride, on the laptop, and on headphones, clean af to me
Hiphop filter? What do you mean?
Missionary: Every Track On Snoop Dogg's New Album Ranked
2024's calendar year for music can't come to an end without a new project from Snoop Dogg. In a year when he starred in a new movie called The Underdoggs, dropped a Still G.I.N. alcohol brand, and joined The Voice, Snoop has crowned everything by contributing to the medium that made him a superstar: rap music.
Snoop Dogg teams up with frequent collaborator, producer Dr. Dre, to release his landmark 20th album: Missionary. Just over 30 years after his electric Doggystyle debut, the Doggfather celebrates with his most ambitious project yet. His tracklist features notable guest spots from the likes of Eminem, Sting, 50 Cent, and Tom Petty, among others. These are unique songs filled with unique names all produced by Dre, but which songs rank among the best? Here's how every track on Snoop Dogg's Missionary ranks.
16 "Another Part of Me"
Feat. Sting
Like how an earlier track offers a modern update of a Tom Petty classic, this is a modern update of "Message in a Bottle" from Sting's band, The Police, which, quite frankly, is a better record. This is the only song on the album that feels like a straight disappointment, which is unfortunate to say. It's hard not to see Sting's name on the record and not get excited. It's Sting, for starters, and unless he's being sampled, his rap collaborations are few and far between. It's hard not to get excited to know he's shared the stage with two rap icons, but this track does not live up to expectations.
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Maybe it's a lack of chemistry, or maybe it's a matter of expectations being too high, but this doesn't connect with its potential. Snoop tries to match the Police-esque production, but comes off as low energy compared to his usual bombastic tone. Snoop almost feels like he's trying to croon more than anything, while Sting, in the end, feels like he's trying to rap. Frankly, Sting trying to rap was never going to connect.
15 "Gangsta Pose"
Feat. Dem Jointz, Stalone, and Fat Money
This is a track that is held back by the use of autotone, which honestly feels a little grating to the ears. It's sad, actually, because Snoop Dogg's verses are solid and while there isn't a whole lot to write home about with this one, it would at least be an inoffensive record without some of the production choices with the voices.
Production-wise, the beat is a head-knocker on its own merits. If it was just the beat itself, this would be a much better song. Some of Dre's more questionable creative choices on the production make this nearly skippable. As the second to last track on the album, it's not enough to hurt the album or make someone want to stop listening to the whole thing, but the album definitely would have been enhanced if this was left on the cutting room floor.
14 "The Negotiator"
The Final Track
Speaking of inoffensive songs, the finale to Missionary is just okay. It's not bad and it's not a song that anyone will be going back to a lot, but it's alright. Wish there could be more to say about it, but besides once again chronicling how far he's come in his career, Snoop mostly just uses this track to serve as a means to sign off on the album.
"The Negotiator," while again, not a terrible record, it deprives the album of ending on the bang that it deserves to, given the greatness that came in tracks before it. To say that it ends in a whimper seems harsh, but it does end in an anti-climactic fashion when Missionary is deserving of more of a big finish.
13 "Foreplay"
Feat. BJ the Chicago Kid
The first track on the album is short, but perfectly sets the tone for the project, which feels equal parts modern and throwback. In terms of modern, BJ the Chicago Kid showcases the best of what the R&B genre has to offer, opening the portal to listeners, introducing them to how "Snoop Dogg makes the world go 'round." In terms of throwback, Dre's production feels like a bombastic invitation into the album that wouldn't feel out of place in one of his '90s productions. Plus, any old school Dre fan is never going to get tired of hearing the classic, "You are now about to witness the strength of street knowledge."
Again, it's very short, not even 90 seconds, but it leaves an impression, rolling out a red carpet for Snoop Dogg's latest audible experience. "Foreplay" smoothly transitions into the next track, "Shangri-La," masterfully.
12 "Shangri-La"
Snoop Dogg's First Verse
Picking up where "Fore Play" leaves off, "Shangri-La" showcases Snoop Dogg's first verse on the album. The verse is almost disarmingly good. When audiences are so used to seeing Snoop Dogg as a public figure, flexing his comedic chops or acting chops as an entertainer, it's easy to forget that he came into this game as a rapper. More importantly, it's easy to forget that a skill like that never truly goes away, so when Snoop Dogg shows he's still got it on the mic, it's almost surprising. Not just that he's still capable of producing a good verse, but just how good he is as a lyricist and how smooth his flow is.
Snoop Dog stars in Corona commercials for the "La Vida Mas Fina" ad campaign, and he brings his chill personality and celebrity friends to the brand.
Like "Fore Play," it's incredibly short, at just over 90 seconds, but like "Fore Play," this serves as more of an introduction or even a teaser for what's to come later in the album.
11 "Pressure"
Feat. K.A.A.N.
"Pressure" has the tough task of following up "Thank You," one of the best songs on the album (more on that later), and that makes it harder for the song to leave an impression. However, that's nothing against the song itself. It's certainly still a shoulder bopper, thanks to another snappy production beat from Dr. Dre. Meanwhile, Snoop remains lyrically consistent, and it's hard not to tip the hat to clever wordplay like "She said she wanna eat a hot dog, imma relish it."
K.A.A.N. on the chorus is somewhat distracting - not in a bad way, as they make for a solid hook, performance-wise. But for anyone who has never heard his voice before, it's easy to mistake it for Pharrell Williams. Again, not a bad performance, it's just that the voice can throw a listener off for a second.
10 "Gorgeous"
Feat. Jhene Aiko
While so much of the album is evocative of a '90s G-Funk era throwback, this production feels like one literally pulled straight out of the '90s, as if Dr. Dre used one of his beats left on the cutting room floor from an old 1990s production. Such a song certainly has its novelty. It's a head-bopper and a finger-snapper for sure. Snoop has a solid verse as well.
A sound like this always has its novelty, but the song is truly bolstered by Jhene Aiko. Aiko is always a treat on any record, but she embodies the spirit of the 90s, evoking the likes of Mary J. Blige and other R&B staples of that era.
9 "Hard Knocks"
Two Songs in One
"Hard Knocks" is an interesting song, because it feels like two songs in one. The first half echoes Jay-Z's "Hard Knock Life (Ghetto Anthem)," which is likely intentional considering the name of the song. Both this and the Jay-Z record are highlighted best by a children's chorus. Then, the beat slows down a bit and the second-half is dominated entirely by Snoop Dogg's voice.
Lyrically, both parts see Snoop reflecting a bit on his journey so far, recalling how he "made it out the mud" (going back to the chorus) and even evoking the spirit of "Murder Was the Case." It's a masterful song that, if anything, leaves the listener wanting more of each side of track. Rather than about 90 seconds of each part of the song, both parts are great enough to leave the listener wishing both halves had their own, longer separate songs to shine on.
8 "Sticcy Situation"
Feat. K.A.A.N. and Coco Sarai
This track features a similar beat switch-up, but while "Hard Knocks" feels like two songs melded into one, with "Sticcy Situation", it feels like a song that truly feels like the beat-switch is essential to the record. One half of the song doesn't work without the other, and more importantly, both sides of the record complement each other.
Coco Sarai shines again, just as she did in "Fire," if not more so here, as in addition to doing the halfway hook, she has a verse which she sings through to end the song on. K.A.A.N. makes for a good acquisition as well, although, oddly enough, whereas the previous record made him sound like Pharrell, this one has him sound like the late Nate Dogg, which almost feels more purposeful on producer Dre's part.
7 "Skyscrapers"
Feat. Method Man and Smitty
While the previous track with Sting was disappointing, this one brings the album back to its proper energy. There's no chorus in sight, just three master wordsmiths taking turns delivering a verse. One can argue that each member of this trio is trying to outshine each other. Obviously not in a malicious sense, as anyone who understands rap and what it means to be an MC understands that friendly competition drives the best rap performances. This is no different.
This features three men trying to showcase the best of their abilities. If anything, listeners may come out of this wishing Smitty's verse was longer. It's clearly the shortest, but had it lasted a bit longer, he could have been viewed as having been just as on par with Method Man and Snoop. It's easy to overlook Smitty for being the shortest, but the ghost writer proves a solid addition.
6 "Outta Da Blue"
Feat. Alus
While the aforementioned "Fore Play" had an old-school tinge to it, "Outta Da Blue" offers an outright throwback beat that wouldn't feel out of place on, say, Snoop Dogg's 2005 album Tha Blue Carpet Treatment. It's a true posse cut that makes one feel like they just walked into a house party with the speaker booming and the bass bumping. Adding to the throwback vibes, Alus' hook covers lyrics from M.I.A's "Paper Planes," another 2000s-era classic.
As much as Dre's production can be praised here, this song also offers Dr. Dre's first rap verse on the album. In his tone, it sounds like Dre has recaptured that same fire and hunger that he had as a member of the N.W.A. as if he had something to prove. Even better is when he and Snoop are literally going back and forth, bar for bar, which is always fun to hear on collab songs.
5 "Now Or Never"
Feat. BJ the Chicago Kid
BJ the Chicago Kid returns for the intro, this time for the tail-end of the project. This is a song about reaching unforgettable legacies after achieving unimaginable success. It's a song that, honestly, would have made for a great song to end on. Given the recurring themes of the album - 30-year-long journeys, and imagery about going from nothing to something - this feels like an epilogue to the project that at the very least ties together perfectly to the intro.
BJ's hook is tremendous, while Snoop delivers one of the best verses he's delivered in quite some time. The same compliment especially applies to Dr. Dre, as his return to the microphone is well-warranted. These are elements that all come together in unison to make for one of the best songs on the album.
4 "Gunz N Smoke"
Feat. 50 Cent and Eminem
Much like "Skyscrapers," this is a straight rap song between three veterans of the sport. This time, it feels like all three of these icons have ample time to shine and, as a result, stand shoulder to shoulder in terms of talent. Everyone has about a minute or so of airtime and each makes every second count with memorable lines galore. Dre's seamless production allows each verse to bleed into the other in a way where it's hardly noticeable. It's easy to just enjoy the song without noticing a new MC has been tagged in.
Missionary itself is a tribute and celebration of Snoop Dogg's release of Doggystyle three decades ago.
The best part is that the voice of Notorious B.I.G. is sampled on this record, adding a fourth icon to the mix. Missionary itself is a tribute and celebration of Snoop Dogg's release of Doggystyle three decades ago, but having four hip-hop legends of this stature on the same record makes it feel like a tribute to hip-hop more than anything else.
3 "Fire"
Feat. Coco Sarai
Snoop Dogg reminds listeners of his long-gone, oft-forgotten Snoop Lion persona with this one. In the early 2010s, Snoop took a break from rap to embark on the reggaeton genre, releasing a joint documentary and reggae album to mark his name change. "Fire" perfectly embodies the chill, melodic spirit of the reggae genre and Rastafarian sensibilities.
The key addition to this track is Coco Sarai playing songstress to the chorus. She proves to be the essential ingredient to making this track worthy of being hailed in the same regard as a quintessential Bob Marley track. One of the better songs on the album, "Fire" plays the listener in a specific place and time evocative of the era that inspired it. Plus, if anyone is looking to sit back, relax, and perhaps even indulge in something medicinal, this puts a listener in the perfect headspace for that.
2 "Thank You"
A Clear Standout
"Thank You" is a song that Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg previewed when they were interviewed on the Drink Champs podcast and it's easy to see why they were so proud to show off this record. It's insanely catchy. It's easy to see this one getting a lot of replay value at party functions, clubs, and just for the average listener. It's evident that Snoop and Dr. Dre were having fun while putting this one together. Once that infectious energy spills out of the song and into one's ear, it makes for an instant favorite.
There are a lot of posse cuts on this album that feel like throwbacks to previous eras, but this is one that feels like it would fit right in during any decade. Insert this in the 90s, 2000s, or maybe even the 80s, and it still works for the times. It's easy to call a record an instant classic, but for a record to feel instantly timeless is a harder achievement that is worth praising.
1 "Last Dance with Mary Jane"
Feat. Tom Petty and Jelly Roll
On the best song on Missionary, Dr. Dre's production offers a modern update to 1993's "Mary Jane's Last Dance." That song always left it up to listener interpretation whether the "she" of the record was about a woman of Petty's affections, or about marijuana. Despite Snoop Dogg's well-documented affinity for weed, "Last Dance with Mary Jane" maintains that illusion, which is impressive considering.
Sure, Dogg's verse (which is smooth) is a little more pointed in the direction of weed (maybe by association, not his fault), Jelly Roll's verse blurs the lines further. Mentions of burning a bridge could easily refer to cutting off a lover as much as it could mean burning backwood.
This is practically Snoop Dogg getting into a country genre bag that he rarely taps in, but surprisingly excels in. It's hard to tell if the chorus is a direct sample of the 1993 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers song or if Petty re-recorded, but his addition adds a lot to the song.
Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre Redefine G-Funk on ‘Missionary’
Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre's 'Missionary' caps off a strong year for OG figures in hip-hop. So where does it rank amongst those efforts? We answer that and more.
Snoop Dogg has one of the most diverse rap catalogs of all time.
In 1993, at the age of 22, he dropped his G-funk masterpiece Doggystyle, breaking sales records in the process. Since then: Snoop has released albums that experimented with the contemporary sounds of the times (whether it’s No Limit’s bounce on Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told or the sparse, futuristic production of The Neptunes on R&G (Rhythm & Gangsta)); dropped pure nostalgic West Coast-based gangsta rap albums (think No Limit Top Dogg or Neva Left); and during a particularly prolific time in the mid 2010s dropped a pop album where he’s mostly singing (Bush), a reggae LP (Reincarnated) and a gospel record (Bible of Love) in the span of five years.
It’s many swings, and part of the reason why Snoop is probably still the most recognizable rapper in pop culture. We now have album number 20, Missionary, which dropped today.
This album is monumental because it marks the return of one of the greatest rap duos of all time: Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre. Though they’ve collaborated on dozens of songs over the years, this is the first time we’ve gotten a Snoop album produced entirely by Dre since Doggystyle.
It’s been 31 years, and Missionary is a very different album from Doggystyle. The G-funk influences are more restrained—this isn’t really gangsta hip-hop, but more mogul rap. The album features Snoop, who is now 53, and Dre, 59, enjoying their legendary status while reflecting on their influence over the game. The production—handled entirely by Dre and trusted collaborators like Dem Jointz, The ICU, Mell Beats, and more—is expansive and luxurious, with what are probably very expensive samples from artists like Tom Petty, Sting, and others. Meanwhile, Snoop’s performance remains classic—effortless, nonchalant, and cool. It’s a style that pairs perfectly with Dre’s evolving production palette.
Missionary caps off a strong year for OG figures in hip-hop, with several legends dropping impactful comeback albums, often collaborating with other legends of the genre. So where does it rank amongst those efforts? We answer that and more.
Here are six takeaways from Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre’s new album, Missionary.
Damn, Snoop sounds cool
It doesn’t matter what Snoop Dogg is rapping about; he could be spitting about Long Beach City, his beloved relationship with weed, or why he’s the best in the game. Wherever his mind takes him, he always sounds like the absolute coolest dude in the room. Despite being 53 years old and giving his name, image, and likeness to any company willing to give him some money, the Doggfather remains unimpeachably dope. On Missionary, he sounds as fresh as he has in years, even when he’s rehashing topics we’ve heard a million times before.
Regardless of the beat Snoop’s rapping over, his charisma is unwavering and effortless. For most of the album, he sounds fantastic—precise in his rhymes and quick to switch flows at the drop of a dime bag. The standout performance is the gritty “Pressure,” where Snoop delivers some of the hardest verses on the album:
“Got this city on my back, n*gga, Eastside savagesPistol grip pump on my lap, automatic shitIndo smoke, fuckin' with a n*gga cataractsRoll down the windows, sound of the battle axe.”
Because Dre’s beats are so energetic and fluid throughout, it helps that we get such a sturdy, consistent performance from Snoop. —Will Schube
Dre is cooking up some decidedly different beats
There’s a reason why Dr. Dre is widely associated with one particular style of rap production. The icon has been the face of G-funk since he helped perfect the sound in the early ‘90s. Since then, it’s become not only a calling card but a pillar of the region’s sound. Snoop is also tightly affiliated with the sound, so it would make sense for Missionary to follow in the style of Doggystyle. But that’s not what they do here.
Retreading old ideas or going for the nostalgic play would be a predictable move for lesser artists, but Missionary is exciting precisely because Dre and Snoop are eager to forge new territory. Dre, in particular, is a restless innovator regarding production, pulling on a wide spectrum of popular music over the years, from ‘80s hip-hop (sampling Schooly D on “Outta Da Blue”) to psychedelic rock (using Pink Floyd on “Hard Knocks”) to '70s new wave (Snoop and Sting singing a version of “Message in a Bottle” on “Another Part of Me.”) No two ideas sound the same, and The Chronic architect takes a stab at a number of different styles—or should we say positions?—on Missionary. —Will Schube
“Last Dance with Mary Jane,” Snoop’s ultimate ode to weed
“Last Dance with Mary Jane” sure seems to suggest that Snoop Dogg is hanging it up when it comes to his favorite pastime. And while the track, which samples Tom Petty’s “Mary Jane’s Last Dance” and features Jelly Roll, is a powerful meditation on substance abuse, it becomes increasingly clear that it’s less about giving up substances than our relationships with them.
Snoop takes listeners on a history tour of his relationship with weed, tracing his story back to the time he was five years old. He raps: “Don't bother asking me to ever give my lady up/ Was about five years old taking my first puff/ It was love at first light, fell in love the first night/ My uncle told me don't rush, this could be your first crush.”
Snoop takes the metaphor a little further than feels comfortable, adding: “I used to flip bags with her, skip class with her/ She comfortable as fuck when I'm trying to smash with her.”
Jelly Roll, who comes through to add some melodic spice alongside the Petty sample, takes a different approach, discussing the negative impact of drugs in his life. He serves as a nice counterpoint to Snoop, crooning: “I've seen some things in my life/ It feels like raging inside/ This time I'm changing my mind/ I'm saying goodbye to the dangerous side.”—Will Schube
The features say something about Dre and Snoop’s indifference to contemporary rap
When Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre teased the tracklist for Missionary, a few things stood out. The 50 Cent and Eminem track made sense, as did features from an artist like Jhené Aiko on a song called “Gorgeous.” But the inclusion of Sting on “Another Part of Me” and Jelly Roll alongside the late, great Tom Petty on “Last Dance With Mary Jane” was more puzzling. Even more surprising, though, is how these moments were integrated into the album. “Last Dance With Mary Jane” reimagines the iconic Tom Petty lyric as a new sample, providing a map of sorts for Snoop and Jelly Roll to follow. “Another Part of Me” not only features Sting but also pays homage to his work with The Police.
What really stands out, however, is the lack of rap features on the album. In fact, the rap guests we do get are from legacy artists who are as solidified in the game as Snoop himself. Method Man delivers a verse of the year contender on the soulful “Skyscrapers,” while fellow Aftermath brethren 50 Cent and Eminem show up in full force for their OG. —Will Schube
We get a real Snoop, Dre, Em, and 50 song for the first time
Dr. Dre’s three biggest protégés finally connect. One of the album's highlights is “Gun N Smoke,” a throwback posse cut featuring 50 Cent, Snoop Dogg, and Eminem, all delivering near-peak performances. The track samples The Notorious B.I.G.’s "Dead Wrong" and is all raps, no hook—something that would feel right at home on Dre’s classic 2001 album.
As usual, Eminem steals the show with a verse about the pitfalls of fame. His rapping here is technically and narratively excellent. He raps:
“But I'll be damned if the same reporter's gonna shove another tape recorder / And camera in my face while I’m just tryin' to grab my baby daughter a burger, like Shady oughta be amicable.”
This might be their first collaboration, but let’s hope it’s not the last. —Dimas Sanfiorenzo
Was 2024 the year of the OG rapper renaissance?
At this point in the history of rap, it’s easy to get skeptical about artists outside of their peak continuing to put out new music. Time and again we’ve seen middle-aged MCs try to chase trends, switch up their sounds, and look for one more radio hit. It rarely works. This year, though, we’ve seen a number of releases from longtime vets of the industry put out stunningly good albums. Each has done it by working with a longtime collaborator, suggesting that chemistry is extremely important in these endeavors. Common and Pete Rock linked up for The Auditorium Vol. 1, which is pretty clearly the best thing Common has released in some time. LL Cool J reinvigorated his career by putting out an excellent album entirely produced by Q-Tip, entitled THE FORCE, and now Dre and Snoop have turned this trend into a triumvirate. Who’s to say whether this is a playbook for others to follow in the future, or if this simply occurred because all artists involved are six of the best to ever do it in rap. Regardless, in 2024, the old heads got something to say.
REVIEW | Snoop Dogg x Dr. Dre – Missionary
ByBrutus Maximus
For those who have grown up woth hip hop, and for those who have immersed themselves in the ‘golden era’ of when hip hop really started to take the music charts by the throat, the pairing of Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg is essentially as good as it gets. And, while ‘Missionary‘, the latest project from this iconic pairing, doesn’t reach those groundbreaking, game changing heights (think ‘Chronic’, ‘Doggystyle’ and ‘2001’) of years gone by, they do shake the game up with a fantastic project that has moments of pure nostalgia, while continuing to remain relevant – something that is far more difficult to do in the modern music landscape.
From the JUMP, the signature sound underpins the project and while it manoeuvres through different pockets of the hip hop / commercial / maintstream realm, there is a constant totem – the iconic sound of Dr Dre and his impeccable production, the silky smooth, well crafted, conversational tone of everyones favourite uncle – Snoop Dogg, and most important, how this duo are the eptiome of the ‘steel sharpens steel’ mantra. For decades, Dr Dre has been one of the most recognisable names and sounds in hip hop. You won’t find a ‘Best Producers’ conversation take place in any barbershop or on any street corner that won’t hear the words Dr Dre uttered with pride and confidence. His ability to curate dope ass music, to really make soundtracks that stick to your ribs, is top tier. His ability to bring the best out of Snoop Dogg is second to none.
Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre aren’t just hip hop artists – they almost transcend the culture with the brand they have built over the last 30+ years. So, it’s no surprise that when their paired up to bring this long awaited collaborative project to hip hop heads worldwide, that it wasn’t going to be the same gritty, g-funk laced, hardcore gangsta rap that had been such a staple of their previous projects. Instead, ‘Missionary‘ continues the trajectory of Snoop Dogg, bridging that gap between streets, vehicles and clubs – like very few have been able to successfully do. Few (if any) artists have such a diverse catalogue, but then again, few are Snoop Dogg, the most iconic emcee / rapper / artist in pop culture history!
In short, Dre’s production is inspired, and Snoop sounds reinvigorated and like he’s enjoying working with Dre again.
Overall, this album has something for everyone, but due to the length of time hip hop heads have been waiting for this project, we’re fully prepared for the ‘didn’t live up to the hype’ narrative. And, truth be told, both viewpoints would be correct. For those hoping to be transported back to their youth, sipping on gin and juice while smoking dime bags and crip walking on street corners – you may need to dust off Doggystyle for that. If you want to hear a vibrant, fun, inspired version of the ‘new’ and updated G funk sound, with a little more maturity in message and slightly less misogyny, and some dope pairings that only Snoop and Dre could pull of with authenticity – hit play on ‘Missionary‘ immediately.
Now, for something a little different, let’s highlight some of the most kick-ass moments of this listening experience!
‘Thank You’
This is one HELL of a track! It’s catchy, could earn a playlist spot in the crib, the car or any party and really showcases the chemistry between the two and has its own energy that blasts through the speakers! This is in HEAVY rotation.
‘Skyscrapers’
Method Man is not only one of the best feature emcees of all time, but he is another iconic name and voice in hip hop, and he brings the fire on this joint! No chorus, just straight bars as the trio of Snoop, Meth and Smitty all vie for best verse.
‘Last Dance with Mary Jane’
Story-telling Snoop is back at his best, talking about the love of his life – which can be interpreted however you like! Jelly Roll also pens a quality narrative, blurring the lines between weed and women, while Tom Petty and his instrumental addition, make this a banger!
‘Sticcy Situation’
G funk at its finest, this track slaps and the beat switch up is NUTS! Coco Sarai is a perfect addition to this joint too, from the hook to her bars, and K.A.A.N is no slouch either. It’s so well delivered that if just feels like the one song, and not two ‘halves’ slapped together. Flames.
‘Gunz N Smoke’
The most weirdly polarising track on the project for me. On one hand, it’s exactly what I expected – three emcees who have a great chemistry, steeping up to the plate and each delivering a hot verse. It is also probably the ‘safest’ and grimiest joint on the album. On that note, it’s a big win, but in the holistic project, where the envelope has been pushed will a range of crazy and well crafted collaborations – it may struggle under the weight of its own expectation.
‘Hard Knocks’
Doesn’t deliver the same beat switch / cohesion that ‘Sticcy Situation’ does, and therefore can seem like two tracks, BUT in saying that, I’d love a full version of ‘each’ part of this track! The first part of the joint is somewhat of an anthem, the second really hones in on Snoop’s journey.
All in all, Snoop and Dr Dre are BACK! While the other producers Snoop has worked with over his career have more catered to Snoop’s style and vibe, Dre has continued to push him to level up and really grow as an artist. Snoop sounds refreshed, and he has a bounce in his step, and Dre delivers a soundscape that both supports this and allows Snoop (and the featured artists!) to really standout.
It is funny watching people agonizing theirself to like the album. Listen it for a month people, then maybe you will like it, dont rush.Or maybe you just have a bad taste. But don't worry. it's ok ;)
the rapping on the album > the production on the album
on one level the rapping is the production, it's all one thing as far as performances go. so if Snoop sounds great vocally and he does Dre gets a lot of the credit.Rightfully so. Dre holds him to a standard.
on one level the rapping is the production, it's all one thing as far as performances go. so if Snoop sounds great vocally and he does Dre gets a lot of the credit.
in settings of the apple music app you can select audio quality and equalizers
How should I alter my audio settings in Apple Music? Never played around with that before.
How should I alter my audio settings in Apple Music? Never played around with that before.
Nothing that really knocks .. Sounds like a Just Blaze album .this an insult to just blaze, he would never drop something this mediocre. he had some of the most insane shit on detox. the dre x snoop x game x just blaze song from 2009 still sounds incredible even after 15 years.
on one level the rapping is the production, it's all one thing as far as performances go. so if Snoop sounds great vocally and he does Dre gets a lot of the credit.
that's fair
but overall Dre's production is not on par with the last hip hop album he produced which was Compton
No disrespect but why not leave it as it is, maybe the sound was intended to be this way? I'm getting a Dr.Dre produced album, I'm not gonna try to change his product to please my ears. But that's just me...
I noticed a difference between the YouTube sound of the film and the Apple Music sound of the album. YouTube was way thicker. The apple version is too bright. Could be an Apple fuck up, not Dres influence.
On the other hand i wonder if focus… is the real mixer. Not a fan of his.
No disrespect but why not leave it as it is, maybe the sound was intended to be this way? I'm getting a Dr.Dre produced album, I'm not gonna try to change his product to please my ears. But that's just me...
is the goal of music not to please your ears lol, no offense but that is a weird ass comment homie, i'm close to my 50s the world has become way too soft. Does the mix sound good or not ? It is not well mixed it is a fact, if some ppl want to change the eq settings to make it better for them then be it. Personally i wont go to that far as i have a really nice set up at home involving several thousands worth of speakers and cans and it doesnt sound good enough to get replay value. Compton was already the year where Dre tracks werent mix as before but this one has to be the worse by far. Where are the Segal and other dope engineers he used to work with ?
The spotify version is still very thin and brittle.
If you go to a Thai restaurant, will you bring your own BBQ sauce just so it fits your taste buds?
i dont do Asian restaurants my household is Asian and that is a very bad analogy ....
(define what is bbq sauce for you cause i dont think we do bbq sauce the same way lol , no offense we are discussing here but there are facts in cooking as in the pro audio world my friend)
i'm back from a big studio and i bumped the album there to make a few friends listen and get their opinions, the 3 engineers were let's say surprised of the mix of the album to stay politically correct...
The streaming version or the cd/lp?
It is a very good question actually !!!
I was playing spotify first as it was connected, but one dude said ha na maybe it is the encoding , so we checked on tidal losless /flac version ( cd quality 44.1 khz, 16 bits) and it was a little bit less compressed but frequency wise still not pleasing like chronic 2001 and still lacking bass and brittle to the ears
I've noticed the difference between Spotify and Apple, the spotify version is more full (for lack of a better word)On tidal with max quality sounds good to my ears. Maybe it is an apple thing.
I think the streaming services generally put a certain master filter on it. Most of the time it improves the sound but with Dre maybe his sound is too advanced for that.
For example Compton i have the cd and lp and those sound better on the same speakers than the Apple Music version.
I think the streaming services generally put a certain master filter on it. Most of the time it improves the sound but with Dre maybe his sound is too advanced for that.
For example Compton i have the cd and lp and those sound better on the same speakers than the Apple Music version.
It's 2024, but I still have to say the last Dr. Dre Beat I celebrated was a long time ago. For example, Popped Off (T.I. Feat. Dr. Dre) somehow something has been lost over the years, of course the productions are evolving and he no longer wants to make the beats or kind of beats, but he was actually known for that with little elements to produce good music. tracks like Bishop Lamont - Grow Up / U Ain't Goin Nowhere (Young Buck Feat. Latoiya Williams) / Stat Quo - The Way It Be (Feat. Scarface) 2014, by the way, is produced by Steve Esterferm & Dr Dre / Catalina (Raekwon Feat. Lyfe Jennings) / Bitch Im Back (Slim Thug Feat. Devin The Dude) produced by Sir Jinx / One Blood (Original Version) (The Game) or Hallelujah (Feat. Then it started with tracks like Stronger (Marsha Ambrosius Feat. Dr. Dre) I didn't understand the sample, even if it was copied
At the end of the day I prefer to listen to simple piano-driven songs like Boss' Life (Feat. Nate Dogg) or Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo)
Interesting take. Can't say that I disagree with you for the most part. You could argue that even though Dre didn't produce on GNX his influence (sounds, mix, ideas) is all over it. And, the overall production on Missionary is great. It is the best that Snoop Dogg has sounded in a long time. For Dre, the bar was set so high from his earlier work that it is nearly impossible for him to reach it or surpass it again. I think one of the keys to his earlier success was that he was always working with new talent. Wonder what it would look like if he produced a couple of songs for other artists outside of his circle. Would love to hear a Jelly Roll solo record with Dre, same with BJ the Chicago Kid, and some of the newer rappers.Speaking of Boss Life, is the Name Dogg version anywhere on streaming? Of not, where did you find it because I believe it was bleak and never retail right?
Speaking of Boss Life, is the Name Dogg version anywhere on streaming? Of not, where did you find it because I believe it was bleak and never retail right?
Watching the mini movie, is it just me or does it seem at the end they are subtly announcing a 50 Cent project?
no you are mixing apple and oranges Homie. (no pun intended haha)
Apple and Spotify use mp3 of 320 kb/s (apple has a lostless option but most ppl use default settings and do not turn that on)
it is basically just mp3 and of course there is a difference between mp3 and WAV files ( cd) , to give you an idea a mp3 is roughly around 7 mb large and a wave is around 33-40 mb, a mp3 is basically a comrpessed wav...
BUT you can still observe a general tonality when listening to a mp3 and pin point how a an album was mixed, a mp3 doesnt remove or add frequencies who weren't there at the first place, so as it might sound slighty better overall it will keep the same tonality if it was mixed too bright it will still retain that bright tone with lack of warmth...
On spotify you can also turn off the auto gain option to get a bit of a better experience volumewise but you can still observe the tones an engineer wanted to give to an album mixing wise
On Tidal lostless it is basically a CD quality no filter (as you said but the word is not filter more encoding)
I think a lot of ppl do not understand the technicality of those things nor understand frequencies but yet assert or believe they got it... it is justyears of training but also knowing the science beind it...
i d like to add that it doesnt remove anything if ppl likes it , music has to be felt if ppl like it fair enough. but some of us prefer roundness to harshness... The sound of Dre is not too advanced for encoding lol... it was a mixing decision from their team to have it like this. Now an exercise play the Bruno Mars album 24 K or the track UP in The Club done by Quik for Second to None, and compare it to the new Snoop you will see how they sound far better compared to any missionary songs engineering wise.
Interesting review/reaction from some people who are not Snoop fans and they went in thinking they were not going to like it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIPujQ45gDA
Just u.Yeah, maybe so...
Qobuz 24-Bit/44.1kHz FLAC is the best quality out for streaming service.
https://www.qobuz.com/ca-en/album/missionary-dr-dre-snoop-dogg/vklj0qg2pxisb
Interesting review/reaction from some people who are not Snoop fans and they went in thinking they were not going to like it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIPujQ45gDA
on one level the rapping is the production, it's all one thing as far as performances go. so if Snoop sounds great vocally and he does Dre gets a lot of the credit.
Can't believe I'm saying this but I wish we had some Nate Dogg AI vocals (or unreleased) on here. Normally wouldn't condone something like that but you just know Nate would have loved to be a part of this man.
that's fair
but overall Dre's production is not on par with the last hip hop album he produced which was Compton
Lol. How? Hard knocks is better than whole compton album. Last dance, skyscrapers, gun n smoke, part of me, thank you, fire, pressure, even georgous. Al 10s. On compton you have love for money, and all on me standouts, rest cant comapre to this.
This album is Amazing body of work. Next level production.
Absolutely correct! CD Quality is still the closest you can get to the studio version producer's want you to hear it. Not a big fan of the streaming era although they are making steps forward with lossless etc. Vinyl is another story; totally different, analog technology and warmer sound in general.
PS: I can also confirm that the Missionary CD (without "Thank You" of course) sounds slightly better than the YT premium high quality version.
What I loved about this album is the nostalgic feeling of getting a fully produced Dre Rap album (Last was Compton) on the day it dropped on a physical medium 8) So nonetheless big props to them for releasing still music in their age, that's the most impressive part to me.
To me this project sounds very like a continuation of "The Contract EP"
definitely tons of unreleased vocals still dyin to be used
last couple of snoop albums had some unreleased nate vocals that tbh put most missionary to shame
Speaking of Boss Life, is the Name Dogg version anywhere on streaming? Of not, where did you find it because I believe it was bleak and never retail right?
SMH....Just bought the CD from HMV - didn't think one of the best songs 'Thank You' would not be on this??
any idea why?
Outside the Box on BODR sounded hella generic at least the beat made it sound that way. Bit of stretch if you’re referring to that track putting most on Missionary to shame.
cd quality is far from studio quality brother
cd quality is capped at 44.1 khz/16-bit
vinyl quality >>>>
I love vinyl but still prefer CDs.
A 16-bit WAV file on a CD sounds closer to the studio version than vinyl due to the following reasons:
1. Dynamic Range: CDs have a wider dynamic range (96 dB), capturing both quiet and loud sounds more accurately, compared to vinyl’s 60–70 dB.
2. Frequency Response: CDs consistently reproduce the full range of human hearing (20 Hz to 22 kHz), while vinyl can lose details in bass and treble due to physical limitations. Not everyone has a perfect vinyl setup.
3. Noise-Free Playback: CDs are free of surface noise and distortion, unlike vinyl, which can have crackles, pops, and wear over time.
4. Precision: Digital recordings (even when mastered in 24-bit and reduced to 16-bit for CD) ensure consistent and precise sound reproduction.
In essence, CDs provide a cleaner and more faithful reproduction of the studio recording than vinyl.
Leftovers
1. Where I'm From (feat. Stalone & Anderson .Paak)
Produced By The Alchemist
anyone has this? where is this info from?
I love vinyl but still prefer CDs.
A 16-bit WAV file on a CD sounds closer to the studio version than vinyl due to the following reasons:
1. Dynamic Range: CDs have a wider dynamic range (96 dB), capturing both quiet and loud sounds more accurately, compared to vinyl’s 60–70 dB.
2. Frequency Response: CDs consistently reproduce the full range of human hearing (20 Hz to 22 kHz), while vinyl can lose details in bass and treble due to physical limitations. Not everyone has a perfect vinyl setup.
3. Noise-Free Playback: CDs are free of surface noise and distortion, unlike vinyl, which can have crackles, pops, and wear over time.
4. Precision: Digital recordings (even when mastered in 24-bit and reduced to 16-bit for CD) ensure consistent and precise sound reproduction.
In essence, CDs provide a cleaner and more faithful reproduction of the studio recording than vinyl.
Comes from a picture of Missionary tracks on a laptop screen that was posted a while back.
24-bit FLAC is my weapon of choice these days, noticable step up from CDs. sampling rate doesn't make such a big difference but the 24-bit factor makes everything sound more realistic.
big issue with vinyl is the lack of bass detail & clarity IMO.
no anderson paak on this album was a huge mistake
considering that the choruses are lacking according to most reviews, anderson paak would have really fixed that issue
BJ The Chicago Kid has replaced him I dont know why.
Bi did a great job!
BJ did a great job!
he’s not bad… but paak and even october london >>>
no anderson paak on this album was a huge mistakeIt what make sense being Anderson is also on Aftermath too but who knows. I guess Dre and them had they own vision of the direction of the album.
considering that the choruses are lacking according to most reviews, anderson paak would have really fixed that issue
vinyl sounds more alive
think of live instrumentation…. the bass is never overpowering when u got a live band playing.. that’s what vinyl is good at replicating
I love vinyl but still prefer CDs.
A 16-bit WAV file on a CD sounds closer to the studio version than vinyl due to the following reasons:
1. Dynamic Range: CDs have a wider dynamic range (96 dB), capturing both quiet and loud sounds more accurately, compared to vinyl’s 60–70 dB.
2. Frequency Response: CDs consistently reproduce the full range of human hearing (20 Hz to 22 kHz), while vinyl can lose details in bass and treble due to physical limitations. Not everyone has a perfect vinyl setup.
3. Noise-Free Playback: CDs are free of surface noise and distortion, unlike vinyl, which can have crackles, pops, and wear over time.
4. Precision: Digital recordings (even when mastered in 24-bit and reduced to 16-bit for CD) ensure consistent and precise sound reproduction.
In essence, CDs provide a cleaner and more faithful reproduction of the studio recording than vinyl.
Does anyone else hear Doggy Dogg World in the baseline on “Gangsta Pose” after the beat switch on the second half of the song? The baseline sounds very similar to Doggy Dogg World to my ears.
Also, the notion that vinyl or tape inherently replicates a studio experience better than CD is subjective and not supported by technical fact. Preferences differ from listener to listener. The statement is more personal taste than objective truth. It’s just not broadly accurate. Statements like these are largely subjective opinions rather than objective facts. While some people prefer the “warm” character they perceive in vinyl or tape, this doesn’t mean those formats inherently replicate the studio experience better than CDs, nor that all audiophiles agree with such a hierarchy.
Studio Experience vs. Playback Medium:
Modern recording studios often use high-resolution digital formats as their “master” reference. A well-mastered CD created directly from these digital masters can very closely represent what the engineers and musicians heard during mixing. Vinyl, on the other hand, requires a specialized mastering process that adapts the music to the medium’s physical constraints. This does not automatically bring you closer to the studio sound—it just presents a different, often more colored interpretation.
Warmth and Coloration:
The “warm” sound attributed to vinyl commonly comes from subtle distortions, harmonic enhancements, and the playback chain (turntable, cartridge, phono preamp). While these colorations can be pleasing, they are not necessarily more accurate. They’re a signature of the format and the playback gear, not a direct reflection of the original studio tracks.
Tape vs. CD:
Analog tape can impart its own sonic signature—mild compression, saturation, and a softer top end—which some listeners find appealing. However, tapes are also prone to noise, wear, and degradation over time. CDs, being a digital medium, do not degrade with playback, providing a cleaner and more consistent sound. Whether this is “better” or “thinner” is subjective, not a matter of fact.
Audiophile opinions vary. The claim that vinyl > tape > CD is not accurate. Audiophiles have widely differing opinions (any audiophile will tell you this), and many appreciate high-quality digital formats for their clarity and stability (I am in this camp). Others prefer vinyl’s tactile experience and distinctive character (I can certainly appreciate this but am not interested in having two separate hardware setups to oblige vinyl). The only thing any audiophile will tell you with confidence is that there is no universal consensus.
Instrumental version is now on Spotify
Outta Da Blue is horrible. i basically deleted Outta Da Blue, Gorgeous (most painful treble) & Gangsta Pose then you got a 13 track album i can happily listen to front to back 8)
Outta Da Blue is horrible. i basically deleted Outta Da Blue, Gorgeous (most painful treble) & Gangsta Pose then you got a 13 track album i can happily listen to front to back 8)
Snoop Dogg keeps ‘em coming. A week after releasing “Outta da Blue” and a month after dropping “Gorgeous,” the Doggfather is back again with “Another Part of Me,” a Sting-featuring duet that arrives as the latest single from his upcoming album, Missionary.
Produced by Dr. Dre and The ICU, “Another Part of Me” kicks off with a mock-live feel, with a crowd cheering as a grooving reimagination of “Message in a Bottle” plays, anchored by the song’s iconic guitar riff. Snoop then enters with auto-tuned vocals, singing a melody inspired by The Police’s original, before settling into his signature rap flow.
The Voice: Snoop Dogg & Sting's "Another Part of Me" Lyrics, Explained
Even at the top of their game, Snoop and Sting prove there’s still unfinished business.
Who performs “Another Part of Me?”
Snoop Dogg and Sting both perform (and sing!) on “Another Part of Me,” with an additional credit going to Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg’s longtime partner in hip-hop rhyme.
And nope, this song isn't a Michael Jackson cover. Though there’s no obvious content connection between the two songs, music fans might also recognize “Another Part of Me” as the title to the leadoff side-two track from Michael Jackson’s 1987 album Bad.
Freshly released as one of the featured singles from Snoop’s upcoming new album Missionary (out December 13), “Another Part of Me” is like a one-stop song spot to find two coaching standouts from Season 26 of The Voice all in one place. Sting teamed with Snoop Dogg as his team’s Mega Mentor, while Snoop himself, of course, is one of two rookie Coaches (along with Michael Bublé) taking their first-ever turn in the contest’s big red Chair.
The lyrics to “Another Part of Me” by Snoop Dogg and Sting explained
Split between two tightly-produced verses delivered first by Snoop Dogg and then by Sting, “Another Part of Me” is all about keeping the hustle alive even when you’re at the top of your game.
“This for my people, I'm just handlin' procedure,” flows Snoop as he drops clever references to a pair of 1980s Tom Cruise movies (Top Gun and Risky Business), all while shouting out his old-school West Coast proving grounds: “Here in the land of the lost and the scandalous / Bright lights, sunny days, cold nights / Ride the wavе, hold tight, just a day in Los Angeles.”
Sting picks up the thread in verse two, stoking the flames of motivation to stay on top of your work ethic no matter how high you’ve already risen. “Yeah, there's no better time than today / In a moment jump up on it, see the ocean, stay in motion / You're not broken, no, I'm chosen, I just gotta have faith / Time is present, I stay active, momma's laughin' when we's rappin’” — and that last line might very well be a knowing wink from Sting at his own unexpected flirtation, this far into his iconic career, with the hip-hop genre.
Dr. Dre’s lyrical contribution bookends the track, serving up intro and outro words (like “return of the titans”) that celebrate the all-star crossover collaboration. Altogether, “Another Part of Me” serves up a fun and fresh collision between three masters of musical styles —all while showing that each of them still has plenty of creative fuel left in the tank.
I've downloaded the new version including instrumentals, bumped them in my (Beats :D ) headphones and I was completely blown away by how incredible they sound. I don't really get how people are complaining that much about the beats, frankly speaking.I agree. The production is awesome and what I was hoping for. Like others have said, sounds like luxurious rap music and Snoop gives some of the best vocal performances of his career consistently throughout this album.
Outta Da Blue split opinions but right now for me, it’s one of my favourite from the album.
It takes while for everything going on to settle but it’s pretty good and fits with the album, Dre & Snoop back & Forth are pretty good on it too.
The release of the Instrumentals this early is good movie, on Hard Knocks instrumental now 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 dirrrrttyy.
After hearing the instrumentals. I wish Tha Eastsidaz and the whole dpgc and affiliates was featured on these beats would have been a whole different vibe. Instead of the stupid lady choruses and snoop whispering raps.
I know the market for cds is tiny compared to what it once was, but does anyone think there will be a re-release of the cd with the track “Thank You,” included? After hearing song, it just seems a shame that it’s not on there.
So what would be the solution if you were in their shoes? The album was already pressed some time ago and shipped out. Thank You was a last minute addition to the album thanks to fan feedback.
Options:
1. Offer a CD quality download of Thank You on Snoop's site (or similar, e.g. Interscope's site) for people who upload proof of purchase of the retail CD.
2. Run a recall program where fans can get a replacement CD with the missing tracc included.
I'm a home theater buff in addition to hip hop and therefore collect a lot of blu-rays/4k UHD discs. If a screw-up like this occurred, they would do something like this. The Criterion Collection did this with their release of Citizen Kane, etc. It happens pretty frequently, actually.
Outta Da Blue split opinions but right now for me, it’s one of my favourite from the album.
It takes while for everything going on to settle but it’s pretty good and fits with the album, Dre & Snoop back & Forth are pretty good on it too.
The release of the Instrumentals this early is good movie, on Hard Knocks instrumental now 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 dirrrrttyy.
Snoop and Dre making Missionary inside lookDamn there's so much unused track titles written on those boards....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrAPnVy8cX4?si=0KhXcJDZfdevm8nS
Damn there's so much unused track titles written on those boards....
hope there will be a deluxe edition.Yup, or AT LEAST Now or Never
wouldnt it be dope if they make a music video for an extended thank you remix ft. dr. dre?
Yup, or AT LEAST Now or Never
Byw one of these boards has Detox on it lol
its always there.Lol yeah right
just to throw a spanner in the works because people were talking about it sounded different on some streaming services vs others.
there is something going on with different mastering or something because i just peeped the CD version which sounds dramatically different (better) to the HD digital versions I listened to previously. much less hot, less treble boosted. the singles that dropped before the album all sound the same as the cd version too. something is clearly up with the final master from when they added Thank You, something got fucked up along the way.
That’s crazy. Someone from the ICU needs to clear this up
haha, they aren't going to do a massive recall on all the CDs. Be realistic.
A free download, maybe....but that's not going to please anyone. We all know where we can get a free download if we so desire.
its always there.
just to throw a spanner in the works because people were talking about how it sounded different on some streaming services vs others.
there is something going on with different mastering or something because i just peeped the CD version which sounds dramatically different (better) to the HD digital versions I listened to previously. much less hot, less treble boosted. the singles that dropped before the album all sound the same as the cd version too. something is clearly up with the final master from when they added Thank You, something got fucked up along the way.
This is why I'm waiting for my CD copy from Amazon before I listen to the album. Legit have only heard Gorgeous, Outta Da Blue, and Thank You so far. I'm avoiding spoilers.
you can compare the two versions and it's night and day. the one with less treble has more thump too, sounds much 'fuller' in the middle. the 'bad' version of Gorgeous actually overloaded my amp from excessive high frequencies.
and the people complaining about a lack of bass were right all along.
you can compare the two versions and it's night and day. the one with less treble has more thump too, sounds much 'fuller' in the middle. the 'bad' version of Gorgeous actually overloaded my amp from excessive high frequencies.
and the people complaining about a lack of bass were right all along.
cd version is fine and probably so is the 15 track version up on apple music.
but the 16 track version boy oh boy something went wrong there it's so hot it's borderline distorting.
This makes me feel better waiting for the CD version. They rushed Thank You on there at the last minute without quality control and fucced up the master. Just another embarrassing pick your poison scenario for the fans. You can choose the CD master which sounds fine but lacks Thank You, or the 16-tracc version with a fucced up master. :grumpy:
cd version is fine and probably so is the 15 track version up on apple music.
but the 16 track version boy oh boy something went wrong there it's so hot it's borderline distorting.
Snoop_Dogg-Missionary-CD-FLAC-2024-AUDiOFiLE >> this is the real deal..(https://i.ibb.co/Vj9bQyR/GNX.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Gotta peep it and see how it sounds.
maybe someone can explain to me why there is no official clip yetbecause there is no single on this cd. no bangers. Except outta da blue (by choosing a DEFAULT song!)
I've actually grown to like Outta Da Blue when listening to the whole album. It seems to work when listening to the whole project.
The problem is with many of the tracks that it's not instantly catchy/easy to like for the casual listener, unlike Doggystyle where it was so easy for everyone (hip-hop and non hop-hop fans alike) to like instantly.
For me, it's like Missionary is Snoop's equivalent to Makaveli - quite difficult to casually listen to the album, not really for the clubs or car (exception for a couple of tracks). It's was more for listening to the earphones on the way to work, and listening to the album in one whole go, where as All Eyez on Me had music for different situations (clubs, car, etc) and you can quite easily listen to a couple of tracks on it's own.
What??? Put Makaveli and Missionary in the same discussion.. damn I must be too old! Missionary is not easy to listen to for Snoop and Dre fans, I agree because it's so disappointing! Songs like Another part of Me, Last Dance, Gunz N Smoke, Gorgeous are made for the general public! Jelly Roll, Tom Petty, Sting... isn’t that easy to access? 🤣 this cd is Snoop's "makaveli"... damn man you are really talking nonsense.Ironically GNX sounds more like Makaveli than Missionary. Like wtf is that comparison lol?
you can't listen to Hail Mary alone? To Live & Die In L.A? Toss it up? Me & My Girlfriend?
That Bootleg Kev interview is for yall!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfnxtT1bNAY?si=bhIC4WdicKXpc231
Feel sorry for those who can't just enjoy this album.I wasn't expecting a new Doggystyle or Chronic, and those who were expecting this type of album were already in error. I was expecting good hip hop and more mature music, with 2 or 3 BANGERS and music that makes my head move. There is none of that. Aside from Outta da blue, Gorgeous and the 2nd part of Sticcy Situation (which is 7 minutes of good music). it's a shame! I don't understand how anyone can be satisfied with this album. coming from Snoop and Dre. but as usual when it's DRE... 95% of people will suck his dick. As much as Marsha's album sounded very good, this one sounds like shit. Bacc on Death Row was much better and enjoyable and above all with much more replay value.
It's a solid project if you didn't have unrealistic expectations of it being Chronic/2001/Doggystyle level.
because there is no single on this cd. no bangers. Except outta da blue (by choosing a DEFAULT song!)There’s no beat on here that will become a classic and played again and again like Still Dre or Next Episode and used constantly for YouTube vids, TikTok and memes. It’s ok for what it is a mid album that I won’t be coming back too regularly after this month. As people have said if Dre’s name and involvement wasn’t mentioned most people would be looking at Snoop like wtf is this? No one expected it to be like doggystyle and 2001 but at least have a timeless replay value like the old joints. Not just a throwaway TikTok short attention short songs afterthought. I guess it’s just an addition to promote the alcohol or whatever they’re selling over there in the US.
What??? Put Makaveli and Missionary in the same discussion.. damn I must be too old! Missionary is not easy to listen to for Snoop and Dre fans, I agree because it's so disappointing! Songs like Another part of Me, Last Dance, Gunz N Smoke, Gorgeous are made for the general public! Jelly Roll, Tom Petty, Sting... isn’t that easy to access? 🤣 this cd is Snoop's "makaveli"... damn man you are really talking nonsense.
you can't listen to Hail Mary alone? To Live & Die In L.A? Toss it up? Me & My Girlfriend?
I can't believe Sticcy Sitiuation almost didn't make the album. Thanks to Snoop for convincing Dr. Dre revive it from the "Shit Outta Luck" pile and "fix it."
I wasn't expecting a new Doggystyle or Chronic, and those who were expecting this type of album were already in error. I was expecting good hip hop and more mature music, with 2 or 3 BANGERS and music that makes my head move. There is none of that. Aside from Outta da blue, Gorgeous and the 2nd part of Sticcy Situation (which is 7 minutes of good music). it's a shame! I don't understand how anyone can be satisfied with this album. coming from Snoop and Dre. but as usual when it's DRE... 95% of people will suck his dick. As much as Marsha's album sounded very good, this one sounds like shit. Bacc on Death Row was much better and enjoyable and above all with much more replay value.
That Bootleg Kev interview is for yall!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfnxtT1bNAY?si=bhIC4WdicKXpc231
come on bro, its not that bad. thank you, last dance with mary jane, fire, hard knocks are real bangers. you cant say that you didnt like "thank you".
Last Dance with mary jane is a fucking good song. Jelly Roll made it bigger.
Rest of the album can go to trash.
If anybody tries to justify this wack album, fuck him. This is just a waste of time.
Im so fucking dissapointed. This is even worse than "compton".
They shouldnt do matrix 4, missionary neither.
This will be my last comment about album. I promise. I give up expecting anything dope from dre anymore.
Instrumentals sounds even better. It is amazing how good this album sounds.Bumpin it right now with Beats by Dre studio headphones and you can hear every little tweek and sound effect... makes you appreciate Dre as a producer even more!
Bumpin it right now with Beats by Dre studio headphones and you can hear every little tweek and sound effect... makes you appreciate Dre as a producer even more!
come on bro, its not that bad. thank you, last dance with mary jane, fire, hard knocks are real bangers. you cant say that you didnt like "thank you".No bro sorry. thank you for me reminds me of one shoot one kill which is one of the songs that disappointed me the most on Compton. and Last Dance, sorry but it's not for me. I tried with this project, I took my time, I listened to it several times, I tried to force myself to like it (Snoop and Dre fan that I am) but no, after a while you have to open your eyes. It’s so disappointing. yes it's good music, it's clean, but damn Dre + Snoop... it needed an album with some bangers like the 2nd part of Sticcy Situations....
i don’t understand .. this was your initial reaction
VV
what changed since then? you sounded genuinely appalled at how disappointing the album was to you .. so the album went from complete trash to having a handful of bangers??
Bumpin it right now with Beats by Dre studio headphones and you can hear every little tweek and sound effect... makes you appreciate Dre as a producer even more!It's funny, when Chronic, Doggystyle, All Eyez On Me, Regulate, The Last Meal, 2001 and the list goes on. we weren't there to say, if you listen to it on headphones you'll hear every little thing... fuck it... that's what people do now when it's Dre. listen on headphones and you will see how clearly you can hear the little boom. we don't give a damn. I listen to GNX on the speaker of my phone and my head bounces, the same in the car, on headphones or on the television. This excuse of having to listen to it on headphones dates back to the 2010s to sell Beats By Dre
i overreacted a bit in the begining. this was not i expected like you said so, but i have to accept this is what they are fucking with now and when i try to get in to the mood to force myself to enjoy it, it worked after a few spins. i only skip outta da blue and gorgeous. the rest goes very well from start to end for me. yeah i wish there would be a few more dre type of beats like thank you but it is what it is. also snoop sounds sooo fucking cool on the mic. his performance should be appriciated. i'm getting positive opinions day by day. if they could make a few more touches to a few songs it would be waaaaay more better.The only 2 tracks i like ;D
Somehow you know the discussions, when 2001 came out, the old generation was disappointed why Dre no longer makes the Death Row sound everyone had expected a Chronic 2, today snoops album is played on fortnite, imagine they would play N.W.A Fuck the Police on it ha ha ha, from 2000 Dre and Snoop have already become mainstream, that's why I didn't expect anything else from the album, if you are open then it's a good album but for another company
i am trying to understand what kind of music dre trying to form.
i feel some 70s 80s vibe on instrumentation but what i notice clearly is drum patterns.
instead of two or three songs most of the songs have unusual drum patterns except of classic 4/4 hip hop drum loops.
what else did you guys notice? do you think album has a style on its own?
i noticed there is no style :-\I feel the Sting song/beat sounds like stadium music and I think that's intentional for sure. They could fill a stadium with that one.
it’s just a bunch of compositions thrown together to sound big with no rhyme or reason .. like the structure of the sting track. the mindset he used when producing that song trickles down to the identity of the entire album. and you’re trying way too hard to force yourself to like this lol
you might not like compton personally, but at least it had an identity
all this promo and catering to the masses and the album is projected to do less than 40kSnoop's biggest sales debut since 2011
https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=344051&title=TOP-20%253A-STRAY-KIDS-HOP-TO-THE-TOP
I am the 1st not to care about sales but it is ironic
btw looking at that chart current music that is quality is at an all time low
I feel the Sting song/beat sounds like stadium music and I think that's intentional for sure. They could fill a stadium with that one.
all this promo and catering to the masses and the album is projected to do less than 40k
https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=344051&title=TOP-20%253A-STRAY-KIDS-HOP-TO-THE-TOP
I am the 1st not to care about sales but it is ironic
btw looking at that chart current music that is quality is at an all time low
It is definitely better in instrumental form. The album sounds to poppy for my taste being more of an East Coast head.
all this promo and catering to the masses and the album is projected to do less than 40kNobody, and I do mean NOBODY, in their right mind was expecting this record to sell. I doubt even Snoop was expecting anything else. I, for example, expected even less, so this isn't even a bad result. It's more than any Snoop album since 2011. Also more than Blue Lips and Ab soul albums that came out this year.
https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=344051&title=TOP-20%253A-STRAY-KIDS-HOP-TO-THE-TOP
I am the 1st not to care about sales but it is ironic
btw looking at that chart current music that is quality is at an all time low
Snoop said it was in another folder. I guess it was for somebody else, dre or paak or whatever... snoop convinced dre to give it to him.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDtATgvvnpy/?igsh=eW9tbXFzYTNpbmN6
come on bro, its not that bad. thank you, last dance with mary jane, fire, hard knocks are real bangers. you cant say that you didnt like "thank you".Thank you is alright but it’s no super smash to me just the best record on the album. you got the end of in da club vibe going on and also game and 50s west side type beat but for me it’s a bit too uptempo. It’s a good song but i don’t see myself coming back to it again after a few replays. Same with the other two you mentioned alright but nothing really special. The sting song as someone said on here is so cringe inducing especially with all the thanking fans Dre is doing. I said before if it was like Rza’s Banks and Steelz album it might have been ok - they need to take a lesson from them if that’s the new direction.
It's funny, when Chronic, Doggystyle, All Eyez On Me, Regulate, The Last Meal, 2001 and the list goes on. we weren't there to say, if you listen to it on headphones you'll hear every little thing... fuck it... that's what people do now when it's Dre. listen on headphones and you will see how clearly you can hear the little boom. we don't give a damn. I listen to GNX on the speaker of my phone and my head bounces, the same in the car, on headphones or on the television. This excuse of having to listen to it on headphones dates back to the 2010s to sell Beats By Dre
cd version is fine and probably so is the 15 track version up on apple music.
but the 16 track version boy oh boy something went wrong there it's so hot it's borderline distorting.
If you ever work with music like I do then you would understand the concept of absorbing & appreciating the art of production, especially on good headphones.Yes I can understand your point of view. but personally what I wanted to say is that. whether on my phone, in my car or on headphones, the productions suck. and it's not with fucking good headphones that I would appreciate this album better.
I don’t expect most fans to understand this as you hear this with a broad sense, while some like me will analyze and appreciate the little things
Bought the cd today. And it is way better than the Apple streams. Thanks for the info. Basses bump. Outta da blue is way better mixed.Thats why i love Gorgeous. It sounds funky.
Enjoying his 70’s blaxploitation/suspense movie soundtrack style mixed with some funk rock and reggae elements. Stylish and obscure. Every sound is dope, guitars, Horns, effects and most of all hi-hats and percussion.
Only big misfit is thank you (which im happy is not on my cd); it doesnt match the style and it does have an ugly arpeggio(in no way comparable to Westside story or in da club) and the last minute of gangsta pose (satisfiction pt2).
I am not a regular mainstream Dr Dre fan;both chronics and their hits are kind of played out to me more than 10 years ago. I am not fiending for Dre and Snoop to have mainstream succes again. I listen to the firm, big bang, lastmeal, aftermath compilation, unreleased stuff etc. And missionary is a Nice addition to that catalog.
I do hope for the return of p funk influenced basslines one day; the better cd mix of Gorgeous reminds a bit of p funk though.
Yes I can understand your point of view. but personally what I wanted to say is that. whether on my phone, in my car or on headphones, the productions suck. and it's not with fucking good headphones that I would appreciate this album better.everyone got their opinions bro! I mean not many ppl listen to instrumental albums tho! I definitely did & appreciate Dre & the album more
I find it really odd how mixed the opinions are on this album. Not just on this forum, but online reviews and review/ reactions from YouTube. It’s a weird mix of people calling it total trash and others praising the album, some even calling it AOTY.
For me, it’s a good album. Not as good as Doggystyle, NL Top Dogg, or Last Meal. But probably as good as BCT in my opinion.
Thats why i love Gorgeous. It sounds funky.
Can someone explain like I'm 5 what's going on with the different releases and which I should check out and which I should avoid? I'm hearing there's a 15 track version and a 16 track version and the mixing and/or mastering is fucked up on one but not the other. Should I get the CD, vinyl, FLAC? What's the deal? And now apparently there's an instrumental release? Is there a difference in that one as well?
Can someone explain like I'm 5 what's going on with the different releases and which I should check out and which I should avoid? I'm hearing there's a 15 track version and a 16 track version and the mixing and/or mastering is fucked up on one but not the other. Should I get the CD, vinyl, FLAC? What's the deal? And now apparently there's an instrumental release? Is there a difference in that one as well?
Get in your car, drive to Walmart or Target. Buy the 15 track CD. Bring it home, then go online and download the track 'Thank You' from one of the usual sources. Done.
And make sure you brush your teeth before going to bed.
A full instrumental of Missionary would be lovely
Snoop said Sticcy Situation wasn't gonna be on the album til he pushed Dre to mix it up real nice, and see how it turns out.One of the best songs on the album!
Crazy to me, would love like 10 more like that one
So Instrumental version has different mastering?
How is the quality on the non Apple streaming or the hi-res digital download sites? All Ive heard is Apple. Hoping a deluxe cd will come out at some point to buy with thank you and hopefully another bonus.
i am trying to understand what kind of music dre trying to form.
i feel some 70s 80s vibe on instrumentation but what i notice clearly is drum patterns.
instead of two or three songs most of the songs have unusual drum patterns except of classic 4/4 hip hop drum loops.
what else did you guys notice? do you think album has a style on its own?
I find it really odd how mixed the opinions are on this album. Not just on this forum, but online reviews and review/ reactions from YouTube. It’s a weird mix of people calling it total trash and others praising the album, some even calling it AOTY.
For me, it’s a good album. Not as good as Doggystyle, NL Top Dogg, or Last Meal. But probably as good as BCT in my opinion.
First week billboard top 20 only and 36k units sold.
dissapointing first week.
weak singles, no music video and thats the result i guess.
fire music video dropping tomorrow.
https://www.instagram.com/snoopdogg/p/DDv-arvRUto/
They just fucked the promo wih that one. Cheap ass video
Yes. Somthing is odd. Looking like snoop pays for promo, no real push from the interscope.I mean, Interscope ain't dumb, they know Snoop won't sell much in 2024
It doesn't make any financial sense for them to do more videos. It's not going to equate to extra sales or profit just because there's a video for one of the tracks. Not in 2024. If anyone's to blame it's the streaming platforms and those who use them.
Also Dre's MOJO is "Less is more" while Snoop will be all over your face
labcabin records woulda turned gorgeous into a Still Dre level joint
it had mad potential tbh .. as stated earlier, the issue was the chorus, the lack of bassline, the verses sounding cut n paste, and the overdone brightness which doesn’t help to hide those from
but don’t trip, we’re taking over from where dre left off
Setting expectations fairly high for your upcoming work. You planning on really trying to recreate that classic DR/Aftermath sound?
What are the chances of a DELUXE version: album (+thank you) disc 1, instrumental album disc 2?
For the people that didn't buy a physical copy, would you now?
For the people that did buy, would you buy this version too?
It’s official. Dre is going to fall into a deep depression and not release anything for a long time
I was just thinking, now that he finally released Marsha, and Snoop. Did a bit with Xzibit, Em dropped not too long ago. What's next on Dre's horizon? What's the next big project he's going to be working on? Perhaps a new 50 Cent album?
Album sales are so irrelevant in the streaming era. Different times. Barely matters.
wrong … streaming numbers are included in album sales nowadays.I don't believe one album stream equals one sale though. It's a misconstrued way of detailing how many people actually streamed/DL'd the project.
the big artists are still doing big numbers
I don't believe one album stream equals one sale though. It's a misconstrued way of detailing how many people actually streamed/DL'd the project.
Guys, he's fucking 60. What hibernation are yall talking about? If he goes into hibernation now it basically means retirement
60 doesn’t mean dead .. he could easily keep working if the albums reception breathed life into himTo go out with a bang he needs to drop this ICU team completely, and it doesn't look like there's a chance of this happenning. The best deal we can hope for is if he'll drop his solo project next year with similar sound to Missionary/GTA tracks.
he won’t retire because he will make it a mission to go out wit a bang .. once he has time to sit back n reflect
To go out with a bang he needs to drop this ICU team completely, and it doesn't look like there's a chance of this happenning. The best deal we can hope for is if he'll drop his solo project next year with similar sound to Missionary/GTA tracks.
You really don't get it about the sales tho. It's been said like 5 times before already, but 36k is a good result for a Snoop Dogg album in 2024. Dre ain't dumb and he knows this, he knew (and not just him - everybody knew) there wasn't any chance of it doing big numbers. 36k is the biggest first week for Snoop in 13 years, his previous albums did like 5-10k. That's basically Oxnard numbers and if Oxnard flopping didn't stop Dre, this one won't either.
Sure, but it's still a Snoop project, and it still did 3-5 times more than his other albums. Interscope was also behind Q's latest album, it didn't help it either.
It’s not fair to compare this to those snoop albums. This project. Had Interscope behind it so more comparable numbers are Eminem’s recent albums whatever the numbers were for those
It’s not fair to compare this to those snoop albums. This project. Had Interscope behind it so more comparable numbers are Eminem’s recent albums whatever the numbers were for those
Sure, but it's still a Snoop project, and it still did 3-5 times more than his other albums. Interscope was also behind Q's latest album, it didn't help it either.
Sccit I respect you, but you clearly don't get it, it doesn't work like that. It simply doesn't. Acting like it was unexpected or that Dre and Snoop are both so out of touch they expected this album to sell 100k+ is even just laughable.
none of those independent self-funded snoop projects matter
this is snoop n dre doing their first album together in 30+ years
arguably the greatest duo in rap history
to sit here and come up for reasons why debuting at number 20 isn’t awful is hilarious bruh
Sccit I respect you, but you clearly don't get it, doesn't work like that. It simply doesn't. Acting like it was unexpected or that Dre and Snoop are both so out of touch they expected this album to sell 100k+ is even just laughable.
Dr.Dre alone wouldn't do big numbers either, unless Eminem is involved. Also interscope is probably focused on Kendrick.Compton did 300k 10 years ago though. I think 100k now is achievable for him with the right features and maybe couple of big shows.
Also, releasing a cheap ass video for fire instead of pushing the JellyRoll track as a single is nuts to me
It's simply delusional to think that Interscope is run by out of touch dumbasses who expected a success to come from a Snoop Dogg album in 2024 (https://i.ibb.co/RHqpVfL/15.png)
lmao
you’re totally lost if you think they went on that huge promotional journey expecting to debut at number 20 brother
It's simply delusional to think that Interscope is run by out of touch dumbasses who expected a success to come from a Snoop Dogg album in 2024 (https://i.ibb.co/RHqpVfL/15.png)
a snoop album produced by dre ….. yes ….. they expected it to shake up the rap world, 100%Sorry bruh, you are clearly delusional and out of touch (https://i.ibb.co/ngFqYb2/12.png) They absolutely did NOT expect it to shake the world lol, they understand that it's 20 years too late for that.
I imagine Dre goes into hibernation regardless and may not come back for a long time, if ever. I don't think there's anything he can really do at this point outside of discovering a new monster artist to sell a ton of records in 2024. Nature of the beast. Been a minute since he's worked on anything Kendrick related, too.yeah I think fully producing a Kendrick album or a 50/Em collab project is the only thing I can see bringing Dre back outside..unless he discovers a new artist like you said
I mean don't get me wrong, 36k IS BAD for a Aftermath project. But not for a Snoop Dogg project. People just don't care about him as a rapper at this point, he's been ruining his legacy by putting out extremely mediocre or straight up wack projects for 17 years now. He basically killed any interest people had in his music by doing so, and now when he finally dropped a project of a somewhat better quality people are still not that interested in it, because it doesn't work like that. You can't magically erase 17 years of you tarnishing your legacy by dropping a 7/10 album. And that's what Dre warned him about btw.these are all FACTS
I guarantee you, if Dre dropped an album now, it would've done like 100k first week.
yeah I think fully producing a Kendrick album or a 50/Em project is the only thing I can see bringing Dre back outside..unless he discovers a new artist like you saidI don't we will ever see Dre on Kendrick's album ever again. I mean, he didn't even work with him when he was on aftermath. It's even less realistic now. Maybe on Dre's hypothetical album tho.
I was just thinking, now that he finally released Marsha, and Snoop. Did a bit with Xzibit, Em dropped not too long ago. What's next on Dre's horizon? What's the next big project he's going to be working on? Perhaps a new 50 Cent album?
Sorry bruh, you are clearly delusional and out of touch (https://i.ibb.co/ngFqYb2/12.png) They absolutely did NOT expect it to shake the world lol, they understand that it's 20 years too late for that.
Snoop & Dre reunion just doesn't do it for today's music listeners. Interscope aren't dummies bruh
The album is just a promo for the liquor.
Just like detox news leaks were promo’s for the headphones, which made Dre a billionaire.
It is not about streams and album sales.
Dre fans who dont like this album need to step their game up.
Apart from a few wack tracks (outta da blue, thank you) shit is great.
Way better than Compton. Best Dre product in 20 years.
yeah I think fully producing a Kendrick album or a 50/Em collab project is the only thing I can see bringing Dre back outside..unless he discovers a new artist like you saidAgreed
Way better than Compton. Best Dre product in 20 years.good joke ;)
I was suspect about the "signature" when I saw it but I still bought it. Now I'm 99% sure it is fake. This guy has been doing it a long time and he's more of an expert than I am and I was suspect of it. Mine already shipped so I'll be sending it back. Interscope now this is DIRTY!!!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDxvfydOMNv/?igsh=MXhpeWYyaW1tdHhtNw%3D%3D
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDxt8UiOEaC/
Compton did 295k 1st week
Ok it was 9 years ago when sales were better but still
a Dre/Snoop reunion album should’ve done at least half that, no?
Compton did 295k 1st week
Ok it was 9 years ago when sales were better but still
a Dre/Snoop reunion album should’ve done at least half that, no?
No, not in the era we are in
the era is no different than when compton dropped
many artists are still pushing units
Dr.Dre's ain't doing these numbers today. First we are in the streaming era, second kids are the ones buying album. Third, the casual listener won't check for a Dr.Dre album in 2024, they might be curious about it but won't anticipate it. As we all know Missionary was linked to Gin & Juice , so there was a huge promo and campaign about it.
Been following this thread since the release and can’t understand how anybody could not be impressed by this album. This project took me back to the 90’s when artists made albums intended to be listened to from start to finish as opposed to the a la carte trend since streaming became the norm. I don’t think there is one skip song on the entire record. Like 2001, Missionary is just ahead of its time. Nothing out sounds like it. Can’t help but laugh when the same people clowning this album are awestruck by a “west coast” blah blah blah artist that releases a record that sounds like it was made in 2 days on my kids fisher price piano.
I was suspect about the "signature" when I saw it but I still bought it. Now I'm 99% sure it is fake. This guy has been doing it a long time and he's more of an expert than I am and I was suspect of it. Mine already shipped so I'll be sending it back. Interscope now this is DIRTY!!!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDxvfydOMNv/?igsh=MXhpeWYyaW1tdHhtNw%3D%3D
https://www.instagram.com/p/DDxt8UiOEaC/
Compton did 295k 1st weekAbsolutely not. There was a chance for a Dre solo project to achieve that, but not for a Snoop's album.
Ok it was 9 years ago when sales were better but still
a Dre/Snoop reunion album should’ve done at least half that, no?
At the very least
the era is no different than when compton dropped
many artists are still pushing units
y’all need to stop caping for this unfortunate turn of events(https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/12/fiddy.gif)
it’s an isult to the greatest hip hop production icon of all time to say “he should expect to debut behind rap albums that have been out for months!!”Trust me it's even more disrespectful to assume that Dre is so dumb he expected an album full of outdated music from an irrelevant rapper who dropped almost nothing but trash for the last 17 years to do huge numbers.
(https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/12/fiddy.gif)
Yeah this confirms it, you don't understand a thing about today's sells
"unfortunate turn of events" lol
Bro it's like you just woke up from some looong ass sleep and somehow missed all the discussions people had about this album and Snoop and Dre in general and now acting like that numbers weren't expected or is a shock to anybody.
And btw Dre was totally fine with dropping flops with Anderson Paak, despite Paak being much more relevant than Snoop. It didn't break his spirit or anything. And those albums had a MASSIVE promo and Dre was a huge part of it (he even appeared on the cover).
Wrong
go to sleep homie
anderson paaks 5th album in 5 years didn’t have the same hype around it as a snoop and dre reunion
you doin way too much my dude
Still: Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg
More than three decades after the game-changing Doggystyle, Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre reunite for Missionary—a project they believe fills a void in today's hip-hop.
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When Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg ask you to fly from Hong Kong to Los Angeles with less than 24 hours' notice to interview them—you say yes. Well, first, you hyperventilate in the streets of Hong Kong, have a mini existential crisis, and then drop everything and hop on the next 13-hour flight home to LA. It’s Dre and Snoop, after all—two living legends whose collaborative project, Missionary (officially Snoop’s 20th solo album), delivers the final, hard-hitting mic drop to cap off a year of undeniable victory for the West.
I pulled up to a hidden studio in Los Angeles, discreetly tucked between industrial warehouses and surrounded by massive trucks. Walking inside, I immediately felt a different vibe than when I first met them months prior in London. There stood the iconic duo: Dre and Snoop, moving like they’d never left the ’90s. Missionary blasted through the speakers as they two-stepped in sync—a glass of gin in Dre’s hand, a blunt in Snoop’s—and a classic drop-top Cadillac parked casually in the background. There was a palpable synergy between them—something you could feel in the air—a brotherhood solidified by decades of tribulations and triumphs. Watching them pose for photos later felt like stepping back to the era when every street corner in Compton and beyond echoed with their music.
Missionary is the sonic reunion we’ve all been waiting for, a powerful testament to the indelible chemistry Snoop and Dre have cultivated over decades. Their bond, first solidified 31 years ago on Doggystyle, has matured and evolved, and this new project is the proof. Sure, Missionary has echoes of Snoop’s legendary debut, but don’t get it twisted: They’re not trying to chase the ghosts of the past. This is a bold leap into the next chapter of their GOAT journey. Unconcerned by the inevitable comparisons to the past, the duo is focused on crafting something that’s of the moment but also timeless. "We think about perfection amongst ourselves,” said Snoop. “We’re competing against us."
After our conversation, their purpose came into sharp focus. This wasn’t the same duo we first met during Doggystyle—young and hungry, staking their claim in the game. Now, they’re seasoned architects of hip-hop. Entrepreneurs. Super Bowl halftime performers. Living legends. Snoop has transformed into America’s sweetheart, while Dr. Dre reigns as one of music’s most successful moguls. This time, their hunger felt different—deeper, untethered from accolades or commercial validation. They’re not chasing charts; they’re carving out something singular. As Snoop told me: "We always fill the void when we make music. We’re putting back the sound we created under his direction—and that’s exactly what we did." Missionary delivers on that promise with old-school West Coast flavor tinged with maturity and groove that only Dre and Snoop could deliver. And trust me, they popped out and showed n*ggas how it's done, just like we do on the West Coast.
JHW: The world has been begging for this reunion since Doggystyle 30 years ago. I know you've heard this question a lot, but I want to know: Why now?
Snoop Dogg: Why not? Not why.
Dr. Dre: That was going to be my answer. Not why, why not?
SD: We still in our prime. We still good at what we do and we just felt like we always fill the void when we make music. We trying to put back the sound that we created under his direction and that's what we're doing. We're putting it back in the scene again.
DD: And it's also all about timing. For some reason it just clicked for now. I'm doing some amazing music right now. And Snoop, he stays on his grind. Everybody knows what it is with his energy and his commitment and his work ethic and everything.
JHW: Snoop, you said you're filling a void. Can you talk about what that void is?
SD: That void is Dr. Dre's sound. When Dr. Dre makes music, his music don't sound like nobody else's music. And it's a uniqueness about his sound that me and him make together and I'm just honored to still be able to do it at a high level and for him to be able to produce me.
DD: And also this is a different way of working, to be honest with you. I think it took maybe 20 years for Snoop to allow me to work with him this way. And the way we produced the record and the way we did the writing and the music and the whole nine is a different way of us working. And I think the audience is going to really get another taste for the next saga of what we're doing. Especially making hip-hop records at this age, and it's the shit. So yeah, you're going to get another dose of us that I think is going to be really impressive.
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JHW: You said it's a different way of working. Can you paint the picture of what the process looked like and how it was different from making Doggystyle?
SD: I can paint it. Doggystyle was me being raw, him learning me and figuring me out and producing me.
DD: And I was still learning during that time as well.
SD: This is him on the top of his game producing for me. Not making a beat for me, but producing the whole song, every element of the song from how I say it to what I say to the way I say it, to the coming back in doing ad-libs, to making sure that it sounds right. Like your projection of your vocals, listening to every fucking word. ‘No, you got to come back and say this word like this because your energy wasn't right.’ And when we listened to it back, I fucking love it because it challenged me and it put me in a position of where I've never been. People work with me and be like, ‘Oh, that shit was dope.’ This nigga be like, ‘Nope, do it again. Do it again until it's perfection.’
DD: Yeah. And I feel like the first time we worked together on Doggystyle, I was still green. I was still learning the SSL mixing board and still learning how the musicality of everything was going. I was still learning. So I got it now. I always say, nobody's ever mad at humility. I'm better now. I'm so much better than I was when we did Doggystyle. People are going to understand that when they hear the music.
JHW: So the process of sending him beats, do you send it to him and then he approves it?
SD: No way. We in the same room. For everything. Sometimes the beat is made right there on the spot and then we create the song on the spot. We are not on that ‘give me a beat and I'm going to put a verse to it and send it back to you.’
DD: That ain't how we work. There’s a synergy. We are in the room together from ground up. That's how it works.
SD: From intro to endo.
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JHW: Speaking of intimacy, the album is called Missionary. The last one was Doggystyle. Is it called Missionary because it’s more intimate and vulnerable?
SD: He named both albums. He's the credit. Give this motherfucker with his nasty ass. I'm all grown and shit and you going to pull me right back.
JHW: Were there any other positions or names being considered for the title?
SD: I was going to call it “Cowgirl,” but he didn't really want that. No, I’m fucking with you. That's not true.
JHW: So missionary was always the top?
DD: Yeah. Why not? I think it's fucking fun and funny as shit. We're just having fun and being creative. That's what this whole shit is about. That's just being in the studio together.
JHW: So when we were talking earlier, you said no, this is Snoop's album, but you are a huge part of it. So when you produce an album, do you not consider yourself a part of that collaboration?
DD: I'm a part of it, absolutely.
JHW: So you don't want to take ownership of the album?
DD: No. I'm the producer and I like to play the background. I don't even know why I'm here doing this shit. This is his album.
SD: But the thing is, Dr. Dre, when we get together, because people like to hear us rap together. We got a couple of songs on there and we’re rapping together. That's the part that he don't be understanding is that people love me, but they love us when we are together.
DD: It’s different when we are together.
SD: It’s a stronger love. I can do a lot by myself, but when I'm with you it's like I can be Robin and let you be Batman. You know what I'm saying? I can kick back.
DD: Yeah. We know what it is. Everybody loves it when we're together. There's a certain synergy that comes together when we get on stage or when we get in the studio together. It's just some kind of magic that happens. I realized this when we were working on “Nuthin' but a ‘G’ Thang” and it was this one part that came in when I realized how much our vocals work together. And I'm like, oh shit, this is like a synergy or something that is really fucking special. So I just ran with it from there.
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JHW: Would you say it was difficult or challenging to create this album knowing how high the fan expectations are?
SD: No, we don't ever go into a record thinking about that. We think about perfection amongst ourselves. We are competing against us. This nigga don't even listen to anything that we did that’s old. So you don't never have to worry about that with him. I was playing our old record today, he said, ‘Man, turn that shit off and put on our new shit.’
DD: Yeah, that just happened today. I don't listen to any of the songs I've ever made since 1985, which is when I started. I don't even allow my family or anybody to play that shit around me. I think that just the process of recording is what I really enjoy. Just recording the albums, and I'm listening to it enough while we're recording, and when we finish recording, I wake up listening to that shit once it comes out. I'm ready to listen to the next shit.
JHW: Not even for nostalgia?
DD: Maybe later when I'm kicking it with my grandkids or something like that. Maybe I might go back and start listening to the trajectory from 1985 and how my skills developed along the way. That would be much more entertaining for me to listen to what I was doing from then until now. And really listening to how my skills developed along the way. I think that would be more entertaining for me.
SD: Do you think your music sounds better now?
DD: Yes.
SD: I don't.
DD: I think I'm making the best shit ever.
SD: I do too, but I think some of your old music is fucking amazing.
If he don't listen to his old music, that means he ain't listening to the music that’s out either. So his shit don’t sound like nobody’s. This nigga make records for what's in for him, no matter what's going on outside.
DD: Yeah. I don't want to be disrespectful to anybody right now, but I'm not really inspired by what's happening with hip-hop these days. It's not for me. I've always said I'm not going to disrespect it or anything like that, but I haven't heard anything that makes me go fuck, why didn't I do that? I haven't heard that in a long time, which makes my job easy to be honest.
"I don't want to be disrespectful to anybody right now, but I'm not really inspired by what's happening with hip-hop these days." –Dr. Dre
JHW: Do you remember the last person or last album that you heard that you were inspired by?
SD: Stevie Wonder’s [Songs in the] Key of Life? [Laughs.]
DD: Well, if you're talking about new shit, I would say good kid, m.A.A.d city and To Pimp a Butterfly by Kendrick Lamar were the last hip-hop albums that inspired me.
JHW: So if you guys could point to one moment from this album that makes you're super proud of it, what would that be?
SD: It's a song called “Sticky Situation.” I had to fight to get this song on the album.
DD: No you didn't.
SD: Yeah, I did. It was in the other files and then I brought it back and then this n*gga mixed the fuck out of it. But it sound like a classic Dr. Dre song.
DD: I fucks with it now. I would say mine is another song that I almost took off the album, but Snoop said he would shoot me if I did. It's called “Now or Never.” I think that's one of the two songs that I appear on vocally and I really fuck with that now. His delivery and the lyrics and the way he came off on that one, I would say that was one of the ones that's really impressive to me.
JHW: Why were you going to take it off?
DD: Because it's really slow and much more mellow than the rest of the songs on the album. And I wanted to make it so every song on this album could be performed live. And this isn't one of those songs, but it's good enough to be on the record.
SD: Well, that's the song that made me cry. No songs that I ever made made me cry. Real shit.
DD: I never heard you say that. This n*gga getting mushy.
SD: No, no, not like that. ’Cause we was at the little thing with Interscope when we was playing the record and they had asked me, ‘What song means the most to you?’ And I said that record. And I played it, and when I played it, the motherfucker made me cry. There's certain shit that's being said in that verse that's deep to me.
DD: Yeah, I agree with that. I fucks with it because the way the vocals move, it's a rollercoaster ride. And BJ The Chicago Kid came through on the hook and he made it sound amazing. That's the bridge between Snoop's verse and my verse and that made me say, okay, alright, that goes on the album. Along with the threat Snoop gave me.
JHW: Snoop, what do you think was important when you were making Doggystyle that's not important anymore?
SD: I didn't have no importance with Doggystyle, my importance was staying free. I was going through some legal things at the time. So my focus was just trying to be the dopest rapper that I can be. Me and Dr. Dre was having so much fun drinking gin in the studio, mixing and mingling. I was in the moment. It wasn't about importance, none of that shit. I was just a young rapper following his direction, just like I'm an old rapper following his direction.
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JHW: And there's also a song with Sting. I know he's become your mentor, Snoop. How did that relationship develop?
SD: Well, I've been a fan of Sting since I was a kid, so when we did the record, it was an interpolation of his song and we was thinking who could we get on it, and we said we might as well go after Sting. And when we sent it to him, that motherfucker sent the record back how fast?
DD: I don’t know. We were just trying to get the song cleared and he sent us a song back with his vocals on it.
SD: He sound harder than me on that. I'm like, damn Sting, you cold-blooded with this shit. To me, it shows the growth of who I am and where I'm at to have a duet with somebody like that.
DD: Yeah, Sting is one of our heroes and it was amazing for him to jump on the song. And he actually sang our lyrics that he wrote. So it is amazing that he was down to do that.
JHW: That's incredible. What has he taught you, being your mentor and collaborating on this with you?
SD: I had got a chance to spend time with him on The Voice and I learned how to be a better listener from him. Even at the stage of his career, he was still able to listen and receive information. So I like that about him, and I'm still able to do the same thing to take my star and say put that shit to the side and go back to being a student for a minute.
JHW: A question about “Pressure,” because it revisits your inspiration from Slick Rick. How has his writing still resonated with you nearly 40 years later?
SD: The way Dr. Dre used my voice as an instrument was key on some of these records and the style definitely was created by Slick Rick, and I'm good at emulating it and getting close to it and having my own version of it. I just feel like Dr. Dre knows how to use my voice like an instrument rather than just rap on this song. ‘No, give me some personality on this song.’ ‘Nah n*gga, your energy wasn't right.’ ‘Nah, you should say it like this.’
DD: And we're both fans of Slick Rick in a major way, and we know that’s one of Snoop's heroes.
SD: Dr. Dre laid the ref to that. You oughta hear his version of that.
DD: No, she can't hear that. I'm rapping trying to sound like Snoop on the ref. You'll never hear that.
JHW: Snoop, you and Meth were like all-stars in the ’90s. How did it feel to bring him on “Skyscraper”?
SD: Man, Dr. Dre love Meth like I love Meth. So it was an easy call. I've maintained a relationship with Method Man since ’93. So this is like my family member. So to be able to call somebody and say, Meth, we need to get you on this track because you my peer, I don't really want nobody young on this. I want my peer, somebody that I naturally love and respect that Dr. Dre respects as well. And he went in, he went bodyguard hard.
DD: We had him on the Zoom. I said, ‘Listen man, I saw you fucking bench pressing, you look strong.’ I said, ‘You look like you could bench press a Prius.’ And he just actually came through for us. We have a short movie for the release of Snoop's album called Missionary and Method Man came through just the other day and did all the voiceovers for us.
JHW: Oh, I'm excited to see that. Can you share more about the short?
DD: So the concept is me and Snoop, we're basically hit men and vigilantes and we solve problems for people that can't go to the cops. And we're telepathic and we can hear what everybody's thinking. And we're just using this music shit. For example, this interview, the Super Bowl, the Olympics, we're just using that as a cover to cover up what we really do for a living.
JHW: Is there some truth behind this?
SD: We do make hits. [Laughs.]. We are hit men.
JHW: On the song with Method Man, you rapped: “Raise a glass for the coast, we the last of the GOATs.” What do you mean by that?
DD: I got to hear the answer to this.
SD: You have to know what it is. It's only very few of us around, and we know who we are and we respect each other. Just the other day, we was on a interview with KRS-One and Kurtis Blow. Those are GOATs. They're the last of the GOATs, and we're the last of the GOATs. So everybody that's under that moniker know who they are. Those who haven't got to that status going to feel some kind of way,
DD: Hopefully, in my opinion, we're not the last of the goats, and there's another fucking Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg and Eminem and Ice Cube in their fucking bedroom or in their garage right now. It's like a 16-year-old kid that's going to come out and do some shit that's even bigger and more spectacular than what we've ever done. And I feel like that's the case right now. There's probably some kid right now banging on his drum machine, a keyboard, that's going to do some shit that is going to make us go like,
What the fuck is that?’
SD: Yeah, he or she is out there.
JHW: And there's no one that you feel is semi-close to that GOAT status?
DD: Right now? As far as production and writing goes, as far as hip-hop goes in the whole shit, to be perfectly honest with you: No. I don't mean that to be disrespectful in any way about anybody that's doing their thing. That's just my truth.
JHW: So Snoop said, “Fuck being lyrical, I’m a walking miracle.” What inspired that line?
SD: Because sometimes the lyrics get lost, especially in the industry right now. Lyrics aren't that upfront. It's more about jingles and whatnot. So we want to let it be known what it really is, and what it's really about. If you're really an MC, this is what matters. Your song structure, your bars, the way you deliver, your timing, your cadence, all of that shit matters. We from the old school. We from the birth of hip-hop. So just trying to reassure people that when you listening to this, understand what we coming from. We coming from the point of an MC and a DJ.
DD: What the fuck happened? Why do people still give a fuck about me and Snoop after 30 and 40 years? That's the answer to the question. He is a walking miracle. You know what I mean? It's just like why the fuck am I in the game for 40 years? It's like, on some real shit, I started in 1985, right? So it'll be 40 years in this shit. And let me pat myself on the back for a minute. I've been successful in the hip-hop business more than anybody ever in hip-hop history. Right? There's been people that have been in the business long before me, but successful up until now, and people still give a fuck. Right? How the fuck does that happen? Why the fuck do people still give a fuck about us? Yeah. He's a walking miracle.
JHW: True GOATs.
DD: That’s the truth.
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JHW: On “Gun Smoke” we got vintage 50 and Eminem. What was it like enlisting them for this performance?
SD: That’s Dr. Dre's all-star team. All three of us love Dr. Dre's production and we all felt like we needed a record where we all got something together. We loving each other, we appreciating each other, and it just made sense. Dr. Dre's at the top of his game right now and these are three of his all-stars, and it only made sense for me to come together on this record “Gun Smoke.”
DD: It's a brotherhood. We all show up for each other. None of us has ever said no to each other.
JHW: Do they make any critiques when they hear the sound or anything like that? Or are they fully in as soon as you call?
DD: The critiques come from Eminem. It’s like a friendly competition among us. And it’s healthy. You'll hear it. Like the way 50 showed up on the first verse. Then Snoop comes in and then Eminem shows up and you know what the fuck it is with him and that ink pen.
SD: He going 75 bars of madness. Fuck all of y’all. And after he listened to it back, he may be like, ‘Give it to me again. I need eight more bars.
DD: No, he fucked around and Eminem learned the technical parts of the studio. And now, he’s like can you turn my vocal up two db?
SD: We’re students. We love being in Dr. Dre’s school, we have a great time in class.
JHW: So Dre, you use dancehall in a very strategic and pointed way. You do it so well on “Fire.” What do you love about dancehall?
DD: First of all, the artist that I work with on the record is Jamaican. Her name is Cocoa Sarai. So she's doing the hook on the song. So that was motivating that whole kind of bounce on it, because she's in the studio while we're creating the beat. So I'm basically following her.
SD: Dre got a great team. Shout out to the ICU, the team behind the scenes. The writers, producers, the whole crew. They so energetic. They so dope. They go on boats, they go to different places.
DD: We go out in the middle of the ocean sometimes and record. We on the boat sometimes for two weeks and there's a studio there. Nobody can go anywhere. For some reason Snoop won't come out on the boat.
SD: I've watched the movie Titanic.
DD: We're just there with a motherfucking microphone and keyboards and the whole shit just constantly recording. And that's what it is. A lot of the music comes from that because we're all in this confined situation.
SD: It's no ego in the room and everyone got to agree.
DD: Yeah. I got a sign in my studio that says, ‘Your ego is not your amigo.’
SD: That’s what makes it fun for me to drop my Snoop Dogg persona and go over there and just really be a student and be a kid again. That's the fun of being with Dr. Dre.
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JHW: So when you're choosing this creative circle of writers and vocalists, what are you looking for? How did you choose those specific people?
DD: Well, it kind of just happens. It's just like somebody knows somebody and then we meet ’em. It's just, like, your talent gets you in the room. Your personality keeps you there. That's how it works.
SD: And Dr. Dre is the master of utilizing a room. Like this room right here. Some of y'all may think y'all not talented in music, but he could find something in every last one of you motherfuckers in here. And you know I ain't lying.
DD: You're on cowbell. You're on tambourine. We going to figure this shit out. It is gumbo.
JHW: Snoop, who's in your dream blunt rotation? Dead or alive.
SD: I really want to smoke with and do a record with Sade. I think we would have a nice time smoking and then going right into a session that Dr. Dre produced.
DD: I love Sade.
JHW: That’s one person. Maybe two or three more?
SD: Michael Jordan.
DD: Not Michael Jackson?
SD: I smoked next to Michael Jackson.
JHW: Okay, Michael Jordan, Sade, is there one more person?
SD: Muhammad Ali.
"I really want to smoke with and do a record with Sade." -Snoop Dogg
JHW: Dre, who's in your dream blunt rotation? Dead or alive?
DD: I’m going to go with [Kurt] Cobain. Ella Fitzgerald. I really like this version of her singing “’Round Midnight.” Thelonious Monk and George Clinton. But I smoked one time with Snoop.
SD: What happened to you?
DD: I fucking realize what God looks like. I'm never smoking with this motherfucker again.
JHW: Snoop, on the last song you say, “Call this my victory lap and this might be my last dance.” Are you hinting at retirement?
SD: What? What is that? We don’t know what that word is. I don’t know how to golf.
DD: Why do people say I'm retired? What the fuck is that? Why do you say I'm retired? Look, I've seen motherfuckers say I'm retired and then come out of retirement the next month. What the fuck? Why say I'm retired? Retire and do what?
Eminem Delivers Monologue About Sex In Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre ‘Missionary’ Commercial
"I think it's time to take it back to the basics," Em says in the funny clip.
Snoop Dogg stays true to form with ‘Missionary,’ Dr. Dre’s production shines
3 out of 5 stars
In his 42nd project, Snoop Dogg collaborates with Dr. Dre on “Missionary,” an album with unsurprising raps and an authentic Los Angeles sound. Dr. Dre’s tracks feature swaying beats and notes of true 90s West Coast hip hop, while Snoop Dogg’s raps have a less exciting familiarity.
“Missionary” dropped Dec. 13 under Death Row, Aftermath and Interscope Records. The 16-song album notably features Sting, Tom Petty, Jhené Aiko and BJ The Chicago Kid.
As a casual Snoop Dogg listener and lover of West Coast hip hop, I can say Dr. Dre carried this album. There is not a single unenjoyable beat. Every song felt crafted with purpose by Dr. Dre’s.
Dr. Dre is an O.G. West Coast producer with limitless talent, and “Missionary” shows it. Without feeling caught in the past, his beats are as recognizable and entertaining as they were in his N.W.A. group days.
Conversely, Snoop Dogg’s sound is uninteresting, with his work on “Missionary” not standing out from other projects. While some tracks have unexpected features that are worth a second listen, almost every song on “Missionary” sounds like a Snoop Dogg song I’ve heard before.
As prolific as he is, I expect an avid listener could pick out some repetitive motifs in his music. However, I don’t regularly listen to Snoop Dogg, and I find several of the track’s lyrics redundant, missing the nostalgic element that Dr. Dre’s production offers.
For example, on “Now or Never” he raps, “Cooking up Martha Stewart, know you n—– smell the scent.” Snoop Dogg has been branding himself alongside Stewart for years. It was funny for a while, but the bit is overused now.
One of the highlights of “Missionary” is “Outta Da Blue.” The song features a rare Dr. Dre verse and tactful articulation from Snoop Dogg. “Outta Da Blue” is danceable, and Alus’s chorus pays homage to M.I.A.’s “Paper Planes.”
I never expected Aiko to collaborate with Snoop Dogg, since they have significantly different sounds, but “Gorgeous” may be the best song on the album. Aiko’s elegant vocals break up Snoop Dogg’s rhythmic verses.
“Another Part Of Me” with Sting shocked me. The song felt like snagging front-row seats to a rock concert. The collaboration features Sting’s incredible guitar skills, a more virtuosic verse from Snoop Dogg and a Dr. Dre beat that includes audience chatter and applause.
“Sticcy Situation” featuring K.A.A.N and Cocoa Sarai is a song you can drive around to with friends in the summer. Sarai delivers the chorus in the cadence of “Tom’s Diner” by Suzanne Vega, and Dr. Dre’s track has a distinctly swaying LA sound.
In “Fire,” Jamaican American singer Sarai has a more reggae vibe, with Dr. Dre adding steel drums to the polyrhythmic beat. But the track doesn’t fit the energy of the rest of the album, and Snoop Dogg’s delivery doesn’t match the soulful accent Sarai brings to the song.
“Last Dance With Mary Jane” was a disappointing, unsophisticated collaboration. Tom Petty and Jelly Roll are supposed to provide a country flair to the album, but the narrative is underdeveloped. The song sounded like it wasn’t supposed to be country and would have been more impressive if Snoop Dogg had more creatively developed his story solo.
Dr. Dre reminded us of his closeness with Eminem on “Gunz N Smoke.” The track features 50 Cent and Eminem on a quick and percussive beat. 50 Cent shines, but the beat seems too quick for Snoop Dogg and too lowkey for Eminem’s aggressive delivery.
The album should have ended with “Now Or Never” featuring Dr. Dre and BJ The Chicago Kid. BJ The Chicago Kid has lightweight vocals on the chorus that complement the weighty and forceful delivery Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre bring with their verses.
The last two songs, “Gangsta Pose” and “The Negotiator,” water down the album. Again, Dr. Dre’s production is outstanding, but Snoop Dogg’s lyrics and delivery put Dr. Dre’s talents to shame. Snoop Dogg tries to close the album with self-pride in “The Negotiator,” but the song is an unconvincing reflection of where he stands in his career and music in general.
He raps, “Call this my victory lap, and this might be my last dance,” possibly referencing Nipsey Hussle’s last album before he was murdered, titled “Victory Lap,” and Michael Jordan’s documentary series “The Last Dance.” If this is Snoop Dogg’s way of saying he’s bowing out of music, comparing himself to Hussle and Jordan was not the way to do it.
Don’t expect much novel or outstanding content when you listen to “Missionary.” This version of Snoop Dogg belongs on a just-for-fun, casual listening playlist. Listen to “Missionary” for Dr. Dre and the few stand-out collaborations.
Missionary Is a Museum Exhibit
The 1996 Vibe cover stacking Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, 2pac, and Suge Knight in a Queen-like diamond was an almost instant vintage. Friction between Death Row Records co-founders Dre and Suge led the producer to leave the label a month after the issue hit shelves, later to join Jimmy Iovine in a venture called Aftermath Entertainment. A piece of the appeal of Dre’s 1999 sophomore album, 2001, was the sense that he’d painstakingly gotten some of the old band back together. The Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit show at Super Bowl LVI in 2022 excited fans who never got the promised sequel to the Up in Smoke Tour. But you rarely see half of these people in the same room anymore.
Things just ain’t the same for Dre and Snoop, the gangsta-rap godfathers whose rule-breaking crassness and scandalous storytelling helped coax Time Warner to dump its piece of Interscope Records in 1995 under pressure from Senator Bob Dole. Today, the good doc is most present in Forbes roundups and the abundance of Beats headphones in music videos; the dog doesn’t go more than a few months without a moment of whimsical virality. But a trickle of lurid headlines and lawsuits this decade, which followed the 2010s’ reassessment of stories of abuse from Dr. Dre’s past, suggests that his relative wholesome turn is not the entire picture. Dre suffered an aneurysm and three strokes in 2021 during an acrimonious divorce proceeding; a marriage counselor who saw the couple is now suing him for verbal abuse. Dre seems eager to reassert the breadth of his talent and toast to his own legacy. Music gives the fans something to latch onto; they can’t bump mergers and acquisitions in the whip. Meanwhile, Snoop’s just out here doing things: pretending to be an NFT buyer of mild renown, making a splash at the Paris Olympics, investing in Klarna. In 2022, he bought Death Row out from a Blackstone tributary, but none of the six projects he put out that year grazed the top half of the Billboard 200. Missionary, he and Dre’s first album together since 1993’s Doggystyle, finds two men making furtive strides toward the old crossover dominance and re-examining their bygone formulas.
Missionary is a precarious balancing act attempting to please not just people who grew up annoying their parents singing the chorus to Doggystyle’s “Who Am I? (What’s My Name?)” but the listener whose entry point into hip-hop was 50 Cent and Eminem’s tandem reign of terror, not to mention youth who mostly know Snoop as a humorist and weed celebrity. The new music reconciles the gradual readjustment of the rapper and producer’s public perception from bad influences to household names via the arrogance and thankfulness you expect from a stoned uncle. Snoop is more perseverant than threatening here, though the short film accompanying Missionary nods to a bloody, Tarantino-esque Up in Smoke Tour clip as the rapper and producer play two telepathic assassins. The most memorable bars on the album are raunchy toasts to longevity — “I prolly had your auntie on my tour bus,” “Sticcy Situation” muses — and maintaining the adaptability required to beat a murder case and later host sketch-comedy and reality-TV shows. “Skyscrapers” with Method Man braids all the disparate threads of Snoop’s persona together briskly: “Mama, look at me now / Martha on speed dial / Verified in the streets / Rap sheet, got a lot of fans.” Missionary is as much a monument to the pervasive slipperiness of Snoop Dogg as it is to the sorely missed fruitfulness of his working relationship with Dre. He raps like the consummate ’90s West Coast veteran on the swanky G-funk update “Gorgeous,” but the flows in “Skyscrapers” bear surprising resemblance to the brusque short sentences of modern New York drill.
It’s not dimming talent that sowed disinterest in Snoop’s recent catalogue; there’s gems everywhere. It’s the lack of an outside editor, someone to say “no.” His finest work over the last decade has been the product of huddling with a single producer (the 2013 Dām Funk team-up 7 Days of Funk, 2015’s Bush with the Neptunes). Dr. Dre, one of few people Snoop would admit he agonizes to impress, drives a hard bargain and pushes his charges to greater heights, historically existing as much in the Tom Wilson category of producers who work the room as in the Marley Marl lineage of sample wizardry and the Quincy Jones tradition of studio albums as talent showcases. Missionary’s title implies a return to the ominous, ornate G-funk Dre used on Snoop’s first album, but the doc who showed is the one whose music thrives on workout playlists, who made the simultaneously lush and spacious beats on The Marshall Mathers LP, Get Rich or Die Tryin’, and The Documentary. Missionary feels like an object plucked from the alternate universe where Snoop joined the Aftermath fold after the Master P deal.
Dre thinks in stadiums and product placements. So Missionary applies his tendencies toward intricate tunefulness to a wide-ranging set of sounds whose median is fleet, percussive tracks like “Outta Da Blue,” a mountain of clattering drum hits nodding to Busta Rhymes’s “Dangerous,” Schoolly D’s “Saturday Night,” and M.I.A.’s “Paper Planes” all at once. The sample selection is feisty: “Last Dance With Mary Jane” takes Tom Petty up on an offer in the Dre-and-Jimmy docuseries The Defiant Ones to make a hit out of his 1993 non-album weed banger; “Another Part of Me” is a Police cover delivered the way a 2003 OutKast might approach. As Dre howls “Make some noise if you don’t give a fuck” while someone plucks out the Andy Summers riff from “Message in a Bottle,” you wonder where the intended audience might be that finds this edgy.
Snoop can mind the twists. But a feeling that the duo returned to its stomping grounds to reclaim a very specific portion of its legacy dwindles with every push for crossover appeal. “Hard Knocks” restores the feeling until a youth chorus appears rapping en Hamiltonian masse about “motherfuckers” and “pissy hallways” in homage to Pink Floyd’s “Another Brick in the Wall, Pt. 2,” eliciting a chuckle. The album is a frothy showcase for the gifts of the ICU — the collective that worked with Dre on 2015’s Compton, Eminem’s The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce), GTA Online’s “The Contract” soundtrack, and more — that brings pronounced Aftermath-era energy to a Death Row reunion. Yet Missionary strains to reconcile fan service to different eras, yielding a track list that feels uneven.
The songs that grate at least stick around for thrilling second and third verses, revealing a rapper as unafraid to pour himself into a quirky concept as he is attentive to a fishy social-media trend. The most obnoxious sample flips are flexes from Dre, who’ll have you know actual Sting plays on the Police remake. The better ones are testament to Dre’s MPC gifts. Their plentiful nods to hip-hop classics match the joy and disbelief of the disrespectful, autobiographical testimonies Snoop offers. Missionary revives Dr. Dre’s idea of a mainstream rap blockbuster, with his everlastingly versatile student using the spectacle as a noisy reminder that he’s one of the nicest ever to touch a mic when he applies himself. But the pop gestures and Swizz Beatz-y slaps make for an album that, like its title, skews more straightforward than its freaky lineage required.
Missionary’s concerted push for cross-pollinating radio markets while delivering the beefy, energetic music populating video-game soundtracks feels a bit self-conscious for a duo that earned these achievements a generation ago through sheer unruly magnetism. The success of Kendrick Lamar’s “Not Like Us” and GNX are proof Cali rap can still draw in disparate demographics. He gleaned this from watching his predecessors hold a mirror to the murderous face of the country. The giants of the ’90s dragged nationwide sensibilities westward: Their songs were undeniably tuneful descendants to already infectious funk ancestors; lyrics surveyed the grisly state of the decade and advised the listener to get theirs while they can because it’s a dog-eat-dog world. Missionary says it’s incredible that these two are still kicking, and, by the way, they’re moguls with businesses to tend to. So here’s something you want (the dream collab heads wishcasted since the message-board dawn of the rap internet) for something they want (the eyes of advertising-averse patient-zero millennials and junior Gen-Xers who might like a Gin & Juice shot). When the pair stops fishing for casuals, focusing on impressing each other and the musicians in orbit, the album’s pedigree flashes. Missionary is a museum exhibit of disparate eras in winding careers. Some scenes show the world-beating defiance this empire is built on; others, the gleeful package and sale of gangster authenticity in the ensuing years, the wedge which helped Snoop, Dre, and others like them — Jay-Z, VH1-era T.I. — pivot to television and business conglomerates. But what would the album that didn’t give a fuck what anyone thought look like?
Correction: A previous version of this review listed the incorrect magazine for the Death Row cover.
Snoop Dogg & Dr. Dre's 'Missionary' Set For Disappointing First-Week Sales
Published on: Dec 18, 2024, 1:00 PM PST
Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre‘s Missionary is set to penetrate next week’s Billboard 200’s chart — just not as deep as they, or anyone else, were probably expecting.
According to HITSDailyDouble, the long-awaited album from the legendary duo is projected to earn just 36,000 equivalent units in its first week.
With that figure, the project will likely debut at number 20 on the Billboard 200, behind previously-released rap albums such as Tyler, The Creator‘s Chromakopia and Kendrick Lamar‘s GNX.
If the forecast is accurate, Missionary would be one of Snoop’s least commercially successful albums and by far Dre’s worst performing release.
Tha Doggfather has dropped a series of low-selling projects in recent years, with Bible of Love, Algorithm and Bacc on Death Row all struggling to crack the top 100 on the Billboard 200.
Dre (who produced Missionary but isn’t technically billed as a lead artist) has never debuted outside of the top 10 or sold less than 200,000 first-week units.
Despite this, the N.W.A legend has heaped high praise on Missionary in terms of its quality, calling it one of the best efforts of his decorated career.
During an interview with Entertainment Tonight earlier this year, Dre said: “This one’s gonna show a different level of maturity with his lyrics and with my music. I feel like this is some of the best music I’ve done in my career […] I’m not playing.”
The 16-track album boasts appearances from fellow Hip Hop heavyweights Eminem, 50 Cent and Method Man, as well as Sting, Jelly Roll, Jhené Aiko, BJ The Chicago Kid and the late Tom Petty.
The former two feature on “Gunz N Smoke,” which marks the first-ever collaboration between Snoop, Dre, Em and 50 as a four-man unit in their long-running working relationship.
The groovy track contains several nods to the late, great Notorious B.I.G., with 50 and Snoop both borrowing from the former Bad Boy MC in their verses.
In addition to a star-studded guest list, Missionary was supported by a cinematic short film directed by the Grammy-winning Dave Meyers.
Wrong
Oxnard had an insane amount of hype back then and Paak was supposed to be the next best thing
You spend too much time on the West Coast forums and think all music fans in general have the same amount of hype for a Snoop album produced by Dre in 2024 as we do
I liked Compton more than this one, kinda disappointing but ok just to listen just a few times for now at least
No man, your opinions come from a biased west coast fan who thinks 2 household names hold the same weight that they used to hold 20 years ago. Bro this ain't a west coast history lesson, me being from another country doesn't change the fact that I understand the sales topic better than you do (https://i.ibb.co/RHqpVfL/15.png). I mean, how do you think I've predicted this result like 6 moths before the album came out? I gave you the reason why that album sold as little as it did. If you don't understand how 17 years of garbage can hurt your career and image then there's nothin else I can say that'll make you see the truth.
paak had insane amount of hype? where??
paak never had a commercial hit in his life.. the same cats that was hyped for him was the aftermath fans on here who were excited because dre was producing his album lolllll .. and STILL, he debuted at number 11 .. twice as good as dre+snoop .. and that was AFTER he just put out an album the year before
but to pretend like his hype should be the same as 2 global rap icons + arguably the greatest rap duo in hip-hop history reuniting on death row/aftermath + backed by interscope records is flat out retarded
my opinions don’t come from dubcc russians such as yourself dude
i’m actually in the thick of this shit n can tell you first hand what’s what as far as this west coast rap shit goes brother
dre and snoop should be doing better than 36,000 + debuting at 20 on the charts …. PERIOD
dre and snoop should be doing better than 36,000 + debuting at 20 on the charts …. PERIODSee, that's the problem with you man. The way you're saying it makes it obvious that you still think of them as the 2 main artist come from the west. Snoop and Dre "should be" doing more than 36k, as if nothing has changed since 2000, it's like saying Em should still be doing a million first week.
SD: Do you think your music sounds better now?
DD: Yes.
SD: I don't.
See, that's the problem with you man. The way you're saying it makes it obvious that you still think of them as the 2 main artist come from the west. Snoop and Dre "should be" doing more than 36k, as if nothing has changed since 2000, it's like saying Em should still be doing a million first week.
so while a “still dre” type song wouldn’t get them gold in the first week nowadays like it did in 1999, it would be good enough to do AT LEAST current eminem numbersBrother sorry but you are absolutely delusional if you seriously believe that and it shows that you're completely out of touch with the reality and the current music situation (which is understandable, but still...)
the problem isn’t only in snoop spreading himself thin like u so vehemently proclaim.. it’s also in the quality of music and lack of hits.I guarantee you, the problem here isn't quality. While Missionary is not anything special, it's far from a bad album. It's crazy naive to believe this would be doing any better if it was a G-Funk record.
u can argue that all u want, but it’s a universal rule my friendBro I would love to see that universe in which dropping one good album after 17 years of garbage could make you the biggest rapper in the world again overnight...
but that’s just the thing.. em is still selling huge amounts and debuting at number 1
did snoop water down his brand? sure … but still no reason that a snoop+dre album should be doing 20x worse than an eminem album
the problem isn’t only in snoop spreading himself thin like u so vehemently proclaim.. it’s also in the quality of music and lack of hits.
if dre & snoop made “still dre” + “tha next episode” in 2024 and “gorgeous” + “outa da blue” in 1999, then 1999 would been a bad year and 2024 woulda been the year they took over the game
that’s a fact
the west coast hip-hop consumer wants quality west coast hip-hop above all
so while a “still dre” type song wouldn’t get them gold in the first week nowadays like it did in 1999, it would be good enough to do AT LEAST current eminem numbers
u can argue that all u want, but it’s a universal rule my friend
if "thank you" would be promoted well with a music video and good marketing instead releasing the demo in drinkchamps a month ago before album drops, it would make a nice impact and sales.
I personnally enjoy this album, flows well from start to finish, Snoop sounds really good on it.
I would buy the CD version if Thank You was on it. I wil wait for a re-release of the album with the track on it.
I hope Snoop Dogg continues to drop music with Death Row.
Where’s the proof? Saying it’s fake doesn’t mean shit! I’ve seen many videos & pics of Snoop signing these but the videos you attach give no proof!!
Absolutely not. There was a chance for a Dre solo project to achieve that, but not for a Snoop's album.
I think Dre putting out Marsha Ambrosius album is decent evidence he may not care much about sales anymore. No way he expected that album to sell.
Brother sorry but you are absolutely delusional if you seriously believe that and it shows that you're completely out of touch with the reality and the current music situation (which is understandable, but still...)
"AT LEAST current Em's numbers" damn....I guarantee you, the problem here isn't quality. While Missionary is not anything special, it's far from a bad album. It's crazy naive to believe this would be doing any better if it was a G-Funk record.
Em dropped an absolute dogshit that is Revival back in 2017, and it still did almost 300k. That alone should tell you that the quality isn't the main factor in all this.
Compton didn't have any hits and wasn't exactly a "quality music" by Dre standards, ... Still moved 300k because Dre didn't stained his legacy by dropping 10 low quality projects every year
If this was a Dre solo album it would've moved 80-100K.
Tyler dropped a project with some experimental shit on it that sounded absolutely nothing like a west coast album, but still did insane numbers which shows that the "real west coast hip-hop consumer" is a very small minority
Bro I would love to see that universe in which dropping one good album after 17 years of garbage could make you the biggest rapper in the world again overnight...
if "thank you" would be promoted well with a music video and good marketing instead releasing the demo in drinkchamps a month ago before album drops, it would make a nice impact and sales.
I googled again, the 36k are digital purchases or physical, stream is counted in the charts but not in the purchases? I know in my umfalls like work, no one who buys cd's or digital, only streaming
thank you would’ve definitely did better than gorgeous or outa da blue wit a proper push
but still NOWHERE near the level of a dre classic .. it’s a cool song, but for example, if it were on 2001 or the chronic it would still be the worst song on those albums.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Luq4DMujeRE
I understand there are some shortcomings on the album, but do you like anything about it? You not loving Snoops flows on here??
Dre's name is attached to the albumName being attached =/= a solo project though
like i said, it’s not a bad album … there are some good songs
and snoop does sound fresh in parts, but it sounds more mechanical in others, if u get what i’m saying
like dre tried really hard to channel 93 snoop, and while some of it works, a lot of it sounds overly contrived
i honestly haven’t listened to the album much, but from what i did hear, i liked sticcy situations, pressure, fire, gunz n smoke and a couple others
https://www.youtube.com/v/d-pxXyslz4I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-pxXyslz4I)
I have never seen anyone as lucky as Dah Dah, Snoop keep pushing him and supporting him but no improvement in his work, Guap delivers way better work.
Dah needs to step his game up, go and learn from some top Music Video directors, his style is repetitive and boring now.
This is my party song from the album, went straight into my hip hop party playlist, I expect better visuals
Lmfao people on this forum forcing themselves to listen to the album numerous times so the brain gets used to it and it finally sounds ok. Now you know how radio brainwashes you with the same BS again and again on the airwaves until it sounds ok. You same guys all love Despacito and Post Malone repeating the word Psycho?
Lmfao people on this forum forcing themselves to listen to the album numerous times so the brain gets used to it and it finally sounds ok. Now you know how radio brainwashes you with the same BS again and again on the airwaves until it sounds ok. You same guys all love Despacito and Post Malone repeating the word Psycho?
this album way more different than compton. only "outta da blue" sounds like a compton leftover and thats why we all hate it.
and we have many songs reminds me "old dre" that we love but in a new way.
check the fucking instrumentals especially like
"hard knocks", it sounds like a early 2000s dre beat which played live with a band. (beat switch could sound better if was shorter)
"pressure" also sounds like "choke me spank me" of Xzibit, even the flow and rap style, but this one is 2024 type of shit. just check 2 songs and u'll get it.
"thank you" instrumental is going to make u understand what dre was trying to do with "under pressure" song back in the day. that demo always sounded "wack" to me but i remember dre said its a demo and he is not finished with it yet. Thank you is a fucking banger and from top to bottom, with its tempo, drum programming, sound effects the way he uses synth bass it is just doctor mf dre... damn!
"negotiator" also sounds like the only track everybody loved on compton, "talking to my diary". that song deserves a chorus and extra verse to look like a casual song. string orchestration reminds me early detox projects.
skyscrappers beat also sounds like unreleased detox banger "popped off"... i loved that beat,horns and orchestration. sometimes you dont need a chorus. this track is like the "xplosive" of Missionary. an extra dr. dre verse and an rnb verse would make it way more better but im still fucking with it.
"fire" bassline is classic chronic 2001 shit. drums reminds me "the wash" song. i'm pretty sure fredwreck is highly resposible with the beat. it might sound jamaican but this is pure west coast brothers. when i heard the instrumental i realised they missed the opportunity with not having b-real on this motherfucker.
"sticky situations" reminds me lots of dre songs at the same time but i cant be sure which ones they are, im so confused, sometimes i feel "no diggity" vibe. beat switch brought me to wash soundtrack again, was it "on the boulevard" beat? some reminds me that. also at the end we hear some dj quik vibe. damn this song is too west coast, isnt it?
"gunz n smoke" sounds like a beat from "the massacre" of 50 cent. it brought me to those days so it feels really nice.
am i wrong? someone support me :)
if you are still not fucking with the album listen to the instrumentals first try to feel dr. dre touch and appriciate it, then jump into normal album and appriciate snoop's performance. it will change your mind. just do what i say.
Dre's projects are only as good as the strength of his collaborators. The ICU is decent enough, they're good, very good, great producers even. I personally find Dem Jointz style to be rhythmically awkward and noisy but some people might appreciate it's 'uniqueness', Dre certainly does.
but his previous team (Elizondo, Batson, Storch, Parker etc) especially at their peak were truly AMAZING and that's the difference here. same goes for Compton and with pretty much everything else inbetween.
You are insane
Some of us might not like the album, but it doesn't mean talk about their psyche.
You are insane
Lmfao people on this forum forcing themselves to listen to the album numerous times so the brain gets used to it and it finally sounds ok. Now you know how radio brainwashes you with the same BS again and again on the airwaves until it sounds ok. You same guys all love Despacito and Post Malone repeating the word Psycho?
Dre's projects are only as good as the strength of his collaborators. The ICU is decent enough, they're good, very good, great producers even. I personally find Dem Jointz style to be rhythmically awkward and noisy but some people might appreciate it's 'uniqueness', Dre certainly does.
but his previous team (Elizondo, Batson, Storch, Parker etc) especially at their peak were truly AMAZING and that's the difference here. same goes for Compton and with pretty much everything else inbetween.
dre is simply not the same dre. it happens to the best of em.
You are insane
Some of us might not like the album, but it doesn't mean talk about their psyche.
Which is to be expected. Father Time is undefeated.I like this
- NWA Dre = Michael Jordan in the 80s
- Chronic era Dre = MJ's first 3-peat
- Aftermath compilation era Dre = MJ playing baseball
- 2001 era Dre = MJ's second 3-peat
- Detox/Compton era Dre = MJ on the Wizards
- Missionary era Dre = MJ owning the Hornets
Which is to be expected. Father Time is undefeated.
- NWA Dre = Michael Jordan in the 80s
- Chronic era Dre = MJ's first 3-peat
- Aftermath compilation era Dre = MJ playing baseball
- 2001 era Dre = MJ's second 3-peat
- Detox/Compton era Dre = MJ on the Wizards
- Missionary era Dre = MJ owning the Hornets
Actually, you should stay neutral as a producer, instead you Diss your colleagues from the WestCoast all the time, even though you worked with members of Snoop, that's pathetic -Sccit-
It just comes across that you want to insist on everyone that the album is bad, no matter, it just takes some getting used to, some like it, others hate it, something like that hasn't existed for a long time. In the new interview he explains why it sounds different, as much as I understand it
huh??
who did i diss? are u retarded bro?
i’m giving my objective opinions on the music
i am the biggest dre apologist here .. i modeled my production techniques after him and even use his teammates as co-producers and engineers on my own work .. i love dre .. i used to spend a good portion of my life fighting anyone that would claim dre isn’t hands down the goat who does more when he produces a track than anyone else in rap history …. u couldn’t tell me shit when it comes to dre… but that won’t stop me from keepin it 100 bro. i’m one of the few here who calls compton a classic. don’t get in your feelings.
Meanwhile, Amazon is finally delivering the Missionary CD to me tomorrow. :grumpy:That's crazy, Amazon sent mine the day it came out.
Say what you want, but this album awoke this forum out of a decade-long slumber. This board was dead for a while there...
That's crazy, Amazon sent mine the day it came out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s49oRlYj1Z0?si=O21rZyPyIYobaQtW
Dre and Snoop plan a 2. Project to Missionary for the tracks that are not on the album
ALOT OF INFOS ON THIS INTERVIEW. A MUST WATCHLooks like dre didn't want Nate Dogg on this album ;(
Looks like dre didn't want Nate Dogg on this album ;(
On bootleg kev interview snoop said dr. Dre mixed the whole the last meal album from top to bottom. But in credits he gets mixing credit for 8 songs. How is it possible?Could be misremembering. 8 songs is a lot so he probably felt like it was the whole thing
Could be misremembering. 8 songs is a lot so he probably felt like it was the whole thing
Jimmy was behind releasing "Outta the Blue" as the first single, it reminded him of Run DMCLol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s49oRlYj1Z0&t=200s
Jimmy was behind releasing "Outta the Blue" as the first single, it reminded him of Run DMC
There might be a project with 6(?) songs that didn't make the album called "Shit outta luck"
Dre wanted to start fresh so no Nate Dogg vocals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s49oRlYj1Z0&t=200s
Jimmy was behind releasing "Outta the Blue" as the first single, it reminded him of Run DMC
There might be a project with 6(?) songs that didn't make the album called "Shit outta luck"
Dre wanted to start fresh so no Nate Dogg vocals
I bet the 6 tracks they left off sound more in line with what the regular fans were wanted to hear, and instead they chose to add more commercial and universal sounding tracks.
I would love to hear these unreleased tracks. My guess is they are going to sound more in line with Sticcy Situation/ Hard Knocks type vibe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s49oRlYj1Z0&t=200s
Jimmy was behind releasing "Outta the Blue" as the first single, it reminded him of Run DMC
There might be a project with 6(?) songs that didn't make the album called "Shit outta luck"
Dre wanted to start fresh so no Nate Dogg vocals
Lol
And he was also behind adding Thank You to the final tracklist, so he's kinda responsible for the best and the worst song on it
so Jimmy had the right idea for a 1st single, a joint with Snoop and Dre rapping back and forth
but he didn't hear the beat?
Still think it’s better than Compton. Snoop is really rapping and I could never get over Dre’s voice and flow on Compton. Not to mention some of the effects he tried to put on others voices. Havnt heard it in a while but remember the vocals being more bothersome than the beast. On a side note talking to my diary is the dopest beat on either project.
On bootleg kev interview snoop said dr. Dre mixed the whole the last meal album from top to bottom. But in credits he gets mixing credit for 8 songs. How is it possible?
LOLLLLLL
snoop probably thinks dr dre produced tha doggfather
hanging on to his words when it comes to interviews is hilarious
I agree. Compton is worse than Missionary, but Talking to My Diary is the best song across both albums.
I think the biggest sin that Missionary commits is that Dre had Snoop conform to Dre's sound rather than the other way around. As a result, Missionary doesn't feel like a Snoop Dogg album to me. It's very impersonal. It's a shocking miscalculation by Dre. He knows better. The producer should craft a sound that complements his artist rather than forcing the artist to adopt a sound that doesn't fit. It's a shame because Snoop did his part whereas Dre didn't.
I think the biggest sin that Missionary commits is that Dre had Snoop conform to Dre's sound rather than the other way around. As a result, Missionary doesn't feel like a Snoop Dogg album to me. It's very impersonal. It's a shocking miscalculation by Dre. He knows better. The producer should craft a sound that complements his artist rather than forcing the artist to adopt a sound that doesn't fit. It's a shame because Snoop did his part whereas Dre didn't.
Feels like they picked the wrong writers for Snoop, the ICU team didn't study Snoop properly; the best song writer for Snoop is Soopafly. Also excluding the Death Row roster (new and old) from this project was a mistake, they would have brought that missing element; that dogghouse soulfood
Thank You being the best song on the album is also dated.
Although well produced, I see this album as a failure musically.
remember when he said Nas was on the OG "Got My Mind Made Up"?
Daz had to correct him ;D
i don't think daz can correct someone at all.
Feels like they picked the wrong writers for Snoop, the ICU team didn't study Snoop properly; the best song writer for Snoop is Soopafly. Also excluding the Death Row roster (new and old) from this project was a mistake, they would have brought that missing element; that dogghouse soulfood
Thank You being the best song on the album is also dated.
Although well produced, I see this album as a failure musically.
I think there are good bars and clever worldplays, i appriciate the ghostwriters. Also i heard old snoop dogg in some songs like hard knocks, thank you, pressure... i think his tone is very close to his tone in "the last meal" album. Snoop was already using ghostwriters in his wack previous albums. I like the way dre produced his flow, cadance, lyrics and tone. Snoop is really glowing on this album as one of the goats.
i havent heard one person say they like outta da blue LMAO...that shit sucks.
Dre allowing snoop to release a janky Fire video by Da Baker is proof that Dre dont give a fuck. This was orders from the higher ups/marketing for nasty alcohol...all that said, pretty good, probably snoop's 5-8th best album for me
I liked it after couple of spins.
You'll be kicked outta da forum soon.
By the way I wonder why Dre changed Thank You sound - this one from Drink Champs sounds way better then final version.
? Why?
You'll be kicked outta da forum soon.
because u said you like outta da blue. this is enough to be banned here.
just to wish everyone in the thread a Merry Christmas. whether you love or hate the album, the ICU at the end of the day it's just music and Dre has given plenty of classics to go back and revisit. Snoop sounds pretty good regardless 8)
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obligatory STILL GIN for everyone!
just to wish everyone in the thread a Merry Christmas. whether you love or hate the album, the ICU at the end of the day it's just music and Dre has given plenty of classics to go back and revisit. Snoop sounds pretty good regardless 8)
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obligatory STILL GIN for everyone!
I wish we had a track in that style on the album
https://open.spotify.com/track/7HVw2FSZqmFBjuhvee1mXQ
Dope
Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all who celebrate 8)
To everyone that feels Dre should have worked with anyone outside of the ICU, who would that group be? I think at this point in Dre's career, can he start over with a new group of producers/writers/etc.? I think the trust level he has with this team over the past decade plus all he had going on outside the studio (divorce, health issues) makes me feel that this is it until he says let's start over.Jelly Roll + Battlecat are great examples of still making dope west coast beats in 2024.
Also, the critique of the beats/production not being like 2001 or early to mid Detox, what should his beats sound like? Who is making beats that sound like what yall are looking for? Mxxwll? Anomalie?
Jelly Roll + Battlecat are great examples of still making dope west coast beats in 2024.
To everyone that feels Dre should have worked with anyone outside of the ICU, who would that group be? I think at this point in Dre's career, can he start over with a new group of producers/writers/etc.? I think the trust level he has with this team over the past decade plus all he had going on outside the studio (divorce, health issues) makes me feel that this is it until he says let's start over.
Also, the critique of the beats/production not being like 2001 or early to mid Detox, what should his beats sound like? Who is making beats that sound like what yall are looking for? Mxxwll? Anomalie?
1500 or Nothin!!!
Even Alchemist!
mars from 1500 or nothin is a beast
we workin wit him on my solo debut
To everyone that feels Dre should have worked with anyone outside of the ICU, who would that group be? I think at this point in Dre's career, can he start over with a new group of producers/writers/etc.? I think the trust level he has with this team over the past decade plus all he had going on outside the studio (divorce, health issues) makes me feel that this is it until he says let's start over.dre will never top or find anyone better than his mid 2000s detox crew, they understood the mission dre was on for detox and they put their foot in every single song they made. some of the best sampling, original beats and ideas ever made in hiphop. all the producers were competing with each other to out do each other everytime they got together for beat listening sessions for dre. they were all huge fans of each other and respected each of them to a very high regard. ICU just doesnt have that, they just dickride whatever mid dre tells them to do, thats why were stuck listening to overproduced 90s flips instead of genre changing talented musical beats that fans and producers would be jealous of hearing like how the fuck did they do that. 2001 crew were ok but they werent doing anything as creative or mindblowing as the detox crew. sucks the public wont ever hear them. detox wouldve truly changed the course of hiphop if it dropped in 2011 as planned. oh well i guess lol.
Also, the critique of the beats/production not being like 2001 or early to mid Detox, what should his beats sound like? Who is making beats that sound like what yall are looking for? Mxxwll? Anomalie?
dre will never top or find anyone better than his mid 2000s detox crew, they understood the mission dre was on for detox and they put their foot in every single song they made. some of the best sampling, original beats and ideas ever made in hiphop. all the producers were competing with each other to out do each other everytime they got together for beat listening sessions for dre. they were all huge fans of each other and respected each of them to a very high regard. ICU just doesnt have that, they just dickride whatever mid dre tells them to do, thats why were stuck listening to overproduced 90s flips instead of genre changing talented musical beats that fans and producers would be jealous of hearing like how the fuck did they do that. 2001 crew were ok but they werent doing anything as creative or mindblowing as the detox crew. sucks the public wont ever hear them. detox wouldve truly changed the course of hiphop if it dropped in 2011 as planned. oh well i guess lol.
look .. the detox sessions kill the joints on missionary
but what joints from the detox leaks do u consider better than 2001? LOL
Sh*t Popped Off - the original one with T.I. (not the one with that crappy hook about "models/bottles"). Yes, The Buchanans produced it, but Dre probably had his hands in it.
I can't say Topless with Nas, but its up there
Personality I really liked DJ khalil’s Detox Beats, especially this one:Yeah, Khalil beats from that era were something else man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnwgfjFO00M?si=_9LjUWxCXfxc6yyc
To everyone that feels Dre should have worked with anyone outside of the ICU, who would that group be? I think at this point in Dre's career, can he start over with a new group of producers/writers/etc.? I think the trust level he has with this team over the past decade plus all he had going on outside the studio (divorce, health issues) makes me feel that this is it until he says let's start over.
Also, the critique of the beats/production not being like 2001 or early to mid Detox, what should his beats sound like? Who is making beats that sound like what yall are looking for? Mxxwll? Anomalie?
the best Detox tracks never leaked and weren't produced by Khalil.
there's the Slim The Mobster myspace clip (not the one below where he's in the studio) which included a clip of piano beat blazing through the corridor, this sort of thing.
also the anecdotes about the 'best beat ever' created in early 2009 produced by Elizondo & Batson. these are the ones going on Detox we never heard.
the prime era for Detox seems to be around the time Dre was fucking with Slim The Mobster. the Psycho beat was dope too, this is more like the 2001 sound updated and incredibly dope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERYuK3WTWeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9qD1_Wfr4
I swear it feels like this guy just saying all that shit for attention at this point lol
Most of the track on both Compton and Missionary were better than most of Detox leaks other than T.I joints (Topless, Popped off etc) and maybe Get It
"creative or mindblowing" lmao as if we haven't heard Chillin, Flashin', Under Pressure, Turn me up and all that other uninspired wack shit with Nate Dogg impersonators on the hooks
His 2006-2009 Detox sessions were the greatest thing ever, judging by the beats than ended up on Snoop, Em and Busta albums, but the leaks from that era were definitely not it. I remember when Under Pressure leaked, that was the moment when people went from "When will Detox come out" to "Is Detox gonna be good?"
And how did Dre repay T.I.?This was a dope radio record but fell short of the Detox leaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK_7_amS0EI
shit popped off is dope but prolly woulda been the worst track on 2001 lol .. sounds like a beat he woulda given to jay-z for kingdom come
topless is probably the best example of a detox track that could match 2001 level
Most of the track on both Compton and Missionary were better than most of Detox leaks other than T.I joints (Topless, Popped off etc) and maybe Get It
"creative or mindblowing" lmao as if we haven't heard Chillin, Flashin', Under Pressure, Turn me up and all that other uninspired wack shit with Nate Dogg impersonators on the hooks
His 2006-2009 Detox sessions were the greatest thing ever, judging by the beats than ended up on Snoop, Em and Busta albums, but the leaks from that era were definitely not it. I remember when Under Pressure leaked, that was the moment when people went from "When will Detox come out" to "Is Detox gonna be good?"
the best Detox tracks never leaked and weren't produced by Khalil.
there's the Slim The Mobster myspace clip (not the one below where he's in the studio) which included a clip of piano beat blazing through the corridor, this sort of thing.
also the anecdotes about the 'best beat ever' created in early 2009 produced by Elizondo & Batson. these are the ones going on Detox we never heard.
the prime era for Detox seems to be around the time Dre was fucking with Slim The Mobster. the Psycho beat was dope too, this is more like the 2001 sound updated and incredibly dope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERYuK3WTWeM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9qD1_Wfr4
thought i had heard all the detox lore, first hearing of the best beat ever talk..
was that in some interview?
And how did Dre repay T.I.?Gave him RED leftover lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK_7_amS0EI
I swear it feels like this guy just saying all that shit for attention at this point lol
Most of the track on both Compton and Missionary were better than most of Detox leaks other than T.I joints (Topless, Popped off etc) and maybe Get It
"creative or mindblowing" lmao as if we haven't heard Chillin, Flashin', Under Pressure, Turn me up and all that other uninspired wack shit with Nate Dogg impersonators on the hooks
His 2006-2009 Detox sessions were the greatest thing ever, judging by the beats than ended up on Snoop, Em and Busta albums, but the leaks from that era were definitely not it. I remember when Under Pressure leaked, that was the moment when people went from "When will Detox come out" to "Is Detox gonna be good?"
i dont rate 2001 highly, aside from still dre, watcher and the message, the album is pretty boring. all the detox leaks are x100 better but i prefer mid 2000s evolved dre over the boomer raps on 2001.
look .. the detox sessions kill the joints on missionary
but what joints from the detox leaks do u consider better than 2001? LOL
I swear it feels like this guy just saying all that shit for attention at this point lolsly is a fire writer and wrote some insane shit for detox, hes not a nate dogg impersonator at all, thats just a weak excuse to diss him. yall judging leftover leaks when nothing real has ever leaked. all the leaks as they are right now are all 10/10 before comparing them to actual detox songs. all 10s right now but only a 6/10 compared to real shit, thats how fire detox was. yall just been fed alot of bad and wrong info over the years and its ruined yall perception of how incredible detox was. maybe some day yall will get a chance to hear some of the real shit, surprised a bunch of them havent leaked cuz people have had them since 2007.
Most of the track on both Compton and Missionary were better than most of Detox leaks other than T.I joints (Topless, Popped off etc) and maybe Get It
"creative or mindblowing" lmao as if we haven't heard Chillin, Flashin', Under Pressure, Turn me up and all that other uninspired wack shit with Nate Dogg impersonators on the hooks
His 2006-2009 Detox sessions were the greatest thing ever, judging by the beats than ended up on Snoop, Em and Busta albums, but the leaks from that era were definitely not it. I remember when Under Pressure leaked, that was the moment when people went from "When will Detox come out" to "Is Detox gonna be good?"
thought i had heard all the detox lore, first hearing of the best beat ever talk..real detox lore was on early twitter and ustream back in the day. no one ever saw them cuz it was only told to certain people and stream links were sent to a select few. khalil had the best beats, not elizondo and batson lmao, they had fire stuff but it wasnt in the best category. khalil, just blaze, dawaun parker, jake one and few others had THE best stuff.
was that in some interview?
real detox lore was on early twitter and ustream back in the day. no one ever saw them cuz it was only told to certain people and stream links were sent to a select few. khalil had the best beats, not elizondo and batson lmao, they had fire stuff but it wasnt in the best category. khalil, just blaze, dawaun parker, jake one and few others had THE best stuff.
The album doesn't go that bad, top 10 Billboard charts reached, last album 15 years ago. 12.24.2024
https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/snoop-dogg-missionary-top-10-debut-billboard-charts-1235865112/
r&b & hip-hop charts
20 on the main charts
As bad as some people are saying Missionary is, have a look at the amount of views and replies this thread has in comparison to Ice Cube and Kendrick Lamar. Obviously, it's biased because this forum is primarily for fans of the 90s but pricing this in, the amount of talk around Missionary is substantial. Also, the controversy of opinion is part of what can (and in most instances does) popularize art - in some cases making it iconic. Just an observation.
I really take no issue with those who don't care for the album. It's simply not for you. Admittedly, it isn't even the record I wanted from them as I've explained before. But stepping over my own wants, I think the record is undeniably masterful for what it is, which is honestly much bigger than what I want. So as a fan who would like to see these two succeed at keeping the west on the map paired with taste in music that extended beyond the 90s in all directions - even it that means I don't get the record I want personally - I can look beyond my own nose.
That's not to say I offer blind support. I did not like the Compton record at all. It had no replay value for me. I've listened to Missionary 8 times straight through since its release. I haven't done that with a record in this genre for quite a while (or even with this artist quite frankly), which I think speaks for itself in terms of how I feel about the album. I'm always rooting for these two and I keep an open mind to their creative angles, but if I do not understand a record in terms of what it's trying to accomplish, I have no problem saying so. That's not to say I cannot appreciate things I don't necessarily like. I don't like Eminem but talent is talent. The man has it and I understand his philosophy. But the Compton record just wasn't cohesive to me - in every aspect despite the musical talent involved in making it. However I will say that sonically, it's exceptional. I may not like what I'm hearing in terms of content or arrangement but the sound quality itself is stunning.
To me, Missionary has a clear direction and message as a complete body of work. When the singles dropped, I didn't understand what that direction and message was - it had been too long and the pieces to the puzzle were jumbled and out of order. But once the complete record dropped and I listened to it in its entirety, everything became immediately clear. Missionary is grown up. It even makes the older material sound even older, which I think is part of the main point of this album: Evolution. With evolution, we see something different but familiar. Certain recognizable traits from the past that are part of the core but accompanied by never aspects that are required if survival is the goal. I think this album struck a very good balance between old and new in ways I hadn't thought of and wasn't expecting. You know exactly who you're listening to but everything around it is largely different. The record doesn't get to far away from you though - certain familiar sounds sprinkled throughout remind me of the record I wanted without actually giving it to me. The lyrics do this too in tandem. That's a brilliant way to make use of an open mind and keep the listener engaged and intrigued - it's a musical way of asking for trust and holding the listener's hand through something new. Ultimately, the final decision is the listener's but this clever method scores major points and gets the listener through the record without just shutting it off or skipping around a lot. That technique alone - whether you like the record or not - is a sort of genius that helps make any record that employs it demand respect. And part of any great work of art is respect.
Just my two cents.
sly is a fire writer and wrote some insane shit for detox, hes not a nate dogg impersonator at all, thats just a weak excuse to diss him. yall judging leftover leaks when nothing real has ever leaked. all the leaks as they are right now are all 10/10 before comparing them to actual detox songs. all 10s right now but only a 6/10 compared to real shit, thats how fire detox was. yall just been fed alot of bad and wrong info over the years and its ruined yall perception of how incredible detox was. maybe some day yall will get a chance to hear some of the real shit, surprised a bunch of them havent leaked cuz people have had them since 2007.Please tell us more about how amazing Detox was, we totally sure you have heard it and your info is legit (https://i.ibb.co/NYnTWP3/10.png)
Then it's still good for Snoop, take a look at the top 20 what society hears today. #1 Stray Kids lol
That slim tha mobster video is probably one of my favorites from that time period
Its the banger of all banger dear lord what a monster beat!!!!!
there is a guy in the video who Dre was fucking with at the time bringing these big drums and orchestral sounds.
another example 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=266pkFBj6bk
As bad as some people are saying Missionary is, have a look at the amount of views and replies this thread has in comparison to Ice Cube and Kendrick Lamar. Obviously, it's biased because this forum is primarily for fans of the 90s but pricing this in, the amount of talk around Missionary is substantial. Also, the controversy of opinion is part of what can (and in most instances does) popularize art - in some cases making it iconic. Just an observation.
I really take no issue with those who don't care for the album. It's simply not for you. Admittedly, it isn't even the record I wanted from them as I've explained before. But stepping over my own wants, I think the record is undeniably masterful for what it is, which is honestly much bigger than what I want. So as a fan who would like to see these two succeed at keeping the west on the map paired with tastes in music that extends beyond the 90s in all directions - even it that means I don't get the record I want personally - I can look beyond my own nose.
That's not to say I offer blind support. I did not like the Compton record at all. It had no replay value for me. I've listened to Missionary 8 times straight through since its release. I haven't done that with a record in this genre for quite a while (or even with this artist quite frankly), which I think speaks for itself in terms of how I feel about the album. I'm always rooting for these two and I keep an open mind to their creative angles, but if I do not understand a record in terms of what it's trying to accomplish, I have no problem saying so. That's not to say I cannot appreciate things I don't necessarily like. I don't like Eminem but talent is talent. The man has it and I understand his philosophy. But the Compton record just wasn't cohesive to me - in every aspect despite the musical talent involved in making it. However I will say that sonically, it's exceptional. I may not like what I'm hearing in terms of content or arrangement but the sound quality itself is stunning.
To me, Missionary has a clear direction and message as a complete body of work. When the singles dropped, I didn't understand what that direction and message was - it had been too long and the pieces to the puzzle were jumbled and out of order. But once the complete record dropped and I listened to it in its entirety, everything became immediately clear. Missionary is grown up. It even makes the older material sound even older, which I think is part of the main point of this album: Evolution. With evolution, we see something different but familiar. Certain recognizable traits from the past that are part of the core but accompanied by newer aspects that are required if survival is the goal. I think this album struck a very good balance between old and new in ways I hadn't thought of and wasn't expecting. You know exactly who you're listening to but everything around it is largely different. The record doesn't get to far away from you though - certain familiar sounds sprinkled throughout remind me of the record I wanted without actually giving it to me. The lyrics do this too in tandem. That's a brilliant way to make use of an open mind and keep the listener engaged and intrigued - it's a musical way of asking for trust and holding the listener's hand through something new. Ultimately, the final decision is the listener's but this clever method scores major points and gets the listener through the record without just shutting it off or skipping around a lot. That technique alone - whether you like the record or not - is a sort of genius that helps make any record that employs it demand respect. And part of any great work of art is respect.
Just my two cents.
This pretty much sums up how I feel perfectly!
Is it the sound that/direction I expected or wanted? No.
I couldn't understand the project initially when the singles dropped and was a little worried when I heard all the snippets on itunes.
However, one I heard the whole album from beginning to end, I thought this isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be. Once I got over the totally different change in direction/vibe of what I wanted/expected, I really got into it.
It really works as one whole project instead of individual songs, and i've listened to it from beginning to end almost every day!
It lacks individual bangers but the album is definitely a hit for me.
The short length of the tracks (and overall the album), is now understandable. Any longer and I don't think it will work quite as well.
I was listening to some of Snoop's previous albums (later releases) like Neva Left, and they really sound bland, inconsistent and slapped together in comparison.
As bad as some people are saying Missionary is, have a look at the amount of views and replies this thread has in comparison to Ice Cube and Kendrick Lamar. Obviously, it's biased because this forum is primarily for fans of the 90s but pricing this in, the amount of talk around Missionary is substantial. Also, the controversy of opinion is part of what can (and in most instances does) popularize art - in some cases making it iconic. Just an observation.
I really take no issue with those who don't care for the album. It's simply not for you. Admittedly, it isn't even the record I wanted from them as I've explained before. But stepping over my own wants, I think the record is undeniably masterful for what it is, which is honestly much bigger than what I want. So as a fan who would like to see these two succeed at keeping the west on the map paired with tastes in music that extends beyond the 90s in all directions - even it that means I don't get the record I want personally - I can look beyond my own nose.
That's not to say I offer blind support. I did not like the Compton record at all. It had no replay value for me. I've listened to Missionary 8 times straight through since its release. I haven't done that with a record in this genre for quite a while (or even with this artist quite frankly), which I think speaks for itself in terms of how I feel about the album. I'm always rooting for these two and I keep an open mind to their creative angles, but if I do not understand a record in terms of what it's trying to accomplish, I have no problem saying so. That's not to say I cannot appreciate things I don't necessarily like. I don't like Eminem but talent is talent. The man has it and I understand his philosophy. But the Compton record just wasn't cohesive to me - in every aspect despite the musical talent involved in making it. However I will say that sonically, it's exceptional. I may not like what I'm hearing in terms of content or arrangement but the sound quality itself is stunning.
To me, Missionary has a clear direction and message as a complete body of work. When the singles dropped, I didn't understand what that direction and message was - it had been too long and the pieces to the puzzle were jumbled and out of order. But once the complete record dropped and I listened to it in its entirety, everything became immediately clear. Missionary is grown up. It even makes the older material sound even older, which I think is part of the main point of this album: Evolution. With evolution, we see something different but familiar. Certain recognizable traits from the past that are part of the core but accompanied by newer aspects that are required if survival is the goal. I think this album struck a very good balance between old and new in ways I hadn't thought of and wasn't expecting. You know exactly who you're listening to but everything around it is largely different. The record doesn't get to far away from you though - certain familiar sounds sprinkled throughout remind me of the record I wanted without actually giving it to me. The lyrics do this too in tandem. That's a brilliant way to make use of an open mind and keep the listener engaged and intrigued - it's a musical way of asking for trust and holding the listener's hand through something new. Ultimately, the final decision is the listener's but this clever method scores major points and gets the listener through the record without just shutting it off or skipping around a lot. That technique alone - whether you like the record or not - is a sort of genius that helps make any record that employs it demand respect. And part of any great work of art is respect.
Just my two cents.
Bought the vinyl and listened to it a bunch the past week. I will say this one does get better with time. Once you get over the fact that it's not Doggystyle II and sounds nothing like the old Death Row sound, it's really not that bad of an album. Snoop's flow hasn't sounded this good in decades. It has some good replay value. Very few skips for me.
In contrast, Ice Cube's new album, i liked about 4 or 5 songs and they blew me away when i first heard them, and i'm already tired of listening to them.
great.. now you can buy the Hibernation Shivers vinyl and force yourself to like that one too
:shittedon:
35% off through New Years wit promo code holidays
:urwelcome:
You don't need to go in between all the time, let people hear and buy what they want, just because you don't like it, slowly I think that this forum has become an advertising campaign just for you and is no longer a free forumNo shit. This my thoughts too. Scitt constantly trying to force his opinion on people like his is the only one that matters, hating on this Snoop album to try to make his own shit seem better. After not really checking in here or posting in a decade or so, I came back to this forum because of Missionary. Not to read about what Scitt thinks every third post or hear about Hibernation Shivers.
You don't need to go in between all the time, let people hear and buy what they want, just because you don't like it, slowly I think that this forum has become an advertising campaign just for you and is no longer a free forum
No shit. This my thoughts too. Scitt constantly trying to force his opinion on people like his is the only one that matters, hating on this Snoop album to try to make his own shit seem better. After not really checking in here or posting in a decade or so, I came back to this forum because of Missionary. Not to read about what Scitt thinks every third post or hear about Hibernation Shivers.
Need to get off the forcing ourselves to like it bit. Some albums take time to adjust to just cause they aren’t a sound we’re used to from the artist. I hated game is to be sold not to be told when it first dropped cause it wasn’t a signature sound from snoop and after a few weeks I grew to like most the album. Wasn’t due to forcing myself to. I remember the first two days of hearing Blue Lips I told my son I wasn’t feeling it, by day three it started hitting and that became my favorite album this year. But at the end of the day as the saying goes, opinions are like assholes ….
Agree 100%. It's not forcing to like it. Sometimes if things are outside the comfort zone, new or not expected, sometimes it just takes a little time to come to re-adjust.
I use to feel the same way with olives or some alcoholic spirits. I initially disliked the taste when I first tasted it, then I soon loved the taste.
Music can be the same
look at the weirdos here hating because i’m promoting the holiday deal for the rbx project in jest
and ironically, the same cats hating are the same ones who showed ZERO support for hibernation shivers
clown shit
calling this “not a free forum” when there is damn near zero restrictions all because i make posts talking about RBX album or giving an opinion that doesn’t align with yours is pathetic
the RBX album isn’t even stickied and hasn’t been for months.. the way i run this forum is predicated on fairness & integrity, something u weirdos wouldnt understand
and this clown PLANT (who still owes me an eighth from 15+ years ago on a bet that he welched on) has the nerve to speak negatively on me because i give my opinions on a hip-hop forum created for opinions
we get it.. your hoe ass likes missionary. you literally just went in the redman thread trashing his new album and talking about how much u love missionary in there, and u have the nerve to question me??
:dwill:
No shit. This my thoughts too. Scitt constantly trying to force his opinion on people like his is the only one that matters, hating on this Snoop album to try to make his own shit seem better. After not really checking in here or posting in a decade or so, I came back to this forum because of Missionary. Not to read about what Scitt thinks every third post or hear about Hibernation Shivers.
Imagine if people told master p to keep quiet about his releases. Or if people told Suge not to talk so much about his projects
You guys are annoyed by the slightest thing. If you don’t like what sccit has to say Just keep discussing missionary who cares or go make an account on the Coli
Imagine if people told master p to keep quiet about his releases. Or if people told Suge not to talk so much about his projects
You guys are annoyed by the slightest thing. If you don’t like what sccit has to say Just keep discussing missionary who cares or go make an account on the Coli
But a Master P or Suge would not provoke discussions in this forum or other members of this forum, they don't need that
But a Master P or Suge would not provoke discussions in this forum or other members of this forum, they don't need that
It's not just about the RBX album. It's about when people talk, he intervenes and provokes discussions again as if we were stupid here, that's not professional in his situation
look at the weirdos here hating because i’m promoting the holiday deal for the rbx project in jestAy man I made one post in the Redman thread and made my opinion on the album. You’ve literally had like 500 posts in this Missionary thread and most of them have nothing to do with the album.
and ironically, the same cats hating are the same ones who showed ZERO support for hibernation shivers
clown shit
calling this “not a free forum” when there is damn near zero restrictions all because i make posts talking about RBX album or giving an opinion that doesn’t align with yours is pathetic
the RBX album isn’t even stickied and hasn’t been for months.. the way i run this forum is predicated on fairness & integrity, something u weirdos wouldnt understand
and this clown PLANT (who still owes me an eighth from 15+ years ago on a bet that he welched on) has the nerve to speak negatively on me because i give my opinions on a hip-hop forum created for opinions
we get it.. your hoe ass likes missionary. you literally just went in the redman thread trashing his new album and talking about how much u love missionary in there, and u have the nerve to question me??
:dwill:
Ay man I made one post in the Redman thread and made my opinion on the album. You’ve literally had like 500 posts in this Missionary thread and most of them have nothing to do with the album.
Look at your own comments how you talk to the members here, that says it all
none of my posts have anything to do wit the album?
are u brain dead??
bruh, u legit might have more posts in here than me
u just a hateful individual .. like that aftermathbeats chump
y’all mad cuz i ain’t vibin wit the album like you guys are
if i was makin a bunch of posts talkin bout how much i love it u wouldn’t say shit
that’s not real
Look at your own comments how you talk to the members here, that says it all
let’s rewind …. who talked shit to who first?
i will send you a hibernation shivers vinyl cd and tshirt signed by RBX for free if you can find just one instance of me talkin shit to a member here without them comin at me sideways first
you can’t do it hoe
i asked if you were retarded the other day
now it’s no longer in question
he is still promoting ;D ;D ;D ;D
No shit. This my thoughts too. Scitt constantly trying to force his opinion on people like his is the only one that matters, hating on this Snoop album to try to make his own shit seem better. After not really checking in here or posting in a decade or so, I came back to this forum because of Missionary. Not to read about what Scitt thinks every third post or hear about Hibernation Shivers.
Well said👏🏾👌🏾
supporter role call:
infinite
dwax
topdogg
mat
detox is a myth
heisenberg
doggfather
higheyecue
wardy
jay jay
astra
narrator
sikotic
hitsaw
malcy
:salute:
am i missin anyone?
https://www.instagram.com/p/DEF7MhouAsC/?igsh=aTU4cjQ4YjFlNjZ3
Poor replay value on this album. Same with Marsha's, which is weird because her other albums are great in the R&B genre. The same thing happened ith Anderson Paak, he released an album shortly after the one with Dre's involvement and it had a better reception. Maybe Dre lost it?
I am glad I am in the minority of people who loved this album.. waited a while for this and we may never get another one 8)
We wil never get another one with Snoop. But with Em and 50 maybe.
50 Cent & Eminem - Bulletproof Verses (Produced By Dr. Dre)
1.“Intro: The Blueprint of Bullets” (Produced by Dr. Dre)
2.“Bulletproof Verses” (Lead Single, Produced by Dr. Dre and Scott Storch)
3.“Shady Hustler” (Eminem & 50 Cent, Produced by Dr. Dre)
4.“West Coast Venom” (Feat. Dr. Dre, Produced by Dr. Dre and Mike Elizondo)
5.“Legacy in Blood” (Eminem, 50 Cent & Dr. Dre, Produced by Dr. Dre)
6.“Dead Presidents” (Eminem & 50 Cent, Produced by Scott Storch)
7.“Microphone Mayhem” (Feat. G-Unit, Produced by Dr. Dre and Scott Storch)
8.“Curtains Closed, Shots Fired” (Eminem Solo Track, Produced by Dr. Dre and Mike Elizondo)
9.“Unstoppable” (50 Cent Solo Track, Produced by Scott Storch)
10.“Gangsta’s Resurrection” (Feat. Dr. Dre, Produced by Dr. Dre)
11.“Detroit to Queens” (Eminem & 50 Cent, Produced by Dr. Dre)
12.“Dysfunctional Family” (Feat. D12, Produced by Mike Elizondo and Dr. Dre)
13.“Venom in the Veins” (Eminem & 50 Cent, Produced by Dr. Dre)
14.“The Real Hustlers” (50 Cent Solo Track, Produced by Scott Storch)
15.“Blood and Bars” (Eminem, 50 Cent & Dr. Dre, Produced by Dr. Dre and Mike Elizondo)
16.“Champions of Chaos” (Eminem & 50 Cent, Produced by Dr. Dre)
17.“Outro: Eternal Verses” (Spoken Outro by Dr. Dre, Produced by Dr. Dre)
18.“Hidden Track: The Last Word” (Bonus Track featuring Eminem, 50 Cent & G-Unit, Produced by Dr. Dre and Scott Storch)
Christmas is already over
I don't understand the hype, the album isn't coming out anyway, ok with Eminem you never know, but honestly, how many tracks that you really celebrate did the two of them make together, be it on Eminem Feat. 50 or 50 feat Eminem albums
Is This Love ('09) (Feat. 50 Cent)
Never Enough (Feat. 50 Cent & Nate Dogg)
Encore / Curtains Down (Feat. Dr. Dre & 50 Cent)
Patiently Waiting (Feat. Eminem)
Psycho (Feat. Eminem)
tracks like Drips (Feat. Obie Trice) beat technically
I wish he would go back to The Marshall Mathers LP times, best album, but unfortunately you've already seen how business works Stan (Feat. Dido)
Poor replay value on this album. Same with Marsha's, which is weird because her other albums are great in the R&B genre. The same thing happened ith Anderson Paak, he released an album shortly after the one with Dre's involvement and it had a better reception. Maybe Dre lost it?
tbh I wasn't a huge fan of the album anyway so its not like I was going to revisit it much
currently I got tha Doggfather bumping in the system and this non Dre produced album's beats sound better to me than the beats on Missionary...go figure
It's missing that soulfulness , Snoop is all about vibes and grooves and this album is missing that. To me Dr.Dre is about great sounds and impeccable engineering, but when it comes to the musicality, he doesn't have it like that. He would do great at scoring movies and games. If Missionary was done by SNOOP X QUIK, the result would have been way better in my humble opinion.author=jman91331 link=topic=340652.msg3200285#msg3200285 date=1735420593]
Poor replay value on this album. Same with Marsha's, which is weird because her other albums are great in the R&B genre. The same thing happened ith Anderson Paak, he released an album shortly after the one with Dre's involvement and it had a better reception. Maybe Dre lost it?
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If.
If you didn't like the Dre production on Missionary, you mean to tell me you'd be fine with a Quik produced version, are you kidding me? Have you not heard his last 3 projects (Midnite Life, Rosecrans, and those recycled beats he did on Chupacabra) he fell off. I'm one of the biggest Quik fans around but the truth is the truth. Him and Snoop never really clocked except for Don't Tell (and maybe the 1st some off Ego Trippin) they styles don't mesh
author=jman91331 link=topic=340652.msg3200285#msg3200285 date=1735420593]
If.
If you didn't like the Dre production on Missionary, you mean to tell me you'd be fine with a Quik produced version, are you kidding me? Have you not heard his last 3 projects (Midnite Life, Rosecrans, and those recycled beats he did on Chupacabra) he fell off. I'm one of the biggest Quik fans around but the truth is the truth. Him and Snoop never really clocked except for Don't Tell (and maybe the 1st some off Ego Trippin) they styles don't mesh
midnite life was great and rosecrans was arguably a classic
There was nothing worth tripping over here, I played this album twice, put it away and will not be going back to it for years!!! Nothing stood out… Complete flop imo!
Missionary = Anal ass rape
I haven't listened to it since I gave it a full playthrough, and bumped the Sting song on repeat a few times, and now I haven't gone back to it.
The old motif in rap used to be that a rapper would be hungry and struggle his way up the underground and finally breakthrough and become platinum. Then he would get surrounded by a lot of "yes man" -- distance himself from the streets and lose traction. Then the follow up to the platinum record would be a flop. Sort of like the Doggystyle to Doggfather transition.
This scenario is like 10X what we used to see in the traditional days of rapper when everything was more simple. We've really never seen anything like this. I mean, Snoop is more than just a rapper who broke through and went platinum, the guy is an icon, and Dre his a billionaire. Snoop did the Olympics for God's sakes. He might even be on his way to being a billionaire with all his endorsements.
Then the age factor is unprecedented. I still always bring up the funny fact that Too Short had a "Retirement Party" when he first retired at age 29, you can still see clips of it in the classic documentary Rhyme and Reason. It seemed normal for a rapper to retire at 29 back in the golden era. These guys are 20-30 years beyond that!!!!!!!!
I say all that to say this. It was miraculous when Dre pulled off the COMPTON album (but that was before he sold his soul and started throwing up devil horns). It was miraculous when Xzibit pulled off Napalm around the age of 40. Those albums made me believe it was possible for rappers to just continue to be dope forever. But I was wrong. It seems the old motif holds true. You got to be hungry and keep your ears to the street to stay dope in hip-hop.
It's missing that soulfulness , Snoop is all about vibes and grooves and this album is missing that. To me Dr.Dre is about great sounds and impeccable engineering, but when it comes to the musicality, he doesn't have it like that. He would do great at scoring movies and games. If Missionary was done by SNOOP X QUIK, the result would have been way better in my humble opinion.
:snoop:
I agree with your criticism that Dre is concentrating on the technical side of things too much and has forgotten to have fun in the studio and it seems to show in the production (it's too clinical, lacks soul).
Having said that, Quik is also very hit and miss these days.
I'm still regularly bumping Missionary from beiginning to end!
Quik, doesn't seem to be out of touch musically, he would definitely align with Snoop and put together a nice project, just like Pharrell did with BUSH, I could even mention Terrace Martin, great chemistry with SnoopQuik's best shit is the slightly uptempo more club type beats (like Down Down Down) Snoop's style fits more slower, funky beats (What's My Name, Gin and Juice). Someone like Suga Free excelled with Quik because his flow allowed Suga Free to shine over that tempo and bounce that Quik is known for. Snoop and Quik are both talented and they could definitely sit down and come up with some dope shit if they did an album, but to me it would sound forced.
Quik's best shit is the slightly uptempo more club type beats (like Down Down Down) Snoop's style fits more slower, funky beats (What's My Name, Gin and Juice). Someone like Suga Free excelled with Quik because his flow allowed Suga Free to shine over that tempo and bounce that Quik is known for. Snoop and Quik are both talented and they could definitely sit down and come up with some dope shit if they did an album, but to me it would sound forced.
You can't keep quoting Whays My Name or Gin and Juice...also Press Play is a great Quik and Snoop collab.
Also Snoops freestyle over Suga Free's Angry Enough, is great too
see .. people can say or quote whatever the hell they feel ….. that’s why it’s a free forum ….. like i told those other weirdos n the cats that was ridin wit them earlier- there ain’t no restrictions over here. if u have an opinion feel free to share. even when the little bitches whine because it doesn’t align wit their thoughts… pay that hoe shit no mind.. cats gota learn how to build on conversations wit positivity despit a difference of opinion …. and oh yea, go buy hibernation shivers mufucka!
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Disregard if posted. Outta Da Blue sample - apparently the work of some mentally disadvantaged people
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PfxFMc60kaA
https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2024/dec/29/snoop-dogg-and-dr-dre-sample-song-by-london-learning-disabilities-charity
Snoop Dogg & Dr. Dre - Missionary
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Missionary brings Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre back together for an album that taps into their iconic chemistry while offering a more modernized sound. Snoop sounds reinvigorated, delivering rhymes with a presence and energy that’s been missing from some of his recent projects. Dre’s production, as always, is polished and dynamic, leaning into G-funk’s roots on tracks like “Hard Knocks” and “Outta Da Blue.” There’s an undeniable nostalgia baked into Missionary, with callbacks to Doggystyle and The Chronic, but it’s clear this isn’t an attempt to relive the past entirely. Instead, the duo updates their formula with varied musical influences, some of which work better than others.
Tracks like “Gunz ‘n Smoke,” featuring 50 Cent and Eminem, channel the group spirit of early 2000s posse cuts, but the overcrowded guest list can sometimes dilute the album’s cohesion. Songs like “Last Dance with Mary Jane,” with its Tom Petty interpolation and a misfit Jelly Roll appearance, feel out of place and overly polished. Similarly, Sting’s verse on “Another Part of Me” adds novelty but little substance.
Despite its flaws, Missionary offers flashes of the Snoop-and-Dre magic that shaped the West Coast sound. When it sticks closer to its G-funk foundations, it’s an enjoyable listen. The album occasionally overreaches with genre experiments and overuses its features, but Snoop’s refreshed delivery and Dre’s refined beats make this a satisfying, if imperfect, return for the legendary duo.
Snoop Dogg :: Missionary
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Calvin Broadus is an icon. A legend. A GOAT if you will. “Last time I checked, I was the plug to yo’ plug, I’m the fucking connect” quips Snoop Dogg on “Gorgeous” from his latest album “Missionary.” Coming from your average rap artist this might seem conceited but for Snoop it’s just the truth. He was born in 1971, started rapping professional right after he was old enough to vote, and three decades later he’s still in the game. I’d call that impressive but it’s just the tip of his iceberg. He’s become an actor, a paid spokesperson, and an Olympic ambassador for the U.S. This trajectory was at best unlikely. He had to beat a first degree murder charge in the 1990’s just as his star was rising and he was signed to a record label whose CEO was a violent predicate felon. At any point his career could have gone up in smoke like his recreational drug of choice.
In all of the unlikely moments of Snoop’s career from then to now, buying Death Row Records ranks at or near the top, but it speaks volumes about Mr. Broadus and where he’s at now. It enables him to take the most infamous chapter of his career and not only own it but shape its legacy to future generations. It also enables him to add “mogul” to his list of titles and provides a pivot point to make major moves. He’s still the star of the story even when he’s sharing the spotlight with equally iconic artists like the late Tom Petty on “Last Dance with Mary Jane,” but going forward he can use his fame and status to put on the next generation. As long as he’s not as shady as Suge this can only be a boon to the game.
In many respects “Missionary” is a power flex. It’s well earned after multiple decades to get to this point, but he definitely pulls off the kind of samples and big name cameos someone with less money or fame could not. I haven’t even mentioned that Jhené Aiko is on “Gorgeous” or Jelly Roll is on “Last Dance” yet, but find one song here where you couldn’t talk about something that would cost a lesser rapper his entire budget. It was obvious that “Thank You” would sample Sly and the Family Stone but it can’t have come cheap. “Outta Da Blue” features Dr. Dre and interpolations of “Paper Planes” and “Been Around the World.” (Side note – Dre’s voice has aged far more than Snoop’s. It’s not a bad thing, but it’s noticeable.) “Skyscrapers” features two guests in Method Man and Smitty and had two different samples to clear. This shit adds up.
If you’re mad at Mr. Broadus for having this kind of wealth and clout that’s your right — you do you. I’m too busy enjoying the riddim of songs like “Fire” featuring Cocoa Sarai. “Shit is timeless, let me present what I’m designing.” I’ve argued since I first started writing (as long ago as Snoop first started rapping) that reggae and rap go hand in hand. In fact it’s not even an argument — if Clive Campbell hadn’t emigrated from Jamaica to New York City then we wouldn’t have hip-hop today. Some things just naturally belong together, which is exactly how I feel about hearing 50 Cent and Eminem on “Gunz N Smoke.” After all Aftermath still gets the last laugh and it’s one of three imprints on this album.
Is “Missionary” the greatest Snoop Dogg album of all time? No. Is it at least as good as “BODR” though, the album that announced his purchase of Death Row? Absolutely. The curse of being in the rap game for as long as Calvin Broadus is that you wind up competing with yourself. He’s got an enormous catalogue of music at this point — mostly good, a few duds, and some genuine classics. Even his lesser albums still managed to generate memorable singles that long-time listeners have percolating in their head and can quote at a moment’s notice. He’s not necessarily the lyrical GOAT, but his verses come with a flair for their delivery few can match. In fact from reading the credits of this album it’s obvious he doesn’t write all of his own bars any more; honestly, I didn’t expect him to. He’s acting, rapping, and running multiple businesses. He could use a little help to get it all done. What he needs no help with is being Snoop — the man, the myth, the legend.
Overall Score 7.5
Music 7.5
Lyrics 7.5
Now that I've given the album some time to marinate I have to say I'm really happy with it. I tried hard not to over-analyze anything. But here's some thoughts I've had:
- Back in the mid 2000s everyone wanted 'grown up' beats with live instrumentation (Like Busta Rhymes "Been Through The Storm"). Now Dre is using a lot of live instruments on this but for some reason it's not hitting like I thought it would. I think the music is so polished and clean sounding that it's lacking the 'grit'. I'd like to hear it on vinyl to see if that makes a difference.
- I don't like the kids on "Hard Knocks"
- I'm not really feelin "Skyscrapers". That sample just makes me hear Jay Z "1-900-Hustler". I think Bink did it better.
- "Now or Never" beat is amazing to me. Love this song. I'm a big BJ The Chicago Kid fan. Glad to see him involved.
- I wish there were some skits. Dre and Snoop always had great skits.
- I think I like this album a lot more than most people on here. It's cool to see who likes what, and how everyone's musical taste is different. Overall I'm really happy to have this album. I wasn't expecting a sequel to Doggystyle, I was just expecting a great album and I got one.
Disregard if posted. Outta Da Blue sample - apparently the work of some mentally disadvantaged people
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PfxFMc60kaA
https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2024/dec/29/snoop-dogg-and-dr-dre-sample-song-by-london-learning-disabilities-charity
low point of the album, terrible choice of sample.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_hH2q7zeao&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecoli.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE
The headline is "Hip-hop legends surprise UK disability charity with unexpected collaboration."
Here's another link to the story behind the sample: https://rollingout.com/2024/12/30/snoop-dogg-dr-dre-charity-sample/
"Proceeds from the single will benefit the charity and the disabled artists who featured on the track, providing crucial support for their ongoing creative endeavors."
Pretty selfless thing to do if you ask me. Well done.
Now that I've given the album some time to marinate I have to say I'm really happy with it. I tried hard not to over-analyze anything. But here's some thoughts I've had:
- Back in the mid 2000s everyone wanted 'grown up' beats with live instrumentation (Like Busta Rhymes "Been Through The Storm"). Now Dre is using a lot of live instruments on this but for some reason it's not hitting like I thought it would. I think the music is so polished and clean sounding that it's lacking the 'grit'. I'd like to hear it on vinyl to see if that makes a difference.
- I don't like the kids on "Hard Knocks"
- I'm not really feelin "Skyscrapers". That sample just makes me hear Jay Z "1-900-Hustler". I think Bink did it better.
- "Now or Never" beat is amazing to me. Love this song. I'm a big BJ The Chicago Kid fan. Glad to see him involved.
- I wish there were some skits. Dre and Snoop always had great skits.
- I think I like this album a lot more than most people on here. It's cool to see who likes what, and how everyone's musical taste is different. Overall I'm really happy to have this album. I wasn't expecting a sequel to Doggystyle, I was just expecting a great album and I got one.
sometimes i imagine snoop performing "hard knocks" on tiny desk with a band and kids choir.
production was the point with the album, it gives you a live performance feeling except of songs like "thank you" and "now or never".
i think thats what dre is talking about what the next hip hop era should be.
We got a taste of this before the Snoop & Marsha albums with the Kanye Remix album (Jesus is King II):
https://untitled.stream/library/project/OZkdz-tju8GsRZvzV1z6g
Snoop Dogg’s ‘Missionary’ Makes Top 10 Debut Across Multiple Billboard Album Charts
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The set arrives in the top 10 on Top Album Sales, Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums & Top Rap Albums.
Snoop Dogg’s Missionary album debuts in the top 10 across multiple Billboard charts, as the set opens in the top 10 on Top Album Sales (No. 7), Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums (No. 7) and Top Rap Albums (No. 3) — all charts dated Dec. 28. It also launches at No. 20 on the overall Billboard 200 chart. On Top Album Sales, Missionary marks Snoop’s highest-charting effort in over 15 years.
Missionary is the first album from Snoop Dogg produced by Dr. Dre since their successful teaming on Snoop’s debut effort Doggystyle in 1993.
Billboard’s Top Album Sales chart ranks the top-selling albums of the week based only on traditional album sales. The chart’s history dates back to May 25, 1991, the first week Billboard began tabulating charts with electronically monitored piece count information from SoundScan, now Luminate. Pure album sales were the sole measurement utilized by the Billboard 200 albums chart through the list dated Dec. 6, 2014, after which that chart switched to a methodology that blends album sales with track equivalent album (TEA) units and streaming equivalent album (SEA) units.
Missionary debuts with 38,000 equivalent album units earned in the U.S. in the week ending Dec. 19, according to Luminate. Of that sum, album sales comprise 20,500, SEA units comprise 16,500 and TEA units comprise the remaining sum.
On Top Album Sales, Missionary is Snoop’s 13th top 10-charting effort and highest charting effort set Ego Trippin debuted and peaked at No. 3 on the March, 29, 2008-dated list.
Snoop & Dre woulda had more sales if they had dropped this on that new cd ;D 8)
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4vozf68xqanyzyg/09+Big+Bitches.mp3/file
Dead End Hip Hop also did a review which I’m surprised.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ZxiX4utsU&pp=ygUEZGVoaA%3D%3D
👍🏽 Another matured, sensible review, positive or negative review doesn’t matter, as long as it’s done in a sensible way.
Compared to some of the distasteful antics on here🙈
Like saying Dre’s aneurysm episode might have affected his production just because you don’t like a song!
That’s how low & classless some cunts are on here
huh?
an aneurism can definitely affect your cognitive abilities. what are you going on about? it’s not a diss homie. it’s like rupturing your achilles in sports.. sure, u can still play- but your prime days are behind you.
the only “classless” thing here is you calling people “cunts” because they have an opinion on the music that u disagree with.
there’s a few of you on here..
:cac:
I don't think Dre's aneurism had anything to do with this at all. You don't think Dre could produce another Doggystyle if he wanted to? Of course he could. He could easily produce songs that sound like 93 again. He has said time and time again he is not doing that kind of music anymore. It is a conscious effort to move on and make different sounding music. It's not my favorite, but I get it. It's the fans' faults for being disappointed when Dre said from Day 1 this was not going to sound anything like his old music, yet people still believed somehow that it was going to sound like Doggystyle II.
"Fore Play" contains an interpolation of "People Make the World Go Round", as written by Thom Bell and Linda Creed, as performed by the Stylistics.
"Shangri-La" contains a sample of "Swahililand", as written and performed by Ahmad Jamal.
"Outta da Blue" contains samples of "Watermelon Fantasy", written by Mandy Priddice, Cedrick Letshou, Tina Bruins, Jack Daley and Oliver Price, as performed by Daylight Studio; "Saturday Night" as written and performed by Schoolly D; and "Scratchin", written by Clayton Ivey and Terry Woodford, as performed by Magic Disco Machine, and interpolations from "Paper Planes", written by Maya Arulpragasam, Mick Jones, Paul Simonon, Topper Headon, Joe Strummer and Wesley Pentz, as performed by M.I.A.; and "All Around the World", written by Lisa Stansfield, Ian Devaney and Andy Morris, as performed by Stansfield.
"Hard Knocks" contains a sample of "Mujer, Gracias por tu Llanto", written by Bernado Baraj, Carlos Mellino and Ricardo Lew, as performed by Alma y Vida, and an interpolation of "Another Brick in the Wall", written by Roger Waters, as performed by Pink Floyd.
"Last Dance with Mary Jane" contains a sample of "Mary Jane's Last Dance", written by Tom Petty and performed by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.
"Thank You" contains a sample of "Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Again)", written by Sylvester Stewart, as performed by Sly and the Family Stone, and an interpolation of "The Watcher", written by Andre Young and Marshall Mathers, as performed by Dr. Dre.
"Pressure" contains samples of "Spider and Fly", as written and performed by Luchi De Jesus; and The Champ, written by Harry Palmer, as performed by the Mohawks.
"Another Part of Me" contains an interpolation of "Message in a Bottle", written by Gordon Sumner, as performed by the Police.
"Skyscrapers" contains samples of "A Donde Quiera", written by Rafi Monclova, as performed by Marco Antonio Muñiz; and "Ain't Gonna Happen", written by Aram Schefrin and Michael Zager, as performed by Ten Wheel Drive.
"Fire" contains a sample of "Come My Love", as written and performed by Ihsan Al-Munzer.
"Gunz n Smoke" contains samples of "Dead Wrong", written by Christopher Wallace, Marshall Mathers, Carl Thompson, Osten Harvey Jr., Al Green; "Who Shot Ya?", written by Wallace, Allie Wrubel, Herb Magidson, Nashiem Myrick and Sean Combs; and "Notorious Thugs", written by Wallace, Bryon McCane, Anthony Henderson, Steven Howse, Combs and Steven Jordan, all as performed by the Notorious B.I.G.
"Say You Love Me", as written and performed by D. J. Rogers.
"Sticcy Situation" contains a sample of "Don't Get Caught", written by Isaac Hayes and David Porter, as performed by Mable John, and an interpolation of "Tom's Diner", as written and performed by Suzanne Vega.
"The Negotiator" contains a sample of "Can't Stop Loving You", written by Carl Marshall and Robert Holmes, as performed by Soul Dog.
Samples credits -
Dear lord. So its not possible to do an album without all those samples?
What's wrong with sampling?
The Chronic & Doggystyle were full of samples and interpolations, so I find it strange it's an now an issue
1. "Fore Play" (ft BJ the Chicago Kid) 4.5/5
2. "Shangri-La" 3/5
3. "Outta da Blue" (ft Dr. Dre & Alus) 3.5/5
4. "Hard Knocks" 2.5/5
5. "Gorgeous" (ft Jhené Aiko) 4.5/5
6. "Last Dance with Mary Jane" (ft Jelly Roll) 0/5
7. "Thank You" 2/5
8. "Pressure" (ft Dr. Dre & K.A.A.N.) 0/5
9. "Another Part of Me" 0.5/5
10. "Skyscrapers" (ft Method Man & Smitty) 1/5
11. "Fire" (ft Cocoa Sarai) 1/5
12. "Gunz n Smoke" (ft 50 Cent & Eminem) 1.5/5
13. "Sticcy Situation" (ft K.A.A.N. & Cocoa Sarai) 1.5/5
14. "Now or Never" (ft Dr. Dre & BJ the Chicago Kid) 1/5
15. "GangstaPose" (ft Dem Jointz, Stalone & Fat Money) 1.5/5
16. "The Negotiator" 1/5
Overall: 1.5/5
What is your top 3 Snoops album?Solo studio album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJgtYFUzVqM
lol
it doesn’t need to sound like his old music to be as good as his old music
this is not as good as his old music…and is no where close tbh.
is it bad music? no… but to answer your question, no, i don’t think current dre could produce something as good as doggystyle. he doesn’t have the hunger and youthful energy to make something as organically dope. he’s overthinking the production, which is why it sounds far more contrived. does the aneurism factor into this? maybe, maybe not.. but the fact remains, dre is out of his prime, and there’s no shame in that. he’s still the goat, by far.
Then it just boils down to personal preference again. I've seen just as many like the album and not like it. And the majority who don't like it are the old schoolers who expected it to sound like 93 Doggystyle.
G-Funk was new in 93, other than Big Hutch and ATL, not many were doing it. Dre took a chance on a new sound and it caught on and did well for a number of years. He's trying to create a new sound now and hopes it catches on and usher in a new era. Doesn't look like it's going to catch on. But you can't blame Dre for doing the exact same thing he did in 93 as far as trying to introduce a new sound. Like i said, he could very easily make an album that sounds like 93 Gfunk....hell he probably has a ton of unreleased instrumentals he made back in 93-96 that he could have had Snoop rap over. This was a conscious decision and Dre took a chance. At his and Snoop's age and levels of success, they can afford to take those chances. It isn't that Dre "fell off", he wants to try new things.
Same reason Andre 3000 isn't rapping anymore. He grew tired of it, after 30+years of rapping, he wants to try something else in life, kudos for that. Same with Dre. He wants to experiment, try new things, new sounds, etc. He does care about sales other than as far as Interscope and Iovine goes, but i really don't think Dre cares at this stage if a bunch of dudes stuck in 96 like the album or not (and i'm one of those dudes stuck in 96). He didn't make the album for us.
Solo studio album
1. Doggystyle
2. Doggfather
3. Tha Last Meal
Imo the production QUALITY is same as it always been, its the STYLE of production it seems people are not feeling. The clarity, the attention to detail, the laws, the vocal production, all that is still there, it's that it's not Doggystyle (which is dumb that people would expect another Doggystyle after 31 years) that threw people off. I appreciate the album myself for what it is.
again, i’m not talking about type of sound.. i’m talking about level of production. like many pointed out, a lot of the stuff he’s doing now sounds like just blaze.. and i’ll take it a step further n say just blaze did it better. so to sit here n say that just blaze music > dr dre music is a testament of the LEVEL in production, not the type of sound. i don’t care if it’s g-funk, rock, jazz or whatever… this music is GOOD not GREAT, which is a fall off for Dre no matter how u slice it
and again, i’m the biggest dre apologist here.. i’ve spent years going to battle against weirdos who claimed he had ghost producers, or cats who claim he steals credit etc….there is no one ever who has been close to peak dre in hip-hop.
but this album, g-funk or not, isn’t up to the dre standard QUALITYwise. not stylewise.
Imo the production QUALITY is same as it always been, its the STYLE of production it seems people are not feeling. The clarity, the attention to detail, the laws, the vocal production, all that is still there, it's that it's not Doggystyle (which is dumb that people would expect another Doggystyle after 31 years) that threw people off. I appreciate the album myself for what it is.
Solo studio album
1. Doggystyle
2. Doggfather
3. Tha Last Meal
4. No Limit Top Dogg
5. Tha Blue Carpet
6. Paid Tha Coast 2 Be Da Boss
7. Ego Trippin
8. R&G
9. B.O.D.R
10. Da Game is to be Sold
11. Malice n Wonderland
12. Bush
13. Doggumentary
14. I wanna Thank Me
15. Missionary
16. Coolaid
17. Snoop Lion
18. Neva Left
19. 220
20. Make America Crip Again
again, i’m not talking about type of sound.. i’m talking about level of production. like many pointed out, a lot of the stuff he’s doing now sounds like just blaze.. and i’ll take it a step further n say just blaze did it better. so to sit here n say that just blaze music > dr dre music is a testament of the LEVEL in production, not the type of sound. i don’t care if it’s g-funk, rock, jazz or whatever… this music is GOOD not GREAT, which is a fall off for Dre no matter how u slice it
and again, i’m the biggest dre apologist here.. i’ve spent years going to battle against weirdos who claimed he had ghost producers, or cats who claim he steals credit etc….there is no one ever who has been close to peak dre in hip-hop.
but this album, g-funk or not, isn’t up to the dre standard QUALITYwise. not stylewise.
1. Doggystyle
2. Tha Last Meal
3. Tha Doggfather
4. Tha Blue Carpet Treatment ( still annoyed that "Look Around and "Long Gone" didn't make the final cut)
5. R&G
6. Top Dogg
7. Paid da cost to be da Boss
8. BUSH
9. Missionary
10. Doggumentary
11. REINCARNATED
12. Da Game is to be...
I consider the rest of those albums mixtapes
i don't get why "Paid da cost to be da boss" album is not in people's top 5. it is a classic. it is one of my favorite snoop albums. it was really satisfying album after a classic like "The Last Meal".6th in mine
This is a totally new sound for Dre. How can you say he fell off? Fell off from what? What are you comparing it to? Dre's never sounded like this before.
This purposely does not sound like his old stuff, that is the whole idea. Production wise, style wise, you name it, he purposely did it differently to create a new sound.
Now you can say personally you don't like his new sound, and personally you don't like his new production team or new techniques or new voice coaching, whatever. But you can't objectively say it's bad or that he's fallen off. Now if he produces another album with this same type of style and it is bad, then you can say he fell off from this. I think this is much better than Marsha's album, which also had the new Dre style, so you could compare it to that if you'd like, but it's a step up from that album, thus invalidating your entire point.
i don't get why "Paid da cost to be da boss" album is not in people's top 5. it is a classic. it is one of my favorite snoop albums. it was really satisfying album after a classic like "The Last Meal".
Album: Snoop Dogg - Missionary
A 30-year reunion which fails to pleasure
by Kathryn Reilly
Wednesday,
08 January 2025
Sometimes magic really can’t be recreated. However hard it’s strived for.
The incendiary magic that was Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg three decades ago has not been conjured again in this long-awaited reunion. There are sparks of genius, for sure, and some notable beats and samples but it’s certainly no Doggystyle. Maybe the clue is in the “cheeky” title and painfully obvious condom packet imagery on the cover. So far, so teen.
One might expect a more mature vocabulary and smarter ideas from the now 53- and 59-years-olds but, sadly – and predictably – we are served liberal sprinklings of effing and jeffing and as many bitches, ganstas, n***as and hoes as you can shake a AK47 at (every track has an explicit content warning donchaknow). Mr Dogg has said his attitude to women has changed since he had a daughter – that’s certainly not evident on this record.
“Snoop Dogg makes the world go round” the cheesy opening track "Foreplay" informs us. “Outta Da Blue” raises the game a little as Dre and Alus (who they?) join in the vocals, which include a bizarre recreation of MIA’s “Paper Planes” chorus. “Hard Knocks” works much better, not least because the funkier mixing (another eclectic inclusion is a kids’ chorus of Pink Floyd’s “Another Brick in the Wall”). The single “Gorgeous” promised so much – this is much more like it, everything working as it should. I bet you can’t do anything but bounce to this.
Let’s face it, it must be hard to take risks when you have so much to lose – the absolute opposite situation from when they first worked together, innovating as they did. They’re now both business moguls, mainstream media fodder and up to their necks in the Olympics, none of which allows them to really push things like back in the proverbial day. And the fact that Martha Stewart gets two mentions kind of sums it all up.
What’s this? Tom Petty on an ode to Snoop’s first love – good old Mary Jane. Truly horrible. The greatest affront though, is the inclusion of Sting’s vocals in “Another Part of Me”. The Police are surely not suitable on any rap song (yes, that includes the dreadful “I’ll be missing you” by P Diddy – if only the world had taken note then), let alone one by the fathers of G-Funk. More appropriately, Eminem and Fiddy turn up on Gunz N Smoke but it’s a tad flat. Perhaps expectations are too high, the heights reached in the past now unattainable, but it’s hard to fathom who this will really appeal to in 2025.
rating 3/5
11.-10-9. Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told & Ego Trippin' & Malice n Wonderland+More Malice
8. R&G (Rhythm & Gangsta): The Masterpiece
7.- 6. Paid tha Cost to Be da Boss & Doggumentary
5.-4. No Limit Top Dogg & Tha Blue Carpet Treatment
3. Tha Last Meal
2. Tha Doggfather
1. Doggystyle
i don’t get what’s so hard to understand
he fell off from a production standpoint…. sonically, it doesn’t hit the same. he coulda did the same exact style with more warmth on the EQ and thickness on the low end it would sound a lot better. Dre was always a master at making the beat hug the vocals, which is something lacking on this album.
He also fell off in terms of layering without any sounds clashing due to an abundance of chaos….this is not about personal taste, but more so in regards to a production method, which is unequivocally a step down from his prime work, where no frequency ever got lost in the mix.
Yes, and i'm telling you he did that on purpose, sonically it does not sound the same. This is a conscious move on his part. He does not want a warm EQ. It's your opinion that it would sound a lot better, so again, you're bringing personal preference into it. Sounds clashing and chaotic sound, again, a conscious move. You don't think Dre could've easily removed some layers or instruments if he wanted to? Of course he could have. He tried something different, you didn't like it, cool. But it wasn't like Dre 'messed up' or 'fell off'. Or tried to make a warm sounding EQ and failed, he didn't even go that route on purpose.
"Soncially it does not sound the same" Sound the same as what?? Chronic 2001? Doggystyle? What are you comparing it to? His old shit, which he said he doesn't want any of his new stuff to sound like anymore.
Again, he's getting away from his old sound. You keep saying 'he used to have vocals hug the beat' 'he used to produce songs with less clashing layers'. That's fine. He also used to produce songs with the Moog whistle, which he's stopped doing. He's also upped the tempo on many of his productions. That doesn't mean he 'fell off'. Just means he's doing things differently now that you don't like. So be it. I'm agreeing with you, i don't really like it either. But it's because we are wanting his old sound, which he is not doing anymore, purposefully.
and what exactly do u think falling off means? …. if i was fucking women until they squirt and then i consciously decided i was done giving women what they want, and i started fucking them all
chaotically with a less cohesive rhythm to my strokes … yea, u can claim that’s a conscious decision …. but that would still mean my pipe game fell off. simple science.
CLASSIX:
1.DOGGYSTYLE
NEAR CLASSIX:
2.THA DOGGFATHER
3.THA LAST MEAL
4.TOP DOGG
5.THE HARD WAY (WIT 213)
6.BLUE CARPET TREATMENT
7.THE LOST SESSIONS
GREAT:
8.7 DAYS OF FUNK
9.R&G
10.PAID DA COST
11.SMOKEFEST
12.DEAD MAN WALKIN
DOPE:
13.COOLAID
14.I WANNA THANK ME
15.BODR
16.MISSIONARY
17.EGO TRIPPIN
18.NEVA LEFT
19.CUZZNZ (WIT DAZ)
SOLID:
20.DA GAME IS TO BE SOLD
21.BUSH
22.DOGGUMENTARY
23.MAC & DEVIN
24.220
25.MAKE AMERICA CRIP AGAIN
26.REINCARNATED
27.MALICE N WONDERLAND
28.MORE MALICE
29.STONERS
30.BIBLE OF LOVE
So you still fuck women till they squirt?
and what exactly do u think falling off means? …. if i was fucking women until they squirt and then i consciously decided i was done giving women what they want, and i started fucking them all
chaotically with a less cohesive rhythm to my strokes … yea, u can claim that’s a conscious decision …. but that would still mean my pipe game fell off. simple science.
Yes, and i'm telling you he did that on purpose, sonically it does not sound the same. This is a conscious move on his part. He does not want a warm EQ. It's your opinion that it would sound a lot better, so again, you're bringing personal preference into it. Sounds clashing and chaotic sound, again, a conscious move. You don't think Dre could've easily removed some layers or instruments if he wanted to? Of course he could have. He tried something different, you didn't like it, cool. But it wasn't like Dre 'messed up' or 'fell off'. Or tried to make a warm sounding EQ and failed, he didn't even go that route on purpose.
"Soncially it does not sound the same" Sound the same as what?? Chronic 2001? Doggystyle? What are you comparing it to? His old shit, which he said he doesn't want any of his new stuff to sound like anymore.
Again, he's getting away from his old sound. You keep saying 'he used to have vocals hug the beat' 'he used to produce songs with less clashing layers'. That's fine. He also used to produce songs with the Moog whistle, which he's stopped doing. He's also upped the tempo on many of his productions. That doesn't mean he 'fell off'. Just means he's doing things differently now that you don't like. So be it. I'm agreeing with you, i don't really like it either. But it's because we are wanting his old sound, which he is not doing anymore, purposefully.
OK good, so we've both come to an agreement that this new sound and production style is something Dre has done intentionally and NOT him losing his touch or making a mistake in mixing/production, this is a conscious decision. Good, now we're in agreement on that.
Now the second part of the discussion is you claiming that he 'fell off' because you don't like this new sound and prefer his old sound from 20 years ago. That's great, it's a subjective point you have made because you wish the album sounded like how Dre USED to produce music. Cool, you fall into that category of wishing Dre went back to his old sound.
But there are people who do like his new sound, especially younger fans, who don't like Dre's old stuff and prefer his new. So, you can't say he 'fell off', how is having a charting album in these days "falling off"? You need to simply say he's not making music in the style and content that you like anymore.
Alot of people like the old Kendrick Lamar from the GKMC and even before that. And now he's selling more records than ever and is more popular than ever. Did he 'fall off' because he doesn't sound like he used to?? No, he simply doesn't make music to your taste anymore. Same thing here.
OK good, so we've both come to an agreement that this new sound and production style is something Dre has done intentionally and NOT him losing his touch or making a mistake in mixing/production, this is a conscious decision. Good, now we're in agreement on that.I agree, saying words like " fell off" is a bit harsh as the quality is still there. It's just different from the old shit. If I bumped into a girl I used to fuck 31 years ago and we end up having sex, I would look like a damn fool thinking and expecting the shit to feel like I remembered it to. Of course it would feel different. I would just be happy I'm hittin it again after 30 something years.
Now the second part of the discussion is you claiming that he 'fell off' because you don't like this new sound and prefer his old sound from 20 years ago. That's great, it's a subjective point you have made because you wish the album sounded like how Dre USED to produce music. Cool, you fall into that category of wishing Dre went back to his old sound.
But there are people who do like his new sound, especially younger fans, who don't like Dre's old stuff and prefer his new. So, you can't say he 'fell off', how is having a charting album in these days "falling off"? You need to simply say he's not making music in the style and content that you like anymore.
Alot of people like the old Kendrick Lamar from the GKMC and even before that. And now he's selling more records than ever and is more popular than ever. Did he 'fall off' because he doesn't sound like he used to?? No, he simply doesn't make music to your taste anymore. Same thing here.
I agree, saying words like " fell off" is a bit harsh as the quality is still there. It's just different from the old shit. If I bumped into a girl I used to fuck 31 years ago and we end up having sex, I would look like a damn fool thinking and expecting the shit to feel like I remembered it to. Of course it would feel different. I would just be happy I'm hittin it again after 30 something years.
not to sure i totally agree on him not making timeless hits being 100% a conscious decision… it could be. but since we are not in his mind, we cannot decisively say that dre can produce a song as timeless as Gin N Juice in his current state. you can absolutely speculate on that and it might even be the case, but i don’t share that belief definitively.Using that logic, hip-hop as a whole fell off since Doggystyle so maybe this is just a representation of that. Mothafuckas were going platinum left and right from the early 90s to the mid 2000s now it's not the case. It's not like artist got weak because it's still vets dropping some dope shit, it's just where we're at
again.. it’s not about me not liking the music. dre had made timeless hits that get played in clubs 30 years later. this simply doesn’t have that value. that is the exact definition of falling off. debuting at number 20 on the charts when he used to debut at the top of the charts.. once again.. is the objective definition of falling off.
Using that logic, hip-hop as a whole fell off since Doggystyle so maybe this is just a representation of that. Mothafuckas were going platinum left and right from the early 90s to the mid 2000s now it's not the case. It's not like artist got weak because it's still vets dropping some dope shit, it's just where we're at
Not denying it,I'm saying that to say Snoop not selling like Doggystyle is a reflection of that and not his shit being weak.
you’re 100% right
hip-hop as a whole has absolutely fallen off
are we denying that now? i thought that was a given.
-DOGGYSTYLE 4.5/5Wow 1.5 Doggfather!?
-THA LAST MEAL 4/5
-MISSIONARY 3.8/5
-NO LIMIT TOP DOGG 3.8/5
THE HARD WAY (WIT 213) 3.5/5
-BLUE CARPET TREATMENT 3/5
-PAID DA COST 3/5
-COOLAID 3/5
-BODR 3/5
NEVA LEFT 2.5/5
REINCARNATED 2.5/5
R&G 2/5
DOGGUMENTARY 2/5
THE LOST SESSIONS 2/5
-DA GAME IS TO BE SOLD 1.5/5
-THA DOGGFATHER 1.5/5
-EGO TRIPPIN 1.5/5
-MORE MALICE 1/5
-MALICE N WONDERLAND 1/5
-DEAD MAN WALKIN 1/5
-MAC & DEVIN 1/5
-220 0.8/5
-MAKE AMERICA CRIP AGAIN 0.8/5
-I WANNA THANK ME 0.8/5
-CUZZNZ (WIT DAZ) 0.8/1
-7 DAYS OF FUNK 0.7/5
-BUSH 0.5/5
-BIBLE OF LOVE 0.5/5
not heard:
-SMOKEFEST
-MAKE AMERICA CRIP AGAIN
-STONERS
Not denying it,I'm saying that to say Snoop not selling like Doggystyle is a reflection of that and not his shit being weak.
Wow 1.5 Doggfather!?
7 days of funk 0.7
Dead Man Walkin 1
Lost session & r&g 2
Missionary 3.8 ;D
How old are you?
Not like the 90s-mid 2000s, that's my point.
eminem still debuting at number 1
there’s tons of hip-hop still doin numbers
despite the quality bein down
Wow 1.5 Doggfather!?
7 days of funk 0.7
Dead Man Walkin 1
Lost session & r&g 2
Missionary 3.8 ;D
How old are you?
Not like the 90s-mid 2000s, that's my point.
true
but the top sellers not doin as bad as this album
Here’s my thing with that bro, I don’t think it’s even about the sound but if you linked Dre up with any other rapper in his 50s that’s looked at as more a celebrity figure rather than a rapper, the sales would still be the same and to even make the charts that point is a feat in itself. Eminem is still looked at as a rapper so his credibility is higher from a rap stand point than Snoop so he’ll obviously out perform on the charts.
What does my ratings tell you?You re a 2000's baby. Ain t nuthin wrong wit dat btw
You re a 2000's baby. Aint nuthin wrong wit dat btw
You re a 2000's baby. Ain t nuthin wrong wit dat btw
ok, doggfather was not up to expectations. But giving it 1.5/5 and 3.8 for Missionary is incomprehensible.
there were songs like:
Doggfather, Up Jump Tha Boogie, Me and My Doggz, You Thought, Groupie, sixx Minutes, OJ Wake Up, Snoops upside y'a head, Just to name a few. and every one of these songs shits on Missionary. Not even talkin bout dead Man Walkin with May I, Hits rocks, Head Doctor, Tommy Boy, Change gone comes,
Gangsta Walk... there are some Classics right here
not to sure i totally agree on him not making timeless hits being 100% a conscious decision… it could be. but since we are not in his mind, we cannot decisively say that dre can produce a song as timeless as Gin N Juice in his current state. you can absolutely speculate on that and it might even be the case, but i don’t share that belief definitively.
again.. it’s not about me not liking the music. dre has made hits that get played in clubs 30 years later. this simply doesn’t have that value. that is the exact definition of falling off. debuting at number 20 on the charts when he used to debut at the top of the charts.. once again.. is the objective definition of falling off.
eminem still debuting at number 1
there’s tons of hip-hop still doin numbers
despite the quality bein down
haha, how can you say none of these songs will be timeless hits, they've literally been out less than a month. I can tell you when Gin N Juice first came out, it wasn't getting played at clubs. It took a while to catch on. Then we had a long stretch where it wasn't being played at all, now finally rap like that is making a resurgence from a nostalgia and marketing standpoint.
"Dre has made hits that get played in the clubs 30 years later" Great, if nothing from Missionary is being played 30 years from now, you can say you were right. Like the other person said, i think it's more that the culture's tastes in music has changed and less about Dre not making songs that old school people like anymore.
Right now Outta Da Blue is getting played all over, i heard it on the Gin and Juice commercials, online in different ads, the new video game, i just saw a Netflix ad for some show or movie and that was playing in the background. No other Snoop song from his last couple albums is getting this much mainstream airplay.
if u don’t realize right now that none of them are timeless hits, then this conversation is useless LOL
nobody is playin outa da blue FOH … when nuthin but a g thang dropped, all of LA could recite that song word for word. i can poll 20 random LA heads about outa da blue and i can guarantee u a majority of them haven’t even heard it, let alone can recite it.
i duno if there’s a detachment youre facing from not being out west, but u should see the difference by now brother
I can tell you right now, having bought the Doggystyle album the day it came out, no one thought Gin and Juice would be a timeless hit and people would be playing it 30 years later. The album charted and has good streaming numbers, so SOMEONE must be listening to Out Da Blue. I'm sorry that the random twenty 18 year old gangbangers you surveyed in LA aren't listening to it. I doubt those same 18 year olds are listening to Gin and Juice or Dre Day right now either. And they ain't bumpin RBX either. So if that's your metric that decides what is 'good' music, you got a lot of failed producers and rappers out there who have 'fallen off'.
Here’s my thing with that bro, I don’t think it’s even about the sound but if you linked Dre up with any other rapper in his 50s that’s looked at as more a celebrity figure rather than a rapper, the sales would still be the same and to even make the charts that point is a feat in itself. Eminem is still looked at as a rapper so his credibility is higher from a rap stand point than Snoop so he’ll obviously out perform on the charts.
Everything below 3/5 I delete from my itunes library.
Snoop Dogg: Tha Doggfather
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Snoop Dogg: Dead Man Walking
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Snoop Dogg: Missionary
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I can tell you right now, having bought the Doggystyle album the day it came out, no one thought Gin and Juice would be a timeless hit and people would be playing it 30 years later. The album charted and has good streaming numbers, so SOMEONE must be listening to Out Da Blue. I'm sorry that the random twenty 18 year old gangbangers you surveyed in LA aren't listening to it. I doubt those same 18 year olds are listening to Gin and Juice or Dre Day right now either. And they ain't bumpin RBX either. So if that's your metric that decides what is 'good' music, you got a lot of failed producers and rappers out there who have 'fallen off'.
i dont take you serious because you dont have "change gone come" in your list. you must be out of your mind. it cant be explained with personal music taste. you are not someone to take serious.
Eminem's white and doesn't count... he blew up majorly in the 90's and can still generate buzz in White America and international fans because of that fact alone.Interscope also put a marketing plan for Em's album and it worked (but not to take anything from Em, it's a dope album with a good concept) but you can obviously see they had a plan and executed and got good results. Can't say Interscope did the same for Marsha or Snoop which is puzzling.
Snoop Dogg - Change Gonna Come
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3YlLUsss2A
Well, what can I say... the track ain't terrible, the beat works, but not a fan of the singing.
Doggfather was for many the first disappointment back then from Death Row after Hits like Chronic, Doggystyle, Dogg Food, All Eyez on me, Doggfather was boring. Last man standing is more of a compilation album where 98 came out of Suge Knight, Snoop didn't want it
ok go listen to Another part of me, sticcy situation or last dance with maryjane... and Doggfather is bad, dead man walking too... 😅😅 shits funny.Lmao
Lmaono it's not better. and it's funny but the only songs I like are outta da blue, gorgeous and the last minute of sticcy situation. The first 2 pieces that I mentioned are generally the ones that people who appreciate the CD don't like. Change gone comes is better than any missionary and I'm not talking about may i, head doctor, gangsta walk..... but apparently sting, jelly roll, coco sarai it's better than daz, kurupt, jewell, michel le, nanci fletcher 🤣 and once again I repeat if the album sucks, it's Dr. Dre's fault, not Snoop. apparently you say that the album was made for the world and not just for california and g-funk fans... but who was doggystyle made for? it didn't work all over the world??? R&G and Paid tha Coast didn't work all over the world? whats my name, ain t no fun, beautiful, lets get blown, ... What missionary sound is playing on the radios in the USA? in any case here in France none! even if we are no longer at the same time, Eminem was still on repeat during the release of Death Of Slim Shady...
Ironically Sticcy Situation is better than Change Gonna Come, so you kinda failed with what you were trying to achieve with that post lol. You could've at least picked some undeniably bad songs, like the Outta Da Blue or Gunz & Smoke to make your point clearer.
no it's not better. and it's funny but the only songs I like are outta da blue, gorgeous and the last minute of sticcy situation. The first 2 pieces that I mentioned are generally the ones that people who appreciate the CD don't like. Change gone comes is better than any missionary and I'm not talking about may i, head doctor, gangsta walk..... but apparently sting, jelly roll, coco sarai it's better than daz, kurupt, jewell, michel le, nanci fletcher 🤣 and once again I repeat if the album sucks, it's Dr. Dre's fault, not Snoop. apparently you say that the album was made for the world and not just for california and g-funk fans... but who was doggystyle made for? it didn't work all over the world??? R&G and Paid tha Coast didn't work all over the world? whats my name, ain t no fun, beautiful, lets get blown, ... What missionary sound is playing on the radios in the USA? in any case here in France none! even if we are no longer at the same time, Eminem was still on repeat during the release of Death Of Slim Shady...Except it doesn't suck. It's not great but it's far from bad (pretty similar to Doggfather in that regard). But yeah, it's kinda funny how you have 2 of the worst songs from the album as your favorites ???
ok go listen to
Another part of me, sticcy situation or last dance with maryjane... and Doggfather is bad, dead man walking too... 😅😅 shits funny.
Snoop Dogg: Tha Doggfather
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this is some twilight zone shit
seems like whatever snoop or dre drops as solo artists, they cant do it like recent popular new generation rappers does.
they are too old to be "mainstream" again and be accepted by new generation or previous generation.
i guess people in aftermath/deathrow/interscope know that too, so they didnt promote the album enough.
that explains why dr. dre never released detox.
he is too old and out dated as a solo artist to release something can fuck with chronic and 2001.
detox not dropping in 2010/11 had nothing to do with dre being too old for the new generation lmfao.
Sticcy Situation (Feat. K.A.A.N. & Cocoa Sarai)
I'm currently doing a remix, the same beat with a Nate Dogg feat
Sticcy Situation (Feat. K.A.A.N. & Cocoa Sarai)Curious to heard it
I'm currently doing a remix, the same beat with a Nate Dogg feat
Snoop Dogg on His New Album, and His 'Unbreakable' Friendship With Martha Stewart, and His Massive 2024
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From rocking Skechers at the Olympics to the release of Missionary, the rapper had a very big year. And 2025 is poised to be even bigger.
Few folks had as big—and as good—of a 2024 as Snoop Dogg. From releasing a movie at the top of the year to stealing the show at the Paris Olympics, the 53-year-old rapper has been busy as hell. And he’s not slowing down. This month, he released his latest album, Missionary, which saw him back in the studio with mentor and producer Dr. Dre. The first album the duo has worked on together since 1995’s Doggystyle, it’s living proof that even three decades after his breakout, Snoop hasn’t lost a step. His flow is as effortlessly energetic as ever as he raps alongside a slew of collaborators like Method Man, Eminem, 50 Cent, Jhené Aiko, and more.
Next up in 2025? A list of projects as long as his achievements this year. So I hopped on a video call with him to talk about his ongoing partnership with Skechers, his “unbreakable” friendship with Martha Stewart, and what we can look out for—including a biopic and a Death Row documentary—in the not-too-distant future.
How did you decide to start working with Skechers, and how is the partnership going?
Actually Martha Stewart brought this shoe deal to me. She was telling me for months, “You need to get with Skechers. They’re good people. They got my shoe brand.” What we do is a lot of times we bring things to each other that we feel that can get us together. So she brought that partnership. And once I met with the owner, Robert, he was a cool guy that really understood what I wanted to do with my shoe as far as have multiple shoes, different styles. Be able to create sports shoes, performance shoes, work shoes, shoes for girls, for kids—just an everyday lifestyle shoe. And he understood that.
What was the collaborative process like?
They got a great team of creators and innovators and what we do is we work together as far as knowing what is my style, what's my lane, what feels good to me, and then they take it and they create it in the shoe form and then put color schemes and different designs and patterns around it. I think they're great at what they do and I'm great at what I do, that's what makes it such a great partnership.
I was actually just listening to the new album and speaking of partnerships, it's awesome to hear you and Dre putting a record out again.
Hey man, it feels real good to be back with your mentor slash producer who understands you and knows how to produce you better than anybody. So I'm blessed to be back in the position with it.
How are you feeling about the reception? It seems like a lot of people are feeling just as happy as I am about it.
Yeah. A lot of people not used to hearing such a body of work because music has been so microwaved and so watered down lately that the reception has been amazing. But I think it's going to take a while for people to actually get it who don't understand it. Those who get it, already got it.
Do you have a favorite track on the album?
"Now or Never."
It was like 30 years between this and Doggystyle. Did the process feel drastically different, or is it just one of those things like riding a bike when you got back in the studio with Dre?
It was definitely a different process, but the trust was still there and the fun and all of the shit that we do to make this shit feel like it feels, all that was still there.
You had a gigantic 2024. Looking back on it now, how are you feeling about how it went?
I think it was amazing. I think I did everything I said I wanted to do and then some. Just put a whole new spin on me, my business, my life, everything in general just gave people a chance to really get inside the world of Snoop Dogg as opposed to snippets. I gave an actual a deep dive into the world of Snoop Dogg, the wide world of Snoop Dogg.
Are there any highlights that jump to mind?
My movie Underdoggs, when it came out at the top of the year—the effect it had on kids, the effect it had on parents coaching football, families… It was received very well and it was thought that it was going to be not received well because it was profanity and things that they didn't think that kids should be doing, but this is the world we live in and I just love the way that that project kicked off the year.
The Olympics must've been an interesting, fun time. I'm imagining; I've never gone.
No, me neither. That was the first time experience for me. So it was a mixed emotions of having fun and having too much fun, just being the biggest kid there.
It seemed like all eyes were on Snoop the entire Olympics. How'd you feel about that?
See, that's the part that I didn't know because I was in Paris, hours ahead of y'all, probably filming the next episode or the next segment. So I had no time to enjoy the highlights and see what was going on back in America because I had to be ahead of the clock over here in Paris.
When you got back, was it just kind of onto the next thing?
When I got back, it was time for me to get ready for The Voice. I always do the job that I have to do and I have to always look ahead and think about what's next, what's the next game I got to play, what's the next big moves I'm making.
You're not returning for Season 27, but I think you said that this is the sort of thing that you might potentially come back to in the future.
Yeah, I had a great time over there at The Voice, especially if they bring Bublé back. Bublé: Come back, I'll come back.
Someone's got to convince Bublé.
Yeah. Michael Bublé loved it just as much as I did. We was the rookies on the show, and our brotherhood got a little stronger and I just feel like if I'm going to do it again I would love to do it with him.
You mentioned that Martha earlier. Have you been in touch a lot over the course of this year?
Oh yeah. Always. Went to her 100th book release, she came to a couple of things that I had this year. And then her documentary that came out, I was there for the premiere for that. Or friendship, it's unbreakable.
What did she think of the documentary?
I loved it. I don't know what she thought of it.
I heard that she had some feelings about the second half.
Probably. When it's your life personally, it's a certain way you feel about perception and the way people perceive you. You know what I'm saying? But she's a beautiful spirit, a hell of a soul, a great lady. I'm honored to know her.
What do you have queued up for next year? Anything you can share with me?
Biopic. Death Row documentary. Animated movie called Doggy Dog House, which is based on my Doggystyle album. Doggyland, my animated kids show. Taking it to new horizons and just continuing to do the things I do.
No rest for the weary.
No way. We on it like we want it, doggone it.
One thing that I always try to do is ask if there's anything that I missed that you're excited to talk about.
I'm excited to be the Esquire Man of the Year, I'm thinking that's what this interview was about.
Oh yeah, of course.
Okay, cool. Good then. I think I did enough to meet the requirements for 2024 Esquire Man of the Year.
I'd be hard-pressed to think of someone who's had a busier and more eventful year than you have.
And we're not done.
Do you have anything major planned that’ll slide it in right under the wire, before January 1 hits?
Yeah, we may have a video or some drop—some Christmas song or something connected to Missionary. We just dropped the movie The Missionary and the Complex interview showing the behind the scenes with me and Dre creating the album. Missionary is the mission right now, to keep that rolling. Then we did the Gin and Juice commercial with Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis, which was the real big campaign to push Still G.I.N., which is our new brand of gin that we just released.
Where's that available?
Everywhere.
So I’ve got to get down to the liquor store like now?
Yes, sir. Right now. Not now, but right now.
Alright. Well, listen, I appreciate you taking the time to chat with me.
Appreciate you. Happy holidays.
You, too. And happy New Year. Here's to a 2025 that's as big as 2024 was for you.
I'll smoke to that.
On another note, that 213 album is aging nicely!
Someone in this thread said something about how that album is a near classic. I haven't listened to it in years but I do remember really loving the joint Run On Up. So I wanted to take a listen to the album. I didn't make it through the whole thing. I think it is a very disappointing album.
213 was and still is a classic.
neva was, neva will.For me it is without a doubt. Still bumps it nowadays
strong as phuck, and a proper nate dogg release (maybe his only one), but far from classic.
Et un autre du 93 aussi :-)
They can still produce a nice body of work. They just didn't use the right formula for Missionary, in 2024, nobody cares about what Snoop has to say, but people will vibe to his stuff, groovy shit. He is all about vibes!
213 was and still is a classic.
Joysticc, another sommer, MLK, absolutely, keep it gangsta, twist yo body,... all classics songs
You listed 6 songs. There are 19 tracks on the album. You consider an album classic when 6/19 are classic?
That is crazy to me.
for u for him, for me...
u guys use the term classic with no reason and so often...
Seems like they gave up on it
Seems like they gave up on it
The album didn't get a solid video for a song.
But then again, they did the same thing with Compton.
At least this got a movie.
Well I finally got the CD this week and have given it a couple of plays in the car, but need to also give it a few spins in my system.
On first impressions, I like it and think it will stay in my rotation for quite some time. Like others have said, a lot of the tracks have quite a short run time giving the impression that the album could have been fleshed out more. Snoop sounds great on here and Dre's mixing is on point as usual even if it is a bit too bright and the high ends can be a bit piercing.
'Outta Da Blue' is actually one of my favourites on here at the moment, I know a lot of people on here hate it with a passion but I find myself going to that track the most at the moment. 'Skyscrapers' is a particular highlight of mine - I love the beat and the way Snoop comes in on that one. I'm liking the beat switch-ups on a few of the tracks too even though it's not particularly original any more.
Is the album a classic? No. Does it contain a stone-cold classic Snoop + Dre track that people will quote and go back to in many years time? Probably not, but not every album has to be, or can be, a classic for it still to be decent and for you to enjoy listening to it.
A couple of features from the OG Death Row roster could have elevated the album somewhat, as well as fleshing out a few of the tracks to make them a bit longer, and having Snoop rap a little slower and lower his vocal tone a bit. But overall, I'm down with it and can imagine myself listening to the album for some time to come.
Yes but from what I understand, the mix and mastering doesn’t transfer over very well on the DSPs.
I’ll just download ‘Thank You’ instead.
Seems like they gave up on it
Hanging with the legendary Snoop Dogg, who is set to perform at President Trump's inauguration.
President Trump is unifying the country and will bring us into the GOLDEN AGE!
Welcome to MAGA, Snoop!
Eazy-E's status as a controversial figure took an unusual turn when he accepted an invitation to a lunch benefitting the Republican Senatorial Inner Circle hosted by President George Bush in March of 1991, a little less than a year after conservatives had deemed his music obscene in Florida. Since his presence among the right-wing politicians struck the media as somewhat absurd, the event was reported across the country over the next 24 hours.
Not surprisingly, Eazy-E found it necessary to explain in a brief television interview that his invitation was the result of a $2,500 campaign contribution, which he had made to a Republican politician who stood against censorship. Although this made the point that freedom of speech debates cut through party lines, the rapper's appearance among the Republican powers still left many of his fans ill at ease, since Bush's economic policies generally were not seen to be promoting the welfare of inner-city African-Americans. When Eazy-E spoke with Light about the incident that year, he denied any allegiance to the G.O.P. "How the f-- can I be a Republican when I got a song called 'F-- tha Police'?" he asked. "I ain't shit--ain't a Republican or Democrat. I didn't even vote. My vote ain't going to help! I don't give a f-- who's the president."
Snoop Dogg wows Trump inauguration Crypto Ball with Bob Marley song
Rapper sang 'everything’s gonna be alright' after having a change of heart about Trump
Rapper Snoop Dogg wows the crowd at a pro-Trump, pre-inauguration event.
Rapper Snoop Dogg is showing his support for President-elect Trump.
The "Gin and Juice" rapper took the stage at the Crypto Ball, a pre-iauguration event, and got the crowd on its feet dancing to several hit songs.
From Journey’s "Don’t Stop Believin’" to Bob Marley’s "Three Little Birds (Don’t Worry About a Thing)," Snoop hyped up Trump supporters as the DJ and sent a positive yet inspirational message through the music. He also performed a few of his own hits, including, "Drop It Like It’s Hot."
SNOOP DOGG PRAISES DONALD TRUMP: 'NOTHING BUT LOVE AND RESPECT'
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Snoop Dogg performed "Everything’s Gonna Be Alright" by Bob Marley at the pre-inauguration event.
Videos of the prolific rapper surfaced on social media of a care-free Snoop in Washington, D.C., wearing a black jacket with gold buttons and a bowtie. He completed his look with matching gold-rimmed sunglasses.
Other high-profiled guests included rapper Rick Ross and UFC star Colby Covington, who both posted about hanging with Snoop.
"Nuthin' but a ‘G’ Thang," Covington shared on X.
Fellow rapper Rick Ross was also at the Crypto Ball and shared video with Snoop Dogg. (Snoop Dogg/Rick Ross/Instagram)
The "Young, Wild and Free" rapper performed after he recently changed his tune about President-elect Trump.
Years after Snoop appeared on "The Apprentice" in 2007, he called Trump a clown and mocked him in a music video. In his video for his song "Lavender" in 2017, Snoop depicted Trump as a clown and shot the president in the head.
Snoop Dogg in a leopard print sweater tilts his head for a picture split Donald Trump clasps his hands together on stage in a blue striped tie
Snoop Dogg praised Donald Trump in 2024 after criticizing the President-elect for years.
Snoop also delivered laughs during a Trump roast in 2011.
In 2020, during an appearance on Big Boy's radio show, Snoop argued Trump shouldn’t be in office.
"I ain't never voted a day in my life, but this year I think I'm going to get out and vote because I can't stand to see this punk in office one more year," the rapper said on "Big Boy’s Neighborhood on Real 92.3."
The 53-year-old rapper explained he didn’t believe he was allowed to vote at the time due to his criminal record. Snoop was convicted of a felony in 1990 and 2007.
XXL Magazine shared a video clip on social media of the rapper ripping Trump and his followers, saying "Donald Trump is a f---ing weirdo. If you voted for him, I don't have no problem with that. But if you're still with him, f--- you."
Snoop Dogg in a yellow shirt and white jacket speaks with Donald Trump on a carpet
Historically critical of Donald Trump and his supporters, rapper Snoop Dogg says he now has "nothing but love and respect" for the president-elect.
However, after a long history of condemning the President-elect and his supporters, Snoop praised Trump in January 2024.
"Donald Trump? … He ain’t done nothing wrong to me. He has done only great things for me. He pardoned Michael Harris," Snoop told The Sunday Times.
"So, I have nothing but love and respect for Donald Trump."
Snoop Dogg previously explained he thought he couldn't vote due to his criminal record. (Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)
Michael "Harry-O" Harris, an associate of Death Row Records co-founder Suge Knight and the founder of the label's parent company, Godfather Entertainment, was pardoned in 2021 as one of Trump's final decisions before leaving office. Snoop Dogg was famously signed by the label only to leave later in his career. Snoop acquired Death Row Records in 2022.
Harris was imprisoned on charges of conspiracy and attempted murder for over three decades. Snoop Dogg praised Trump at the time for his commutation of Harris.
President-elect Trump will be sworn in as the 47th president of the United States Monday, Jan. 20.
Snoop Dogg responds to backlash over his performance at Trump’s 'Crypto Ball'
Fans accuse Snoop of hypocrisy over his performance, with one saying, “2pac always was right about snoop dogg."
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Snoop Dogg is not letting critics faze him after his performance at Donald Trump's controversial "Crypto Ball" in Washington, D.C., on Friday.
The iconic rapper, who headlined the pro-Trump event, took to Instagram to address fans who were upset by his decision to perform at the pre-inauguration gathering, which celebrated Trump's push for cryptocurrency integration into the U.S. financial system.
The event, held just days before Trump's official swearing-in as president, drew a mix of celebrities, politicians, and crypto enthusiasts.
House Speaker Mike Johnson and other prominent figures were in attendance as Snoop Dogg took the stage alongside fellow performers Rick Ross, Soulja Boy, and Nelly.
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Despite his past opposition to the Republican figurehead, including his 2017 music video mocking a Trump-like clown character, social media critics were quick to call out the rapper for what they perceived as hypocrisy.
One user blasted, “2pac always was right about snoop dogg, he always playing both sides for a check and some clout smh.”
Another said, “I have deleted all Snoop Dogg songs from my playlists... I will not listen to his music after i found out that he will be there to perform for the traitors on Monday.”
However, Snoop seemed unbothered by the backlash, quickly responding to the criticism. Hours after the event, he reposted a video from fellow performer Rick Ross on Instagram with the caption: “Got a real Crip up in the Crypto Ball, bang bang.”
In the clip, the rapper flashed a peace sign and grinned while wearing sunglasses, exuding confidence and clearly showing he was unfazed by the negative comments.
Fans continued to voice their discontent on social media, with one user remarking, “Even Snoop Dogg bent knee to Donald Trump. Never thought I’d see that. His crip walks will never be the same.”
While many fans were vocal in their disappointment, not everyone was critical. Conservative internet personality Bo Loudin was quick to show support for Snoop, posting a photo of the rapper wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat, captioning it, “President Trump is unifying the country and will bring us into the GOLDEN AGE! Welcome to MAGA, Snoop!”
Snoop's decision to perform at the "Crypto Ball" fits into a broader trend of public figures shifting their stance on the incoming president.
The night was filled with red "Make Bitcoin Great Again" hats, and Snoop performed some of his greatest hits while DJing the event. Despite the event's exclusive nature, with ticket prices ranging from $2,500 to $5,000, the atmosphere was celebratory, filled with crypto enthusiasts eager to network with influential figures shaping U.S. cryptocurrency policy.
Snoop Dogg Sells Out to Trump After Latest Album, “Missionary,” Flops Miserably Since Release
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People are very curious why Snoop Dogg has sold out to Donald Trump.
The reason is simple: money.
Snoop’s latest album, “Missionary,” has been a total financial disaster. Released on December 13, 2024, “Missionary” has sold a total of 76,531 copies including streaming.
Actual downloads and physical sales: 37,207.
In a celebrity the size of Snoop Dogg, that equals nothing in revenue. The album likely lost a lot of money. It was never played on the radio and has disappeared entirely.
Most of Snoop’s relevance at this point comes from his association with home goods queen Martha Stewart. He was also a hit on the summer Olympics. But musically — if you can call it music — he’s nowhere.
Ditto for Nelly, who hasn’t had a real hit in 20 years. In 2016 it was reported that he owed the IRS $2.4 million.
And rapper Rick Ross? His Wikipedia page is like a rap sheet — the police kind. He hasn’t had a hit in many moons.
Trump is really good at finding people who are desperate, heydays long over, and roping them in. Fans of Gavin DeGraw are upset that he’s playing for Trump this weekend. But DeGraw’s big hits came over 20 years ago. He’s lucky anyone wants him. He’s also always been a right wing conservative good ol’ boy from upstate New York, so none of this is surprising.
The number of people — from billionaire oligarchs to bottom feeders — whom Trump has co-opted is astonishing. Everyone has a price, and we’re finding out what it is. And who knows? Maybe Trump thinks he can get to Martha through Snoop. I wouldn’t bet on it.
10 Best Snoop Dogg Songs of All Time
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List of the Top 10 Best Snoop Dogg Songs of All Time
January 18, 2025
When it comes to hip-hop royalty, few names shine as brightly as Snoop Dogg. With a career spanning over three decades, Snoop has not only defined the West Coast rap scene but has also transcended genres, becoming a cultural icon. From his smooth, laid-back flow to his infectious charisma, Snoop Dogg has delivered anthems that resonate with fans across generations.
In this article, we dive into the top 10 most popular Snoop Dogg songs of all time, showcasing the tracks that have solidified his legacy in the music industry. Whether you’re a die-hard fan or a casual listener, these songs encapsulate the essence of Snoop’s unique style—blending funk, soul, and hip-hop into a sound that is unmistakably his own.
Prepare to relive classic hits that made waves on the charts, as well as some hidden gems that showcase his lyrical prowess and artistic versatility. From catchy hooks to unforgettable verses, these tracks not only highlight Snoop’s evolution as an artist but also reflect the cultural zeitgeist of their times. Join us as we celebrate the magic of Snoop Dogg and the songs that have defined a generation!
1. “Gin and Juice” (1994)
2. “Drop It Like It’s Hot” (2004)
3. “Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang” (1992)
4. “Who Am I? (What’s My Name?)” (1993)
5. “Beautiful” (2003)
6. “Still D.R.E.” (1999)
7. “Young, Wild & Free” (2011)
8. “Sensual Seduction” (2007)
9. “Vato” (2006)
10. “Doggy Dogg World” (1996)
1. “Gin and Juice” (1994)
Released as part of Snoop Dogg’s groundbreaking debut album, Doggystyle, “Gin and Juice” quickly became one of the most iconic tracks in hip-hop history. The song perfectly encapsulates the West Coast lifestyle, with its laid-back, smooth beat, and carefree, party-centric lyrics. Snoop Dogg paints a picture of good times filled with drinking, cruising, and hanging out with friends. The track’s carefree attitude made it an instant anthem, especially for those who resonated with the vibe of enjoying life’s simple pleasures without worries or complications. The infectious hook, “With so much drama in the L-B-C, it’s kinda hard bein’ Snoop D-O-double-G,” immediately grabs the listener’s attention, setting the stage for a narrative that’s all about letting loose. Beyond its catchy beat and memorable lines, “Gin and Juice” was a cultural statement that introduced the world to Snoop’s smooth flow and West Coast swagger. The track also served as a perfect showcase for Snoop’s unique vocal style, combining humor with street-smart sensibility. This anthem helped solidify Snoop as not just a rapper, but as a symbol of the West Coast hip-hop scene and its relaxed, fun-loving culture. For many fans, the song became a representation of a carefree, party-filled lifestyle. With its playful energy and timeless appeal, “Gin and Juice” remains one of the most beloved tracks in hip-hop and continues to define the West Coast sound. It’s a classic that continues to echo through the years, reminding listeners of the joy in kicking back and enjoying the moment, just as Snoop Dogg intended when it was first released.
2. “Drop It Like It’s Hot” (2004)
Released in 2004, “Drop It Like It’s Hot” marked a transformative moment in Snoop Dogg’s career. This track was not only a reinvention of his sound but also a masterclass in minimalism, blending hypnotic beats with a sparse, yet incredibly effective, production. The song features a signature, slowed-down rhythm that matches the smoothness of Snoop’s flow, creating a laid-back yet commanding presence. The track’s stripped-back beat, combined with a catchy, repetitive hook, made it an instant club anthem. Snoop’s delivery is as confident and smooth as ever, but the song’s production pushes him into new territory, showcasing his adaptability as an artist. “Drop it like it’s hot” became more than just a catchy phrase—it became part of the cultural lexicon, used widely in pop culture as a way to describe anything done with coolness and flair. Snoop’s lyrical content, while simple, reflects a level of sophistication and self-assuredness that comes with his position in the hip-hop world. The addition of Pharrell Williams’ contributions to the track, both in production and the memorable hook, made it even more impactful, giving the song a smooth, almost irresistible quality that kept listeners coming back. “Drop It Like It’s Hot” became a massive commercial success, charting at the top of the Billboard Hot 100 and solidifying Snoop Dogg as an innovator in hip-hop. The song’s minimalism, mixed with its swagger, has made it timeless, with its iconic beat still rocking parties and clubs today. It’s a song that encapsulates Snoop’s ability to stay relevant while simultaneously pushing the boundaries of his sound.
3. “Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang” (1992)
Released in 1992, “Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang” is a defining track in the history of hip-hop. This collaboration between Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg is often hailed as one of the quintessential songs of the G-funk era, a genre that dominated the West Coast sound in the early ’90s. The song’s smooth melodies, infectious bassline, and laid-back rhythm encapsulate the relaxed, yet hard-hitting essence of the G-funk movement. Snoop’s verses, delivered with his signature cool and effortless style, perfectly complement Dre’s masterful production, creating a track that feels both timeless and fresh. The lyrics of “Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang” highlight the authenticity and camaraderie between Dre and Snoop, as well as their strong roots in the streets. This track is a celebration of their rise to fame, but it’s also a nod to their loyalty to their origins. The track’s combination of smooth, melodic beats and West Coast slang created a vibe that was entirely new for hip-hop, making it immediately influential. The track’s importance can’t be overstated—“Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang” helped to cement Snoop Dogg as a major force in hip-hop while simultaneously giving Dr. Dre the platform to shine as one of the genre’s top producers. The song’s impact extends beyond its original release, continuing to influence hip-hop artists and fans alike. It’s a track that captures the essence of the ‘90s West Coast rap scene, and its laid-back vibe and iconic beat have ensured it remains a favorite for generations of listeners. “Nuthin’ but a ‘G’ Thang” is, without a doubt, one of hip-hop’s most essential tracks.
4. “Who Am I? (What’s My Name?)” (1993)
Released in 1993, “Who Am I? (What’s My Name?)” served as the perfect introduction to Snoop Dogg’s larger-than-life persona. As the lead single from his debut album Doggystyle, the track’s infectious beat and catchy hook made an immediate impact on the hip-hop scene. Snoop’s smooth flow and confident delivery helped establish him as a star, with “Who Am I?” becoming the anthem for a new generation of rap fans. The song is filled with swagger, showcasing Snoop’s effortless charm and charisma, which would become trademarks of his career. His playful and catchy refrain of “Who am I? Snoop Doggy Dogg!” quickly became iconic, cementing his place as one of hip-hop’s most memorable figures. The song is a declaration of self-identity, with Snoop confidently stating his name and position in the rap game. It’s a track about asserting oneself, unapologetically, and embracing who you are. Snoop’s unique vocal delivery, blending humor with confidence, shines through on every line, making it clear that he wasn’t just another rapper—he was an undeniable force in the industry. “Who Am I?” also marks a moment of musical innovation, with its funky, bass-heavy production and the seamless blend of G-funk influences. The track was an instant classic, setting the tone for Snoop’s successful career and helping solidify the West Coast sound as a dominant force in hip-hop. Even years later, “Who Am I?” remains one of Snoop’s signature songs, continuing to be celebrated as the track that introduced the world to the one and only Snoop Dogg.
5. “Beautiful” (2003)
Released in 2003, “Beautiful” showcased a different side of Snoop Dogg, moving away from his usual hard-hitting, street-focused themes and embracing a more romantic, laid-back vibe. The track is a smooth blend of hip-hop, pop, and R&B, making it a crossover hit that appealed to a broader audience. Featuring guest vocals from Pharrell Williams, the song’s mellow production and soothing melodies set the tone for a relaxed, feel-good anthem. The lyrics of “Beautiful” express Snoop’s appreciation for beauty in all its forms, from the physical to the emotional, while still staying true to his cool, charismatic persona. The chorus, with its catchy lines, “I’m so beautiful, I’m so beautiful,” creates a sing-along quality that resonates with fans from all walks of life. Snoop’s smooth delivery complements Pharrell’s infectious hook, creating a seamless collaboration that stands out in Snoop’s diverse catalog. The song’s production is rich with lush, soulful melodies, and its overall vibe is one of warmth and positivity. “Beautiful” is a departure from Snoop’s usual content, showing his versatility as an artist capable of making heartfelt, romantic tracks as easily as he can craft party anthems. The song became a favorite for its uplifting message and smooth, feel-good atmosphere. It proved that Snoop wasn’t just a gangster rap icon but also an artist who could create music with universal appeal. “Beautiful” remains one of Snoop’s most beloved songs, illustrating his ability to blend different musical genres while staying true to his unique style. It’s a testament to his growth as an artist and his ability to connect with fans on a deeper level.
6. “Still D.R.E.” (1999)
“Still D.R.E.” is a cornerstone track in the West Coast rap scene and a defining moment in the careers of both Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg. Released in 1999 as part of Dre’s 2001 album, this track marked his return to the rap game after a lengthy hiatus. The iconic piano riff that opens the song immediately sets the tone for a track that’s both classic and timeless. With Snoop Dogg delivering the hook, “Still Snoop Dogg and D.R.E.,” the song served as a declaration of the duo’s enduring legacy in hip-hop. The lyrics reflect Dre’s resilience in the face of changes in the music industry, as well as his unwavering commitment to his craft. The catchy hook, combined with Dre’s smooth delivery and Snoop’s signature flow, made “Still D.R.E.” an anthem for hip-hop fans worldwide. It’s a celebration of the West Coast sound that had dominated the genre, and it stands as a testament to the influence of Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg in shaping the direction of hip-hop in the late ‘90s. The track’s production is impeccable, blending Dre’s signature G-funk sound with modern elements, creating a perfect balance that appeals to both old-school and newer hip-hop fans. “Still D.R.E.” became an instant classic, earning critical acclaim and solidifying Dre’s place as one of the most influential producers in hip-hop history. For Snoop, the song reaffirmed his place as one of rap’s greatest voices. With its unmistakable beat and iconic verses, “Still D.R.E.” remains a defining moment in hip-hop and an essential part of the genre’s history.
7. “Young, Wild & Free” (2011)
“Young, Wild & Free” was a collaboration between Snoop Dogg and Wiz Khalifa, and it quickly became the anthem for a generation of free-spirited, carefree individuals. Released in 2011, the track celebrates living life to the fullest and embracing the joy of being young. With its laid-back production and catchy chorus, “Young, Wild & Free” became an instant hit, capturing the essence of fun, freedom, and living in the moment. Snoop and Wiz’s chemistry on the track is undeniable, with their relaxed flows and effortless delivery creating a vibe that resonates with anyone who’s ever wanted to just let loose and have fun. The song’s infectious melody, combined with its lighthearted lyrics, makes it the perfect party anthem. Snoop’s verses reflect his ability to remain true to himself while embracing the carefree spirit of the song, while Wiz Khalifa’s contribution complements the overall vibe with his signature laid-back style. “Young, Wild & Free” was not just a catchy hit—it also became a cultural moment, with the phrase itself becoming a popular slogan for anyone embracing the free-spirited, rebellious lifestyle. The song’s message of living life without restrictions resonated strongly with fans, making it a go-to track for parties, road trips, and just about any moment when people want to let their hair down. It’s a reminder that life is short, and sometimes the best thing to do is embrace the carefree, spontaneous moments that make youth so special. “Young, Wild & Free” remains a classic anthem for those who understand the importance of living in the moment.
8. “Sensual Seduction” (2007)
Sensual Seduction was a departure from Snoop Dogg’s usual style, showcasing his ability to experiment and evolve as an artist. Released in 2007, the track was a blend of hip-hop, disco, and R&B, creating a smooth, seductive vibe that was unlike anything Snoop had done before. The song’s production, featuring a funky, disco-inspired beat, paired with Snoop’s laid-back vocal delivery, created an atmosphere of mystery and allure. With the use of Auto-Tune to smooth out his voice, Snoop stepped into a more futuristic realm, showing that he could adapt to the trends of the time while still staying true to his roots. Lyrically, “Sensual Seduction” is playful and flirtatious, with Snoop adopting a more romantic tone, which was a refreshing change from his usual tough-guy persona. The song’s catchy chorus and smooth production made it a favorite among fans, with its breezy, seductive vibe making it perfect for late-night drives or intimate settings. It was a bold move for Snoop, who had always been known for his street-centric themes, but “Sensual Seduction” proved that he could excel in any musical genre he chose. The track was a commercial success, earning Snoop his first Grammy nomination for Best Rap Song. Its success also led to a remix with several other prominent artists, further cementing its place in the mainstream. With its undeniable charm, “Sensual Seduction” remains one of Snoop Dogg’s most innovative tracks, showcasing his versatility as an artist and his ability to evolve with the times.
9. “Vato” (2006)
Snoop Dogg’s “Vato” is a powerful song that blends hip-hop with Latin influences, creating a track that crosses cultural boundaries and addresses social issues. Released in 2006, the song features a collaboration with Latin rapper B-Real, and it’s a unique fusion of hip-hop and Latin rhythms. The song tells the story of the struggles and triumphs of the Latino community, focusing on themes of unity, pride, and resilience. With its smooth beat and catchy hook, “Vato” is both a celebration of Latin culture and a powerful statement about the struggles faced by marginalized communities. Snoop’s thoughtful lyrics add depth to the track, making it more than just a party anthem. His delivery is both confident and compassionate, and it’s clear that he is using his platform to speak on important issues. The collaboration with B-Real adds another layer to the song, as the two artists bring their unique perspectives to the track. The Latin influence is evident in the song’s production, which blends traditional Latin rhythms with modern hip-hop beats, creating a fusion that feels fresh and innovative. “Vato” was well-received by fans, and it became a standout track on Snoop’s album The Blue Carpet Treatment. The song was also a testament to Snoop’s versatility as an artist, showing that he was not just a hip-hop icon but also someone who could appreciate and respect different cultures and musical styles. “Vato” remains a powerful and important song in Snoop’s catalog, highlighting his ability to address serious topics while still making music that’s accessible and enjoyable.
10. “Doggy Dogg World” (1996)
Released in 1996, “Doggy Dogg World” is a standout track from Snoop Dogg’s Doggystyle album, showcasing the essence of the West Coast hip-hop sound. The song features a lush, funky beat that’s unmistakably G-funk, and it also features guest appearances from both Tha Dogg Pound and The Dramatics. The track captures the celebratory yet reflective nature of Snoop’s rise to fame, with its infectious groove and catchy hook. “Doggy Dogg World” is a reflection on life in the spotlight, with Snoop acknowledging both the rewards and the challenges of his newfound fame. The track’s relaxed vibe and smooth delivery make it a fan favorite, showcasing Snoop’s laid-back charisma and his ability to tell stories through music. The lyrics reflect the ups and downs of being in the public eye, from the luxuries of success to the pressures and obstacles that come with it. The presence of The Dramatics, providing soulful vocals on the chorus, adds a layer of depth and richness to the track, making it feel even more nostalgic and timeless. “Doggy Dogg World” is both a celebration of Snoop’s success and a reminder of the complex realities of life in the limelight. The song remains a beloved classic in Snoop’s catalog, with its infectious beat and memorable verses ensuring that it continues to resonate with fans to this day. It’s a track that captures the essence of the West Coast rap scene and solidified Snoop Dogg as one of hip-hop’s greatest and most enduring artists.
An Oral History Of The Making of Snoop & Dre’s “Missionary”
The very real and very true story of the making of Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre's follow-up to "Doggystyle."
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Snoop Dogg first revealed the existence of Missionary on Stephen A. Smith’s podcast in 2022. He said (and I’m paraphrasing) that he and Dre had cemented their legacies many times over: Snoop’s contributions to the metaverse, Snoop’s VH1 cooking show with Martha Stewart, Dre’s decade-long tease of Detox that culminated in a Dr. Pepper commercial, Dre’s numerous late-era collaborations with Skylar Grey, et cetera. But even so, they had never given their seminal work a proper follow-up, so Snoop announced that they would finally retread sacred ground. They were making a sequel to Doggystyle. I immediately recognized the importance of this moment and I got to work. I forged some press credentials (apologies to Elliott Wilson) and I set about interviewing the authors of Missionary. What follows is the making of the album from the people who were there.
Snoop Dogg: Me and Dre have gotten our flowers, established our empires. We didn’t owe people nothing, we didn’t have nothing to prove. But we were kicking it one day, and we had so many ideas about Fortnite soundtracks that we knew it was finally time to write our next chapter. Missionary was a natural extension, a perfect expression of who we are and what we do – just like “Gin & Juice By Dre and Snoop,” the first ready to drink product from our new premium spirits and NFT company.
Jimmy Iovine: When I heard they were thinking about doing another one, I got Dre on the phone immediately and pressed him on it. I told Dre, “You and Snoop – You guys made your New Hope but you never made your Rise of Skywalker. You guys made your Ready to Die, but you never made your Duets: The Final Chapter, your fans need- no, they deserve this branded and highly streamable content adventure.”
Dr. Dre: Look, Apple stock is at $250 and I came in at $25. You do the math. I made more money off the Kim Kardashian Beats than I did off my entire pre-Eminem catalog. So I only get out of bed if you’re adding a zero to my net worth or if it’s a little treat, like getting to go up onstage at the Grammys and stunt on Dee Barnes. You don’t have to make a sequel to Doggystyle. But Jimmy said if I did this I’d get my own Lego biopic.
Tim Cook, CEO of Apple: WIth all due respect to Andre and Calvin, this was my vision. I assembled the team. Who do you think came up with the title? I told the guys this would be the first truly universal rap album. No localized nonsense about Inglewood, swap meets, sticky green, and bad traffic. I told them to make an album whose appeal could span generations and demographics. Did you ever wonder what Epcot Center would sound like as a rap album. Look at your phone right now, Missionary is this generation’s Songs of Innocence. That’s not Dre or Snoop, it’s the motherfucking T.C. Baby.
DJ Battlecat: They called me in on the first day. I brought a Whispers record and my synthesizer and I put together a track that sounded like a modern Eastsidaz record. Dre listened to it between kipping pull up reps and said it wasn’t the direction he wanted to go in. Then he started singing the chorus from “Thank You” and threw his Lacroix at an intern who quickly stitched the track. RBX wrote Snoop’s verses after he picked up Dre’s dry cleaning. The invoice for the reimbursement is now 90 days late.
Fat Money: I’ve been Dre’s HGH plug since 2017. Me and Stalone got verses on “Gangsta Pose” as a reward for catching Stat Quo trying to sneak into the studio through the fire escape when I was making a sale during a session.
Snoop Dogg: “Pressure” was a joint we were sitting on for a long time. Dre luckily found the DAT in a crate of Truth Hurts cassingles. We originally made it for a Mitsubishi Outlander commercial I did with Anna Kendrick that never aired.
The D.O.C.: Listen, I’ve been doing this since the 80s. I’ve been around everybody. Dre and Snoop showed me the world. So I don’t get starstruck. But Sting? “Every Breath You Take” and “Message in a Bottle?” C’mon, man. I was at the studio when he pulled up in a peach colored Cybertruck. Then he smoked some of that Hindu Kush with Snoop and Method Man and started teaching everyone in the room the secrets of the tantra. Slim the Mobster had to coax him out of the studio’s crawl space to lay down his vocals.
Tim Cook: I needed Snoop to quit kvetching about not having a Grammy, so I prompted Apple Intelligence to package Snoop Dogg’s most identifiable and brand-safe characteristics into a song that will appeal to Grammy voters and people who only know Snoop from NBC’s The Voice – and boom, acoustic collab with Jelly Roll. Easy shit. Grammy by algorithm, which was actually a spitballed alternate name for the album. Just wait until February. You heard me, Sam Altman.
Jelly Roll: Kurupt kept asking me if I was from Boo-Yaa Tribe.
Martha Stewart: I came through and made everyone a smoked salmon and dill quiche. Then I freestyled for 18 minutes, and followed it up by showing some Eastside Long Beach Crips how to make napkin swans with their blue rags. It was a perfectly divine evening until Lil Half Dead tried to put his dick on my head.
Big Tray Dee: The Olympics were cool. Fun fact: Mike Tirico knows all the words to my verse on “G’d Up.”
Xzibit: Don’t talk to me about “ghost-producers.” Dre is singular as a producer because he can see things no one else can see. We don’t take anything away from Andy Warhol for having Gerard Malanga apply ink to canvases for him and we can’t take anything away from Dre for disappearing mid-production for five weeks and sending notes to the studio via his attorney. When you made “Deeez Nuuuts,” you can do what the fuck you want.
Dr. Dre: I told Xzibit I wanted him to do “Bitch Please Part 3” with Eminem. I made him come to the studio at 6AM and wait around all day until I FaceTimed him and said we had to scrap it because Em got a call to do a verse for P!nk. Then I asked him if he could pimp my ride. The look on his face made all of this worth it.
50 Cent: Alright, so I hear Scott Storch is going to be in the studio to play keys or whatever, right? So I tell Tony Yayo to go out and get me a Ziploc bag full of crushed up white sprinkles – only white ones. Then I go over to Scott and I say, “Yo Scott, call Game and tell him that Dre wants him for Missionary. Say Dre wants him to do Jewell’s verse from the end of The Chronic. The one where she says, ‘When I’m on the dick, I get real mean.’” And Scott laughs and says, “Come On Fif.” And then I slowly pull the Ziploc an inch out of my pocket. Yo, this motherfucker’s eyes doubled in size.
Eminem: There’s another version of “Gunz N Smoke” where I rapped in the accent from “Ass Like That.” I feel like people never really appreciated what I was trying to do with that.
Snoop Dogg: I knew we could do something bigger than we had ever done before, even bigger than my campaign with Patrick Mahomes for T-Mobile, where you can get the new iPhone 16 Pro for free and families save 20% every month.
Ari Emanuel, Co-Founder of William Morris Endeavor: I was there when Snoop Dogg signed on to do that commercial for erectile dysfunction meds. We brought that idea to all of our A-listers and everyone turned it down. I mean, who wants their name next to ED medicine, right? We were about to toss it when someone on the team suggested we try Snoop Dogg. So we had the meeting with Snoop and he didn’t even blink. He cut us off halfway through the pitch and signed on the spot. That night, I ended up locking myself in the bathroom and drinking a handle of vodka in my bathtub. I mean, we got the guy who made “Ain’t No Fun” to shill dick pills.
Kendrick Lamar: I gave these guys three days of my time. Three whole ass days. On the first day, Snoop made us all watch every episode of Doggy Fizzle Televizzle, which was better than you remember. On the second day, Dre was out of pocket because he had meetings with his cryogenics people. On the third day, I had to break up a fight between Mel-Man and Hittman who both wanted Dre’s ticket to the Golden Globes. And then like two hours before my flight, they had me record a verse to a track called “Rest in Piss Tim Dog” for the deluxe version. It’s going to be an Amazon exclusive.
Warren G: Pause the video for “The Next Episode” at 1:20. That’s an amazing ass. More asses should look like that.
Jimmy Iovine: I’ll be honest, the prospects for another Up In Smoke Tour are dicey. Snoop insists that the tour be “on the blockchain” and when I ask him to elaborate, he tells me to talk to Kokane. And Dre told me he’s only interested if I can find all the guys from Blackstreet so they can do “No Diggity,” though I think he might just be busting my balls. Meanwhile, I’m getting tired of avoiding Game’s phone calls.
Kurupt: Dre and Snoop played me the album after they finished it. I’m starting to think Tipper Gore was right.
Snoop Dogg: We beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past. For a moment, you’re 22 years old with vision that can change the world and the talent to execute it. The next you’re America’s stoned uncle. And sure the money is great and sex is fun and fame has its perks, but it’s really love. What you become addicted to is love, you start to see relevance and love as the same thing, and your vision slowly dims and your talent slowly fades and you are desperately trying to cling to both for as long as you can with the little time you have left. And that’s why it’s so important to grab a pair of my latest collaboration with Sketchers. The Gold Medal Snoops will help you believe the lie that you can in fact defy the relentless passage of time, and hold onto the world’s love forever.
maybe he will do a song at the inauguration...
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Jimmy Iovine: When I heard they were thinking about doing another one,
I got Dre on the phone immediately and pressed him on it.
I told Dre, “You and Snoop – You guys made your
A New Hope
but you never made your
-Rise of Skywalker.
You guys made your Ready to Die, but you never made your
Duets: The Final Chapter, your fans need- no,
they deserve this branded and highly streamable content adventure.”
A spoof on the making of 'Missionary' :D -
That's the sound I expected on the Snoop album
https://open.spotify.com/track/5tYkbv48iRcz0Of63DBnch
Detox Vibe
https://open.spotify.com/track/5zeE38iEQc20kxTaPTHslM
both ALbums on the Hook Up Spot
Yeah that shit is wack and indeed sounds like YouTube dr.dre type beats. The fact that Dawaum Parker made those is crazy and clearly shows the difference between the quality of music when he's his own (these ep's) and him under Dre supervision (Relapse, the Big Bang etc). No idea how anyone would prefer these beats to Missionary lol
Now that I Want You beat? That's closer to what Missionary needed. And maybe the beat from Frank Sinatra commercial too.
That's the sound I expected on the Snoop album
https://open.spotify.com/track/5tYkbv48iRcz0Of63DBnch
Detox Vibe
https://open.spotify.com/track/5zeE38iEQc20kxTaPTHslM
both ALbums on the Hook Up Spot
its fake isnt it?Uhhh that's usually what "spoof" means
Gave this album another spin today. This is definitely a failure. No memorable songs, no replay value, no singles. Oh well...
are u sure it’s not a massive success with the potential to have timeless hits?
that’s what dubcc told me
That was probably the excitement Lol. But hmmm this album is forgettable!!
That was probably the excitement Lol. But hmmm this album is forgettable!!
Gave this album another spin today. This is definitely a failure. No memorable songs, no replay value, no singles. Oh well...
If this album isn’t outstanding to you please make recommendations for me to check out of a better overall product that has been released in the last few years. I am a 90’s hip hop dude and this new Missionary album took me back to the 90’s in terms of quality, cohesiveness, replay value, and just overall vibe.
meanwhile hibernation shivers still selling hard copies daily 9 months post release without a fraction of the promotion 8)
haters (who didn’t grab a copy to support), stay mad
:umad:
Whether we now discuss which album is better sold Snoop or RBX? Dre has brought out his son , mixed by Dr.Dre as of today 7 people have liked him on you Tube, 7? Hip Hop is dead
If you cut the album in a playlist for 30 minutes (like back in the days with tapes)
1. Foreplay
2. Shangri-la
3. Hardknocks
4. Gorgeous
5. Last dance
6. Skyscrapers
7. Fire
8. Another part
9. Sticky situations
10. Now or never
11. Negotiator
a little equalizing and you have a 10/10 album.
It sounds like a 70s blaxploitation with these live Horns. Which is great.
Big difference with just blaze is that his shit is just samples which makes it stiff.
Best 30 minutes of music i have heard in 20 years or so.
What are your sales? How many hardcopies has RBX moved so far?
bout 5k
meanwhile hibernation shivers still selling hard copies daily 9 months post release without a fraction of the promotion 8)
haters (who didn’t grab a copy to support), stay mad
:umad:
Still think the same about the album.
Wack tracks outta da blue an Thank you are very short. 2:40 or so. So it is manageble. Still they should never put out of the blue as the starter/face of the album.
Album is short but if you add Some of the better instrumentals it is a good full album.
Downloaded this a while ago but it was removed from Apple Music Canada???
Those are decent numbers. At around 20.00 a pop, you're looking at 100,000. But then however much you have to take out for manufacturing and artwork, etc.., then giving RBX his cut of course and studio time, mixing time, shipping, probably not ending up with a whole lot of profit on the hardcopies. I can see why a lot of rappers don't do hardcopies.
this is not making any sense
studio time, mixing, marketing etc is money spent whether u press hard copies or not …. rbx guna get his cut regardless …manufacturing a cd with artwork etc is fairly cheap if u buy in bulk …. so leaving money on the table by not pressing hard copies is pretty dumb tbh.
this is not making any sense
studio time, mixing, marketing etc is money spent whether u press hard copies or not …. rbx guna get his cut regardless …manufacturing a cd with artwork etc is fairly cheap if u buy in bulk …. so leaving money on the table by not pressing hard copies is pretty dumb tbh.
Forgive me, because i don't know how it works, i'm genuinely curious. So if you press up 1,000 records/CDs, RBX doesn't get an additional cut for each physical copy you sell? He's already paid up regardless if you decide to press hard copies or not?
I'm still listening to the album regularly and really enjoy it.
I don't why though if they weren't going to release the more pop singles, for more worldwide appeal, they didn't just make a more "traditional" west coast album?
I'm still listening to the album regularly and really enjoy it.
I don't why though if they weren't going to release the more pop singles, for more worldwide appeal, they didn't just make a more "traditional" west coast album?
Looks like they did the album just to promote their new drink. They are not expecting album to make some good sales or to be sucesful. They just kept the fans interested for 2 or 3 years and it helped them to get money with their new drink brand. i hate music business.
And there’s not a single person I know that has bought that drink. I’d like to see the sales numbers for the drink
Looks like they did the album just to promote their new drink. They are not expecting album to make some good sales or to be sucesful. They just kept the fans interested for 2 or 3 years and it helped them to get money with their new drink brand. i hate music business.
I'm yet to see it in a shop. And what's the point? Small cans. Sell an actual bottle of gin and let me decide what I put in it!
I'd sooner buy an RBX themed drink called Hibernation Shivers that's so packed with booze it makes me shiver and want to hibernate haha.
it’s not that either because the drink ain’t doin numbers either
they’re simply outa touch wit what their core fanbase wants to hear
and that’s never a good thing
:fisherlol:
I'm yet to see it in a shop. And what's the point? Small cans. Sell an actual bottle of gin and let me decide what I put in it!
I've seen you say multiple times, "snoop's core fan base". What/who in your opinion is snoop's core fan base?
I'm assuming you think the people on here who started with Doggystyle and the Chronic back in the early 90s are snoop's core fan base.
I don't think that is the case in 2025. Yes, millions of people bought doggystyle, but that was over 30 years ago. Every single one of those persons is either 30 years older or they are dead. Many of those people don't even listen to rap music much, or at all anymore. I'm that generation. I literally grew up as a young teen when snoop came out. I don't really know anyone my age who is really listening to snoop dogg anymore.
I think you are mistaken about who snoop's core fan base is these days. Hell, I don't even know if snoop has a core fan base...he is just split up with so many groups of different people that like him for different reasons.
yea .. snoops core fanbase probably doesn’t exist in fresno, you might be right
but in LA, it’s typically cats who like that signature west coast music …. which yes, we are still out there, and believe it or not, there are people still alive who didn’t just listen to rap as a rebellious phase in
their life and who genuinely appreciate hip-hop as a legitimate art form
thanks for your input tho
:cac:
Funny thing is...I don't live in fresno...
LA it's typically cats who like that signature west coast music? LA has more transplants than most other places in the USA. You act like LA is full of people who were born and raised there and are ride or die west coast.
So tell me...describe to me...who is snoop dogg's core fan base?
From your post it sounds like you are saying people living in LA are his core fan base...otherwise, I'm not sure why you wrote that. Is that correct, are you saying that is snoop's core fan base?
where are u from? u just visiting fresno for the time being??
what i’m saying is not rocket science homie …. LA isn’t all snoop fans.. but the hip-hop heads out here who genuinely love hip-hop and didn’t jus listen to it as teens in order to rebel against their parents are his core fanbase…. we grew up on that hard hitting signature west coast music and that’s what we love… to act like these people don’t exist and that everyone just listened to rap as a phase because that’s what u know is pretty dense brother.
Why do you keep bringing up fresno? I don't live in fresno, I'm not visiting fresno.
YOU didn't grow up on that hard hitting signature west coast music. How old are you? How old were you in 1993? If you were 3 years old in 1993, that is not what I would calling growin up on something. Most everyone has roughly zero memories of when they were 3 years old.
I on the other hand did grow up with Snoop Dogg and Death row records. I was actually old enough to go into a record store without my mommy and buy a cd or a tape. Were you?
So I haven't bought a snoop album since probably Paid the Cost. Doggystyle is my favorite album ever. Is snoop dogg looking for people who like his music or is snoop dogg looking to sell records and make money?
I'm pretty sure snoop dogg is looking to make money. Most people who bought Doggystyle back in the 90s are not buying music these days. At the most they are paying for a streaming service. I'm very certain that Snoop dogg considers his core fan base as the people who pay for his product. Like I said before, very few people who actually grew up on Doggystyle are paying for albums these days. If you can't understand this, then you are the one who is dense.
Final thoughts:
Missionary - A collection of really clean sounding instrumentals and everyone going through the motions. For me, Last Dance with Mary Jane is the best song on the album and it is the only one that has any kind of emotion behind it. I could almost believe that Snoop was being sincere with what he was saying.
Snoop - Sounded great, but it just seemed like he was reading lyrics off a sheet. Some of his lyrics sounded like they could've been for Dre(you know the lyrics where he is bragging about what he's done or who he is). It was like he was a guest on every single song. Just the other day, i listened to Buck Em from No Limit Top Dogg and that simple song that doesnt hit the three minute mark but is more complete sounding than anything on Missionary.
Dre - The music sounded clean, almost too clean, like that was his overall focus. Albums like Chronic, Doggystyle, 2001, and even Relapse put you in a time and place. Chronic was like that afternoon ride through the hood before the party. Doggystyle was set at night during a house party. 2001 was leaving that house party early and just cruising through the streets. Relapse was sitting in a dark twisted room listening to a psychopath have a conversation with himself. He has produced three full albums since then that we know of and its just a collection of instrumentals for each one. I'm not sure what happened to Dre after Relapse or even going back to his last big hit which was the Outta Control Remix, 20 years ago. Maybe it was the money from Beats, or just doesnt care anymore? Trying to reinvent the wheel when he never had to? The beat change ups really kill the vibe of each song and has been like that since Compton. I was personally ok with building on the instrumentals with each verse in past songs he's produced, but completely changing beats in the middle of the song is just too much. I'm sure he has the capability to release some of the greatest work we've ever heard, but it seems like he is past that point now in his career.
Overall - I was expecting something better than Compton and I think Snoop was seriously down to do this when it was announced. But as time drug on, Dre ended up having the last say in everything and it just took the life out of it. It just seems like creating this album ended up not being enjoyable for Snoop. As a fan of their work from the beginning, its just frustrating this is what we get. I was a Snoop fan before Dre, then became a Dre fan over everyone else. But, I cant wrap my head around the decision making of this album and that is on the producer. I let myself believe that we would get either a grown up version of Doggystyle or even a "lite" version of Detox with this release.
Final thoughts:
Missionary - A collection of really clean sounding instrumentals and everyone going through the motions. For me, Last Dance with Mary Jane is the best song on the album and it is the only one that has any kind of emotion behind it. I could almost believe that Snoop was being sincere with what he was saying.
Snoop - Sounded great, but it just seemed like he was reading lyrics off a sheet. Some of his lyrics sounded like they could've been for Dre(you know the lyrics where he is bragging about what he's done or who he is). It was like he was a guest on every single song. Just the other day, i listened to Buck Em from No Limit Top Dogg and that simple song that doesnt hit the three minute mark but is more complete sounding than anything on Missionary.
Dre - The music sounded clean, almost too clean, like that was his overall focus. Albums like Chronic, Doggystyle, 2001, and even Relapse put you in a time and place. Chronic was like that afternoon ride through the hood before the party. Doggystyle was set at night during a house party. 2001 was leaving that house party early and just cruising through the streets. Relapse was sitting in a dark twisted room listening to a psychopath have a conversation with himself. He has produced three full albums since then that we know of and its just a collection of instrumentals for each one. I'm not sure what happened to Dre after Relapse or even going back to his last big hit which was the Outta Control Remix, 20 years ago. Maybe it was the money from Beats, or just doesnt care anymore? Trying to reinvent the wheel when he never had to? The beat change ups really kill the vibe of each song and has been like that since Compton. I was personally ok with building on the instrumentals with each verse in past songs he's produced, but completely changing beats in the middle of the song is just too much. I'm sure he has the capability to release some of the greatest work we've ever heard, but it seems like he is past that point now in his career.
Overall - I was expecting something better than Compton and I think Snoop was seriously down to do this when it was announced. But as time drug on, Dre ended up having the last say in everything and it just took the life out of it. It just seems like creating this album ended up not being enjoyable for Snoop. As a fan of their work from the beginning, its just frustrating this is what we get. I was a Snoop fan before Dre, then became a Dre fan over everyone else. But, I cant wrap my head around the decision making of this album and that is on the producer. I let myself believe that we would get either a grown up version of Doggystyle or even a "lite" version of Detox with this release.
If you cut the album in a playlist for 30 minutes (like back in the days with tapes)
1. Foreplay
2. Shangri-la
3. Hardknocks
4. Gorgeous
5. Last dance
6. Skyscrapers
7. Fire
8. Another part
9. Sticky situations
10. Now or never
11. Negotiator
a little equalizing and you have a 10/10 album.
It sounds like a 70s blaxploitation with these live Horns. Which is great.
Big difference with just blaze is that his shit is just samples which makes it stiff.
Best 30 minutes of music i have heard in 20 years or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luq4DMujeRE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzuV18S9MsI
Necro i respect much - head split is an insane banger. But he does not notice the quality and style of this album.
He mentions pop as a bad thing.
But pop can be ‘banging’ too - if it contains quality funk - like some of Michael Jackson, Prince, George Michael, Sting, Phil Collins songs.
This album is one of a kind in music. Because it bridges rap to pop to blaxploitation in a new classy way. Still the streams sound weird - too bright - and Jimmy should not have forced outta da blue and thank you to be on it, because those are misfits.
On the other hand Snoop’s Trump support kind of fucks up the album and his discography right now. Like is he really stupid or what?
Only guys who sit down to pee would bring politics into a rap album discussion.
Altogether I don't think the album ties together very well at all. Despite Dre's production and mixing mastery, the styles on the this album are all over the place, but it just doesn't sound like a cohesive whole. And despite the mish-mash of styles, I don't think that's the reason for the lack of cohesion on the album, as Dre's Compton is very eclectic, but ultimately ties together well. Why is that? I have no idea.
We can now say that the real follow to Doggystyle is Tha Last Meal
This is a fair and well argued criticism.
I do think that Dre had too much control over the direction of this project and as i've said before has overthought things.
I also think that Snoop's biggest USP is his charisma and it felt that he was restrained. We saw parts of it on Pressure and Thank You where he felt his natural self.
I do think Dre needs to relax and just vibe in the studio, have fun and go with the flow. At the moment, everything seems a bit too calculated and mechanical.
Technically the mixing/engineering though, it's on another level. Other albums, the production sounds so flat.
I personally love the album and is still in heavy rotation
Unfortunately this album didn't have the replay value of "Compton" to me. It's better than the "The Contract EP", though. But for a Dre/Snoop Reunion album, I excepted more to be honest. It's a solid album, well executed, but nothing groundbreaking. 7/10 at max.
agree. they didn't need to reinvent the wheel for this but the produciton is just too left-field for Snoop in a bad way. i'm not saying it can't be fresh and something brand new but did anyone ever stop and ask if this was the sound most fitting for Snoop?
Outta Da Blue is one of the worst tracks Dre has attached his name to in his whole career.
Didn't see this posted anywhere but ..hmmm!
Yeah, been teasing something for 13th for a couple of days now.
Focus, Denaun Potter reposting it too.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJdMaBaODGO/?igsh=aWxvcGlkOGg5bTRz
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJfO5cLTYY2/?igsh=YTIyYzZiOXNqNGty
very low replay value unfortunately. i don't blame Snoop or Dre per se it's more Dre's stable of producers he's using these days.
i did like Thank You and the one with Jelly Roll but most of it is forgettable - not the sort of production Snoop sounds best on.
the Truice EP is honestly a better Aftermath project and the track with Xzibit sounds nice too.
Which track with Xzibit?Xzibit albums drops in a few days and has a Dr. Dre feature
Didn't see this posted anywhere but ..hmmm!Wonder what this could be
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJfO5cLTYY2/?igsh=YTIyYzZiOXNqNGty
Wonder what this could be
Sounds like a classic Dre piano was gonna hit lol. Maybe a Missionary leftover ?..
Didn't see this posted anywhere but ..hmmm!
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJfO5cLTYY2/?igsh=YTIyYzZiOXNqNGty
not sure if it's connected but snoop has been previewin a biopic to all the homies lately
Snoop hasn’t made any good music since the last meal, he is done
Whatever it is, definitely some new music dropping tomorrow from Snoop.
Looking forward to that.
A different sneak peak
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJjxfPYRNxG/?igsh=MW9sanN1ZmcyY2Q0NA==
I don't know what they are up to, but those snippets are shitting on Missionary for sure
This one produced by battlecat (official info!)
What happened to groovy, catchy battlecat beats (((
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJj9GomxajC/?igsh=MX
RzcmY2NGR0ZGI5ZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJj-KQBxSxR/?igsh=MTJtMGxrOWw1enZwNw==
Right here!
I know I'm a minority here, but Missionary is better than when I last listened to it. It's been upgraded from weed plate for me.
fore play, shangri-la, pressure, fire, gunz n smoke - meh
the rest are good for me
it had some dope joints
and perhaps well appreciate it more as time goes on
but the initial anticipation completely ruined it for me and it was very hard for me to get past that
Snoop is really coming with something too West Coast!!! All are bangers!
I know I'm a minority here, but Missionary is better than when I last listened to it. It's been upgraded from weed plate for me.
fore play, shangri-la, pressure, fire, gunz n smoke - meh
the rest are good for me
forgive me people. that new snoop album sucks so bad!
You should stop listening to music man it brings you no joy
You should stop listening to music man it brings you no joy
I'm still curious why and how sam sneed was involved in project
He did co production on a song, maybe it was a Detox left ovsrOn 3 songs*, all of it was new material
i mean anybody head anything on interviews about how he involved with the project? he came to studio and they made new beats or dr. dre pulled some old beats which is co produced by sam sneed and re produced them?
And the album flows plus Snoop's rhymes better than he has in decades
i mean anybody head anything on interviews about how he involved with the project? he came to studio and they made new beats or dr. dre pulled some old beats which is co produced by sam sneed and re produced them?
I saw Focus comment on an Insta post the other day saying Sam produced those tracks and then Dre produced over and added bits etc
So presumably they're from back when Sam was with Dre back in like 2015 or whenever it was for Detox and Dre added to them
I asked Bud'da if he knows sam sneed productions are old beats from 90s or new. He said that sam sneed was keep in touch with dre in past few years and he keep sending beats to dre. 3 of em made it to missionary.
Which ones?
Which ones?